Did Scientology Lie & Have a Critic's Motorcycle Towed?

Did Scientology Lie & Have a Critic's Motorcycle Towed? Scientology

Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:33:26 -0800
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Today two critics came to LA to picket:

Jeff Jacobson and Barbz. (That alone will thrill OSA, as there were only 2 people picketing. What they miss is that people don't need to picket that much anymore, as the facts and info are available to ALL on the Internet, thus the need isn't as strong~~however it's still an excellent activity for many reasons).

I'm sure they'll have a full report, but I just talked with barb...

and here's what's gone down so far:

They successfully picketed, and I believe photos will follow.

As usual, they ate at the Sizzler the critics usually eat at when picketing here.

Tonight, Barb's motorcycle was towed, and she was told the head of Sizzler requested that it be towed.

What ~actually~ happened? Well, what do you all think?

Barb called the manager of the Sizzler, who told her he not only had nothing to do with this, he didn't do it, nor did he know anything about it.

Geeeeeeeee.....let me think: (Magoo tilts her head to the right, then the left......hmmmmmmmmm) who might do such a thing>?

Any ideas?

OSA? You wouldn't be getting *This* desperate, are you?

Do you realize ~that~ is against the law? Oh, I know your routine:

You'll make sure whomever called had a phony name, fake phone number, and they used a pre-paid calling card so it cannot be traced.

So you feel you won a battle? No question, that caused some hassles, and I'm sure we'll hear about it as soon as Barb gets home. She told me one of your ops was following them, too. Tisk tisk, it's adding up already.

However, this one is going to sting, no question, as most of your nasty deeds end up hurting YOU way more than the people you try to harm.

Someone kindly already offered to donate $100 to barb, to help pay for the $250 she had to fork out. If anyone else is in the mood, drop her a line.

I'm sure she'd more than welcome it.

Don't let Scientology scare you: They like to act like terrorists, while they're shivering inside their orgs, hiding behind the curtain of "religion", Really, they're a bunch of cowards who have long since forgotten why they got into Scientology.

I await the full write up soon.

My best,

-- Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~ In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!

For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church' Free at LAST!

http://www.xenu.net, www.xenutv.com http://www.torymagoo.org, www.altreligionscientology.net http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm

"Those that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin magoo44@charter.net Burbank, CA (818) 841-3632

From: "Magoo" <magoo44@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Did Scientology Lie & Have a Critic's Motorcycle Towed?

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:00:50 -0800
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"barb" <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:43b360e0$1@news2.lightlink.com...

> I got it back...

Excellent~! I posted this on Operation Clambake also, as many there do not come here. Here's a response I thought you should read:

Posted: 29 Dec 2005 05:34 Post subject:

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Magoo, Who towed the bike?

was it the city or a private firm.

If it was the city then there would have to be a ticket.

If it was a private firm, for the sizzler, then just have Barb speak with the manager and get the charges removed. If they did not authorize the tow then it is the tow company's fault. Someone had to sign for the tow when the driver removed the vehicle. If he/she was not an authorized agent of the Sizziler then the tow was illegal and thus any fees as such are invalid and thus forfit.

I do suggest that Barb pursue this matter. In the fullest to the extent of making out a police report for a stolen vehicle.

Good luck _________________ Lt. Rich A. 1

The Tech is the Carrot, The Admin is the Cart, Ethics is the whip, Guess who the Horses are.

Tory/Magoo~

>
> --
> --barb
> Chaplain,ARSCC
> xenubarb@netscape.net
>
> "Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
> form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

> This assistance might involve holding you against your
> will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
> friends and family, and denying you access to
> appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
> for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
> the release form absolves your caretakers of all
> responsibility for your suffering and death.

>
> Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

>
> --Dr. Dave Touretzky
> Peter Alexander
>

From: "Android Cat" <androidcat98@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Did Scientology Lie & Have a Critic's Motorcycle Towed?

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:53:29 -0500
Organization: Sandor Arbitration Intelligence at the Zoo
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barb wrote:

> Magoo wrote:

>> If it was a private firm, for the sizzler, then just have Barb
>> speak with the manager and get the charges removed. If they did not
>> authorize the tow then it is the tow company's fault. Someone had to
>> sign for the tow when the driver removed the vehicle. If he/she was
>> not an authorized agent of the Sizziler then the tow was illegal and
>> thus any fees as such are invalid and thus forfit.

>>
>> I do suggest that Barb pursue this matter. In the fullest to
>> the extent of making out a police report for a stolen vehicle.

>>
>> Good luck
>> _________________
>> Lt. Rich A. 1
>>
> I did, in fact, call LAPD again after we knew the score. The man who
> answered the phone said that, since it happened on private property,
> it was a civil case. He said he was very sorry he couldn't help me.

Strange since the LAPD says they are working to crack down on bandit towing companies, where bandits tow from private property claiming to have the lot manager's permission. I guess fancy sting operations are more media-juicy.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1351347 "California has some of the toughest towing regulations in the country. A parking lot owner must be present to authorize a tow and cars can only be towed from a parking lot after one hour. Tow truck drivers must release a car if the owner comes back while his or her car is still in the lot. But sometimes people pretend to be managers and often, tow truck drivers ignore the law and drive off with someone's car even after he or she has returned to the scene."

Video of the TV show:

http://www.tian.cc/2005/11/tow-truck-scams.html

Probably the towing company wasn't bandit in this case and the person posing as the manager of the lot to them was a member of a certain brainless UFO cult... Pretty much zero chance that the tow truck driver would actually cooperate and check a list of likely photos for the "lot manager", I'd guess.

-- Ron of that ilk.

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:43:12 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Organization: ARSCC Intel Div
Subject: My KR
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I will write up my adventures in LA tomorrow...just woke up from a nap, but I'm still exhausted, so I'll just snipe at BS a bit tonight and hit the hay.

I am touched and kind of all warm and fuzzy at the responses the critic community (such as it is, herd of cats, etc) have sent me.

Y'all make life worth living! You're a wonderful, noble group of wogs!

-- --barb Chaplain,ARSCC xenubarb@netscape.net

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

This assistance might involve holding you against your will for an indefinite period, isolating you from friends and family, and denying you access to appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not, the release form absolves your caretakers of all responsibility for your suffering and death.

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

--Dr. Dave Touretzky Peter Alexander

From: "cultxpt" <cultxpt@ev1.net>
Subject: Jeff's LA Picket KR
Date: 28 Dec 2005 21:21:03 -0800
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My Trip to Los Angeles, 12/26-27/05

Monday I drove to Perris California with a stop in Hemet to see Ida and drive by Golden Era Studios. The studios now have so many trees and bushes growing along the highway that it's hard to see much, but I saw a few people working on the apartments on the south side. They're still not done by any stretch though.

In the morning I drove by a property outside Perris that is supposed to be a Scientology-related school, but it just looked like a house on a way-off road. In Riverside I looked up a few things at the county recorder's. I noticed somewhere in the records that Building Management Services owns or has the address 2618 Hyperion Road in Los Angeles. I drove into LA and got to the Sizzler on Hollywood Blvd. about 12:45. I had told Barb I'd try to meet her at 12:30 but wasn't sure when I'd get there. Barb wasn't there so I ate and was just leavng when I saw her driving up on her motorcycle. She said she'd been stuck in traffic. So I watched her eat and wind down from the trip.

To make parking easier, Barb asked the Sizzler manager if she could park her bike in back out of the way and come back in a couple of hours. He said fine. So we went to the Hubbard Life Exhibit on Hollywood Blvd.

First we drove by the Hyperion address. It's a small business building that seems to be divided by 3 businesses, the middle one (2618) being Allstate Insurance.

Xenu and I parked and picketed in front of the Life Exhibit from about 3-4:30pm. There seemed to be fewer pedestrians than normal, but I handed out about 2 dozen flyers perhaps, and Xenu handed out some too. The Scientologists called the cops again, so the female cop dutifully told us the rules of picketing and left. Several passersby videotaped and photographed Xenu.

As we were picketing, several Scientologists were going in and out of the building all dressed up, and other staff were carrying more formal clothes, no doubt for the New Year's event that night at the Shrine Auditorium. One younger woman in a beautiful gown carried an office box in and out with a label that said "CST Project." She walked about a half block down Hollywood Blvd and was apparently waiting there to be picked up.

At least 7 large buses came and parked right in the street beside the Life Exhibit, and we saw a few staff getting on before we drove away. I was wondering, why would so many Scientologists be at the Life Exhibit building before the New Year's event? Unless these were all staff? I don't know.

After we left the picket we decided to check out the Big Blue building on the way back to Sizzler to get Barb's bike, then go to the Shrine Auditorium to picket the event there (scheduled to start at 6:30pm). As we drove around the Big Blue on LRH Way, a white van pulled up along side us at the light and Ed Richardson yelled at us "I have a message for you!" The light changed and I drove off. Richardson followed us. In fact he followed us for several miles, through back streets and everything. When he got behind us at a red light he'd come up to my window with his cell phone out and say "I have a message for you!" I'd say "happy birthday to you too!" and drive off. But when we pulled into the Sizzler parking lot, apparently the important message wasn't so important anymore because Richardson just drove on by and we never saw him again.

At the Sizzler we discovered that Barb's motorcycle was gone. I at first assumed it was stolen. But we called the police and it had been towed "at the request of the Sizzler." So we talked to the Sizzler manager again. He said he never authorized that the motorcycle be towed. So... what happened? Apparently somebody posed as the manager and got the towing company to tow the bike. Who would do that?

While we were calling around with my cell phone in the car to figure out where the bike was, a guy came up to my window and said "are you through today?" I assumed this was a Scientology PI so I said "no." He then invited Barb and I to dinner, but we declined. We were kind of busy.

So finally we got the address and instructions to get the bike back.

We went to the yard and talked to the guy who towed the bike. He said that he went to the Sizzler after a call from there. A worker was outside and said she'd take the paperwork in for the manager to sign.

So the towing guy only dealt with an "employee" of Sizzler who was outside and went in briefly.

After paying the fee and asking directions, we headed off for the Shrine Auditorium, with Barb following me on her bike.

I went a few miles past the Shrine turnoff by mistake, so we stopped and got directions (and solicits from a few homeless people). By the time we got to the Shrine it was about 7pm. There was quite a bit of traffic there of Scientologists still driving in (remember the 6:30pm starting time?). But we decided it would not be wise to park our cars near the Shrine where we could not see them, especially because both have "xenu.net" bumper stickers. So we drove past and parked behind the Burger King to decide what to do. I saw a silver SUV park nearby that I was sure was a PI, though I'm not sure how I knew that (perhaps they were following us from our travels near the Shrine). Suddenly a smaller man in a suit approached Barb by her bike. I took his photo thinking it might be a Scientologist. He was actually a nice Italian guy, who was just asking directions and objected to having his picture taken. I showed him that I erased it and we had a nice conversation about the PIs following Barb and me. He seemed gung ho to go check out the PI with me, so we started walking toward the SUV. Suddenly the SUV slammed into reverse and shot back into the Denny's part of the parking lot. He even squealed his tires. So, with my camera out, we tried to approach the SUV, but he shot out of the parking lot and I didn't get a picture.

A while later I walked to the street corner to see which streets we were on so we could see how to get to the freeway. As I was walking over there a guy walked up to me and said "Hi, Jeff. Remember me?" He looked kind of like the actor William Hurt but I said no. I looked at the street signs and he asked why I was there. I said I'm fighting a cult that kills people, bye, and walked back to my car.

Barb decided to try to stay at a friend's for the night, and I decided to head home. So I followed her out with the idea that she would go one way and I'd go another, and the PI could only choose one of us. And indeed, an SUV (or maybe 2) followed us out. But then Barb got confused about directions so we did a u-turn, which slowed the tail. By the time the PI was back up to us, Barb was quite a ways down the road. I don't think she was followed. I was. So I stayed on back streets. I saw a cop car parked at a gas station, so I pulled in there and talked to the cops about stalking laws and such, and tried to point out the SUV that was following me as he u-turned. We talked for about 5 minutes or so, and when I left I don't think I was followed from then on. I drove to an undisclosed location and spent the night, and had a flat tire in the morning. I then drove home.

This is true.

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:22:46 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Organization: ARSCC Intel Div
Subject: Picket Report; Los Angeles 12-05
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I haven't ridden up to Los Angeles since I moved back to San Diego. I've gone through the city on my way elsewhere, but I usually take the train into the City of Angels. I don't like the limited mobility factor;

I always have to leave before the evening events to catch the last train home. So, Tuesday morning found me checking the oil and tire pressure, pumping it up, and hitting the freeway North on I-5. For some reason, Los Angeles hasn't found it worth the effort to expand the freeway into the city; it dwindles down to three lanes north of Anaheim, home of Disneyland and some baseball team. There is a gorgeous building sheathed in green glass just north of Mickey's fantasy, it's almost worth the ride to see it in the morning sun!

When I reached the old Firestone building, with its strange, winged gods and new video displays, traffic came to a halt, and by golly, stayed that way all the way into the city. What could have been a two hour ride stretched into a three hour white knuckle extravaganza.

I wouldn't mind the traffic. I wouldn't mind the three lane freeway. I do mind that the goddam lanes are so freaking narrow, you take your life in your hands splitting traffic!

When I pulled into the Sizzler parking lot, I met Jeff, who was actually just leaving! He waited while I wolfed down a steak and a glass of chablis; sated, I was ready to assume the character of the beloved Galactic Overlord.

I thought it would be more convenient to just take one vehicle. Hah! I asked the manager of the Sizzler if I could leave my bike parked in his parking lot for a few hours, and he said it was okay, if I put it out of the way of customer traffic. I stuck it in a half-slot near the dumpsters in an out of the way place, got my stuff out of the panniers, and Jeff and I headed over to the LRH Life Museum. The Xenu costume really is a magnificent piece of work! Dr. Dave sent me a new mask to replace the old one, which had literally rotted to bits. Nothing left but a pair of purple eyes. The foam inside the shoulder piece is falling apart, unfortunately. It left crumbly bits of orange foam all over the interior of Jeff's car. We found a parking place down the street, I donned the costume and shuffled down to Hollywood Blvd.

The costume robes are made like an elegant evening gown, you have to take baby steps; no striding while Xenu!

It might be just another day in Hollyweird, seeing an alien Overlord on the boulevard, Xenu got lots of attention from passersby. Xenu was handing out 'Ron the War Zero' fliers to counter the confabulations offered within the doors of the Life Museum. He received many accolades from his human subjects driving by, honks, waves, and cell phone pictures were constant. Many tourist hominids on foot took Xenu's picture as well as a flier. Xenu's sign had a picture of Stan from South Park, dressed as the return of Hubbard with the wreath and toga, and the quote, "SCIENTOLOGY IS A BIG, FAT, GLOBAL SCAM!"

And the Sea Ogres in their pale blue shirts and black ties scuttled to and fro in a constant stream, hustling to Do Important Things. I don't think the SO building across the street has been sold as someone reported a while back, because it was bustling with activity.

I saw a couple of guys with epaulettes on their shoulders, for the rest of it, the poor, dedicated culties were wearing pale blue shirts, black tie, dark slacks and shoes. After a couple of hours, Xenu's eyes started to fog over and it was getting pretty damp inside the mask.

People started arriving with garment bags, or already dressed in formal wear, ready for the New Year's event.

When the busses began to arrive, we decided to call it quits. Elronically, one cultie ordered Xenu to "get a life." Xenu has had many, many lives. He was not insulted.

There was one Scientologist who remained on the corner during our picket, watching us with a cell phone screwed into his ear. Predictably, LAPD was called. The female officer who arrived was, surprisingly, shorter than me.

There aren't many people around who are. She was polite and professional, something that impresses me about the Hollywood officers. I don't know where LAPD keeps the jackasses you read about in the news, Compton maybe. She gave us the usual rundown, don't block egress, ect. ect.

and mentioned something about taking photographs, which is legal on public property in California. I guess the clams must have complained. Ironic, since their properties bristle with cameras trained on the sidewalks! We assured her that we had done this before and had no intention of breaking the law. She talked with our watchclam for a while and left, much to his disappointment, I am sure.

As we walked back to the car, we were warned off from picketing an empty bus by its driver. "Don't you be picketing my bus!" he said. Jeff, Ghandi tech personified, explained that we were walking back to his car. The guy seemed to want to continue warning us, so we kept going.

By now, it was around 5:00 pm, and I was glad to divest myself of Xenu's robes and rubber head. We cruised over to have a look at Big Blue, at which point a silver SUV pulled up next to us. I could see Edwin Richardson at the wheel. He wanted to tell us something real bad!

"I've got something to tell you," he called, indicating that we should roll down the window.

"Oh, fuck, it's fucking Richardson!" I snorted. Jeff said to him, "that's nice," and drove on. The son of a bitch continued to follow us. At one point, he actually got out of his van at a light and came pecking on Jeff's window. "I've been watching you," he said. "That's nice," said Jeff, and then the light changed and we sped off, leaving Richardson standing in traffic.

I bet his Big News was that he'd had my bike towed. He followed us all the way back to the Sizzler parking lot, and then split.

My bike sure the heck wasn't in the parking lot when we got back. I asked the manager if anyone had moved it.

He said no, and seemed very unhappy that it had gone missing from his parking lot. I assured him that I didn't think it his fault, and thanked him for graciously allowing me to park it there. While I was calling LAPD, a second silver SUV pulled into the parking lot, and a pair of yahoos apparently invited us out to dinner.

One of them sidled too close to me while I was on the line, and I snarled at him to get back. I finished my phone call from inside the car, and the officer told me the bike had been impounded. The notice on the wall around the parking lot had the tow lot's information, so I called them next. All I needed to get Hootie out of hock was a drivers license and $220.00 in cash money.

I went in to the Sizzler and spoke to the manager. He was shocked that my bike had been towed, and wondered why the tow truck driver hadn't come in and informed him about it.

Well, it was because some cult asshole had posed as the manager in the parking lot, and signed the papers!

We got directions to the tow yard, and found an ATM machine, which spat out the $220, much to my surprise.

There used to be a limit "because of drug dealers."

I guess that stupid law was changed.

At the tow yard, out in the middle of godnose where, I treated the guy behind the counter nicely. It wasn't his fault. Who would expect some asshole PI to impersonate a restaurant manager? I told him what the deal was, how we had come to LA to picket Scientology, and he said, "Oh, those assholes!" He told me that Diamond Towing used to have a contract with them, and they would have dozens of cars towed away from their property, probably belonging to staff. Mobile slaves aren't a Good Thing, and the cult took their wheels. He also said that, while on tow runs, he would see members indulging in dangerous activities, such as washing windows way high up without any safety gear. He didn't seem terribly fond of the Scientologists, but he didn't give me my $220 back, either. He also refused to trade me a black Mercedes for my Beemer, but the tow truck driver said he'd prefer to have the bike.

All the while, I was in constant contact with Tory and Susan, but I was a little short with them, I'm afraid, until I got the bike back. I needed to think Tomorrow, I am going to call the tow truck company to see if they have email. I want to send them a picture of Edloser Richardson and see if he's the guy who posed as the manager. The driver said only that he had not been a heavy set Latino, which the manager is.

We then proceeded to the Shrine Auditorium. Alas, Jeff's plan to park on the street outside was foiled because of the time, it was after 6:30 by the time we arrived, so we pulled into the parking lot of a strip mall across the street to figure out our next move. An Italian gent approached us where we were parked behind a Wendys, and asked us where the Shrine was. We told him, and Jeff took his picture, suspecting he might be one of our PI friends. He wasn't, and took exception to having his picture taken. Apparently you don't do that in Italy!

Jeff deleted the image in front of him, and he went on his way. No, he wasn't a Scientologist, nope, just a tourist wanting to see the Shrine. Yeah, right. The Shrine is a real tourist destination. I bid him 'bon giorno,' and off he went. Jeff went off to try to get a pic of one of the vehicles which had been following us; the driver burned rubber in the parking lot to avoid getting photographed. I had my picket sign bungeed to the back seat of my bike, and it attracted the attention of a pair of punkish-looking wannabes in black clothes and black dyed hair. One of them was saying something stupid about my bike being fuel injected, like he knew something about BMW motorcycles. They were too close, so I doodled on over to hear one of them read my sign. "Word up!" I told him.

His voice rose in that whiny tone only a peeved adolescent can achieve. "You should take those stickers off that bike!" he told me. "I'm a Scientologist."

"Aww," said I. "I'm sorry to hear that. You should get a real life before you waste the one you've got."

They stomped off crankily into the mall. Word!

At this point, we decided to call it a night. I decided to stay over with Susan rather than Tory, although both had extended an invitation. Nothing personal, it's just that Susan is closer to San Diego. Jeff and I parted ways at the 110 freeway, each of us with our respective followers. Mine peeled off south of Compton, where I hope they had a flat at Normandie and Vermont, where the last LA riots started.

I spent a pleasant evening charming the fur off Susan's greyhounds, two beautiful rescued dogs which, like Bart Simpson's dog, were racing hounds in an earlier part of life.

The ride home was uneventful, and traffic was light.

I had to stop by my parents' house to give them the 411 on my Los Angeles adventure, and to reveal the cunning plan I concocted the night before to make sure this never happens again.

This is true,

-- --barb Chaplain,ARSCC xenubarb@netscape.net

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

--Dr. Dave Touretzky Peter Alexander

From: "Tanya" <durni@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Picket Report; Los Angeles 12-05
Date: 29 Dec 2005 05:32:36 -0800
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Just goes to show you that a little picket still has the power to bring forth Hubbard's programming.

I remember showing my brother (ex SO) a video of a picket at Flag. He immediately recognized the front of the Fort Harrison which confirmed to him that I wasn't lying. At first he couldn't belive it - in that he had been told that pickets were illegal. He wondered why the picketers weren't being arrested. I told him they were LEGALLY exercising their right to FREE SPEECH - something Scientology SAYS that they support.

Another time after that, my brother Jeff told him that he was going to picket the Buffalo Org. Fred reacted with that would probably be the worst thing that you could do to them. Well Jeff decided not to picket - just yet (I think he is waiting for his brother to join him).

Lately, the traffic around the Org is so null in Buffalo, it wouldn't make sense to picket there. It is the lost souls at the mall and the students at UB that they are after.

I was sorry to hear the towing company was able to manipulate you into paying them $220 for illegally towing your bike. The towing company doesn't care about who made the call, cause they got their money.

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:00:09 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Organization: ARSCC Intel Div
Subject: Re: Barb's Bike Towed
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The Real Coach Dan wrote:

> Excuse me for perhaps asking the obvious-
>
> If one parks a vehicle in an illegal spot, isn't it likely to get
> towed? Especially being the end of the month (cops have to meet their
> quotas, etc.)

>
Excuse ME for asking the obvious-

What part of my being a customer of the Sizzler don't you comprehend?

What part of my asking the manager of the Sizzler for permission to leave my bike in a corner of the parking lot don't you comprehend?

What part of my receiving permission from the manager don't you comprehend?

Quit trying to rewrite the story.

I was legally parked. I had permission to park there. We were followed by Richardson and a couple other pantloads of Scientology PIs.

Someone posing as the manager had my bike towed. The manager of the Sizzler did not have my bike towed.

I hope I have assisted you in comprehending this not terribly complex situation. Apparently you, Tigger, and Barbara Schwarz are the only people too stupid to grasp it. Pity. Good thing there's always a short bus for people like you, eh?

-- --barb Chaplain,ARSCC xenubarb@netscape.net

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

--Dr. Dave Touretzky Peter Alexander

Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 07:06:21 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Organization: ARSCC Intel Div
Subject: I cog it now!

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I now understand why these people are so doggedly misunderstanding the concept of "legally parked."

If I am right, then Scientology is wrong. Since Scientology can never be wrong, I must be.

Therefore, the reasoning must go that my bike HAD to be parked illegally, because Scientology just wouldn't lie and get it towed, them being "the most ethical people on the planet" and all.

So, it isn't mere stupidity and lack of comprehension at work here. It's Making Ron Right.

Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it, I can only deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

-- --barb Chaplain,ARSCC xenubarb@netscape.net

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

--Dr. Dave Touretzky Peter Alexander

From: petergolembe@web.de
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Date: 1 Jan 2006 08:06:54 -0800
Message-ID: <1136131614.881445.294340@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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barb wrote:

> Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it, I can only
> deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

> --

Now, now. Georgia clay ain't THAT bad...

> --barb
> Chaplain,ARSCC
> xenubarb@netscape.net
>
> "Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
> form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

>
> Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

>
> --Dr. Dave Touretzky
> Peter Alexander

From: "Tigger" <TiggerintheBox@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Date: 1 Jan 2006 08:20:00 -0800
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barb wrote:

> I now understand why these people are so doggedly misunderstanding the
> concept of "legally parked."

>
> If I am right, then Scientology is wrong. Since Scientology can never be
> wrong, I must be.

>
> Therefore, the reasoning must go that my bike HAD to be parked
> illegally, because Scientology just wouldn't lie and get it towed, them
> being "the most ethical people on the planet" and all.

>
> So, it isn't mere stupidity and lack of comprehension at work here. It's
> Making Ron Right.

More barb yammering.

>
> Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it, I can only
> deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

The Yammers of Barb, the VooDoo Queen

- Ghttp://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=wB2Tdw4AAAAur0mYP0Wj8C0_4FnHhcGG&scoring=d&hl=en

> --
> --barb
> Chaplain,ARSCC
> xenubarb@netscape.net
>
> "Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
> form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

>
> Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

>
> --Dr. Dave Touretzky
> Peter Alexander

From: Tiggerinthebox@webtv.net (Tigger Tigger)
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:01:13 -0600
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URL Correction:

The Yammers of "barb" Graham, aka`Warr. the Voodoo DooDoo Queen

http://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=wB2Tdw4AAAAur0mYP0Wj8C0_4FnHhcGG&scoring=d&hl=en

From: Lermanet.com <alerma@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Organization: Lermanet.com Exposing the CON called Scientology
Message-ID: <fgdgr1156uap8c69gd1e2i1p48r5m8p7tl@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:10:45 GMT

On 1 Jan 2006 08:20:00 -0800, "Tigger" <TiggerintheBox@webtv.net> wrote:

>
>
>barb wrote:

>> I now understand why these people are so doggedly misunderstanding the
>> concept of "legally parked."

>>
>> If I am right, then Scientology is wrong. Since Scientology can never be
>> wrong, I must be.

>>
>> Therefore, the reasoning must go that my bike HAD to be parked
>> illegally, because Scientology just wouldn't lie and get it towed, them
>> being "the most ethical people on the planet" and all.

>>
>> So, it isn't mere stupidity and lack of comprehension at work here. It's
>> Making Ron Right.

>
>More barb yammering.

>>
>> Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it, I can only
>> deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

Well, I've suspected that Tigger was actually an osa actress, based upon her choice of targets but mostly due to my inability to concieve of anyone of such stupidity.. because I cannot concieve of such stupidity, and I seek to make it make sense, i am left to conclude that it is a show, a contrivance, just part of the global theatrical...perhaps.

Or... perhaps it is in fact that stupid, and easily manipulated, in which case, I suppose I have learned something from tigger about the degree of stupidity humans are capable of.

>
>The Yammers of Barb, the VooDoo Queen
>
>-
>Ghttp://groups.google.com/groups?enc_author=wB2Tdw4AAAAur0mYP0Wj8C0_4FnHhcGG&scoring=d&hl=en
>
>
>> --
>> --barb
>> Chaplain,ARSCC
>> xenubarb@netscape.net
>>
>> "Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
>> form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."

>> This assistance might involve holding you against your
>> will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
>> friends and family, and denying you access to
>> appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
>> for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
>> the release form absolves your caretakers of all
>> responsibility for your suffering and death.

>>
>> Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

>>
>> --Dr. Dave Touretzky
>> Peter Alexander

Arnaldo Lerma Lermanet.com Exposing the CON

I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake

If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!

29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema "the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "

The internet is the Liberty Tree

http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/altreligionscientology-killfile-settings.htm http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/crowley-hubbard-666.htm http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/flint-suicides-in-scientology-040383.htm both with IMAGES!!

"Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world, causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their hosts" [Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]

What do we get from getting people out of scientology?

We create an individual who has become a Houdini of all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.

People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental traps..

We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains of all.

Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma

From: "zeeorger" <zeeorger@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Date: 1 Jan 2006 09:55:38 -0800
Message-ID: <1136138138.106268.36020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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posting-account=A09h5A0AAACUYyE7XPsMn_tT5PeYMT6I

barb wrote:

> I now understand why these people are so doggedly misunderstanding the
> concept of "legally parked."

> If I am right, then Scientology is wrong. Since Scientology can
never be > wrong, I must be.

> Therefore, the reasoning must go that my bike HAD to be parked
> illegally, because Scientology just wouldn't lie and get it towed, them
> being "the most ethical people on the planet" and all.

>
> So, it isn't mere stupidity and lack of comprehension at work here. It's
> Making Ron Right.

>
> Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it, I can only
> deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

> --
> --barb
> Chaplain,ARSCC
> xenubarb@netscape.net

XenuBarb,

You got it! This pseudo-computation runs through the entire toy-navy hierarchy.

Any action by the RTC down through INT management, the CLOs and the most inept Continental Justice Chief is, by definition. never wrong.

They are, in their view, the most ethical people on the planet, bringing 'ethics' into an a degraded environment full of wogs. Any CI to these idiots will get you labeld as being CI to "Command Intention".

- Its writen POLICY don't you know.

This brain damage is what makes CoS make "1984" look like a mere shadow.

The way RTC controls its minons is by creating an 'atomosphere' of paranoia at the posibility that the superior technology of Scientology may be "lost". RTC loves to push buttons, especially the overwhelm button.

From: "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net>
Subject: Re: I cog it now!

Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:05:24 -0800
Organization: The Diamond Lane
Message-ID: <dp9n7f$98u$1@news.tdl.com>
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original

"zeeorger" <zeeorger@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1136138138.106268.36020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> barb wrote:

>> I now understand why these people are so doggedly
>> misunderstanding the
>> concept of "legally parked."

>
>
> > If I am right, then Scientology is wrong. Since
> > Scientology can
> never be
> > wrong, I must be.

>
>> Therefore, the reasoning must go that my bike HAD to be
>> parked
>> illegally, because Scientology just wouldn't lie and get it
>> towed, them
>> being "the most ethical people on the planet" and all.

>>
>> So, it isn't mere stupidity and lack of comprehension at
>> work here. It's
>> Making Ron Right.

>>
>> Except for Tigger. As the only non-clam yammerer about it,
>> I can only
>> deduce the woman is stupid as Georgia clay.

>> --
>> --barb
>> Chaplain,ARSCC
>> xenubarb@netscape.net
>
>
> XenuBarb,
>
> You got it! This pseudo-computation runs through the entire
> toy-navy
> hierarchy.

>
> Any action by the RTC down through INT management, the CLOs
> and the
> most inept Continental Justice Chief is, by definition.

> never wrong.

> They are, in their view, the most ethical people on the
> planet,
> bringing 'ethics' into an a degraded environment full of
> wogs. Any CI
> to these idiots will get you labeld as being CI to "Command
> Intention".

> - Its writen POLICY don't you know.

>
> This brain damage is what makes CoS make "1984" look like a
> mere
> shadow.

>
> The way RTC controls its minons is by creating an
> 'atomosphere' of
> paranoia at the posibility that the superior technology of
> Scientology
> may be "lost". RTC loves to push buttons, especially the
> overwhelm
> button.

It worked for them too. But only in the short term.

Failing to destroy their targets utterly has resulted in the targets coming back to get a good look at what was behind the slime job.

Ahh it was L Ron Hubbard the psychopath.

I had predicted on ARS in 1993. That scientology inc would stay vicious and thereby spawn more critics than it could handle with thugs, hitmen and whores...

....so here we are 13 unlucky years later.. To stop the expose now scientology inc will have to murder half of the worlds free press and erase 20 million hard drives. .. they wont be able to hire enough killers to pull it off.

Phil Scott

>
> Z
>

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