Here is a series of three posts to alt.clearing.avatar. The person named Jim/Wayne has been conducting a frenetic campaign to shut down discussion boards that expose Harry Palmer, the Scientology squirrel who now heads the Avatar mini cult. "Jim" even started a bogus baord of his own (the Freetar 51 link). I have been told by prefessional therapists that he sounds manic depressive. What do you think? --Eldon Braun -------------------------------- MY ORIGINAL POST UNDER THE HEADING: "Warning re: Star's Edge" There appears to be a considerable amount of turmoil within the Star's Edge Network at present.   My warning still holds: If you plan to take the Avatar Course, the Avatar Masters or Pro Course, or Wizards 2001 in January, for your own financial protection, do the following:   1. Demand to see any and all contracts or agreements that you will be asked to sign BEFORE giving anyone any money. This is just good business practice. They are known for getting you to travel someplace and commit to a course, and then sticking some questionable contract in front of you to sign-- after the fact, and without the benefit of legal counsel. This is documented.   2. Ask specifically what are the stipulations and agreements about refunds and multi-level kickback schemes regarding the "Conditional" and "Provisional" Master teaching licenses. Are you required to pay half the course fees to a supervisor for students you teach? How does the commission structure benefit the Master who taught you the course? Why the price fixing? Is that legal? Ask questions. See an attorney.   3. If you are asked to pay in advance for a course at Star's Edge, particularly Wizards, I advise you to wait until you are sure the course will be delivered. Harry Palmer has been known to collect money for services in advance and then skip town with the money. This is documented.   Just playing Ralph Nader here.   Best, Eldon EldonB123@aol.com ------------------------------ ELDON SAYS: > Just playing Ralph Nader here.
  JIM SAYS: Eldon the Koos is a goner? Now it's Eldon the Ralph Nader. Actually this bothers me more. You scare me when you're talking sense.   I like your idea here: scare 'em all off. Last I heard, you couldn't get a seat there till somebody else cancelled, but that I should keep calling. You're my only hope, obi wan. No wonder there's a "disturbance in the field". Darth Vader changed masks.   Two hundred and fifty new Avatars this week. Eighty nine hate posts from Eldon. Get a grip. Get the real skinny:  http://www.geocities.com/freetar51 -------------------   In article <8r3q8i$5h6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jim <gtoes@my-deja.com> wrote: > ELDON SAYS:
> > Just playing Ralph Nader here.
> JIM SAYS:
> Eldon the Koos is a goner? Now it's Eldon the Ralph Nader. Actually this
> bothers me more. You scare me when you're talking sense.
Jom/Wayne/whomever, I sympathize with your fixation on protecting the Star's Edge "religious movement" at all costs. I realize that you think this cult is something special and therefore above the law. Otherwise, you wouldn't be spending so much energy on these desperate measures to stifle open discussion and spread disinformation. I can understand that Avatar, and possibly Scientology before that, remporarily brought you the sense of peace and clarity you were seeking. Maybe that lasted for awhile until "it" came back. And maybe your experiences helped eliminate some of "it." It's also obvious that you are pretty intelligent. However, just now you should consider that you are being set up as the fall guy. Sure, Harry will let you carry on and assist you from "behind the scenes." But then when the heat comes down, he will say he had nothing to do with it. Just like L. Ron Hubbard. I serioiusly doubt that there were 250 Avatar graduates last week. But even if there were that many, I think there would have been more like 400 if the course were delivered in an ethical manner, at fair prices, without all the multilevel hocus-pocus and deceit inherent in the current system. So to my mind, Harry's purported proprietary "ownership" of the mental processes he adapted from other sources prevents people from gaining benefits in an open marketplace. The last post I made is not a hate post. I didn't tell people not to take courses from Star's Edge. It is just standard consumerist cautions, based on prior experience and evidence. Why shouldn't people know in advance exactly what agreements they're expected to make? Why should people make advance payments to someone with a known history of extortion? Can you answer those questions rationally? And I don't mean with an excuse that Harry has a special dispensation from the Estro Companions because he's going to save the planet. Despite your best efforts, most of the evidence is still right there, you know. At this URL: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Alps/4173/links.html And if someone needs to see the Elmira articles, I can provide a copy as corroborative evidence. Now please, Jim/Wayne and your other identities--don't take my word for it. Talk to someone you trust about this situation. Show them (all) the documentation and get some feedback. Sure, I have gotten mad at you, but "hate" is not a word that applies to my feelings about your condition. And now a word to the many sane and rational Avatar Masters who are following this little saga: The URL for that Freetar 51 site is registered to Wayne McMahon at an address on 17th Stret in San Diego. The phone number listed on the registration is for J. Reynolds in Chula Vista, CA, which is near San Diego. I have that phone number if you need it. In my opinion, this person needs help. Please make your best efforts to see that help is made available. Sincerely, Eldon EldonB123@aol.com ---

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