Re: The Last Days of L Ron Hubbard

Re: The Last Days of L Ron Hubbard http://www.scientology-kills.org

Zinj <zinjifar@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.18cd65e64c842ad89897a3@news2.lightlink.com>... > In article <a6bc00a0.0303031229.5457e19f@posting.google.com>,
> BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com says...
> > "Feisty" <sunny@skytoday.com> wrote in message news:<QPB8a.5095$fa.2138140@dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net>...
>
> <snip>
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> > Once again, that man was not L. Ron Hubbard but Jack, a doppelgaenger,
> > just as Saddam Hussein has.
> > L. Ron Hubbard died around May 5, 1984. He was murdered. Jack was
> > hired by the infiltrated Scientology orgs to cover the murder up.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> Ummmmm.... did your *own* nazi/german implant tell you this? Or was it
> the 'true' Marty Rathbun whose own doppelgaenger currently is not in
> prison?
>
> Zinj

Alright, everybody, listen up: Do you want to know why David Miscavige and other Scientology infiltrators didn't want an autopsy on that dead body in January 1986? Because they knew very well that the dead guy, Jack, wasn't L. Ron Hubbard. That's also why they destroyed the photos of the body.

Jack was a clone, just like Nibbs is one, nothing else than a cheap, conspiring Doppelgaenger who was paid to play L. Ron Hubbard after Ron was murdered by medical doctors on order of the still German Nazi secret service around May 5, 1984. How do I know? Ron and I have a special spiritual connection. I know it from him. Also, I could read it in the minds of others that day on which L. Ron Hubbard was murdered. One big bag of bad conscience was hanging over the orgs.

His murder was concealed. However, voices of people who knew him, real Scientologists, who wanted to see him, including myself, did not silence. The still existing German Nazi secret service, their psychs and masterminds in destroying L. Ron Hubbard's life and their agents, the Scientology attackers and infiltrators picked January 24, 1986, the day space shuttle challenger was blown up, to turn against their co-conspirator, clone Jack. They killed Jack that day to get as little media attention as possible to conceal that Jack wasn't L. Ron Hubbard. The last they wanted was some nosy reporters looking in the suspicious death and discovering that Jack wasn't L. Ron Hubbard and that Ron was secretly murdered years earlier.

I saw photos of Jack, the bum. How dare anybody to claim it was L. Ron Hubbard. It also seems to me that Jack was at least a head shorter than Ron.

I am sure that Ron's body wasn't cremated but that the Germans got it, and their disgusting psychs studied his brain to figure out why he was that genious.

The first article in this thread said that Dr. Gene Denk gave the guy (Jack) Vistaril, a psychiatric drug. If this is true, how could he? Isn't Denk a Scientologist? Why is he prescribing psychiatric drugs and does exactly what the psychs order? Do we have a criminal infiltrator in Dr. Denk? I am sure about that he is one of the many that say they are Scientologists when they in fact are none. Trust me, if that would have been Ron, he would have not taken that drug, not even on his death bed.

As far as L. Ron Hubbard's wills are concerned: His real one was stolen and likely destroyed. As far as the other very suspicuous wills are concerned: Forgeries, forgeries, forgeries! And the fingerprints on them? They can be forged too and they were forged.

I recently heard criminal investigator speak, who solved crimes for several decades. He told that he came to the conclusion that there is no such a thing as the perfect crime. The time and also science catch up with the criminals. What sounded as perfect crime in 1984 is no perfect crime anymore today. The truth will come out.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: LRH Scripture "Brainwashing in 20 Seconds"
Date: 6 Mar 2003 09:25:52 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303060925.7842ca14@posting.google.com>

James R. Ford <ctr00979@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:<28ed6vobjunojqu5s7aai7j4giouss47ul@4ax.com>... > On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:01:18 GMT, "Feisty" <sunny@skytoday.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >"Now we know more about psychiatry than psychiatrists themselves.
> >We can brainwash somebody faster than the Russians. In 20 seconds,
> >we achieve total amnesia, compared to three years just to make someone
> >a little shaky in his loyalties."
> >
> > - L. Ron Hubbard
> >
> >
>
> While I have no doubt that Mo Ron Hubbard said this, a cite woudl be
> nice. That would provide more credibility to the statement. Further,
> since no clams have come rushing out yelling about it being false, it
> must be from something within their holey gbraille.
>
> Please give us the cite.

He did not say that. It's another forgery under his name. Disgusting. Ron was completely opposed to any form of mindcontrol and amnesia. This is a campaign of the German still active Nazi secret service, their psychs who try to give Ron their own characters. However, he knew more than psychs. What he knew and they don't is that they will not last but will convicted on everything they did covertly to humanity in just a little while to come.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: Warrior <warrior@xenu.ca>
Subject: LRH Scripture "Brainwashing in 20 Seconds"
Date: 6 Mar 2003 10:22:49 -0800
Message-ID: <b483lp01u03@drn.newsguy.com>

>> On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:01:18 GMT, "Feisty" <sunny@skytoday.com> posted
>>the following:
>>>
>>>"Now we know more about psychiatry than psychiatrists themselves.
>>>We can brainwash somebody faster than the Russians. In 20 seconds,
>>>we achieve total amnesia, compared to three years just to make someone
>>>a little shaky in his loyalties."
>>>
>>> - L. Ron Hubbard

>James R. Ford <ctr00979@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:
><28ed6vobjunojqu5s7aai7j4giouss47ul@4ax.com>:
>>
>> While I have no doubt that Mo Ron Hubbard said this, a cite woudl be
>> nice. That would provide more credibility to the statement. Further,
>> since no clams have come rushing out yelling about it being false, it
>> must be from something within their holey gbraille.
>>
>> Please give us the cite.

In article <a6bc00a0.0303060925.7842ca14@posting.google.com>, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com says... >
>He did not say that. It's another forgery under his name.
>
>Barbara Schwarz

Wrong. This exact quote is in HCO Technical Bulletin of 22 July 1956, copyright L. Ron Hubbard:

"3. We now know more than life. An oddity indeed!

"4. We now know more about psychiatry than psychiatrists. We can brainwash faster than the Russians (20 secs to total amnesia against three years to slightly confused loyalty)."

"There is nothing essentially wrong with hypnotism so long as one can undo hypnotism. We can undo hypnotism, therefore it is not very important whether we hypnotize people or not; but the analyst could not unhypnotize people. He did not even know what the mechanism of hypnotism was, and as a result he was not thereby entitled to use it. Only that person who is able to produce both the kill and the cure should be permitted to kill."

Warrior - Sunshine disinfects http://warrior.xenu.ca

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: I want justice for L. Ron Hubbard!
Date: 7 Mar 2003 09:57:21 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303070957.34eb6282@posting.google.com>

L. Ron Hubbard was murdered in May of 1984. The dead guy of 1986 wasn't Ron, but a Doppelgaenger with name Jack. Yes, doppelgaenger exist. It is reported that Saddam Hussein has nine of them, and scientists have real troubles to keep them apart.

I learned that fingerprints were taken from the dead body of 1986. That maybe true, but the fingerprints that were delivered to a court in the Nibbs De Wolfe case already were not Ron's, but I bet they were also Jack's. I also are certain that the Department of Justice has not L. Ron Hubbard fingerprints, but if they have any, they have those that are not Ron's. (You probably are interested to know that all FBI Field Offices wrote to me that they never considered L. Ron Hubbard a person of interest to be investigated and that they never had him under any surveillance.)If the FBI wasn't interested in Ron, how come you attackers dare to name Ron a criminal?

I am certain that the case that Nibbs DeWolfe filed was just the secret preparation by a still existing German Nazi Psych secret service, that also infiltrated the Scientology orgs with their agents, to get Jack's fingerprints in court files, to make them official as Ron's. The idea was to use then Jack's prints for everything they did under Ron's name without Ron's knowledge or authorization.

Ron did not know of the case that Nibbs filed. If he would have known, he would have come forward and would have proved that he is not Nibbs father but that Nibbs is a criminal clone, just as Jack was.

Ron wasn't born in March 1911. I remember we celebrated his birthday in February and that he was born in the mid 1920s. If you are constantly surrounded by criminal agents that pose as Scientologists and pour an extra portion chlorine in your water, you bleach and you get white hair long before your time.

A footnote to fingerprints: In case Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 509 U.S. 579, 113 S. Ct. 27 86, 125 L.Ed.2d 469 (1993) the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that science has to meet the "Daubert-test". Fingerprints don't match the test because it is up to the individuals to interpret if they fit. (By the way, Psychiatry also don't meet the Daubert-test, since it is junk-science, actually the junkiest of all junky junk-sciences.)

There was George C. Bonebrake, a former supervisor of the Latent Fingerprint Section of the FBI. He informed about fraudulent, forged fingerprints already in 1976. The Police Crime Lab in Salt Lake City, supervisor Garry L. Johanson revealed that there are methods of altering and creating fraudulent fingerprints and explained so detailed how criminals do it that those that didn't know how to do it, know it just by reading his exlanations. Fingerprints can be also planted on a crime scene to frame an innocent person.

Back to Ron: Ron was indeed the son of President Eisenhower. I have witnessed their father-son relationship with my own eyes. Murder of a member of a presidential family qualifies for the death penality. (Read the Federal Death Penalty Act.) Conspiracy to murder maybe also punished with death.

So, who are the doctors that killed L. Ron Hubbard with a death bringing injection, and who are the Scientology infiltrators that assisted and co-conspired? Any tips from you, Dr. Gene Denk, David Miscavige, Ann and Pat Broker?

All involved will be convicted down the road. If those who were involved want me to shut up they have to kill me too. I would kick their disgusting murderbutts from the beyond. I want justice for Ron.

Barbara Schwarz, March 7, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 1: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you never will be the same.
Date: 10 Mar 2003 10:35:17 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303101035.2cc7f589@posting.google.com>

I have seen the "OT 3 material" on several website and posted in threads. The handwriting in which it is written is not, I repeat, not L.Ron Hubbard's.

If I would stick a pen between my toes, I could copy Ron's handwritting better than this criminal person did that wrote the OT 3 material. This material is written rather in printed letters, and why? Because printed letters can be easier forged. What is the matter with those people that claim that this material was written by L. Ron Hubbard? Do they have hot potatos on their eyes? I have seen better forgeries of Ron's handwritting than the OT 3 material.

In the late 70s, early 80s a group of Scientology infiltrators forged L. Ron Hubbard's signature on a daily basis. They signed all the letters that were written in Ron's name to any Scientologist that wrote to Ron. That was done completely without his knowledge or consent. In other words: There were a lot of forgers of Ron's handwriting amongst the Scientology infiltrators. They could have picked a better forger than the one who wrote OT 3.

This OT 3 material, as published on the web, is very twisted from the OT levels that Ron really wrote. However, fact is that suppression is as old as mankind. It is not only a trademark of this planet, although Earth is an extremly perverted place. The people that mess around with the human soul and mind are named psychiatrists on earth but they existed all through time and through universe, just with a different name.

Implants are real. They happened in the past on the time track and still happen is this time. I have seen what psychs do to people. They really still implant people, I swear to God. Criminals folks that are unable to convince others with words or impressive good deeds or intelligence are using implants, hypnosis, drugs and mindcontrol to control others. This is very sad, but this is the way it is. Implants exists, they are very harmful, they are difficult to discover, they are psych rotten and make people think that they don't have implants. Most people don't recover from them without help. That kind of help you don't get in mental institutions. There you just get more implants.

The implants in their subconcious minds that people received and still are getting are more gruesome and sneaky than what was described in the forged OT 3 material. L. Ron Hubbard wrote much more about suppression and implants and this was removed from Scientology material by criminal infiltrators.

Xenu was not just one guy but a large number of perverted psychs. They are not locked up and held captive by an "eternal battery". There is no such a thing as an eternal piece of material. Ron never would have written such a nonsense. What's correct about the OT 3 material is that most gruesome activities against thetans, (souls, for those that don't know what a thetan is) were done on the time track, all through the history of the universe by people that are psychiatrists in their attitude and if reincarnated on earth became psychs.

Thetans with or without a body can be implanted, and it is not only a matter of 75 million years ago. It happpens still right here on earth. That is what Ron said. Ron's OT materials were changed to make Scientologists believe that implants or Xenu-like activities were all just in the past and nobody is to be blamed and arrested for those despicable things in present time.

Having met psychs, having seen their insanity, I concluded that they do not only still work on pasting thetans together, but also splitting them to make them smaller and to trick them in animal bodies. I bet they would like to do that to Ron, but they are not sure if it would work on him. If it works on others doesn't mean that they have any luck with him. The last they want is more Ron's, that look right right through them and reveal their disgusting inhumane activities.

In this newsgroup are people that don't believe anything except in their case officer. Telling them that they are spiritual beings is competely unreal to them. They use their time mainly to attack others and not to think who they are, where they came from and where they are headed.

However, that a human being is more than a bag of bones, meat and blood should be real to anybody. There is a spirit, a soul, the thetan, and he can be seen. He indeed consist a bit out of material. Many mindcontroller psychs know that, but they deliberately withhold that scientifical information from mankind. They don't like protection of the human sould by laws. It's makes it easier for them to mess around with spirits.

If you would take a special infra-red camera that makes everything visible, and if you would film somebody dying, you would be able to discover that spirit on film. You can follow the spirit around and pretty much the only people doing so are the mindcontroller psychs that often mistreat, implant and trap the thetan, the spirit, in a body they choose for him. It would be much better if family of the dying person would keep track of the soul that they love and to make sure that the family member can stay with him and he is not stuffed in another family with no memory anymore to whom he belonged before.

Read more in section two of this series. A big cloud will be lifted from your eyes, and if you already know about that, because heard if from Ron himself once, enjoy to hear the data finally again.

Barbara Schwarz, March 10, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 2: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you never will be the same!
Date: 11 Mar 2003 09:45:56 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303110945.60fb908a@posting.google.com>

Before I continue to explain what I recall L. Ron Hubbard saying about body thetans (which were thetans with a body), I also want to state here what I remember he said about thetans without a body and how they influence beings that have a body.

Indeed, psychs (mindcontrollers) alter the thinking of a thetan. They implant people that have a body and also thetans that have no body. Information in OT 3 that thetans without a body were abused and implanted is correct. But it is no matter of just the past.

Psychs, mindcontrollers, lure thetans, for example, people that just died, to implant stations. There they abuse and implant the spirits, show them 3D movies to alter their reality to control them better. The mindcontrollers use mostly the codes to which the person was run by her case officer, when she had a body, to attract the person to the implant stations. Having those codes makes it very easy for the psychs to get the thetans in a trap. As soon as the thetan hears the code, he acts because thinks that the codes and the case officer are there to help him. He doesn't suspect that he is being trapped by a secret service, by psychs and mindcontrollers that have those codes also. Despite having no body anymore, the thetan can still feel, think, hear, see. And he can move to places.

I swear, this is some of what Ron said and how I recall it.

There are many thetans. If they don't try to get a body, the mindcontrollers are often not that interested in them, so those hang around without a body. Those thetans don't believe in past and future lives. They hang around after having lost their physical forms a long time ago and are waiting for a savior to take them to heaven or something like that. Some don't wait for anybody. They don't believe in anything just exist bodyless, and they often are miserable, despite that they can't feel so bad, they don't have to battle sickness and pain.

Many hang out in old houses and on cemetaries. When you go there, some jump on you, try to scare the hell out of you and probably try to kill you. But as they have no real spiritual abilities, no body, no weapon, they can't do a thing to you. If you are alert, you will notice their presence and intentions, that is what makes you feel creepy.

If you don't believe that thetans (spirits) exist, take one of those special camcorders that record even the smallest amount of material. Go to the graveyards, old houses, basements, attics and tape. You will discover them. You don't have to believe me, just believe your own eyes. I saw them through such a camera, and I knew what I have seen: Bodyless thetans hanging out slowly moving around.

My sister is no Scientologist but before she moves in a house she checks it out emotionally. She walks through the empty rooms testing if there is anything in there that makes her feel bad or depressed. If "the flow" inside is good, she considers to move in, if she feels that something evil jumps on her, something that makes her feel uncomfortable, she will not move in.

More to come in my sequel number three of this series.

Barbara Schwarz, March 11, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 3: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 11 Mar 2003 10:21:50 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303111021.48e55a3a@posting.google.com>

The basements and attics in Germany's old houses, build several centuries ago, are slightly scary. Scarier than any old basement or attic of the USA I was ever in. Large clouds of rotten bodyless thetans must hang in those European houses.

I remember especially one Saturday afternoon. I tried to hang up my laundry on the attic in the house of the Arnulfstrasse 140 in Munich. Susanna Park's little girl, Saretha was usually following me everywhere I went. She was happy and cheerful, but at the moment we walked on that attic she suddenly became quiet, and few moments later she started to cry.

Nobody was in the attic except her and I. She was used to me, and this was the first time I ever saw her cry. The attic was completely empty, there were no boxes behind somebody scary with a body could have hidden. All what was up there were some clotheslines.

I felt it too, it was a creepy feeling as if bodyless forces would blanket us. If I would have been alone, I would have stayed to show those spirits that they don't scare me to death, but I did not want to put Saretha through it. I grabbed the kid and the wet laundry, and I left that attic right away.

Half way down the staircase it felt as if a dark cloud lifted from us. And guess what happened to Saretha? She stopped crying and was her cheerful self again. I noticed that those thetans leave you after a while, they usually don't stick to you for a long time.

But we never walked up there again. If you live in Europe, e.g. in Germany, just try it out. Check how you feel before you go in an old attic or cellar. Check how you feel when you are in there. Don't do anything. Just stand there and observe how you feel. I bet any alert person can feel them, and many of those spirits are suppressive and are giving you the creeps.

However, be careful not to contract any illness in those wet basements. The are moldy like hell. Bacteria might also jump on you.

It will not be the nice old lady of next door, who died, that scares you. People that were not scary while they had a body will not be creepy when they have none. People that were suppressive while having a body will make feel you also creepy when they have none.

Bodyless thetans are however a walk in the park compared to what the thetans with a body, the real body thetans, can do to you. Those are the psychs, the mindcontrollers, the technicans, case officers that use your bodyimplants to subconciously run you and alter your personality.

They are the real problem. Life would be a breeze if bodyless thetans were the only evil guys hanging around you or even being in you. L. Ron Hubbard's OT levels were altered by Scientology infiltrators to let the real trouble makers come away. If a Scientologist should feel that he is not really himself, he should make the wrong conclusion that this must be caused by the bodyless BT's, the body thetans that stick to you without a having a body.

It's not them that cause lots of harm, folks. It's the psychs that have invaded your body with modern technique, and they channel in your subconcious mind. They are the body thetans, and they have to leave you alone in order for you to be truly yourself.

This is what Ron said.

More to come in sequel 4.

Barbara Schwarz March 11, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 4: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 12 Mar 2003 10:32:34 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303121032.46063000@posting.google.com>

Before you handle and help bodyless thetans, you have to help yourself to get rid of the much worse problem: psychiatrists, mindcontrollers, case officers using microchips ear- and body implants to talk and order (often repeatedly by having tapes run) in your subconscious mind. They do that to control your thinking, your activities, your memories, your abilities to learn, to recall the timetrack, to go exterior, and so many more of your spiritual abilities. It's them who prevent that you gain perfection of your spiritual abilities, it is them who are in the way for you to become a stable OT that is cause over MEST.

I am not preaching a new religion, it is no squirrel Scientology, it is original L. Ron Hubbard Scientology. I remember what Ron said and wrote about that very clearly. The forged OT 3 level was planted in the orgs by Scientology infiltrators. That is the squirrel stuff!

The psychs, mindcontrollers, case officers channel in your subconcious mind. They make you depressed, suicidal, fearful, feeling worthless, losing self-esteem, feeling unable, sad, etc. No reason to gulp Prozac and Zoloft and all the other idiotic personality changing body harming drugs. You have to get the mindcontrollers out of your body and away from your mind; you have to spill the beans on them so that they can't do anymore what they do without fearing that they are being arrested.

They can talk in your mind and give you the idea to cheat on your partner. Without that you probably never would have gotten that idea in the first place. They channel you criminal and perverted ideas that were not originated in your mind but in theirs. Can you see how rotten that is?

It is them who let you dream bad or not sleep at all; it is them who let you take up and not end bad habits; it is them who play out family members and friends against each other by calling in their subconciousness to do and say exactly what's upsetting the others.

It's them who prevent peace in many countries and between groups by calling neverending hostilities and hatred in the subconscious minds of everyone concerned. (And this they do often not only with hidden commands, but with for the rotten agent audible commands.)

Whatever comes in your mind, I advise you to think about it. Be sure to discard everything criminal and perverted. Don't act on it by telling yourself that somebody tries to destroy your good personality by sending you harmful subconcious commands that will pull you down and make you less of a happy person.

Most of all you have to agree that manipulation of the subconcious mind is an outrageous crime, violates the human rights and must be fought till it doesn't exist anymore.

They destroy also your body by using body implants to activate remote controlled germs that are everywhere you go. They can make you sick and kill you with it. That is then called a "natural death" by idiotic doctors. Purpose of killing you is to implant you again, to abuse you and to make you smaller.

They murder people with remote controlled bacteria that they activiate with inaudible commands through the ear-and body implants. Those germs also follow a code, just as most people on earth do. I am absolutely certain that doctors and nurses, "our angels in white" implant already the new born babies with those really tiny microchips without that parents know it.

Even birth defects in babies, in a mothers womb, can and often are caused by remote controlled germs. They just have bacteria attacking baby's gene and no healthy child is delivered.

I read somewhere that there are more than 500.000 sicknesses on earth. I bet that almost all of those can be put on a list of no more existing diseases if psychs, mindcontrollers, case officers are stopped to channel in the subconcious mind of people to kill them with remote controlled germs, and when people are allowed to live in such environments that truly keeps them healthy and that is not on the unprotected surface of the earth.

Trying to make bodyless bodythetans leave you doesn't handle the bodythetans with a body. Those need to be indicted, prosecuted and convicted. As long as nobody tries to capture and convict them, they are free to continue their despicable line of work, and they are free to commit further outrageous crimes through everybody's subconcious mind.

Those psychs and mindcontrollers are as rotten as hell itself. And they are very stupid too because they very much so become the victim of their own system down the road. Everything that they do to others, will be done to them. If this cycle is not interrupted, nobody will be ever safe and free. And you will be better off hanging around in an attic with no body at all.

In part 5 of this series, it get's even more exciting. You really have to know that.

Barbara Schwarz, March 11, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 5: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 13 Mar 2003 09:52:29 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303130952.54d4a3b9@posting.google.com>

This installment is what you were always looking for, trust me, and today you are lucky enough to read it.

It is absolutely, I repeat, absolutely false that L. Ron Hubbard should have ever said or written that God doesn't exist and is just an implant. Psychs hate the idea of religion. It's them that hate God, because they want to be God. Believe me, mindcontrollers/psychs don't implant people to be religious and to believe in God. That is what they want to implant out of people, they steal religious beliefs instead of implanting them.

Ethical beliefs in God, ethical religious behavior is what's in the way for the mindcontrollers, the psychs, of even more destroyal of the moral and peace of this earth. They rather implant people to think that religion is bad and God is just a fantasy. They set radicals up to commit outrageous crimes in the name of God and religion to give religion and God a bad name.

The overwhellming majority of earth population still believes in God. I read in some postings of this newsgroup that this would be strange and that the majority of people must be crazy. They aren't. They basically know that God really exists, it doesn't matter how sneaky the psychs-campaigns are to make people blame and hate him.

Ron never said and never wrote that God doesn't exist. If you heard or read this, it was a forgery. He knew better than anybody of God's existance, because Ron was/is one of God's identities on earth. I am not kidding.

After I was kicked out of the infiltrated orgs in 1984, I had a short while in which I didn't know anymore what to believe. I reached out, I spiritually contacted Ron, hoping he would hear me. I heard that many people do that with their deceased relatives. I don't know their success rate in getting a reply, but I got answers. Ever since I saw miracles happen.

My life was dangerous, out of balance, and sometimes my life was only hanging anymore on a thread. That I made it through it, that I survived is because I had indeed active help from above, from a God that stretches all over the universe, that is almighty and listens and helps me. (I call him not God, I call him Ron.) If somebody is around you and helps you, you get an idea of what the personality is like, and God's personality is like Ron's, the man that the anti-Scientologists don't know but attack. If that is not real to you than because you never tried to contact God or you are such a bad apple that God don't want to talk to and help you.

Some Muslims interpret God as the kind of warrior that likes to battle and attack, some Christians interpret God as the kid of fool that anyway forgives all their sins and that's why they can continue to commit them. The real God is none of the both. The one that helped me and that is the only one around, is absolutely just. He is neither an old man, nor an unactive sort of "light", nor only an observer. He is a highly active spirit with different identities on earth and minds everywhere to save the universe. He is organized. His mission is to make people see and understand everything there is. His enemies (in Christian words: the devil) are blindness, ignorance, crime, addiction, stupidity and suppression.

If you ever hear the statement:"It is not for us to know", be informed that was made by psychs and mindcontrollers to stay stupid. That is not a statement that God wants you to operate on. He wants you to know.

Ron said that all religious scriptures, e.g. the Bible, the Koran, etc, were re-written. What happened to original Scientology religious literature happened also to the scriptures of all other religions: Truth was taken out, and it was exchanged with falsehoods to mislead.

Read in installment number 6 of this series what Ron said about Jesus. You will be surprised or perhaps not. Some Scientologists know about it, they just don't talk about it.

Barbara Schwarz, March 13, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 5: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 15 Mar 2003 11:07:22 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303151107.5ddf29ec@posting.google.com>

pekteno@yahoo.com (Harold Pekteno) wrote in message news:<eb6dea9b.0303142032.2323628e@posting.google.com>... > BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote in message news:<a6bc00a0.0303130952.54d4a3b9@posting.google.com>...
>
> > Ron never said and never wrote that God doesn't exist. If you heard or
> > read this, it was a forgery. He knew better than anybody of God's
> > existance, because Ron was/is one of God's identities on earth. I am
> > not kidding.
>
> Why is there no written record of Ron ever having said any of this?
> Where can we go to see what he really said?

There is no written record, Harold, because criminal Scientology infiltrators listed to their caseofficers/mindcontrollers that channeled them to steal the record or to alter it.

I posted before that L. Ron Hubbard was under protective surveillance of the CIA at least since 1953. The CIA, and likely also other secret services, must have the original OT levels and everything that L. Ron Hubbard really said and wrote in their archives. It is them who need to be compelled to come forward with the original information. I know they have it.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 6: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 13 Mar 2003 10:36:18 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303131036.3ce0cdce@posting.google.com>

This is about what Ron thought, wrote and said about Jesus.

First of all, don't make the mistake to think that the bible or other religious scriptures are not altered. They are. Nothing is absolutely true anymore, because the world is secretly run by psychs/mindcontrollers since ever, and they have twisted everything around to mislead the world population.

It is documented by Christian and other researchers that the Catholic church had gathered around year 500 in what is today's Istanbul and decided to take the belief of Christans to past lives. They stole that belief that the early Christians had. It means that Jesus believed in past lives. The average Christians today are thinking that past lives have nothing to do with their religion. They are wrong, and they were betrayed. They believe today in scriptures that Jesus would have not taken seriously because so changed from what it once was.

It is outrageous that psychs, mindcontrollers wrote in the forged OT 3 level that L. Ron Hubbard should have said that Jesus did not exist and is just an implant.

Get this: Ron knew that Jesus was a woman and that her crucification was a lot worse than what is described in today's bible. The bible is like OT 3 and other Scientology material: Changed! Just anymore traces of truth in it.

Ron also discovered through auditing that the two men that were crucified together with Jesus were no criminals but her father and her husband. They too were miracle workers and had the same spiritual abilites. They all could fly and walk on water.

(Everybody probably can. But as everybody has mindcontrollers, psychs calling and running tapes in the subconcious mind that steal abilities, nobody can now. Just think, as you are able to raise your hand now, you should be able to lift up all of your body by being exterior. In other words: When the mindcontrollers are gone have a nice flight, but don't crack an ankle at landing.)

Ron loved and honored Jesus. He would have handed Scientology for safeguard to her but surely not to David Miscavige.

The psych-bible says that Jesus did not write one single word. Who right in mind believes that? Somebody so determined to better the world did not just talk and risk that everything will be forgotten or changed in a while by people that tell everything differently.

She turned out one scroll after the other, all collected and locked away by criminal psychs and mindcontrollers. But they are generous with planting forged scrolls all over the world to mislead the population as to what really happened, who Jesus and other religious and historical leaders really where and what they truly said and wrote.

And you Scientology attackers thought you would know Scientology. You aren't even close.

Barbara Schwarz, March 13, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 7: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:06:52 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303141306.176f6cbd@posting.google.com>

Somebody asked me what I think about Xenu and the volcanoes.

What matters is what L. Ron Hubbard wrote and said about that, because the original OT levels are his research. Since at least 1953, Ron was under protective surveillance of the CIA. They must have the original OT levels in their archives. Ron is still on this earth, just with another body. Scientologists have to find him and should ask him directly.

However, if some are interested in my recall of the data or my opinion, I tell you of course.

I believe that some of the data in OT 3 material are from Ron, are based on what he indeed discovered, but they are not the original OT 3 data, and some is misleading, and the OT 3 level also contains deliberate falsehoods by those that forged his handwritings.

I believe that Xenu was a psych himself but that Xenu wasn't his name. I believe that "Xenu" were several psychs, each of them trying to become the sole dictatory leader of several planets and aimed on overtaking all of the universe.

I don't believe that the problems of those planets were overpopulation rather that psychs tried to get rid of everyone that was non-conformistic. Many people that were transported to earth were psychs. I believe that it is very common that psych hates psych and tries to get rid of psychs.

Earth was picked because it is a remote spot in the universe, away from populated other planets, to prevent that the non-conformists and trouble makers come back soon or at all.

I don't think that the "Xenu" incident was 75 million years ago. I believe it was much more recent in history of earth.

I believe that thetans were transported to earth to be dumped here, but I rather believe in the transport of bodyless thetans than in the transport of billion dead bodies on rocket planes. It would have been much more quicker and would be much more economical for "Xenu" if those thetans would have been murdered and trapped on their own planets. Bodyless thetans are small. They can be squeezed together impanted to be unable to leave an ice block, bottles, glue, whatever.

Since I have seen those bodyless thetans in Utah through that special infra-red camera, I noticed that they rather behave as if they would have still a body. If I would have gone in there and tried to step with my foot on them, they would have bursted away. If bodyless thetans would be attacked with H-bombs, that would also affect them.

I believe that volcanoes were involved. To me vulcanoes look as there was nothing till a bomb fell to the ground and made holes that became volcanoes. I believe that thetans were bombed that way, and that this rotten action overwhellmed them with or without a body.

I also believe that the psychs, "Xenu" continued with implanting thetans after the bombing incidents.

If you doubt that anybody would do that, just remember Hitler and the Nazis. They would have eliminated all of the world population if they would have been not finally stopped. They would have developed rockets and would have gone in space and killed also everyone there.

I believe through a godly invention, Xenu, which became later Germans, overwhellmingly Bavarian psychs, got trapped here too and could not more leave Earth. That spared the universe from the worst, but Earth continue to have the problem.

Through bombing of the thetans they rather were splitted than glued together. Psychs like to tear apart. That could explain the lower life forms on this planet, as mice, fish, bacteria, etc. as thetans splitted in many parts.

As far as the thetans-clusters are concerned: I believe psychs, in other words, Xenu, did any imaginable experiments on thetans with or without any body but as far as myself is concerned, I am not clustered with anybody together. Ron is together with me in a spiritual identity, but that is all, and I don't want him to leave. The thetans that I have seen through the camera also looked single to me.

What I know a 1000 percent is that the thetans that speak and control your mind and your abilities are having a body. They are psychs with a body, mindcontrollers that are using ear- and body implants to run and control you and that also subconciously. They are Xenu,the same active psychs that caused so much harm before. They are the bodythetans. Bodyless thetans aren't the biggest problem at all.

If you ask how Ron could have found out about that, be reminded that he audited people. He did not made the stories up. He audited people with specific technology that he developed and the electro-meter that can messure spiritual energy if used correctly. The people that he audited were disconnected from the mindcontrollers/caseofficers or had none. They told about history independently the same thing. The e-meter indicated the same thing. He also made several expeditions to search for evidence that backed the auditing results up, and after all added up, he wrote it up for everyone.

But as I wrote before, many of that is altered and disappeared from the secretly infiltrated orgs.

Read more about it in next installment. This is about hell. Somebody wanted me to know what I think about hell. What the hell was he thinking asking me a hellish question like that? Hello, I am a good person, I have nothing to do with hell! Alright, I admit, I know all about hell. If you would know what hell is, it would scare the hell out of you. There is indeed a hell, and we are all in it!

Barbara Schwarz, March 14, 2003

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 5: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 17 Mar 2003 08:26:42 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303170826.714be153@posting.google.com>

pekteno@yahoo.com (Harold Pekteno) wrote in message news:<eb6dea9b.0303151744.362ea30@posting.google.com>... > BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote in message news:<a6bc00a0.0303151107.5ddf29ec@posting.google.com>...
>
> > I posted before that L. Ron Hubbard was under protective surveillance
> > of the CIA at least since 1953. The CIA, and likely also other secret
> > services, must have the original OT levels and everything that L. Ron
> > Hubbard really said and wrote in their archives. It is them who need
> > to be compelled to come forward with the original information. I know
> > they have it.
>
> Why would a nut job like Hubbard be under CIA protection?
>
> Are there =any= of your paranoid delusions that you =can= document?
> Do =you= have any papers or tapes that have not been tampered with?

Your mindcontrollers were and still are running a Nazi campaign against L. Ron Hubbard, just as they do with me. Purpose is to descredit us. Not everyone is buying disgusting unbased accusations that you make against L.Ron Hubbard or me. It's not not working with everyone only with those people that don't have a high IQ.

As to why L. Ron Hubbard was under protective CIA surveillance, read my former postings. I can't repeat everything over and over again.

You, and people like you are the nuts. L. Ron Hubbard was a serious scientist, who's work got badly altered by infiltrators, run by the mindcontrollers, which are a still active German Nazi psych secret service.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 5: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 17 Mar 2003 08:37:57 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303170837.2624eac2@posting.google.com>

Shy David wrote in message news:<3e7517fd@news2.lightlink.com>... > On 13 Mar 2003 09:52:29 -0800, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:
>
> Found in:
> alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology,alt.religion,alt.religion.scientology.xenu
>
> > This installment is what you were always looking for, trust me, and
> > today you are lucky enough to read it.
>
> Confirmed Mental.
>
> ---
> "Obedience is such a fundamental habit of the contemporary American mind that
> any kind of disobedience is regarded as a form of insanity." -- Edward Abbey

How can you post that Edward Abbey citation and not getting it, Dave Shy?

I am disobedient to the mindcontroller system. I am not runned as you are by ear implants from a case officer. You do what they channel you to do. You obay to a stupid code. I don't. You are claiming that my disobedience is "mental". (This is how I understand your stupid fraction of a sentence.) Underneath you citied Abbey and him saying that disobedience is regarded as form of insanity.(It is actually none, it's just disagreement or protest with something or someone.)

People say others are mental cases because those disagree with them. You are doing the same thing. I would try to understand the citiations that I am using before I would cite them, Dave.

I however don't agree with Abbey that only the American mind has a problem here. It is the problem of all the people of any nation on Earth.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 8: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it and you will be never the same!
Date: 17 Mar 2003 09:54:18 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303170954.453a17bf@posting.google.com>

I indicated that this sequel would be about hell, because some of you can't wait to get there, but from what I have read, God himself is still unclear to others, so hell has to wait, I'll take you to heaven and paradise in this installment.

Some of the data that you can find in Scientology are still original L. Ron Hubbard data and truthful. Other information was altered and twisted or completely removed by the criminal infiltrators.

In this sequel I post what I recall from the very basic and most important L.Ron Hubbard knowledge. However, I think any Scientologist has the right to read for himself or herself the original work of Ron, and you should demand from those that had Ron under protective surveillance, the CIA and other secret services, to make the original of his works, without any tricks and further changes in his texts, available to you.

Here is what I know and recall: God always existed. God wasn't created by anybody. We, the thetans (souls or spirits) also always existed. We are part of God. (The Mormons for example believe that they are Gods in baby shoes.)

In the beginning we were all unified in God. We loved and respected each other. The physical universe did not exist. All what existed was a good static, God. We were in communication with each other, but none of us had any body. (The communication back then probably can be compared to the Internet. You could be in touch with anyone within that static, but you weren't bothered by delay, commericals, foul language, perversion, criminality, lies, Nigerian scam letters, and nobody tried to declare you insane just you did not disagree with the others.)

Some felt bored and wanted a game with action. That is when the physical universe was postulated, created by God. But this is also when problems started. Thetans broke away from the unity, the static, and some of those thetans became rather instantly bad. Those that were the first that got really bad became psychiatrists later. They choose to control, implant and destroy others to get what they wanted.

God had also created the human body, male and female. Thetans picked those bodies up and made more. (By looking at the way two bodies can re-produce another one, by looking at how semen can produce more fruits, grains and vegetables, you can see how smart God is. In order to be not bothered to make the same thing over and over again, he created the universe like a copy machine. He made the original, rest can be made by others after the original creation. Just imagine what it would be like without the possibility of reproduction. People would have died out, thetans would have no body to pick and, God would have been constantly approached to produce a new ear of corn of something like it.)

I am sure Adam and Eve were not the true names of the first human couple in the universe. When troubles in paradise started "Adam and Eve" were not the only inhabitants with human bodies. I trust there was a civilization that lived peacefully together, except that those thetans which got bad rather instantly, showed up to destroy that civilization, also knows as paradise.

The bible speaks of a snake, Ron spoke of psychs, thetans with the sneaky characters of snakes trying to enslave others. Remember that medical doctors (and psychs are MD's) even have the snake as their symbol. If they would be no snakes themselves, they would have rather choosen another symbol, a harmless one like a bunny or a goldfish.

The bible reports that God told Adam and Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit, the apple, and that he became very upset because they ate it nevertheless, and that God kicked them out of the paradise and penalized them terribly.

That is not how I recall it, that is not the God that I know. The one that I know is the only one out there. God would never tell anybody to obay just for the sake of rules. Suppressive people, psychs are like that, but God is no psych. (Furthermore, an apple a day keeps the doctor away. I wonder why that did not work in paradise.)

Seriously, the problem was not the apple. The problem were drugs. God warned of drugs that would destroy the paradise, and it did. Is there really anybody that thinks that God is or was so gruesome to kick anybody out of the paradise and be inflamed in all eternity just because of the Granny Smith? Give me a break!

The snake, the thetans with the psych characters tempted those first people with drugs, and they destroyed the perfect civilization that they had. They became criminal drug addicts and ruined the paradise for themselves. Since ever, God tries to rebuild paradise for everyone that is not destructive, but people are just too blind to recognize him or his mission and activities.

It was wasn't "Adam and Eve" that turned against God. "Eve" was good, and "Adam" had a strong character, after all, they were God's creation, he was in them, as he was in Jesus. Those thetans that walked another path and broke away from God inhabited bodies that were re-produced down the line. Those were the people that were tempted by drugs and fell for the snake.

The bible and also other religious books contain grains of truth, but they are no "good books". The story of Adam and Eve is an attempt to blame God of irrational behavior and of unjust, grisly revenge, which is outrageous. The bible also wrongfully suggests that God isn't perfect, otherwise Eva wouldn't have been a bitch and Adam wouldn't had the weak character. God is perfect, but the bible suggests that God made bad products, which he didn't.

Read more in sequel number nine of this series.

Barbara Schwarz, March 17, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 4: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 18 Mar 2003 09:40:28 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303180940.79c1560f@posting.google.com>

"Lawrence" <Confidential@confidential.net> wrote in message news:<YwGdnUSI29_OkeqjXTWcpw@comcast.com>... > Dear Sputnik Group:
>
> Does your entire "group" share the same feeling for Ms. Barbara Schwarz?
>
> Lawrence
>
>
> "The Sputnik Group" <greatdebate@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:4b125b97.0303172243.748f3b8b@posting.google.com...
> Barbara,
> Please don't take this the wrong way, as I mean no disrespect to you,
> nor to any Scientologist. But this is a joke, right? Or are you not
> aware of how "Luft" this sounds? Do a Google search for "Nancy Ann
> Luft. She shares your paranoia.
>
> If I'm mistaken, hats off... you pulled my chain big time <g>. If I'm
> not, then I hope the population of mouth-breathers that take your
> drivel to heart have faculty over their last remaining brain cell to
> discern fact from (science) fiction.
>
> Either way, I have been completely enthralled by your recent posts,
> though unsure as to the motive. Clearly you expected a lash of
> negative feedback by posting that tripe on ARS. Well... there ya go.
> In fact I've enjoyed it so much that I've created a Word Document of
> all your "Part X..." posts in chronological order. With your
> permission I'd like to publicize it on my site. I don't really need
> your OK, but I have "ethics"... not to be confused with the
> Scientology version. I'm truly interested in what you have to say,
> otherwise I wouldn't have spent the time I did compiling your OT3
> story (which is unedited, with misspellings intact.)
>
> However, if you are, as I fear, sincere in your postings, then I hope
> you will continue to post on ARS. That means that you're spending time
> here and undoubtedly reading posts from people whom were in your shoes
> and "woke up." Tory is a great example. She was "in" for 30 years...
> her story is amazing.
>
> As I've stated before, I hope half the people on this board are
> Practicing Scientologists. That way we're reaching them; That way
> we're "waking them up." IT'S LIKE A VERY QUIET ALARM CLOCK THAT
> FINALLY WAKES YOU UP ALL OF A SUDDEN.
>
> Respectfully, (and I do mean that)
>
> Brian James

Brian James, and everyone else: I have nothing on common with Nancy Ann Luft. I don't like it that you compare me to other people, esp. to those that have case officers, mindcontrollers, like Luft, or others, people that just try to distract from what indeed the problems are.

I don't share Luft's political views, and as far as religious views are concerned, she doesn't appear to have any. I also find her posting style rather disgusting and vulgar. I am not using this kind of language. By comparing me to Luft, you just show that you are not bright enough to see the big difference and yes, you disrespect and insult me with that comparison. She is like others, including yourselves, not independent from the mindcontroller network. But I am.

Your friend Tory never was a true Scientologists. She did not wake up. She was sent in by her mindcontroller, committed her crimes in Scientology, then got order by her mindcontroller to attack Scientology, after she helped before to prepare the ground on which Scientology can be attacked.

Something is real wrong with your alarm clock, Brian, because you don't wake up.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 9: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 18 Mar 2003 09:19:15 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303180919.4cfee448@posting.google.com>

A few years ago I saw a report on TV about scientists trying to explain the universe, all there is to it. Neddless to say, much of what they said was backwards and far away from the truth, but one thing was interesting and appears to me as fact.

One scientist told that they looked at the biggest and smallest particles in the universe, and they found something really surprising. The common denominator of all those things is that everything is made of strings. One of the scientists said that even gravity can be explained that way.

In other words: If the universe would have been created by a big bang, it would not show real art work in each part, the smallest and the biggest. I guess that people that believe in the big bang rather are dramatizing the Xenu or other bombs. It also raises the question, if it was a big bang, what or who caused the big bang?

The universe was indeed created by God, and God is a scientist, weaver and artist amongst many other wonderful things. The cognition for me was that when the largest and smallest things in the universe are build after the same pattern, the universe must be created indeed by the same individual rather than by many. If it would have created by lots of different beings it would not show the same pattern.

I want to go briefly back to thetans (spirits or souls). As the thetans consists indeed of a small amount of material, they can be seen, can be captured and abused. As long as science and law is not aware of that, mindcontrollers, psychs and other doctors can do to the thetans whatever they want. The thetans have no protection, and this has to change. Thetans can be made visible with special cameras, and it is time that the world looks in and through that.

Going back in time when the physical universe was created, none of the thetans that broke away from the static and God, wanted less than a really beautiful healthy human body. None of them wanted to be a clam, a rat, a bat, a shark, a fly, a cockroach, a virus, a salmonella or e-coli bacteria. I also don't believe anybody wanted to be a horse with somebody else sitting in his back all the time. I also doubt very much that anybody wanted to be an ape or pig. Throwing around with bananas and cococuts, rolling around in dirt, is not much of a game for thetans that were once united with God. (That many people today behave like apes or pigs has nothing to do anymore with what they wanted originally. They are degraded, and that is why they behave that rotten.)

People on this planet, e.g. the Christians, believe that God made the animals. I beg to differ. People fight about what is true: The creation or the evolution. As far as I have figured out: Both is correct. The physical universe and the human body is a creation by God, animals, their bodies are the evolution.

Are I am saying that animals are no thetans? No, I am not, but they are splitted, exploded, abused, tricked thetans that don't know anymore to pick up and act with a human body.

I think that the human bodies were completely destroyed during history on some planets, including the Earth, and that God had to recreate the human body several times all over. In times when no human bodies were available, some thetans did not stay bodyless and waited till the human bodies were recreated and enough available for them to pick those up, they took animal bodies. Some thetans got used to be cats and dogs, etc. and are also implanted to not know it anymore whatelse they could be.

I can imagine planets on which there are no animals, because no psychs working on degrading the godlike thetans in moving in a genetical line that is an aberrated version of the human bodies, the animal bodies.

I also are convinced that the psychs, the mindcontrollers trick thetans that had human bodies recently in animal bodies by calling them with their codes to which they blindly obay, are telling them on radio waves that the thetans still can hear and understand, to dive in fertilized eggs to get a new human body, but in fact, the eggs are not human but from animals. I am certain many of such experiments are being made in labs of doctors and the thetan attaches to the egg and is impanted to forget it's past as human and to accept that he is an animal and not actually a human. The result of that is a more intelligent animal but a lost human.

As far as the labs are concerned, the experiments that psychs, medical doctors and mindcontrollers make behind closed doors, away from the eyes of the general population, will make most other people very very sick to their stomach. If you ask me what it is in detail, I tell you it is every gruesome experiment you can imagine can be done to thetans, to human life and also to animals.

It can be done and is also done the other way around. Psychs taking the thetans that were in animal bodies since a very long time, behaved just like them, have no working conscience anymore, no human compassion, no feeling for ethic, and all intelligence lost by being animals for so long on the time track and help them to human bodies. Those must be the worst criminals on the planet and you understand now why they are so bad and do things to humans that others would not do.

Animals are different in nature as everyone knows. There are the friendly and cute, and the dangerous, even mean, animals. I am truly convinced that thetans were exploded and cut in pieces on the timetrack over and over by psychs. The remains of those disgusting psych-experiments, those thetans made smaller, started to look for bodies and they developed in animal bodies.

It also depends what kind of thetan was exploded or cut in pieces. If they did it to a friendly thetan, they got the birds, the dolphins, of they did it to psych-like thetans, in other words, if they did it to some of their own, they got the snakes, the sharks, the killer bacteria.

Can those exploded, splitted thetans be put together? I never tried it, but I sure hope so. It is time to get rid of bacteria and make rather one complete large guy out of it. Would be a relief for all of us.

Despite that so many countries have laws against some of the abuses, the psychs, suppressive medical doctors and the mindcontrollers just lough about it. After all, they are being not arrested, they run the police, the judges, the governments through ear-imaplants. They never come after them, they are the poodles of the mindcontrollers!

Foregoing is what I recall L. Ron Hubbard said. It's not new or squirrel Scientology, it's original Scientology, and you should demand the original Scientology writings from those that recorded every word Ron ever wrote or said.

We are getting close to hell, my friends, next sequel will be really hot. You will recognise the place that is called hell. Thetans on Earth must basically know where they are, otherwise they would not greet each other with: "Hell-o!"

Barbara Schwarz, March 18, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Remote Viewers find Elizabeth Smart in Tomb
Date: 18 Mar 2003 10:07:30 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303181007.4a870c55@posting.google.com>

ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e76b7c4@news2.lightlink.com>... > On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:14:41 +0100, Tilman Hausherr
> <tilman@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:
>
> > On 17 Mar 2003 09:58:02 -0800, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> > (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote in
> > <a6bc00a0.0303170958.6158d045@posting.google.com>:
>
> >> "Emmanuel", David Brian Mitchell, his wife Wanda and Elizabeth Smart
> >> lived in October 2002 in the basement underneath my apartment. I
> >> haven't seen them, I just found out now by the media. Does anybody of
> >> you know the motivation of Mitchell, who was looking for 8 wives, was
> >> to move directly under my(!) apartment?
> >>
> >> Barbara Schwarz
>
> > Maybe you were a chosen one, Barbara.
>
> Seems to me she would have been a perfect wife for the kidnapper,
> mentally speaking. But the kidnapper apparently likes his wives 40
> years younger.
>
> > Tilman
>
> ---
> "I want to do what little I can to make my country truly free,
> to broaden the intellectual horizon of our people, to destroy the
> prejudices born of ignorance and fear, to do away with the blind
> worship of the ignoble past, with the idea that all the great and
> good are dead, that the living are totally depraved, that all
> pleasures are sins, that sighs and groans are alone pleasing to
> God, that thought is dangerous, that intellectual courage is a
> crime, that cowardice is a virtue, that a certain belief is
> necessary to secure salvation, that to carry a cross in this world
> will give us a palm in the next, and that we must allow some priest
> to be the pilot of our souls." --- Robery Green Ingersoll

Not really, Tilly, his first wife, Wanda Barzee is quite older as Brian David Mitchell. He is a disgusting criminal. I briefly had the sensation that Elizabeth would be in my apartment house when all the world was looking for that girl, but I had really nothing to go on. I had no evidence at all, just a feeling.

I did not see them in the house while they were living underneath my apartment, and I also did not hear them. But I smelled more cooking comming from below than I smelled usually. I would have recognized Elizabeth also under her veil, and I would have called the authorities.

Mitchell's father said on TV that his son took Elizabeth to get attention from the world. I think so too. I don't think that he is religious at all, and I also don't think that he is crazy. I saw him in town a few times. But I never saw the women. He was panhandling. I found it creepy that he was following me around with his eyes. He knew exactly what he was doing, he did not look crazy rather calculating.

The German Nazi secret service put the guy up to everything he did, including to move in the basement apartment underneath mine. I trust there was a plan to attach L. Ron Hubbard's kidnapped daughter to his "movement", despite that this is so ridiculous. I never would follow a kidnapper, I hate cult leaders, and I by no way are submissive and obidient.

Being one of eight wives of a criminal that has no home and no income but a lousy beard that hangs in the soup and in the wives faces and may suffocate them, oh, that is so "tempting"!

And by the way, Zinji, Mitchell is everything that Marty Rathbun isn't. They could be no more different men. Mitchell is a criminal, Marty is the perfect human being, in other words, a real God.

However, you are right on one point, that basement apartment is indeed close to the laundry room. I really should start to count my linnens, and Mitchell better took not those that belonged to me. I can't stand the idea of dirty guys in my laundry.

All of you just let me make a statement here: Attention, all you cult leaders and wannabe cult leaders and their mindcontrollers and case officers, don't close in on me. I will never follow any of you.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 63: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 19 Mar 2003 10:32:06 -0800
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0303191032.2699d9e6@posting.google.com>

David Shy posted that donkey legs feel bored by that series of mine. Dave, I don't post that series for donkeys, but rather for humans. I don't care much for what donkeys think. Donkeys are an international symbol for stupidity. (I always was wondering what the Democrats were thinking adopting a donkey as their symbol.) Anyway, this series is mainly posted for those that had to suffer any injustice by being wrongfully accused by Rosemarie Bretschneider (RB) and others, but also should shed some light on criminal activities of those that work for the German government or psychs and on the illegal infiltration of Scientology.

I received some more letters from RB. I go through them step by step.

She wrote that a Hannes Neumeier "really wanted to help me." Fact is: I don't know that guy and why did he want to help me. What kind of help? I did not want any. I got too much painful "help" already from the Scientology attackers. Why can't certain people just leave me alone? Does anybody know that guy?

RB had contact in 1984/85 with German attorney von Gienanth because of me. She wrote me that he would be a liar. I don't know yet why she thinks so, but will ask her to explain.

RB wrote that she suspected Scientology attacker Friedrich Wilhelm Haack (who died of cancer) and former Munich KVR director, and later Bavarian Staatssekretaer, Peter Gauweiler to be Freemason and members of Freemason lodge, that they plotted in this lodge to attack me, the President of the German Scientology org. She wrote that she saw Gauweiler in a Freemason outfit once. (A Scientologist in Munich made some research on Haack and told me that they found that he had ties to a Freemason lodge that is called "The Black Rose".) What a bunch of hyprocrites. They are attacking Scientology, but are themselves members in something that I would call a cult.

RB wrote that a partner in attorney von Gienanth's lawfirm told her in 1984, that I can be put under guardianship by the German auhorities in just one day and despite that I am of age. (All he knew is that I did not return RB's calls from Scientology Int. That already qualifies in Germany to be put under guardianship. I would have returned her calls to prevent any crazy actions by her and the German authorities, but the infiltrated Special Unit in L.A. deliberately did not tell me of those calls to help set up the guardianship for me.)

With the information, that I can be put very easily under a guardianship, RB run to judge Schaefer in Munich. He was recommended to her by the Munich Amtsgericht. She wrote, he was very willing to put me under guardianship, (without even knowing me or having seen me) but that he had contact with Haack and Gauweiler, and they were concerned that Gauweiler's actions (having blackmailed me) could backfire on him.

RB wrote that she met Easter 1984 Friedrich Wilhelm Haack. (He attacked L. Ron Hubbard already in 1952 before Dianetics was published and before any SCN org was existing. He attacked him because he was hired by the German Nazi secret service to do so, because he knew that Ron was President Eisenhowers son. I am Ron's by Germans kidnapped daughter. Haack knew that also.)

He told RB about deprogramming. (What a disgusting pig that man was! I had to suffer the consequences of this criminal inhuman activity called "deprogramming", because Haack recommended it to RB. He knew how fanatically she was, and that she would do anything to force me to become a Lutheran.) He also lied to that the Special Unit would be a Concentration Camp to make her act even more crazy to go after me with all means possible. He told her that deprogrammers in USA would do the job for 30.000 either Dollars or German Marks. (She could not recall that anymore.)

After I had returned from L.A. in 1984, RB wanted to cut off parts of my hair for a "scientifical analysis". She came with a pair of big scissors after me. This is the kind of person that the Scientology attackers make out of people like RB with their campaigns against L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. Creepy monsters. Can anybody blame me that I left RB's home?

RB wrote that Ellen Daniel Johns was sent 1984 by Scientology International to Munich org to handle me, and that she tortured me in the Munich org and gave me orders to handle RB by being mean to her. Fact is: I don't remember having met her ever. She did not torture me in Munich or elsewhere. She did not give me any orders, and I was never mean to RB. I just told her over and over to leave me alone and get a life of her own. The mission of the Scientology infiltrators was to kick me out of Scientology. That was fullfilled in May 1984 immediately after Ron was murdered. After I was kicked out, I was out of the SCN world in their eyes.

RB wrote that Scientologists stole my diamond ring and my silver spoons. Fact is: I sold them in Munich pawn shops, because I needed money to flee from Germany. I got 400 German Marks for the diamond ring and only 70 Marks for the spoons. (The last pawn shop defrauded me. The spoons were worth a lot more.) No Scientologists took the ring or the spoons.

She wrote that I was a "niacin-addict" in 1984, that I suffered from "niacin withdrawal". Fact is: Niacin is a vitamin. I just took it while I was on the purification rundown for three weeks in Munich, long before I went to L.A., and that was it. How can somebody become an addict by taking a vitamin? It's completely crazy. Niacin is in many foods. If it would make addictive much of naturally grown food would make us also addictive. I was not addicted, and I had no withdrawal.

She reminded me that she called in 1984 Dr. Daunderer, a doctor that is specialized to de-toxify people. He came with his daughter and thought I am full with poison. He was called to check on my "withdrawals" and "blood circulation problems". I told him I don't have any and that RB is making that up. He agreed and warned me that she plans to put me in an institution.

She wrote that Helmuth Bloebaum ordered me to Copenhagen in 1984, so that I can be tortured there. Fact is: Helmuth did not order me. He did not know what I did in detail. I did not tell him that I plan to leave Germany. I left Munich because RB was so irrational, so scary, after having met Scientology attackers and the German government. They made her crazier than she would have been without their hate campaign against L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. She woke me up at nights to to "deprogram me" from Scientology, she run with a pair of scissors after me, she had contact with criminal people as Haack and others, and a doctor that came to our home told me that she planned to get me in an institution. In other words: There was no reason for Helmuth to order me anywhere. I run on my own as fast as I could.

She wrote that Helmuth Bloebaum, Juerg Stettler and the SCN lawyers Wunderlich and Deinlein gave the okay and the signatures to "destroy Scientology in Europe", and that I was blamed by SCN Int on what they did behind my back. Fact is: As far as the attorneys and Juerg Stettler is concerned, I would be not surprised about anything. She is however right that I did not sign anything that would have stopped distribution of Scientology. She is also right that I was wrongfully blamed by SCN Int (criminal infiltrators) on actions I have not participated in.

Read more in the next installment.

Barbara Schwarz, April 7, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 73: Barbara Schwarz reveals schocking news!
Date: 10 Apr 2003 10:45:48 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304100945.6e9d16a0@posting.google.com>

ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e94f753@news2.lightlink.com>... > On 31 Mar 2003 11:00:47 -0800, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:
>
> > I noticed that you have a real love-hate relationship with me, Dave.
>
> "Hate?" That emotion is foreign to me: I've never experienced it.
>
> As for "Love," you have mistaken sympathy and compassion for love.
>
> A few months ago I wrote in a.r.s. stating that I would no longer
> reply to your articles. I have broken this pact with myself because
> you are too hard to resist. Frankly, you fascinate me: I care about
> your health and well-being.

Get a grip on it, Dave.

I am induced to care about you via the > same socialization mechanisms that compell me to leave food out for
> mice and wild birds: I'm big and strong and therefore feel it is my
> duty as a citizen of Earth to help out the planet's life forms. This
> is not "love:" it is empathy for those less fortunate than I---
> something Scientology Inc. claims to support but does not actually
> practice. You will not find empathy in Scientology: you do find it, in
> vast amounts, among critics of Scientology Inc.

Yeah, sure, I know how good those people are. I remember the Scientology-attackers locking me up against my will, trying to force their will upon me. The scars on my hands, that I suffered from the attempt to escape, still hurt often enough. Can you leave some ointment against those pains on your porch for me? P.S. You should not feed mice. That is really bad for your neighborhood, don't you know that they can carry diseases?

> > You have to understand the following: There are conspiracies
> > within the world conspiracy. Mindcontrollers, psychs, hate also
> > themselves. They don't agree often. They only agree that people
> > should be enslaved and controlled and killed. But the political
> > systems to get there are not always the same.
>
> The extent of the world-wide conspiracy you posit is all-encompassing.
> Your "evidence" of this conspiracy is the lack of evidence: the
> conspirators are so well organized and powerful, they have erased all
> the evidence.
>
> Where is the *EVIDENCE* that supports your hypothesis?

Cut me some slack, will you? This world-wide conspiracy is at it so long. And you ask me to bring them down within a few days. I am working on it, so be a bit patient, alright?

> > Get this: There is a large group of very suppressive people. They are
> > overwhellmingly German psychs. They must control the world, otherwise
> > they can't rest. They are insane, have persecution mania. They plot to
> > rule secretly the world, before somebody comes and rules them.
> > Understood?
>
> And your *EVIDENCE* for this is, what?

It's comming, Dave, just stay tuned. In meantime play with the bird and the mice to get not bored. >
> > They thought of how to control people. A part of them thought that
> > Communism would do it, the others thought that people rather should be
> > run by dictators through nationalism.
>
> Actually, patriotism has, almost universally, been vastly more
> effective in controlling people.

I don't agree. I think the mindcontrollers are most effective to control people, because they mold the minds of people, the way they want them to think.

>
> > They ordered Marx and Engels, two Germans as you know, to write the
> > Communist manifesto, and to lock people up, to implement Communism in
> > Russia.
>
> Communism lasted one month in the Soviet Union: August 1917. It has
> not been tried in any country, and certainly not in the Soviet Union,
> since then. Communism in any form (be it nation-wide or in tiny
> communes) can only last two or three months before self-destruction
> occurs: this is because human nature is fundamentally opposed to
> Communism. In the Soviet Union, post-revolution Communism was
> supplanted with Leninism, and then later by Stalinism. Even if Trotsky
> had not been "expelled" (and later assasinated), Communism would not
> have existed in the Soviet Union longer than the month that it did.

You are saying that the many years of Communism was actually post-Communism? It's an interesting way to look at it. I agree that human nature is fundamentally opposed to Communism. But fact is, the Soviet Union was a communistic country. The majority of the Russian people apparently did not want Communism, so who kept the suppressive system alive if not the German mindcontrollers and psychs? Communism existed longer in the Soviet Union than one months, because the Germans secretly made it to last. >
> > But there were also those German psychs that want that the
> > Germans are hailed as the victors, the greatest beings ever that lived
> > on the earth. They created the Nazis and the German supremacy. They
> > put Hitler on post and run him.
>
> And here you still show your racism. Hubbard wrote that psychiatrists
> are Druids (i.e., Keltoi), not Teutonic (German).

Saying that I suffer from racism is plain drunk by you. You know that I posted so often that Scientology is infiltrated, that L. Ron Hubbard's writings were altered. It's infiltrated by the German secret sevice and their international agents. They of course took out that he said they are Teutonic and twisted it to blame others. >
> > Some of the mindcontrollers attacked the other mindcontroller system,
> > by having the Nazis attack the Communists. It doesn't matter how many
> > thousands of evem millions of people are being killed, it is not them
> > who die in the revolts, or wars, or terror acts. The mindcontrollers,
> > the psychs that run both systems and had them at the end fight against
> > them are so disturbed that they rather see that as kind of video game.
>
> Where is the *EVIDENCE* for this claim?

Again, they are at it for centuries, Dave. You want me to bring that huge moster down in a brief time. It will happen down the road. However, if you look at history with the suspicion that a force behind it made others clash, you will surprised what you will find. A German proverb says: "Wenn sich zwei streiten, freut sich der Dritte." Which means, if two are fighting, the thrid one is enjoying it. And this is what they have done all through history. >
> > To me it looked as if Janet Reno rather worked for Fidel Castro. Did
> > her actions look like war with Cuba to you?
>
> No. But then Reno appears, in my opinion, to be prone to violence for
> the sake of violence. (I.e., mentally ill.) What has that to do with
> Castro?

You brought Cuba up, not me. You posted that America is Anti-Cuba, and I posted, that I could not see that in Reno. She is quite a babe, isn't she? Wouldn't that be a mouse you want to feed at your door step? I was actually waiting to see Fidel and Janet going to get married, they seemed so in love.

>
> The United States is still at war with Cuba, and has been nearly all
> of my life. How does that in any way benefit the Nazi mind
> controllers?

The main targets of the Nazis are Jews and Americans. Having a communistic country right next to the USA, with eventual bombs going down on the USA is what the Nazi mindcontrollers really would like to see happen. >
> > The United States is also infiltrated and secretly run by the German
> > mindcontroller system.
>
> It's called "Christian Fundamentalism."
The German mindcontroller system is everywhere, Dave, they run anything and anybody. If you would study the German mind, you would come to the conclusion that those people are so fanatically, that they don't want anything come in between their rulership and secret world control. That is why they have invaded everything and also almost everybody, but most people don't know who has the overall control over them through the ear implants.

> > The relation between the socalled free world
> > and communism is the same. Both are runned by the same source, but
> > they have members that don't know what would work better.
>
> ASnd all this vast, unimaginable effort is motivated by.... (please
> fill in the blank). *WHY* should the "German Nazis" wish to control
> the world? Because they are insane? How is that a valid answer?

Insanity is the answer. They are insane! They are power hungry, driven by that they have to control, no matter what. The German mindcontrollers existed long before the 3rd Reich, but they showed their true color very much so during the 3rd Reich. You have studied what the Nazi's did, haven't you? So, what makes you think that they were not already at it before the 3rd Reich and not again after it's official defeat? >
> > In communism they noticed their own agents wanting more material
> > things, so communism don't work for long, people want to overthrow it,
> > because don't like to be that poor. And it also never worked, because
> > some had always more.
>
> Ergo it wasn't Communism.
>
> > Capitalism can keep people also in line.
>
> Very true. Some people have argued that Capitalism can be worse than
> slavery in that slaves were at least treated as property and somewhat
> cared for by their "owners." Capitalism, on the other hand, has a much
> larger labor pool than is needed, so Capitalists need not care for
> members of that labor pool. The Nike tennis shoe corporation, paying
> Asian children and women fifty cents a day to make shoes, is an
> example.

That's right. It is a German world, that is why no system is sane. You find the abuses everywhere, because the midncontrollers run every system secretly. I also think that many jobs are sort of slavery, that is why I want a completely different world. But I would not stop anybody who wants to have a honest business and is producing products that are truly wanted and needed. >
> > There
> > are so many things that people want to buy, that they are so much in
> > money making, that they often forget to spend some time to think where
> > they are headed. However, free enterprise is a lot better than
> > communism.
>
> No doubt. Communism will never work because humans by nature are
> selfish: it's in the DNA.

It's in the ears, Dave, not in the DNA. The mindcontrollers channel it to the people audible or subconsiously. They bring out the worst in people.

> > The overall control is by the same mindcontroller network. They have
> > the code of everyone and can talk right in the mind of the people,
> > audibile and subconciously, and the people think it is his usual case
> > officer, who is talking. They can talk in the minds of the leaders of
> > the free world and also in the minds of the enemies of the free world.
>
> And the evidence for this is?

Would be nice if some courageous folks would come forward, telling the world that I am correct, wouldn't it? You are David, but I feel like David, with a slingshot, trying to hit the beast between the eyes. >
> > In the middle are those people that have not thought things thru. They
> > believe their case officers which say, that not everybody is run
> > through the same source. That is why they spy on each other. It's
> > nothing else than a big spectacle.
>
> And the evidence for this is?

In some time, there will be evidence hereto.

> > You bet, the French are runned by them, just like anybody else.
>
> Now *THAT* I can believe! (Smile!) I'll believe damn near anything
> about the French.
>
> [Just kidding: many of the world's finest poets, philosophers,
> artists, and humanitarians have been and are French.]

Haven't seen anyone of those French people saving the world yet. They seem rather dull and bloodless to me. I doubt in meantime that the French kiss is actually French.

>
> > Did
> > you read Operation Paperclip, as to how the Nazi's sneaked in the USA?
>
> "Sneaked" into the USA wearing chains and against their wills.

Nope, came in as praised scientists, pampered by an U.S. government that was already secretly infiltrated by the German secret service. Really, read about Operation Paperclip. It's not a conspiracy theory, it is really what has happened. The reason why the Germans put their scientists and Nazis into the USA was for two reasons: One, to mislead the American science, to block a real progress, and two, to claim that American would be nothing without the Germans.

>
> > And don't believe that they helped the USA. I know they rather did
> > their work here to mislead, to waste tax payers money, but that they
> > still can claim that it was them, that made the USA great, not the
> > Americans.
>
> Are you saying that von Braun didn't help the American jet and rocket
> industries?

Could have done any other scientist also. I bet if I would study his work in detail, I would find corruption and sabotage everywhere. Some rockets fell out of the sky, didn't they?

>
> > The USA has those weapons because they don't know that one source is
> > running all of the world. They run everybody by having access to their
> > ear implants, but the agents usually don't know it, they think it is
> > the normal guy that runs them. They might think that they work for a
> > secret service that is not a Nazi intelligence service but others do
> > know it. Depends how much time you spent thinking and puzzling things
> > together.
>
> Convcersely, given that humans find patterns where they do not exist,
> perhaps all of this is just your imagination.

No, no imagination. See, I lived over there. I was able to study German behavior. I also came a lot around, saw a lot of other nations, but there is something about the Germans, esp. the Bavarians that makes my blood chill. It is as if they would be a completely different species.

> > The USA is secretly infiltrated. That explains also the war mess. I
> > would not want to fight a war with an by the enemy infiltrated
> > militrary.
>
> I agree with you that the USA has been "infiltrated," but it wasn't
> sectretly and it wasn't by German Nazis.

The Germans run all other nations too. They run the Russian, the Turkish, the rest-of-world-spies, they have the overall control about each one of them. >
> > The world conspiracy, the German Nazi secret service, the Bavarian
> > Illuminati are very very sneaky.
>
> Did you know that "the Illuminati" doesn't actually exist?

Probably. But what I know for sure is that the German Nazi secret service exist and they are after me. Guess why?

> There is no subject, and can be none, concerning which
> any human being is under any obligation to believe without
> evidence.

But in case where crystal clear evidence is still missing, Dave, there is nothing wrong with using common sense and looking very detailed at the things that are already clearly visible.

Barbara Schwarz

P.S. Don't forget to put the food out on your porch for me. Persecuted conspiracy theorists on the run are often hungry.

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 16: Barbara Schwarz about OT 3 and God. Read it, and you will be never the same!
Date: 10 Apr 2003 09:29:24 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304100829.40121340@posting.google.com>

Hellians basically know that the Fountain of Youth is not a pill or plastic sugery. That is why they call is "Fountain of Youth" and not "Prozac of Youth", or "Tuck of Youth".

Distilled water is of course better than germ contaminated water, but I know it is not good enough to keep you young and healthy. It comes in germy recycled plastic bottles, and it still has chemicals and might be radioactive.

The solution is really to make your own water from scratch, if you don't want to die in average of 75 years. I know there are some people that make it over a hundred, but this kind of "hanging in there" is not what I am talking about. I am speaking of completely stopping the clock on aging. From what I know about the village, whose name I recall with Chattanooga (not the town in Tennessee), it is really possible and no science fiction. I swear to God, I have been there.

The environmentally protected, closed village shouldn't be too small, otherwise Hellians would feel trapped and would want to venture out on the hellish surance more often as needed. The village, that I remember, had the square measure of probably Monaco, and trust me, folks, you don't feel cramped in a place that size. You could not enter the village, except through the front entrance, which made it secure.

Everyone of the residents can of course leave the village when he choose, but one guarded entrance is a good idea. That keeps those out that don't come in peace, those that just want to re-implement hell in paradise, those that plant roaches, rats, germs, want to poison the fountain, kidnap children or want to kill other residents.

The Hellian money is very germ contaminated, as you know, it's better to keep it out of the village and to pay without cash.

If you are smart, you ban also cigarettes and alcohol in your village, because it's clearly in the way of immortality and eternal youth, and it really stinks.

I consider it suppressive to charge a lot of money for education. I think it is a hellish plan to keep people from an education, by making it so expensive. And look what uni's teach: not about what is really important, e.g. spiritual and physical survival, ethics, longevity, immortality, security, a much better way of living for all. But they teach about how to give electroschocks and administer drugs that make dependent or make the Hellians otherwise sick. Alright, that is of course not all they teach, but the most important subjects are pretty much ignored, or they are in such baby shoes that you just can shake your head about that.

That they ask for so much college tuition but do not really deliver the goods is rotten. I tell you all I know about the world, I mean hell, have you seen me charing anybody? No, of course not, because money is not what I want, I want a transformed hell.

School classes are still held uneconomically by teachers talking to the students. Anyone has a different speed in learning. While some of the Hellians are bored to hell, the others don't grasp it quick enough. Some are just physically in school, but in thoughts they are elsewhere. No wonder they think they need a case officer helping them cheat through school. The system sucks and makes cheaters, where actually nobody would have to cheat through school.

If the intellectual material of the classes is written up in precise steps, exactly, just as L. Ron Hubbard had established that in Scientology, any student can study in his own pace, anyone will be successful and happy. Some of the individual students might stream ahead, some take the slower route, but nobody is left behind, and both kind of students know the subjects at the end really.

It doesn't matter how long Hellians need to get through it. Time is nothing, as they can live forever, if nobody kills them with something, as preferable by mindcontrollers, with remote controlled germs. (Once again, if you doubt that remote controlled germs can do any job, ask the Japanese, they know a lot about it.) The only important thing is that the students at the very end indeed know the subjects cold. I rather have somebody operating on me who studied that way, instead a guy that cheated through school, with help of a case officer, channelling through the ear implant of the student what to say and write in the examination. Life doesn't need to be that hard and cheating is not necessary. Cheating also makes less proud, so try to create ways of living where nobody feels tempted to cheat.

The teachers are mainly there to check the examinations. This would be not only more economical, it would be also more just to the students.

I remember, that I often slipped away with my attention in school, esp. when the teacher was a bore, and who hasn't met such a guy. I know that psychs call slipping away with thoughts an illness, as "attention deficit disorder" and prescribe the Hellian kids drugs with serious side effects. They don't call boring teachers boring. They think that with pills the student doesn't find the boring teacher so boring anymore.

But there is a bit more to it than a boring teacher. Mindcontrollers call in the minds of students subconciously to make their attention slip away, but you don't cure that with pills the student has to swallow, you jump on the insane system that invades secretly everyone's minds.

On the other side, it is also normal to slip away with your thoughts sometimes in class or during a lecture. Let's say, the teacher explains something in history, it would be unnormal not to create your own pictures hereto and follow them. While being busy to imagine, the teacher has already moved on to another subject and the student missed it.

E.g., the teacher speaks about old European castles, how cold they were... And here the student leaves the class spiritually. He walks in thoughts through the castle, looks for the torture chamber, examines the instruments, thinks would be nice to try one of the instruments out on his teacher, searches for secret passways, jumps in armour, end up in the kitchen, opens all drawers, finds some skeletons, and suddenly the teacher calls on the student to tell the chemical formula of hydrochlorine acid to the class. The student is completely confused, asks what that has to do with the castles, and finds out from the laughter of the other students that they had moved on to another subject a half an hour ago, and everything the teacher said, was missed by the particular student. (Although he has a heck of a time in that old castle, something that the others missed.)

If the subjects to be learned and understood are explained step by step in written, but also visual and audible material, on checksheets, the student just can go back to where he had left when he is done with exploring his own ideas. In clear text that means: No hole in the education!

The written, audible and visible material, the checksheets should be compiled by the most qualified people, that would be normally those in the Department of Education. (I have not found this kind of intelligent life in there yet, but if you do, let me know.)

Depending from what the individual teacher or professor might tell to the students is just not good enough. The teacher or professor might have misunderstandings himself on certain subjects, after all, he was educated in the same "cheat-through-because-who-can-follow-that-all-in-a-rush-system". Teachers might fail to explain things properly, and in those checksheets, and the written material, that comes with it, everything must be explained just perfectly.

For example, my teachers never mentioned the USA. They spoke about Germany and went right to the Soviet Union. According to my German education, I would not even know of the existance of the United States. What a luck that I got my own education outside of the schools, otherwise I would have never discovered America, never would have come here. Can you imagine what a loss that would be for the United States and the rest of the world?

There will be another installment in this series, but it might take a while. I have some other important things to do in meantime.

Barbara Schwarz, April 10, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: I got my head examined!
Date: 12 Apr 2003 09:19:58 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304120819.7f0cdb0e@posting.google.com>

ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e9791ae$1@news2.lightlink.com>... > Two weeks ago, before I went on a ten-day-long backpacking trip at
> Death Valley, I had my head examined. The resukts are in today:
> nothing amiss, and more to the point: NO EAR IMPLANT(S)! Some how or
> other the NaziCommieMarxistCapitalistHumanistIlluminati overlords seem
> to have missed me. An oversight I'm sure they will correct as soon as
> my x-rays are forwarded to The Appropreate Ministry (fnord) by my
> doctors.
>
> Which makes me wonder.... no ear implant(s), and yet I still
> acknowledge the fact that Hubbard was a sociopathic monster.
>
> ---
> There is no subject, and can be none, concerning which
> any human being is under any obligation to believe without
> evidence.

Who in the world would go to Death Valley for a head-examination?

Of course, the doctors will not find anything in the ears of Dave Shy, since they have ear implants too and they will do all to cover it up.

I bet that if I would insert a really sensitive metal detector in Dave's dirty ears, we would hear that thing going off in one ear drum splitting alarm.

The microchips are too tiny to be seen on your usual x-rays, but I bet there exist cameras that would make them visible.

The mindcontrollers did not miss Dave. They use him just like they use others. And as dumber people are, as more they cover the system up instead of questioning it.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Barbara Schwarz *NOT* a troll? I wonder!
Date: 14 Apr 2003 10:01:49 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304140901.57667cf6@posting.google.com>

ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e98768e@news2.lightlink.com>... > I wrote:
>
> >>> How can anyone read the above and not be convinced that "Barbara
> >>> Schwarz" isn't a troll?
>
> barb replied:
>
> > > Well...because she reads like a delusional person to me. I bet she is
> > > utterly sincere in the wacky shit she's been postulating about LRH
> > > history, Nazi Ear Implants (tm) etc. Truly, I don't think a sane person
> > > could pull this off as consistantly as she's been doing. Her posts have
> > > a genuine reek of madness about them. Compare her writing to Dorian.
> > > Dorian comes off as a guy who's trying hard, but he still falls short of
> > > true insanity. Poor Babsie, on the other hand, seems to have mentally
> > > taken a long walk off a short pier, and probably paid through the nose
> > > for the privilege.
>
> On 29 Mar 2003 10:00:45 -0800, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> (BarbaraSchwarz) followed up:
>
> > Barbara Graham sounds like the jealous, craving for attention,
>
> Isn't that *YOUR* role here?
>
> > "chaplain" of a psych devil cult to me.
>
> Hubbard said psychiatrists were mebers of the Druid cult, not devil
> cult. Why don't you keep up with Hubbard?
>
> > Her Bavarian case officers
> > bring out the worst in that woman.
>
> But then, so do I.... bring out the worse in women, that is. It's a
> gift.
>
> > If they run out of arguments, they
> > just declare others insane and use Barb Graham's dirty ears as radio
> > and her crippled fingers to get it typed and posted.
>
> Chaplain Barb is by far the single most agressively ANTI-controlled
> individual I've ever met on this planet (and three other planets in
> this sector), and I've meet a shitload of people in my 30+ years of
> life.
>
> By the way: if everyone you meet suggests to you that you appear to be
> mentally ill, shouldn't that be cause for your concern?
>
> > Somebody approached her recently with "young lady". People, note that:
>
> Well, I tried "Mistress Barb" a few times but got my ass kicked for
> it. What would you have people call her? "Ms. Prime Minister?" "Ms.
> President?" "Galactix Overlord?"
>
> > Barb Graham isn't young and she ain't a lady either, as you can read
> > above. She appears to be raised in a pigstable.
>
> "Pigstable?"
>
> > Her anger and hatred [....]
>
> I.e., her amusement....
>
> > [....] comes because so many ignored her first posting,
>
> How do you know anyone ignored her article?
>
> > that you all should not respond to what I post.
>
> The vast majority probably have you filtered out: they don't even
> download your cartoon-like claims into their newsgroup readers.
>
> > Many of you choose not to do that, that is why she is so bitter.
>
> "Bitter?" Barb?! ROTFL! (Sorry if I frightened your library bats with
> my laughter.)
>
> > I don't mind, folks, if you give her more attention than me.
>
> Actually, yes, you do "mind."
>
> > I know she is not really fun,
>
> Could have fooled me!
>
> > but I don't want her doing anything stupid in
> > that very jealous state of mind that she is in.
>
> "Jealous?" Of you?! Be wa hahahaha hahahaha ha! ha! ha ha ha hahahah!
> Damn, I wet meself.......
>
> > So, please, ignore me
> > and give all the attention that you may spare to Barb Graham, who
> > probably hysterically cries in her pillow every night because so many
> > are occupied with me instead of her.
>
> This is good stuff. You should write for "Friends" or something (or
> whatever sit-com is on the vacuum tube these days).
>
> > Can't you see, can't you hear, the screams of that poor woman?
>
> Why are you projecting?
>
> > Her Bavarian illuminati case officer is all she has.
>
> Whay about her stable of gigolos, her four Swiss bank accounts, and
> weekends at Piura?
>
> > And as you know, they contact their agents once and
> > never show up in person again, to hug and console. And that is what
> > that Barb Graham needs, amongst better a character and better manners.
>
> Wouldn't an ear implant provide such things?
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
>
> ---
> "The microchips are too tiny to be seen on your usual x-rays, but I bet
> there exist cameras that would make them visible. The mindcontrollers
> did not miss Dave. They use him just like they use others. And as dumber
> people are, as more they cover the system up instead of questioning it."
> --- Barbara Schwarz

So, Barb Graham needs Dave Shy to defend her. Interesting, can't she do it alone? You of course have a right to your own opinion about that primitive, hostile and unprofessional woman, and as you are so much like her, you come perfectly along. It's just like in nature. Slimy snakes pair with snakes.

Is that what Barb Graham thinks about herself? Being a Prime Minister, the President, or a Galactic Overlord? And that woman has the guts to declare others insane?

Mindcontrollers don't better the characters of people though ear implants. You and Barb Graham and also several others are living proof of it.

Dave Shy, get another hobby in your life than me. You can't handle me to become as you want me to. Neither can your mindcontroller or any mindcontroller. They are completely helpless. I am just no robot like Barb Graham, or you, or anybody like your kind.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Barbara Schwarz *NOT* a troll? I wonder!
Date: 16 Apr 2003 10:04:26 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304160904.1ef77edc@posting.google.com>

barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3E9C6FD5.5040606@cox.net>... > BarbaraSchwarz wrote:
> > barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3E9B02A3.8010206@cox.net>...
> >
> >>BarbaraSchwarz wrote:
> >>
> >>>ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e98768e@news2.lightlink.com>...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>How can anyone read the above and not be convinced that "Barbara
> >>>>>>>Schwarz" isn't a troll?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>barb replied:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Well...because she reads like a delusional person to me. I bet she is
> >>>>>>utterly sincere in the wacky shit she's been postulating about LRH
> >>>>>>history, Nazi Ear Implants (tm) etc. Truly, I don't think a sane person
> >>>>>>could pull this off as consistantly as she's been doing. Her posts have
> >>>>>>a genuine reek of madness about them. Compare her writing to Dorian.
> >>>>>>Dorian comes off as a guy who's trying hard, but he still falls short of
> >>>>>>true insanity. Poor Babsie, on the other hand, seems to have mentally
> >>>>>>taken a long walk off a short pier, and probably paid through the nose
> >>>>>>for the privilege.
> >>>>>
> >>>>On 29 Mar 2003 10:00:45 -0800, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> >>>>(BarbaraSchwarz) followed up:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Barbara Graham sounds like the jealous, craving for attention,
> >>>>
> >>>>Isn't that *YOUR* role here?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"chaplain" of a psych devil cult to me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hubbard said psychiatrists were mebers of the Druid cult, not devil
> >>>>cult. Why don't you keep up with Hubbard?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Her Bavarian case officers
> >>>>>bring out the worst in that woman.
> >>>>
> >>>>But then, so do I.... bring out the worse in women, that is. It's a
> >>>>gift.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>If they run out of arguments, they
> >>>>>just declare others insane and use Barb Graham's dirty ears as radio
> >>>>>and her crippled fingers to get it typed and posted.
> >>>>
> >>>>Chaplain Barb is by far the single most agressively ANTI-controlled
> >>>>individual I've ever met on this planet (and three other planets in
> >>>>this sector), and I've meet a shitload of people in my 30+ years of
> >>>>life.
> >>>>
> >>>>By the way: if everyone you meet suggests to you that you appear to be
> >>>>mentally ill, shouldn't that be cause for your concern?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Somebody approached her recently with "young lady". People, note that:
> >>>>
> >>>>Well, I tried "Mistress Barb" a few times but got my ass kicked for
> >>>>it. What would you have people call her? "Ms. Prime Minister?" "Ms.
> >>>>President?" "Galactix Overlord?"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Barb Graham isn't young and she ain't a lady either, as you can read
> >>>>>above. She appears to be raised in a pigstable.
> >>>>
> >>>>"Pigstable?"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Her anger and hatred [....]
> >>>>
> >>>>I.e., her amusement....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>[....] comes because so many ignored her first posting,
> >>>>
> >>>>How do you know anyone ignored her article?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>that you all should not respond to what I post.
> >>>>
> >>>>The vast majority probably have you filtered out: they don't even
> >>>>download your cartoon-like claims into their newsgroup readers.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Many of you choose not to do that, that is why she is so bitter.
> >>>>
> >>>>"Bitter?" Barb?! ROTFL! (Sorry if I frightened your library bats with
> >>>>my laughter.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I don't mind, folks, if you give her more attention than me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Actually, yes, you do "mind."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I know she is not really fun,
> >>>>
> >>>>Could have fooled me!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>but I don't want her doing anything stupid in
> >>>>>that very jealous state of mind that she is in.
> >>>>
> >>>>"Jealous?" Of you?! Be wa hahahaha hahahaha ha! ha! ha ha ha hahahah!
> >>>>Damn, I wet meself.......
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>So, please, ignore me
> >>>>>and give all the attention that you may spare to Barb Graham, who
> >>>>>probably hysterically cries in her pillow every night because so many
> >>>>>are occupied with me instead of her.
> >>>>
> >>>>This is good stuff. You should write for "Friends" or something (or
> >>>>whatever sit-com is on the vacuum tube these days).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Can't you see, can't you hear, the screams of that poor woman?
> >>>>
> >>>>Why are you projecting?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Her Bavarian illuminati case officer is all she has.
> >>>>
> >>>>Whay about her stable of gigolos, her four Swiss bank accounts, and
> >>>>weekends at Piura?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>And as you know, they contact their agents once and
> >>>>>never show up in person again, to hug and console. And that is what
> >>>>>that Barb Graham needs, amongst better a character and better manners.
> >>>>
> >>>>Wouldn't an ear implant provide such things?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Barbara Schwarz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>---
> >>>>"The microchips are too tiny to be seen on your usual x-rays, but I bet
> >>>>there exist cameras that would make them visible. The mindcontrollers
> >>>>did not miss Dave. They use him just like they use others. And as dumber
> >>>>people are, as more they cover the system up instead of questioning it."
> >>>>--- Barbara Schwarz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>So, Barb Graham needs Dave Shy to defend her. Interesting, can't she
> >>>do it alone?
> >>>You of course have a right to your own opinion about that primitive,
> >>>hostile and unprofessional woman, and as you are so much like her, you
> >>>come perfectly along. It's just like in nature. Slimy snakes pair with
> >>>snakes.
> >>>
> >>>Is that what Barb Graham thinks about herself? Being a Prime Minister,
> >>>the President, or a Galactic Overlord? And that woman has the guts to
> >>>declare others insane?
> >>>
> >>>Mindcontrollers don't better the characters of people though ear
> >>>implants. You and Barb Graham and also several others are living proof
> >>>of it.
> >>>
> >>>Dave Shy, get another hobby in your life than me. You can't handle me
> >>>to become as you want me to. Neither can your mindcontroller or any
> >>>mindcontroller. They are completely helpless. I am just no robot like
> >>>Barb Graham, or you, or anybody like your kind.
> >>>
> >>>Barbara Schwarz
> >>
> >>But Spongebarb, you're such a fun squeaky toy to chew on! You should be
> >>on "Maniacs say the Darnest Things!"
> >>You'd be a hit. Truly.
> >>
> >>--
> >
> >
> > So, you are basically saying you are a dog, Barb Graham? Also, you are
> > supposed to be a helpful religious person, a chaplain, trying to teach
> > love and peace. How come that scorn (including your first posting that
> > you did on me) and hate is the only emotions you know?
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> Dogs aren't the only creatures which enjoy squeak toys, Spongie. How sad
> that your experience is so limited! Tsk.
> And I don't hate you. My Venn Diagram shows hatred to be a slice so
> small as to be insignificant. I do think that your pompous, know-it-all
> (while knowing very little) is mockworthy, but that isn't hate. It's
> just mockery. How amusing that you think I'm limited to "scorn and
> hate." You've already stated that you don't know me. This merely
> confirms it.
>

Let me get this straight, Barb Graham. You don't deny clearly that you aren't a a dog, but you also don't clarify why you want to chew me up.

Attention anybody in ARS: Is Barb Graham Ms. Hannibal Lecter? Is she a canibal? Did she had a husband? What happened to him? Did she cook, bake or fry him? Well, she likes smoke, so she probably smoked him. Is that the experience of biting into somebody she is talking about?

Barb Graham, you hated me from the day you heard that I posted and probably already before, despite that you never met me in person. A scornful person like you is a hater. It doesn't help you to trying to re-define what you are doing. I bet the suicide bombers also say that they don't hate, that they just try to make their point, that nothing is personal, etc.

Who made you to a "Chaplain"? A chaplain should not mock anybody, but rather preach help, assistance, love and peace. You should offer your home to people in need, you should feed them and dress them, help them to self sufficient, but what do you do? You behave like a cigarette addicted pitch bull. (Not that I ever wanted to live in your smoke filled cage.) You may have the wrinkles of Mother Theresa, but nothing of her heart.

And trust me on this one, Barb Graham: Wrinkles aren't everything! (You may thinks so, but that doesn't make you holy, it just makes you look old.)

You are completely unqualified as a chaplain, completely entirely unqualified.

As to your smoking addiction, you really should so something against it. I know of several people that successfully came away from their cigarettes on the Purification Rundown. It is not the purpose of the Purification Rundown to get you stop smoking, it's detoxification, but I know you can successfully get rid of the addiction by doing it.

Now, you have committed lots of sins, in other words, overts and withholds (O/Ws), that you have to clean up first. Your O/W write up probably would be as big as the U.S. Tax Code, if you would do it honestly, but I surely would recommend it to you.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: ShyDavid
Subject: Re: Barbara Schwarz *NOT* a troll? I wonder!
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:17:38 GMT
Message-ID: <3ea1061f@news2.lightlink.com>

On 14 Apr 2003 10:01:49 -0700, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:

> So, Barb Graham needs Dave Shy to defend her. Interesting, can't she
> do it alone?

LOL! She's already verbally kicked your ass all over USENET: no need for anyone's help, let alone mine.

> You of course have a right to your own opinion about that
> primitive, hostile and unprofessional woman, and as you are
> so much like her, you come perfectly along.

Thank you. It is indeed an honor and a complement to be told I'm like Barb.

> It's just like in nature. Slimy snakes pair with snakes.

LOL!

> Is that what Barb Graham thinks about herself? Being a Prime
> Minister, the President, or a Galactic Overlord? And that
> woman has the guts to declare others insane?

Have you any idea what "analogy" means? Or "metaphore?" I wrote:

Well, I tried "Mistress Barb" a few times but got my ass kicked for it. What would you have people call her? "Ms. Prime Minister?" "Ms. President?" "Galactix Overlord?"

Just how, pray tell, did you come to the DUBBED-IN conclusion that she thinks these things about herself? Are you stupid as well as mentally ill, or are you just pretending to be dense?

> Mindcontrollers don't better the characters of people though ear
> implants.

Do you have any *EVIDENCE* there are such things as "ear implants?" Do you have *EVIDENCE* that there are "mind controllers" running these "ear emplants?"

> You and Barb Graham and also several others are living proof
> of it.

We are living proof that we think for ourselves: you, on the other had, are running someone else's program in your head.

> Dave Shy, get another hobby in your life than me.

You sure do have a small, poor opinion of yourself, don't you?

> You can't handle me to become as you want me to.

Once again, you are DUBBING-IN. I want nothing from you; I want only good, positive things *FOR* you. Some mental health care would do for a start.

> Neither can your mindcontroller or any
> mindcontroller. They are completely helpless. I am just no robot like
> Barb Graham, or you, or anybody like your kind.

If you are not a "robot," why are you running a false, imaginary program in your head? Why are you letting that false program rule you?

> Barbara Schwarz

--- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - President Teddy Roosevelt

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Gauging the Effectiveness of Shock Therapy
Date: 14 Apr 2003 10:15:27 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304140915.10ac3a6d@posting.google.com>

barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3E989B1F.6080405@cox.net>... > BarbaraSchwarz wrote:
> > BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote in message news:<a6bc00a0.0304110808.47ad9c58@posting.google.com>...
> >
> >>ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e965ea0$1@news2.lightlink.com>...
> >>
> >>>On 10 Apr 2003 11:23:16 -0700, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com
> >>>(BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>ShyDavid wrote in message news:<3e95288b$1@news2.lightlink.com>...
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 02:16:46 -0700, Brent <bstone@kudonet.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>http://www.healthscout.com/template.asp?page=newsdetail&ap=419&id=8005595
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>I would like to read more on just how temporary the amnesia is.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>You are not so stupid[sic] to try ECT, are you, Dave?
> >>>
> >>>If I ever get to the point where I nearly starve myself again (as I
> >>>did 15 years ago), and if anti-depressant medication does not treat my
> >>>depression, then *YES* I will / would seek ECT treatment. Anyone who
> >>>does not avail oneself of the latest medical treatment for illness,
> >>>when one has the means to acquire that treatment, is a fool.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I tell you about my amnesia: parts of my memory to my childhood and my
> >>>>life as teenager is still completely buried.
> >>>
> >>>That is generally true for all adults. One's brain cannot retain a
> >>>life-time of memory---- there's not enough room. Since humans now live
> >>>longer than natural selection demarcated a mere 5,000 years ago, this
> >>>lack of memory capacity is only a recent problem with humanity.
> >>>
> >>>In fact, memory is a creative process and often (i.e., usually) does
> >>>not accurately reflect actual events.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I only got bits and pieces back.
> >>>
> >>>That is true of every adult. One cannot put twenty pounds of memory
> >>>into a fiften pound sack (to slaughter the metaphore).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The strange thing is, I am not depressed at all, just
> >>>>when I think about the electro-shocks, I am getting depressed.
> >>>
> >>>Why---- because ECT saves lives? Why should that depress you?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Barbara Schwarz
> >>>
> >>>---
> >>>There is no subject, and can be none, concerning which
> >>>any human being is under any obligation to believe without
> >>>evidence.
> >>
> >>
> >>You just don't want to get it, Dave.
> >>
> >>The solution against starvation is food, not drugs and e-shocks. And
> >>if many years from your memory are completely missing, as in my case,
> >>forcefully removed by psychs, you don't call that normal, you call it
> >>what it is: an atrocity.
> >>
> >>The brain generates more cells for any memory. What you wrote about
> >>the brain is absolutely not correct.
> >>
> >>Memory usually precisely reflect the actual events, in rare cases it
> >>doesn't. The human mind works a lot better than you want to admit.
> >>
> >>ETC doesn't save lives, it kills people. That is what is depressing.
> >>You twist everything around to cover for psychs and their despicable
> >>actions. I bet most psychs don't want to be e-shocked. They rather do
> >>that only to their "patients". They don't want their brain and mind
> >>destroyed.
> >>
> >>You should not try to advocate something so dangerous, because there
> >>are so many things out there that helps better when people are
> >>depressed than barbaric middle age style e-shocks.
> >>
> >>Barbara Schwarz
> >
> >
> >
> > People cheat through school. Just because somebody has a university
> > degree, doesn't mean, he or she is a scientist. And those kind of
> > people invented and advocate something so inhuman as electro-schocks.
> > Psychs are stuck in dark middle ages. They got their treatment ideas
> > from from German torture chambers.
> >
> > Remember the shaken baby syndrome? If it is dangerous, or even deadly,
> > to shake a baby, imaging what it might do to you brain, if that is
> > shaken, and this on top with high voltage. Just because you are no
> > child anymore, doesn't mean that it can't kill you or very badly harm
> > you.
> >
> > If you have any brain, and I am not talking to Dave Shy or some others
> > in this thread here, protect it. Don't hand it over to an electrician.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> You may well wind up being able to tell us what it's like, Babs!
> Remember the Koos of yesteryear! He can probably tell us what it's like
> by now as well...I'm sure drowning his daughter made perfect sense at
> the time. What will be your "over the top" act? Trying to prove the
> existance of Nazi ear-muffs on a Starbucks patron with a hatchet?
>
> --

Yes, I heard that Koos has killed some of his children. It was all over the web. This is what the mindcontrollers to do people; they bring out the worst in people. To them, it makes perfect sense to order their agents to kill somebody or to manipulate those people in committing terror acts, murder and other cimes. That is why I am so worried about that system. If earimplants would be just harmless toys, I never would have said a word about it.

And that is why you should not cover up that system, Dave, that makes you guilty and also makes you look desperate.

I have no case officer and no mindcontroller. There will be no "over the top" act by me ever. However, I am not sure as far as you are concerned...You are posting wild stuff, sometimes I think you could snap. Too much radio in your ears, Dave.

Barbara Schwarz

And that is why you should not cover up that system, Dave, that makes you guilty and also makes you look desperate.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: I love this place
Date: 17 Apr 2003 09:03:21 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304170803.5c92a772@posting.google.com>

jism_monkey2002@yahoo.co.uk (eric presley) wrote in message news:<dae0d1a3.0304170134.6eeaecc4@posting.google.com>... > > > In reality there are only two creatures that knowingly enter the
> > > vicinity of venomous snakes, those who want to be bitten in order to
> > > percieve a better reality, or rats who are desperate for food,
> > > desperate enough to put their life in grave danger.
> > >
> > > Knowing how to survive snake bites, whilst still being in awe of
> > > snakes, is a truly useful skill if one presents themself to be bitten.
> > >
> > > And who knows what medicinal uses will be found for snake venom in the
> > > years to come.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> >
> > You sure know a lot about snakes, Dave Most. You could open a business
> > with all kinds of remedies against snake bites to all those that enter
> > and try to leave this newsgroup. You could make a fortune, because in
> > a newsgroup, in which even the chaplain (Barb Graham) is a
> > non-religious, scornful, smoking, poison spitting rattle snake, anyone
> > will be bitten sooner or later.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> maybe you missed this bit :
>
> In reality there are only two creatures that knowingly enter the
> vicinity of venomous snakes, those who want to be bitten in order to
> percieve a better reality, or rats who are desperate for food,
> desperate enough to put their life in grave danger.
>
>
> which are you ??

None of both. I am the exterminator. Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 79: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 17 Apr 2003 10:02:40 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304170902.694b2c04@posting.google.com>

Rosemarie Bretschneider (RB) mailed me some more information:

She informed me that anti-Scientology attorney von Gienanth in Munich told her that 40 boxes with documents were removed in 1984 from the Munich org during a raid that former district attorney Juergen Keltsch ordered. Von Gienanth also said to her, that the boxes were searched for anything the German government could use against me, but that they did not find a thing. (Of course they did not find anyting, because I never ordered or did anything illegal. However, if somebody would have raided Keltsch's office, they would have found enough against that man to put him away for a very long time.)

RB mailed me a copy of a letter of the AGPF, the Aktion fuer geistige and psychische Freiheit, in Graurheindorfer Str. 15, in Bonn. Letter is dated August 30, 1984 and signed by Geschaeftsfuhrer Ingo Heinemann. (And what a Fuhrer of a dirty business he is.) He wrote that letter to the Israelische Vertretung (apparently the Embassador of Israel) in Simrockallee 2, in Bonn, on Subject: Barbara Schwarz.

Heinemann wrote, that I, Barbara Schwarz, has planned to travel shortly to Israel, but that in agreement with "my mother" (RB), I should be not allowed to enter Israel, but should be transported to Munich for "medical treatment". (RB wrote with her handwriting on that letter that Heinemann is a liar and twisted the truth.)

Heinemann continued that I am a member of Scientology, that is known to "hypnotize and condition" at least their leading members. (Typically for a German Nazi, he made that also up.)

Heinemann continued to misinform the Israeli Representative by writing that Scientology builds up a martyr-image by constantly comparing itself to the fate of the Jews during Nazi Germany. (Hey, did you folks read what I had to suffer in the hands of the German authorities and doctors in the former installments of this series? If this is not still Nazi Germany, what is it then? Taliban or Saddam's government?)

Heinemann continued lying that they would have first time evidence that Scientology makes that comparison not only for reason of publicity, but that they "conditioned" me to believe that my father is a Jew and that a present Nazi conspiracy would run against me and Scientology. (Heinemann, dieser Hornochse, sucked that all out of his criminal dirty German hands. Neither he, nor RB, nor anybody else ever had any evidence that I was "conditioned", whatever that should be. Nobody in Scientology, and nobody else ever told me that my father is Jew. I discovered step by step the truth on my very own. And it is the truth. Ron is Jewish. - And who cares in anyway what somebody's father is, an Indian, a black man, a Jew, or whatever? Since when is decent a reason to persecute a person and to track her down in a huge criminal governmental operation and to institutionalize such a person? In still existing Nazi Germany it is.)

Heinemann attached his unqualified letter of August 29, 1984, that the had written to the family court in Munich, to mislead the Israelis even more.

He closed with the sentence that I would be mentally ill and suicidal. He concealed that he never in his life had a conversation with me, and that he based his information only on the information that the very fanatical and mindcontrolled RB presented to him. Heinemann is completely unprofessional. (Get this straight: If I would have been suicidal, I would have not tried to fly to Israel to work in a Kibuz. I would have rather jumped out of the window, would have gotten myself a gun, or stabbed myself to death. Or I would have returned to Germany to face the German authorities, to let them do to me what they want. That would have been suicide.)

RB says today, that Heinemann is a criminal liar and that he just used her. I told her so from the start, but she would not listen and had to learn so late.

I don't know what the Israeli government replied to Heinemann, I will ask RB. But as the Germans kidnapped me out of Danmark, my travel to Israel could not be realized.

Ingo Heinemann, I know you read my postings. Consider this one a good oldfashioned American punch in your disgusting German Nazi nose. Find another hobby than destroying my life, you German Nazi geek!

(In my earlier postings in this series, I described the incredible abuse that I had to suffer in the hands of the German authorities and the psychs. RB wrote, that she saw that my face was battered, my nose punched bloody, and she described my hands, red and swollen like the two halfs of an orange, due to the fact that I was transported in deliberately too tight closed handcuffs 7-8 hours from Luebeck to Munich. I wasn't allowed to talk to an attorney and the psychs ruined my kidneys. I wasn't healed from anything, because I wasn't metally ill. Thanks for your participation, Heinemann, you freaking Nazi, and thanks for pulling the Israelis also in that still existing German Nazi hatred that rages now mainly against Scientologists, and esp. against me. I would have been a lot better off in Israel, working in a Kibuz.)

There will be another sequel.

Barbara Schwarz, April 17, 2003

<hr> From: ShyDavid
Subject: Re: Gauging the Effectiveness of Shock Therapy
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:56:52 GMT
Message-ID: <3ea10f4f@news2.lightlink.com>

On 14 Apr 2003 10:15:27 -0700, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:

> barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3E989B1F.6080405@cox.net>...

> > You may well wind up being able to tell us what it's like, Babs!
> > Remember the Koos of yesteryear! He can probably tell us what it's like
> > by now as well...I'm sure drowning his daughter made perfect sense at
> > the time. What will be your "over the top" act? Trying to prove the
> > existance of Nazi ear-muffs on a Starbucks patron with a hatchet?

> Yes, I heard that Koos has killed some of his children. It was all
> over the web. This is what the mindcontrollers to do people; they
> bring out the worst in people. To them, it makes perfect sense to
> order their agents to kill somebody or to manipulate those people in
> committing terror acts, murder and other cimes. That is why I am so
> worried about that system. If earimplants would be just harmless toys,
> I never would have said a word about it.
>
> And that is why you should not cover up that system, Dave, that makes
> you guilty and also makes you look desperate.

If I have "ear implants," why have I never committed any crime more terrible than jay-walking? Why have I always been a law-abiding, loving, compassionate, caring, empathic, sympathetic, giving, liberal, life-affirming individual? I'm 42 years old, commit no crimes, pay 100% of my taxes, refuse to cheat anyone, and treat everyone fairly, honestly, and with the respect they earn..... wouldn't "ear implants" make me otherwise? When I was in Hawai'i I saved the life of an old man who fell into the harbor after he suffered a mile heart attack: why didn't my "mind controllers" prevent me from saving him? I have a letter from my savings and loan company thanking me for returning $100 in cach that the teller accidently over-paid me.... why didn't my "mind controller" tell me to keep the money?

> I have no case officer and no mindcontroller. There will be
> no "over the top" act by me ever.

Since "mind controllers" are part of the symptoms, the belief you lack one / them is not innoculation against further degredation of cognative (and ethical) function.

> However, I am not sure as far as you are concerned... You are posting
> wild stuff, sometimes I think you could snap.

I snapped over a decade--- and nearly died. Now I'm back, stronger than ever: wouldn't "ear implants" work diametrically opposite?

> Too much radio in your ears, Dave.

It's called "Country / Western Music," Barb, and you should give it a try some time.

> Barbara Schwarz

--- Anarchy doesn't mean "No rules:" it means "No rulers."

<hr> From: ShyDavid
Subject: Re: I love this place
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 09:31:14 GMT
Message-ID: <3ea1175c@news2.lightlink.com>

On 17 Apr 2003 09:03:21 -0700, BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote:

> jism_monkey2002@yahoo.co.uk (eric presley) wrote in message
> news:<dae0d1a3.0304170134.6eeaecc4@posting.google.com>...

> > maybe you missed this bit :
> >
> > In reality there are only two creatures that knowingly enter the
> > vicinity of venomous snakes, those who want to be bitten in order to
> > percieve a better reality, or rats who are desperate for food,
> > desperate enough to put their life in grave danger.
> >
> > which are you ??

> None of both. I am the exterminator.

Who do you plan on killing?

> Barbara Schwarz

--- Anarchy doesn't mean "No rules:" it means "No rulers."

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 21 Apr 2003 08:56:36 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304210756.78cdf40b@posting.google.com>

RB informed me that she participated in an "Elterninitiativtag", a "Parent-Initiative-Day, in German town Ingolfing, on December 8, 1984. Those Scientology attackers with their German propaganda tricks tried always to paint the wrongful picture that Scientologists were juveniles, and that it would be alright by the parents to disturb their right as legal adults by attacking and stealing their religious belief. I was a legal adult, but through that German Anti-Scientology hate propaganda, RB was so influenced and mindcontrolled that in her eyes, I was still in diapers or something like it, and I should be home with her playing with dolls and nothing else.

I remember a big event by Scientology attackers in Munich, organized by them to make the lives of legal adult Scientologists a living hell by injecting lies and fears in the minds of their relatives, which were no Scientologists. One day, Charlotte Propach was tired of hearing that she is a juvenile, and that her parents should get her out of Scientology, because she was able to think for herself. Charlotte was a doctor of Botanic and became a staffmember of the Munich Scientology org. She was 80 years old and held a speech on this event, but with no result. The Germans and the anti-Scientologists don't respect any rights of Scientologists, and if Charlottes parents would have been still alive, the Scientology attackers would have asked her parents to kidnap their 80 year old "child" to deprogram her from Scientology.

Back to the other event in Ingolfing: RB wrote that she was charged 150 Marks for membership and lunch. Can you believe that? 150 Marks just to hear hate speeches and for a sandwich? The Scientology attackers are hypocrites by attacking Scientology on it's prices by being themselves masters of overcharging. - That is also why I am convinced that the prices of Scientology are not made by L. Ron Hubbard or real Scientologists, but the Scientology infiltrators, the agents of the Scientology attackers. They make the high prices to have something they can attack Scientology on. Ron rather would have more Scientologists on earth than orgs that charge that high.

RB wrote that Friedrich Willhelm Haack ordered RB's friend Josef Beneken and apparently others to conceal everything that was done to me by the German government and it's psychs. My treatment is Germany's dirty little secret and everything that could shed light on it, must be prevented. Haack was like Saddam Hussein, a dictator, apparently nobody had the right of freedom of speech.

RB revealed now to me that Peter Gauweiler was also sceduled to be a main speaker of this event, in other words, to spread more hatred against Scientologists and more lies against Scientology in German Nazi style. But when Gauweiler heard that RB was in the audience, ready to question him why he blackmailed, pressured, intimidated, harassed and threatened me earlier that year, he suddenly declined to speak and just sat quiety in Haack's group without saying a word. - What a slimy coward Peter Gauweiler is.

RB also wrote that Peter Gauweiler visited Iraq, Baghdad, Saddam Hussein's government only a few years ago and beamed on German TV how he enjoyed having been pampered by Saddam's government. He stressed how well he felt as a German in Saddam's Iraq. I woudn't be surprised to hear that Gauweiler and Saddam tortured some people together, after all I can say about Gauweiler, he surely knew how to torture me. That is why Germany protected Saddam as long as possible: they are so much alike. (I bet that Germany also has a lot to do with that Bin Laden and Saddam came away and that they know where they are hiding. Saddam's Bunker was build by a German. Saddam's top science advisor, Amer al-Saadi is married to Helga, a German national. Looks to me that Germans told al-Saadi to give himself up to the USA to mislead the USA to believe that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, since the Germans made more money than any other country with making arms deal with Iraq. Another scientists said that Iraq had the WMD but destroyed them just before the USA marched in Iraq, so that USA would not find them.)

Anyway, RB wrote that Bavarian Senator Burnhauser spoke also on that December 8, 1994 event, promoting illegal steps by individuals against Scientology. (Mr. Burnhauser, if you are still alive, how assisting me to sue the German government and their psychs for everthing they did to me? My life in the Scientology orgs was a walk in the park compared to what the Anti-Scientology hate campaign, the German authorities and the psychs did to me.)

Otherwise, RB mentioned that high powered German politicans (Nazis in my language) participated in that event, as Geisler from the political party CDU, and others as von Gienanth, a fanatical professor with name Gerke and his wife Gerda, some other fanatical from Leverkusen with name Zoebel, and many more. (I'll bet they still weep in their pillows that Hitler is gone and they can't use the gas oven on the Scientologists anymore.) The hatred that those people spread against the Scientologists is really the same kind that lead to the murder of millions of Jews in Germany. There were Scientologists which digged out statements that the Nazis made against the Jews and compared them with the statements against Scientology: And what a "surprise", the statements were very much the same.

RB wrote that Gauweiler got old and fat before his time. I will ask RB if he still has that nasty little Hitler moustache. Hey, Gauweiler, evil deeds aren't so good for the looks, aren't they? You should see how well preserved I still look, because I don't belong to any axis of evil.

There will be another installment in this series.

Barbara Schwarz, April 21, 2003

<hr> From: "PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:16:29 -0400
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Here's a question for you. And I honestly want you to answer this.

Have you LIVED in Germany? Odds are, you haven't. I can tell in one easy way. You toss the word "Nazi" around for anything that contradicts your other-worldly point of view. I dare you to go to Germany and use that word. Please do.

In Germany, it's a cultural thing (at least outside of the actual neo-Nazi skinhead groups) to NOT use the word Nazi, or do anything with Nazis or handle anything resembling Nazism. To call someone in Germany is not only insulting, it's a crime. To call someone a Nazi in Germany is much like calling someone a "Nigger" in the U.S.; degrading of the person down to a mere label as well as insulting their culture and background.

Every time I see your posts here, I usually read them because they are mildly entertaining (so insane) and because I know others will bring them up. However, every time I get started, I get that shudder down my spine. That brief shudder that I get when people use other racial slurs. While you're calling Germans "Nazis", you might as well wave around terms in the same league. I'd never bring friends to see you. I'd be afraid you'd call them "Kikes", "Spics", and "Chinks".

You are a racist woman who hates a country for not wanting to get taken over by the most insidious organization known to man. An organization that has done dirty tricks so harsh, it'd make the CIA blush.

In addition, comparing the plight of the Jewish people during the holocaust to preventing a greedy company from infecting their government with mind-control propaganda (or "technology", if you prefer) is an insult to the Jewish people, which I suppose is normal for you.

Move your racist comments elsewhere; usenet has plently of places out there for someone so hateful of the rest of the world, someone such as yourself.

PSn

"BarbaraSchwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a6bc00a0.0304210756.78cdf40b@posting.google.com... > RB informed me that she participated in an "Elterninitiativtag", a
> "Parent-Initiative-Day, in German town Ingolfing, on December 8, 1984.
> Those Scientology attackers with their German propaganda tricks tried
> always to paint the wrongful picture that Scientologists were
> juveniles, and that it would be alright by the parents to disturb
> their right as legal adults by attacking and stealing their religious
> belief. I was a legal adult, but through that German Anti-Scientology
> hate propaganda, RB was so influenced and mindcontrolled that in her
> eyes, I was still in diapers or something like it, and I should be
> home with her playing with dolls and nothing else.
>
> I remember a big event by Scientology attackers in Munich, organized
> by them to make the lives of legal adult Scientologists a living hell
> by injecting lies and fears in the minds of their relatives, which
> were no Scientologists. One day, Charlotte Propach was tired of
> hearing that she is a juvenile, and that her parents should get her
> out of Scientology, because she was able to think for herself.
> Charlotte was a doctor of Botanic and became a staffmember of the
> Munich Scientology org. She was 80 years old and held a speech on this
> event, but with no result. The Germans and the anti-Scientologists
> don't respect any rights of Scientologists, and if Charlottes parents
> would have been still alive, the Scientology attackers would have
> asked her parents to kidnap their 80 year old "child" to deprogram her
> from Scientology.
>
> Back to the other event in Ingolfing: RB wrote that she was charged
> 150 Marks for membership and lunch. Can you believe that? 150 Marks
> just to hear hate speeches and for a sandwich? The Scientology
> attackers are hypocrites by attacking Scientology on it's prices by
> being themselves masters of overcharging. - That is also why I am
> convinced that the prices of Scientology are not made by L. Ron
> Hubbard or real Scientologists, but the Scientology infiltrators, the
> agents of the Scientology attackers. They make the high prices to have
> something they can attack Scientology on. Ron rather would have more
> Scientologists on earth than orgs that charge that high.
>
> RB wrote that Friedrich Willhelm Haack ordered RB's friend Josef
> Beneken and apparently others to conceal everything that was done to
> me by the German government and it's psychs. My treatment is Germany's
> dirty little secret and everything that could shed light on it, must
> be prevented. Haack was like Saddam Hussein, a dictator, apparently
> nobody had the right of freedom of speech.
>
> RB revealed now to me that Peter Gauweiler was also sceduled to be a
> main speaker of this event, in other words, to spread more hatred
> against Scientologists and more lies against Scientology in German
> Nazi style. But when Gauweiler heard that RB was in the audience,
> ready to question him why he blackmailed, pressured, intimidated,
> harassed and threatened me earlier that year, he suddenly declined to
> speak and just sat quiety in Haack's group without saying a word. -
> What a slimy coward Peter Gauweiler is.
>
> RB also wrote that Peter Gauweiler visited Iraq, Baghdad, Saddam
> Hussein's government only a few years ago and beamed on German TV how
> he enjoyed having been pampered by Saddam's government. He stressed
> how well he felt as a German in Saddam's Iraq.
> I woudn't be surprised to hear that Gauweiler and Saddam tortured some
> people together, after all I can say about Gauweiler, he surely knew
> how to torture me. That is why Germany protected Saddam as long as
> possible: they are so much alike.
> (I bet that Germany also has a lot to do with that Bin Laden and
> Saddam came away and that they know where they are hiding. Saddam's
> Bunker was build by a German. Saddam's top science advisor, Amer
> al-Saadi is married to Helga, a German national. Looks to me that
> Germans told al-Saadi to give himself up to the USA to mislead the USA
> to believe that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, since the
> Germans made more money than any other country with making arms deal
> with Iraq. Another scientists said that Iraq had the WMD but destroyed
> them just before the USA marched in Iraq, so that USA would not find
> them.)
>
> Anyway, RB wrote that Bavarian Senator Burnhauser spoke also on that
> December 8, 1994 event, promoting illegal steps by individuals against
> Scientology. (Mr. Burnhauser, if you are still alive, how assisting me
> to sue the German government and their psychs for everthing they did
> to me? My life in the Scientology orgs was a walk in the park compared
> to what the Anti-Scientology hate campaign, the German authorities and
> the psychs did to me.)
>
> Otherwise, RB mentioned that high powered German politicans (Nazis in
> my language) participated in that event, as Geisler from the political
> party CDU, and others as von Gienanth, a fanatical professor with name
> Gerke and his wife Gerda, some other fanatical from Leverkusen with
> name Zoebel, and many more. (I'll bet they still weep in their pillows
> that Hitler is gone and they can't use the gas oven on the
> Scientologists anymore.) The hatred that those people spread against
> the Scientologists is really the same kind that lead to the murder of
> millions of Jews in Germany. There were Scientologists which digged
> out statements that the Nazis made against the Jews and compared them
> with the statements against Scientology: And what a "surprise", the
> statements were very much the same.
>
> RB wrote that Gauweiler got old and fat before his time. I will ask RB
> if he still has that nasty little Hitler moustache. Hey, Gauweiler,
> evil deeds aren't so good for the looks, aren't they? You should see
> how well preserved I still look, because I don't belong to any axis of
> evil.
>
> There will be another installment in this series.
>
> Barbara Schwarz,
> April 21, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 22 Apr 2003 09:00:50 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304220800.1239f9b0@posting.google.com>

Listen, you anonymous coward with a German Nazi mind controller: Read the former installments of this series, and you will see how much I have to suffer under the Germans. Is this is not Nazi-Germany anymore, what is it then?

Before you post uninformed about me, you should educate yourself first. I posted so much about my life in Germany, that just an ignorant fool would say that I did not live there.

I will not go to Germany? Do you think I am suicidal? The Germans have exchanged the Scientologists with the Jews. Yes, I said in Germany that the Germans are still Nazis, and I almost did not get out of Germany alive.

They are still Nazis, but when you say the truth, they come after you. They are just was worse as the Taliban, Hussein's Iraq and other suppressive governments. Don't try to educate me about Germany, because you did not live there, but I was kidnapped in that freaking God-forsaken Country and I don't want to be burried there.

Yes, the Germans cover up that they are still Nazis, that is why I had no freedom of speech in Germany. Your comparison with the "N" word is competely out of line. Many Germans are still Nazis. I heard it so often from a German (not a skin head) that Hitler was a good man with great ideas, and that long long after Hitler was defeated.

Germans are still Nazis, but black people were never "N.....". That is typically German, to compare them with that race that they also suppressed here in the USA by running secretly the Klu Klux Klan.

> In Germany, it's a cultural thing (at least outside of the actual neo-Nazi
> skinhead groups) to NOT use the word Nazi, or do anything with Nazis or
> handle anything resembling Nazism. To call someone in Germany is not only
> insulting, it's a crime. To call someone a Nazi in Germany is much like
> calling someone a "Nigger" in the U.S.; degrading of the person down to a
> mere label as well as insulting their culture and background.

You are the kind of guy, the German still active Nazis love. A guy so blind to what they still do, that they can come away with their ongoing atrocities.You have a German mindcontroller. He made you write that. You probably were a German in your past life, that is why you shudder.

Scientology doesn't want to take Germany over. You suffer from persecution mania, my friend. Scientologists in Germanty just want to live in peace. You are so uneducated about what happened the Scientologists in Germany, that it really hurts. You are the racist, because you cover actively German Nazi activities up.

If something is foul in Scientology, then because the German still active Nazi secret service infiltrated the orgs re-wrote policies and created problems on the inside to give the ourside Nazis a justification to attack from the outside. Those are the people that have their hats full with dirty tricks.

I am not only a Scio, I am also a Jew. I suffered in Germany terribly. They abused me and ruined my health, just in the Concentration Camps.

All I can say to you: Heil Hitler, because that is your midncontroller and your posting really insulted me and all I had to suffer in Germany.

Barbara Schwarz

>
> Every time I see your posts here, I usually read them because they are
> mildly entertaining (so insane) and because I know others will bring them
> up. However, every time I get started, I get that shudder down my spine.
> That brief shudder that I get when people use other racial slurs. While
> you're calling Germans "Nazis", you might as well wave around terms in the
> same league. I'd never bring friends to see you. I'd be afraid you'd call
> them "Kikes", "Spics", and "Chinks".
>
> You are a racist woman who hates a country for not wanting to get taken over
> by the most insidious organization known to man. An organization that has
> done dirty tricks so harsh, it'd make the CIA blush.
>
> In addition, comparing the plight of the Jewish people during the holocaust
> to preventing a greedy company from infecting their government with
> mind-control propaganda (or "technology", if you prefer) is an insult to the
> Jewish people, which I suppose is normal for you.
>
> Move your racist comments elsewhere; usenet has plently of places out there
> for someone so hateful of the rest of the world, someone such as yourself.
>
> PSn
>
> "BarbaraSchwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a6bc00a0.0304210756.78cdf40b@posting.google.com...
> > RB informed me that she participated in an "Elterninitiativtag", a
> > "Parent-Initiative-Day, in German town Ingolfing, on December 8, 1984.
> > Those Scientology attackers with their German propaganda tricks tried
> > always to paint the wrongful picture that Scientologists were
> > juveniles, and that it would be alright by the parents to disturb
> > their right as legal adults by attacking and stealing their religious
> > belief. I was a legal adult, but through that German Anti-Scientology
> > hate propaganda, RB was so influenced and mindcontrolled that in her
> > eyes, I was still in diapers or something like it, and I should be
> > home with her playing with dolls and nothing else.
> >
> > I remember a big event by Scientology attackers in Munich, organized
> > by them to make the lives of legal adult Scientologists a living hell
> > by injecting lies and fears in the minds of their relatives, which
> > were no Scientologists. One day, Charlotte Propach was tired of
> > hearing that she is a juvenile, and that her parents should get her
> > out of Scientology, because she was able to think for herself.
> > Charlotte was a doctor of Botanic and became a staffmember of the
> > Munich Scientology org. She was 80 years old and held a speech on this
> > event, but with no result. The Germans and the anti-Scientologists
> > don't respect any rights of Scientologists, and if Charlottes parents
> > would have been still alive, the Scientology attackers would have
> > asked her parents to kidnap their 80 year old "child" to deprogram her
> > from Scientology.
> >
> > Back to the other event in Ingolfing: RB wrote that she was charged
> > 150 Marks for membership and lunch. Can you believe that? 150 Marks
> > just to hear hate speeches and for a sandwich? The Scientology
> > attackers are hypocrites by attacking Scientology on it's prices by
> > being themselves masters of overcharging. - That is also why I am
> > convinced that the prices of Scientology are not made by L. Ron
> > Hubbard or real Scientologists, but the Scientology infiltrators, the
> > agents of the Scientology attackers. They make the high prices to have
> > something they can attack Scientology on. Ron rather would have more
> > Scientologists on earth than orgs that charge that high.
> >
> > RB wrote that Friedrich Willhelm Haack ordered RB's friend Josef
> > Beneken and apparently others to conceal everything that was done to
> > me by the German government and it's psychs. My treatment is Germany's
> > dirty little secret and everything that could shed light on it, must
> > be prevented. Haack was like Saddam Hussein, a dictator, apparently
> > nobody had the right of freedom of speech.
> >
> > RB revealed now to me that Peter Gauweiler was also sceduled to be a
> > main speaker of this event, in other words, to spread more hatred
> > against Scientologists and more lies against Scientology in German
> > Nazi style. But when Gauweiler heard that RB was in the audience,
> > ready to question him why he blackmailed, pressured, intimidated,
> > harassed and threatened me earlier that year, he suddenly declined to
> > speak and just sat quiety in Haack's group without saying a word. -
> > What a slimy coward Peter Gauweiler is.
> >
> > RB also wrote that Peter Gauweiler visited Iraq, Baghdad, Saddam
> > Hussein's government only a few years ago and beamed on German TV how
> > he enjoyed having been pampered by Saddam's government. He stressed
> > how well he felt as a German in Saddam's Iraq.
> > I woudn't be surprised to hear that Gauweiler and Saddam tortured some
> > people together, after all I can say about Gauweiler, he surely knew
> > how to torture me. That is why Germany protected Saddam as long as
> > possible: they are so much alike.
> > (I bet that Germany also has a lot to do with that Bin Laden and
> > Saddam came away and that they know where they are hiding. Saddam's
> > Bunker was build by a German. Saddam's top science advisor, Amer
> > al-Saadi is married to Helga, a German national. Looks to me that
> > Germans told al-Saadi to give himself up to the USA to mislead the USA
> > to believe that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, since the
> > Germans made more money than any other country with making arms deal
> > with Iraq. Another scientists said that Iraq had the WMD but destroyed
> > them just before the USA marched in Iraq, so that USA would not find
> > them.)
> >
> > Anyway, RB wrote that Bavarian Senator Burnhauser spoke also on that
> > December 8, 1994 event, promoting illegal steps by individuals against
> > Scientology. (Mr. Burnhauser, if you are still alive, how assisting me
> > to sue the German government and their psychs for everthing they did
> > to me? My life in the Scientology orgs was a walk in the park compared
> > to what the Anti-Scientology hate campaign, the German authorities and
> > the psychs did to me.)
> >
> > Otherwise, RB mentioned that high powered German politicans (Nazis in
> > my language) participated in that event, as Geisler from the political
> > party CDU, and others as von Gienanth, a fanatical professor with name
> > Gerke and his wife Gerda, some other fanatical from Leverkusen with
> > name Zoebel, and many more. (I'll bet they still weep in their pillows
> > that Hitler is gone and they can't use the gas oven on the
> > Scientologists anymore.) The hatred that those people spread against
> > the Scientologists is really the same kind that lead to the murder of
> > millions of Jews in Germany. There were Scientologists which digged
> > out statements that the Nazis made against the Jews and compared them
> > with the statements against Scientology: And what a "surprise", the
> > statements were very much the same.
> >
> > RB wrote that Gauweiler got old and fat before his time. I will ask RB
> > if he still has that nasty little Hitler moustache. Hey, Gauweiler,
> > evil deeds aren't so good for the looks, aren't they? You should see
> > how well preserved I still look, because I don't belong to any axis of
> > evil.
> >
> > There will be another installment in this series.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz,
> > April 21, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 22 Apr 2003 09:53:31 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304220853.43b3d708@posting.google.com>

"PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<JZecnThNI6PzujmjXTWcqw@comcast.com>... > Here's a question for you. And I honestly want you to answer this.
>
> Have you LIVED in Germany? Odds are, you haven't. I can tell in one easy
> way. You toss the word "Nazi" around for anything that contradicts your
> other-worldly point of view. I dare you to go to Germany and use that word.
> Please do.
>
> In Germany, it's a cultural thing (at least outside of the actual neo-Nazi
> skinhead groups) to NOT use the word Nazi, or do anything with Nazis or
> handle anything resembling Nazism. To call someone in Germany is not only
> insulting, it's a crime. To call someone a Nazi in Germany is much like
> calling someone a "Nigger" in the U.S.; degrading of the person down to a
> mere label as well as insulting their culture and background.
>
> Every time I see your posts here, I usually read them because they are
> mildly entertaining (so insane) and because I know others will bring them
> up. However, every time I get started, I get that shudder down my spine.
> That brief shudder that I get when people use other racial slurs. While
> you're calling Germans "Nazis", you might as well wave around terms in the
> same league. I'd never bring friends to see you. I'd be afraid you'd call
> them "Kikes", "Spics", and "Chinks".
>
> You are a racist woman who hates a country for not wanting to get taken over
> by the most insidious organization known to man. An organization that has
> done dirty tricks so harsh, it'd make the CIA blush.
>
> In addition, comparing the plight of the Jewish people during the holocaust
> to preventing a greedy company from infecting their government with
> mind-control propaganda (or "technology", if you prefer) is an insult to the
> Jewish people, which I suppose is normal for you.
>
> Move your racist comments elsewhere; usenet has plently of places out there
> for someone so hateful of the rest of the world, someone such as yourself.
>
> PSn
>
> "BarbaraSchwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a6bc00a0.0304210756.78cdf40b@posting.google.com...
> > RB informed me that she participated in an "Elterninitiativtag", a
> > "Parent-Initiative-Day, in German town Ingolfing, on December 8, 1984.
> > Those Scientology attackers with their German propaganda tricks tried
> > always to paint the wrongful picture that Scientologists were
> > juveniles, and that it would be alright by the parents to disturb
> > their right as legal adults by attacking and stealing their religious
> > belief. I was a legal adult, but through that German Anti-Scientology
> > hate propaganda, RB was so influenced and mindcontrolled that in her
> > eyes, I was still in diapers or something like it, and I should be
> > home with her playing with dolls and nothing else.
> >
> > I remember a big event by Scientology attackers in Munich, organized
> > by them to make the lives of legal adult Scientologists a living hell
> > by injecting lies and fears in the minds of their relatives, which
> > were no Scientologists. One day, Charlotte Propach was tired of
> > hearing that she is a juvenile, and that her parents should get her
> > out of Scientology, because she was able to think for herself.
> > Charlotte was a doctor of Botanic and became a staffmember of the
> > Munich Scientology org. She was 80 years old and held a speech on this
> > event, but with no result. The Germans and the anti-Scientologists
> > don't respect any rights of Scientologists, and if Charlottes parents
> > would have been still alive, the Scientology attackers would have
> > asked her parents to kidnap their 80 year old "child" to deprogram her
> > from Scientology.
> >
> > Back to the other event in Ingolfing: RB wrote that she was charged
> > 150 Marks for membership and lunch. Can you believe that? 150 Marks
> > just to hear hate speeches and for a sandwich? The Scientology
> > attackers are hypocrites by attacking Scientology on it's prices by
> > being themselves masters of overcharging. - That is also why I am
> > convinced that the prices of Scientology are not made by L. Ron
> > Hubbard or real Scientologists, but the Scientology infiltrators, the
> > agents of the Scientology attackers. They make the high prices to have
> > something they can attack Scientology on. Ron rather would have more
> > Scientologists on earth than orgs that charge that high.
> >
> > RB wrote that Friedrich Willhelm Haack ordered RB's friend Josef
> > Beneken and apparently others to conceal everything that was done to
> > me by the German government and it's psychs. My treatment is Germany's
> > dirty little secret and everything that could shed light on it, must
> > be prevented. Haack was like Saddam Hussein, a dictator, apparently
> > nobody had the right of freedom of speech.
> >
> > RB revealed now to me that Peter Gauweiler was also sceduled to be a
> > main speaker of this event, in other words, to spread more hatred
> > against Scientologists and more lies against Scientology in German
> > Nazi style. But when Gauweiler heard that RB was in the audience,
> > ready to question him why he blackmailed, pressured, intimidated,
> > harassed and threatened me earlier that year, he suddenly declined to
> > speak and just sat quiety in Haack's group without saying a word. -
> > What a slimy coward Peter Gauweiler is.
> >
> > RB also wrote that Peter Gauweiler visited Iraq, Baghdad, Saddam
> > Hussein's government only a few years ago and beamed on German TV how
> > he enjoyed having been pampered by Saddam's government. He stressed
> > how well he felt as a German in Saddam's Iraq.
> > I woudn't be surprised to hear that Gauweiler and Saddam tortured some
> > people together, after all I can say about Gauweiler, he surely knew
> > how to torture me. That is why Germany protected Saddam as long as
> > possible: they are so much alike.
> > (I bet that Germany also has a lot to do with that Bin Laden and
> > Saddam came away and that they know where they are hiding. Saddam's
> > Bunker was build by a German. Saddam's top science advisor, Amer
> > al-Saadi is married to Helga, a German national. Looks to me that
> > Germans told al-Saadi to give himself up to the USA to mislead the USA
> > to believe that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, since the
> > Germans made more money than any other country with making arms deal
> > with Iraq. Another scientists said that Iraq had the WMD but destroyed
> > them just before the USA marched in Iraq, so that USA would not find
> > them.)
> >
> > Anyway, RB wrote that Bavarian Senator Burnhauser spoke also on that
> > December 8, 1994 event, promoting illegal steps by individuals against
> > Scientology. (Mr. Burnhauser, if you are still alive, how assisting me
> > to sue the German government and their psychs for everthing they did
> > to me? My life in the Scientology orgs was a walk in the park compared
> > to what the Anti-Scientology hate campaign, the German authorities and
> > the psychs did to me.)
> >
> > Otherwise, RB mentioned that high powered German politicans (Nazis in
> > my language) participated in that event, as Geisler from the political
> > party CDU, and others as von Gienanth, a fanatical professor with name
> > Gerke and his wife Gerda, some other fanatical from Leverkusen with
> > name Zoebel, and many more. (I'll bet they still weep in their pillows
> > that Hitler is gone and they can't use the gas oven on the
> > Scientologists anymore.) The hatred that those people spread against
> > the Scientologists is really the same kind that lead to the murder of
> > millions of Jews in Germany. There were Scientologists which digged
> > out statements that the Nazis made against the Jews and compared them
> > with the statements against Scientology: And what a "surprise", the
> > statements were very much the same.
> >
> > RB wrote that Gauweiler got old and fat before his time. I will ask RB
> > if he still has that nasty little Hitler moustache. Hey, Gauweiler,
> > evil deeds aren't so good for the looks, aren't they? You should see
> > how well preserved I still look, because I don't belong to any axis of
> > evil.
> >
> > There will be another installment in this series.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz,
> > April 21, 2003

I honestly ask you, what is your name? Why do you post anonymously?

You want me to answer you honestly if I ever LIVED in Germany? You posted that you would read my postings, how come you missed the foregoing 79 installments of this series? Your question is answered right in those sequels. I urge you to read this series in full, because you postings about the Germans are very very unqualified.

But I will also answer that question here. Did I ever live in Germany? The answer is: no. I SUFFERED for approximately 30 years in Germany! And that thanks to the still active German NAZIs, which are not just skin heads, the next door neighbors, but the German government and it's psychiatrists, and also other people in all levels of the German society.

I was there. Who in the world channelled in your ear drums that the Germans are so innocent now, just because they lost WW II. What do you think made that brutal folk to saints? The loss of a war? It made them just more covertly hateful. The Germans should have needed education to evolve from the mean beast in humans. They did not get that. They are still the beast.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 81: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 23 Apr 2003 09:01:15 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304230801.3090d1ab@posting.google.com>

I received more mail from RB.

She confessed that she wrote to Steven Hassan, (an ex-moonie)that Kurt Weiland cheated me about 1100 DM. Her letter is not dated. Fact is: Kurt Weiland, Rudolph Moyses, and I had a small private vitamin business in Munich for a while. None of both cheated me, and I never claimed otherwise. Rudolph was responsible for the finances, and he was very accurate.

RB mentioned that she went to the Munich Gewerbeamt (Office for Business Registrations) to demand from the officials to close our business down. She did that without my knowledge, and of course, consent. Fact is: What a snake!

RB wrote, that she assumes that Peter Gauweiler wanted the publicity that came from detective Wunderer's spy work around him, that Gauweiler just claimed that he didn't like it. She thinks that not only the Munich org paid Wunderer, but that he also got money from Gauweiler. Fact is: The detective surely failed to get the real stuff on Gauweiler, and the Scientology money for the detective was wasted. He should have revealed that Gauweiler has ear implants and works for the still existing German Nazi secret service.

RB wrote, that German "Spiegel" reporter Rummler was in contact with her friend Josef Beneken, and that Rummler was informed about the events in my life. Fact is: Instead of writing anti-Scientology propaganda, he should have better written articles on how fanatically "parents" become, by reading the propaganda, how they make the lives of their adult "children" to living hell with their unbiased fears which lead them to "deprogramming"-plans.

RB wrote, that Juergen Keltsch, former Munich district attorney, would not want to help me, because I had claimed that there are still Nazis in the German government. Fact is: As if I would be out of line here! Sure they are in there, and Keltsch was/is one of them. There are still enough Nazis in the German government, and if you claim so, they treat you like a Jew, which also should make everybody think.

RB wrote that Ralph Mucha, another governmental official, in Duesseldorf, run over years smear campaigns against me. Fact is: I can't argue with that. He sure did.

RB wrote that she screamed her prayers (to salvage me from Scientology, despite I did not need and did not want any salvaging) so loud, that the people in the neighboring houses could hear them. Fact is: That is what the German psychiatric and governmental blessed anti-Scientology hate campaigns create: people that become so fanatically and desperate that they snap and do the unthinkable. I wonder that RB wasn't locked up by psychs. No, I don't wonder. They only lock up the sane, the insane are free to continue their crimes and insanity on the outside.

RB wrote, that Steven Hassan's mother prayed that he would break a leg, so that the deprogramming would succeed, and that he broke a leg and the deprogramming succeeded. Fact is: Another "good" mother. Now I know what RB was praying for and screaming in the neighborhood and to a God that has horns and a tail.

RB wrote, that she read in a book, that district attorney Keltsch became a judge at the Munich Oberlandesgericht(Superior Court). She claims that he made career through her petitions to the Bundeshaus (Fed. Parliament)and his action on me. She wrote, that her "petitions" entered to the expert panel of the German Bundeshaus in March/April 1996. She mentioned Petition no: 3-11-17-2163-36 889 and the name Christa Nickels. Fact is: RB was inspired by the German hate campaigns against Scientology. Germany lives on lies, that is why I am not surprised that the Bundeshaus acted upon that or that criminal Keltsch was promoted to a high position as a judge. It is a shame for the Bundeshaus that they did not get that RB and Keltsch are both above the law and the constitution and sucked 99 % of their claims right out of their fingers.

RB wrote, that she wanted to deprogram me again in mid and end of the 80s. One time through people in Spain. That was apparently why Birigitta Dagnell Harrington Ringkvist came to the USA, stayed with Pricilla Coates, but wanted to see me, after she had denied my rights to me already in the orgs. The other person that should help in deprogramming was Nancy McClean in Canada. Reginald Alev helped RB to that contact. Fact is: When does it ever end? Why can't people just accept an adult person's religion and get on with their own lives? McClean apparently told RB that she should stay out of deprogramming, but that she would counsel me otherwise. Well, thanks, Nancy, don't need it, I have my own head to think with, I don't need yours.

RB revealed, that not only Cyril Vosper, John Mathewson or Matheson, and Reynold (I believe Douglas was his first name) were involved in trying to "deprogram" me from Scientology in 1987, but that German nationals Rohmann, Prof. Gerke and Ingo Heinemann were also involved, and that Friedrich Wilhelm Haack was the one, who told her first about that "possibility". She wrote, that she got the names of Vosper, Matheson or Mathewson, the English deprogrammers from Rohmann through Heinemann, and that Gerke was a part of that too. Fact is: The German justice system allowed all those people to come away unpunished. This "deprogramming" is such a sick idea. From what should I be deprogrammed in the first place? I had no program inside of me. Deprogramming is just to turn people around and to make them hate. Deprogrammed people get something as the "Stockholm Syndrom", suddenly join their kidnappers and become criminal deprogrammers themselves. Deprogramming is a way to create more criminals. That's all it is.

Read more in next installment.

Barbara Schwarz, April 23, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 23 Apr 2003 09:54:55 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304230854.6def858e@posting.google.com>

"PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<csOdnb7ThqMpZjijXTWcpw@comcast.com>... > > I honestly ask you, what is your name? Why do you post anonymously?
> >
>
> Those who are trustworthy enough to know my name know it. People who I can
> trust not to sell me out to Scientology, Inc. can know my name. You can't.
> I post anonymously for the same reasons that many others have wrote
> anonymous works while in fear of their livelihoods from oppressive groups.
> I fear Scientology, Inc., mainly because it spends more in one year on their
> lawyers than my entire family has made in the past ten years. I fear
> Scientology because I barely make enough money as a student, to pay for my
> car, let alone enough money to fight a multinational corporate entity that
> has no sympathy even for its own members.
>
> > You want me to answer you honestly if I ever LIVED in Germany? You
> > posted that you would read my postings, how come you missed the
> > foregoing 79 installments of this series?
>
> Well, you also claim to live in a dust-free dome and think Xenu is still in
> a electronic fortress in a mountain.
>
> >Your question is answered
> > right in those sequels. I urge you to read this series in full,
> > because you postings about the Germans are very very unqualified.
> >
>
> My postings are quite qualified. I lived there for several years, and all I
> found were a friendly people. It's odd that only Scientologists seem to
> believe that Germany is a Nazi-controlled state.
>
> > But I will also answer that question here. Did I ever live in Germany?
> > The answer is: no. I SUFFERED for approximately 30 years in Germany!
>
> 30 years? How old are you?
>
> > And that thanks to the still active German NAZIs, which are not just
> > skin heads, the next door neighbors, but the German government and
> > it's psychiatrists, and also other people in all levels of the German
> > society.
> >
>
> Name names and give proof. List sources other than yourself. When you make
> a claim that radical, you should give some evidence. Accusations with no
> substance is slander/libel.
>
>
> > I was there. Who in the world channelled in your ear drums that the
> > Germans are so innocent now, just because they lost WW II. What do you
> > think made that brutal folk to saints? The loss of a war? It made them
> > just more covertly hateful. The Germans should have needed education
> > to evolve from the mean beast in humans. They did not get that. They
> > are still the beast.
> >
>
> Well, there were also several decades of foreign control/occupation. In
> addition, our culture lost Vietnam. Trace back from the 50's and you'll see
> how quickly a culture can turn around.
>
> It also doesn't help to prove that you're not racist by referring to an
> entire group of people as animals, or as you put it, "beast".
>
>
>
> PSn

I have no time and also don't see the need to respond to each Nazi heckler that replies to my postings, so I just concentrate briefly on you, cowardly and anyonymous PSn. The only reason you post anonymous is, because you, like other anonymous posters, feel easier spreading your lies and hatred around. If you have no dirty hands, no crimes to hide, why would you be afraid if Scientologist knows your name? You fear Scientology, because your accussations and attacks against Scientology are unbased, are criminal, and you know that. I am not afraid of Scientology at all. Not of any Scientologist there is. And I even claim that the orgs are illegally infiltrated by non-Scientologists, people of your kind, PSn. You are afraid that Scientology sues you for money? If you would not lie and spread hate about Scientology, they could not do anything to you. A judge would simply rule that you committed no crime and that the orgs have to pay the bills. But you know you are lying and spreading falsehoods, that is why you are afraid.

You post like a student, a guy who still thinks like a stupid child and not like an adult. How old I am? Not as old as Barb Graham, but with a lot more life experience as you.

You lived in Germany for several years? Where exactly? As you are so young, if you ever were over there, how little were you? What does a kid as you know about the Nazis, except finding them chic and finding it cool to defend them? I don't know what nationality you have, but your own country has no reason to be proud of you. Don't claim you are an American. You are a traitor. Why did you not stay in still existing Nazi Germany? They like corrupt fools as you are, that is why they treated you well. (They probably gave you lollipops to make your teeth fall out, that is what you call good treatment?) How can an American "feel shudders" by Nazi critic, if not a secret Nazi himself?

That of all the people in the world it is you, who claims that accusations without no substance is libel and slander, is unbelieveable. You are using libel and slander against me, Scientology and also other Scientologists. You should first proof that your accussations against me and Scientology are the truth, before you ask me for proof.

You apparently have a problem duplicating. I wrote you before that you should read the former 79 installments in this series. The proof, that Germany has still a Nazi government is right in there.

Note also, that I don't want to meet you nor any of your friends. If they are like you, they are like German GESTAPO anyway. What did the still existing German Nazi secret service offer you in exchange for defending their Nazi honor? Help with your car payments?

The USA started and lost the Vietnam war, because the United States was already secretly German infiltrated. It's their product. It's also possible that we lost the war, because Barb Graham made the translations.

The world is infiltrated since a very long time, and just because the Germans lost WW II doesn't mean that they gave up their criminal infiltration positions in other governments or any of their sick ideas. (You still have not studied what was going on in Operation Paperclip and why that the Gehlen Nazy Spy Ring was never dismantled, don't you?) What do you learn in your college anyway, except the false information, that the culture (do you mean the Germans?) turned around? It's a lie. I heard it so often from Germans that Hitler was a good man and his ideas were wonderful, the Jews and the Scientologists are the bad people, and that they deserved what ever is done against them.

I have to end this now. I have no time nor agenda to try to convince a retarded guy like you or the other hecklers from the truth.

You are trying to grow a small Hitler moustache yourself?

Just a final word: You posted yourself that saying in Germany that Germans are still Nazis will get you arrested. From my former installments you know that the Germans did any rotten thing to me there is, also shorten my lifespan, the only thing they did not yet, is murdering me.

You wrote, that I should go to Germany and say that they are still Nazis. (I did that, and that is why I had to flee.) By trying to lure me to Germany, you are trying to be an accomplish in my murder. You are one "fine" person. I bet you were a German in your pastlife. You are everything else than an American in your attitude. The Germans steal real Americans and give them out as their own. How about we giving you back to the Germans (still existing Nazis) and get the true Americans back in exchange?

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 24 Apr 2003 10:22:19 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304240922.40f60602@posting.google.com>

"PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<57ednQncqp6flDqjXTWcpQ@comcast.com>... > "BarbaraSchwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a6bc00a0.0304230854.6def858e@posting.google.com...
> > "PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<csOdnb7ThqMpZjijXTWcpw@comcast.com>...
> > > > I honestly ask you, what is your name? Why do you post anonymously?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Those who are trustworthy enough to know my name know it. People who I
> can
> > > trust not to sell me out to Scientology, Inc. can know my name. You
> can't.
> > > I post anonymously for the same reasons that many others have wrote
> > > anonymous works while in fear of their livelihoods from oppressive
> groups.
> > > I fear Scientology, Inc., mainly because it spends more in one year on
> their
> > > lawyers than my entire family has made in the past ten years. I fear
> > > Scientology because I barely make enough money as a student, to pay for
> my
> > > car, let alone enough money to fight a multinational corporate entity
> that
> > > has no sympathy even for its own members.
> > >
> > > > You want me to answer you honestly if I ever LIVED in Germany? You
> > > > posted that you would read my postings, how come you missed the
> > > > foregoing 79 installments of this series?
> > >
> > > Well, you also claim to live in a dust-free dome and think Xenu is still
> in
> > > a electronic fortress in a mountain.
> > >
> > > >Your question is answered
> > > > right in those sequels. I urge you to read this series in full,
> > > > because you postings about the Germans are very very unqualified.
> > > >
> > >
> > > My postings are quite qualified. I lived there for several years, and
> all I
> > > found were a friendly people. It's odd that only Scientologists seem to
> > > believe that Germany is a Nazi-controlled state.
> > >
> > > > But I will also answer that question here. Did I ever live in Germany?
> > > > The answer is: no. I SUFFERED for approximately 30 years in Germany!
> > >
> > > 30 years? How old are you?
> > >
> > > > And that thanks to the still active German NAZIs, which are not just
> > > > skin heads, the next door neighbors, but the German government and
> > > > it's psychiatrists, and also other people in all levels of the German
> > > > society.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Name names and give proof. List sources other than yourself. When you
> make
> > > a claim that radical, you should give some evidence. Accusations with
> no
> > > substance is slander/libel.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was there. Who in the world channelled in your ear drums that the
> > > > Germans are so innocent now, just because they lost WW II. What do
> you
> > > > think made that brutal folk to saints? The loss of a war? It made them
> > > > just more covertly hateful. The Germans should have needed education
> > > > to evolve from the mean beast in humans. They did not get that. They
> > > > are still the beast.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well, there were also several decades of foreign control/occupation. In
> > > addition, our culture lost Vietnam. Trace back from the 50's and you'll
> see
> > > how quickly a culture can turn around.
> > >
> > > It also doesn't help to prove that you're not racist by referring to an
> > > entire group of people as animals, or as you put it, "beast".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PSn
> >
> >
> > I have no time and also don't see the need to respond to each Nazi
> > heckler that replies to my postings, so I just concentrate briefly on
> > you, cowardly and anyonymous PSn.
> > The only reason you post anonymous is, because you, like other
> > anonymous posters, feel easier spreading your lies and hatred around.
> > If you have no dirty hands, no crimes to hide, why would you be afraid
> > if Scientologist knows your name? You fear Scientology, because your
> > accussations and attacks against Scientology are unbased, are
> > criminal, and you know that.
>
> I know that when I was with a group of picketers near a Scientology Org, the
> Scientologist handlers resorted to nearly every technique except direct
> physical assault to drive them away. The tactics I saw in use were
> extremely similar to the tactics used on Civil Rights protestors of the
> 1950's-1960's.

You have no right to disturb a religious community with your German originated and controlled hate campaign near the orgs. You are lucky that I am not more staff in the orgs, because I would have hosed you with a river of water back in your own neighborhood. You were not even in this body, not born, in the 1950s and 60s. What do you know about that time, except, nothing? You are denying the civil rights of Scientologists, by closing in on their religious communities.

>
> I also know that Scientology has no explanation for many of the unexplained
> deaths that have taken place around their organization.

You couldn't be more unspecific here, couldn't you? I wrote before over and over that the Scientology orgs are infiltrated by people or your kind, PNs. Criminal infiltrators and non-Sciedntologists. I run in them myself, complete and very rotten wogs. They are capable of anything, but they are no Scio's. They just lie and say they are to not lose their position to infiltrate and destroy from the inside out.

>
> > I am not afraid of Scientology at all. Not of any Scientologist there
> > is.
>
> Of course you're not. As long as you parrot their propaganda, you'll never
> have to fear anything from them...unless you try to marry someone close to
> L. Ron or decide that the Truman Show isn't what you like.

I claim that Scientology is infiltrated. I claim that David Miscavige took Scientology over with a forged affidavit of L. Ron Hubbard. I claim that the man who died 1986 wasn't L. Ron Hubbard, that his murder was covered up. That is not exactly what D. Miscavige, the leader of SCN want me to say, isn't it?

> >And I even claim that the orgs are illegally infiltrated by
> > non-Scientologists, people of your kind, PSn.
>
> Do you even know "my kind"? Do you even know why I'm here? Where I come
> from? What I do? What exactly do you think you know about me?

Well, you are not very open with any information, aren't you? You try to conceal even what your name is. What I do from you is that you are apprently very young, very stupid, very German mindcontrolled. I know you from your postings. It's all in there.

>
> >You are afraid that
> > Scientology sues you for money? If you would not lie and spread hate
> > about Scientology, they could not do anything to you. A judge would
> > simply rule that you committed no crime and that the orgs have to pay
> > the bills. But you know you are lying and spreading falsehoods, that
> > is why you are afraid.
>
> No, check out RTC vs. Lerma sometime. Scientology lost the case, but it
> still cost Mr. Lerma a ton of cash. You see, in court, well-trained lawyers
> know tons of neat little tricks and games they can play that can easily cost
> you a case, if you yourself do not have a lawyer. Lawyers cost money.
> Money I don't have.

I don't have the money either. I surely know that lawyers are using dirty tricks, but if you don't lie about others, if you don't deny others their religious freedom, if you don't commit other crimes, it is really hard on them to pin you down with something. You also don't need lawyers to defend yourself. You can defend yourself in court. Law is not that difficult to understand.

>
> >
> > You post like a student, a guy who still thinks like a stupid child
> > and not like an adult. How old I am? Not as old as Barb Graham, but
> > with a lot more life experience as you.
> >
>
> Yes, yes, it's an insult to call oneself a student. That's why your beloved
> L. Ron referred to himself as a student of humanity. But again, your own
> anonymous attitude comes forward. I should note that student can reference
> any age group. Just so you know.

Ron did not belittle himself and called him a "student of humanity". Scientology infiltrators made that statement up as so many, to make him look smaller than he is. I have nothing against students, but I have something against socalled American students that kiss German Nazi behinds by working secretly for them. What do you study? Did you get false good grade through the help of your case officer, who channelled you what to say and write through exams and tests? What part in the American society do you plan to occupy with your missing IQ?

>
> > You lived in Germany for several years? Where exactly? As you are so
> > young, if you ever were over there, how little were you?
>
> I lived in Frankfurt. And since you will not give me the courtesy of your
> age, why should I extend the same courtesy to you?

My age is posted in my former installments in this series. I don't know my actual age. I was kidnapped from the USA and was given the identity of another girl, remember? Have you ever heard that it is unpolite to ask a lady for her age? I am not wrinkled yet, and I bet I am a lot prettier than you with your acne sprinkled teenager face. I also don't smoke my beauty away as Barb Graham. Is she ever was pretty on the outside, she surely wasn't ever on the inside.

You lived in Frankfurt? In an American Army Unit where you just saw the Germans a few times on the outside?

>
> >What does a
> > kid as you know about the Nazis, except finding them chic and finding
> > it cool to defend them? I don't know what nationality you have, but
> > your own country has no reason to be proud of you.
>
> Rom have no country, but I do live in America.

You claim to be a Roma? I gypsy? And you say you were welcome in Germany? I can't believe it? Did you ever mention that you were a gypsy or did you hide that from them? You are really traitor of your own race, if you claim that Germany is not more Anti-gypsy in these days.

>
> >Don't claim you are
> > an American. You are a traitor.
>
> Give a specific example where you have seen me give aid and comfort to the
> enemy? I forgot, you're the Anti-Social Personality that Hubbard discussed.
> Speaking in generalities and never giving specifics.

All your very own postings in this thread are examples how you comfort the Germans, which are still very much the enemies of not only the Jews and the Scio's, but also other Americans. Suddenly you believe L. Ron Hubbard? You are the one who is not specific and speaks in generalities.

You remind me to the American Taiban kid Walker Lind. When he got that the USA would bust Taliban, Al Queda and Bin Laden, he surely also must have felt shudders down his spine, just as you do, when I claim that the current German government is still a Nazi government. >
> >Why did you not stay in still existing
> > Nazi Germany? They like corrupt fools as you are, that is why they
> > treated you well. (They probably gave you lollipops to make your teeth
> > fall out, that is what you call good treatment?)
> > How can an American "feel shudders" by Nazi critic, if not a secret
> > Nazi himself?
>
> I left Germany because I decided to live closer to my mother. I feel
> shudders when I see that you declare anyone contrary to you as a Nazi
> sympathizer. It's like the McCarthy era in your mind, except you see Nazis
> around ever corner rather than Communists.

McCarthy was a German Nazi agent, put up by the Germans to make the communists get the rap, and to conceal that the Germans are those that infiltrate the government. He behaved like a bully on German secret service orders to take the appetite of the Americans and congress to go after the real infiltrators of the USA, the Germans. I don't declare people which are no Nazi sympathizer as such. But you are one, you wrote it yourself. You declare me to be a racist, just by writing my story about the abuse I suffered in the hands of the Germans.

>
> >
> > That of all the people in the world it is you, who claims that
> > accusations without no substance is libel and slander, is
> > unbelieveable.
>
> The evidence that Scientology has at the very least murdered Susan Meister
> is out there. Look at the evidence and tell me she wasn't murdered without
> lying.

I have not studied her case. But as I told, Scientology orgs are gardens of good and evil. There are the Scientologists, which are lawful and grant anybody else their rights and just want to live in peace, and there are the criminal international infiltrators, sent in by the German still existing Nazi secret service to destroy and provoke, to create problems. It is not beyond that secret service to also send murderers in the orgs.

>
> >You are using libel and slander against me, Scientology
> > and also other Scientologists. You should first proof that your
> > accussations against me and Scientology are the truth, before you ask
> > me for proof.
>
> Is it untrue that you accuse the entire nation of Germany of being
> lower-than-human ("Beast" as you put it)? Is it untrue that you are
> leveling an accusation at an entire nation based on their ethnicity? Is it
> untrue that Scientology has sued countless people for the simple reason that
> they are critical of the organization, rather than the claims of "Copyright
> Infringement"? Is it untrue the Scientology not only suppresses free
> speech, but takes it further by financially and socially crippling those who
> practice it against their company?

I posted before, that if I would be German, I would rather find my Jewish roots than howling with the still existing Nazi beast. If you read my postings, I was rather talking about the German government and psychs while I was referring to still existing Nazis. I was not speaking about everybody in the population. Many of those must be re-incarnated Jews, people that were killed in the Concentration Camps. Many of the Germans come out of Jewish roots, they probably don't even know it, because their ancestors changed their religion and rase out of fear before the Nazis. It is true that the German government of our days, and many other Germans still are Nazis. I know that because they came after me and they revealed that either openly or covertly to me.

Don't blame me for what Scientology infiltrators do in the orgs. I never wanted them there. However, as far as suing innocent people. If they are so innocent as you are, they are not innocent.

I know the current finance policies are not from Ron.

As far as free speech is concerned. They are not posting that I should shut up, and that despite that I claim that they are infiltrated and therefore not only a garden of good but also one of evil.

I noticed that ARS, the Scientology attackers try to deny my right of freedom of speech by campaigning against me.

> >
> > You apparently have a problem duplicating. I wrote you before that you
> > should read the former 79 installments in this series. The proof, that
> > Germany has still a Nazi government is right in there.
> >
> > Note also, that I don't want to meet you nor any of your friends. If
> > they are like you, they are like German GESTAPO anyway. What did the
> > still existing German Nazi secret service offer you in exchange for
> > defending their Nazi honor? Help with your car payments?
>
> I find that unfunny, dear.

Me too, it is very not funny to work secretly for the Germans. They have access to your ear implants, and that is how they get you to work for them.

>
> >
> > The USA started and lost the Vietnam war, because the United States
> > was already secretly German infiltrated. It's their product. It's also
> > possible that we lost the war, because Barb Graham made the
> > translations.
>
> Why would we LOSE a war against the Nazi's sworn enemy (Communists) because
> of Nazi infiltration? You seem to make much of the power of these so-called
> Nazi's, but you claim we lost a war because of them (something that harkens
> back to Hitler's claim that Germany lost WWI because of Jews).

The communists were no Nazi sworn enemies. That was just a spectacle. Communism is a German invention. Remember, the Communist Manifesto was written by Marx and Engels, two GERMANS! The Germans walk any secret path there is to get back at the USA and to secretly attack it, with any nation there is. As long a people are so blind as you, PSn, the Germans will have a lot of power, because people just don't see them where they are and what atrocities they continue to commit. Germany lost the war, because they have a way to make their own agents feel bad, by gassing so many people and provoking the rest of the world with their inhumanities. But they still run those other nations, the many people know that they are runned by them, others think they are not runned by them. But they are too.

> >
> > The world is infiltrated since a very long time, and just because the
> > Germans lost WW II doesn't mean that they gave up their criminal
> > infiltration positions in other governments or any of their sick
> > ideas. (You still have not studied what was going on in Operation
> > Paperclip and why that the Gehlen Nazy Spy Ring was never dismantled,
> > don't you?)
>
> Oh, I know a ton about Paperclip and MK-ULTRA and such. Of course, you'll
> believe it's because of my Gestapo connections and some other bullshit
> nonsense. You won't even consider it as part of my own personal studies or
> anything in any shape or form related to 20th Century History classes I
> take.

But you don't seem to have understood what you allegedly studied. >
> >What do you learn in your college anyway, except the false
> > information, that the culture (do you mean the Germans?) turned
> > around?
>
> I learn that an organization that claims scientific basis for its processes
> with no scientific proof, that supresses any negative speech, kills its own
> members and destroys families for its own profit, whose motto is "Make
> Money, Make More Money", and whose own texts instruct them on how to inject
> themselves into organization and spread Scientology through "management
> technology" has got to have something wrong.

I answered that already before. You blame secret German Nazi infiltration of an American religion, Scientology, that was very good and still could be very good. The scientific proof also existed, but was stolen by the infiltrators. >
> If you'll notice, I don't toss around labels like "Nazi" or "Gestapo" in
> that above statement. That up there is the sum of my whole platform in
> dealing with Scientology. I don't have conspiracy theories with
> Scientology. I don't have wacky underground beliefs about how the
> Scientology is an extension of the Nazi party, or L. Ron was a Freemason, or
> Miscavaige is a member of the CFR, Trilateral Commission or the Illuminati.
> I don't play in those games, dear. I don't look for boogeymen around every
> corner. I live my life and I stand against those who wish to do bad things.
> Prove to me that Scientology is anything more than a crock shop with a good
> legal department and that it doesn't suppress free speech and kill people
> and you'll never hear a word from me again on this newsgroup. Hell, I'd
> even give auditing a shot. But until then, I have to be where I am now. My
> broke-ass car with loose oil gaskets, a broken windshield and a XENU.NET
> bumpersticker in the back window.

You mix a lot up there. It's your non-developed IQ that make you not see the infiltration of SCN. Scientology is no extension of the Nazi party, but your mindcontroller system, the system that runs you though ear implants is. L. Ron Hubbard was no freemason. He was/is a Scientologist. I don't have to prove anything to you, PSn. I just tell you to get smarter on your own.

>
> > It's a lie. I heard it so often from Germans that Hitler was a good
> > man and his ideas were wonderful, the Jews and the Scientologists are
> > the bad people, and that they deserved what ever is done against them.
> >
> > I have to end this now. I have no time nor agenda to try to convince a
> > retarded guy like you or the other hecklers from the truth.
> >
>
> If you have no time, then why do you write long, drawn out posts about the
> Nazi conspiracy?

I wrote about my life, and some peoples lives were negatively influenced by RB's and others Germans and the Germans governments outrageous criminal activities. They have a right to know. You choose to reply insulting, I replied, but I sure hope you get another hobby, because I have other things to do. >
> > You are trying to grow a small Hitler moustache yourself?
> >
> > Just a final word: You posted yourself that saying in Germany that
> > Germans are still Nazis will get you arrested. From my former
> > installments you know that the Germans did any rotten thing to me
> > there is, also shorten my lifespan, the only thing they did not yet,
> > is murdering me.
> >
> > You wrote, that I should go to Germany and say that they are still
> > Nazis. (I did that, and that is why I had to flee.) By trying to lure
> > me to Germany, you are trying to be an accomplish in my murder.
>
> So you are admitting to a criminal background? Pretty big step for a
> Scientologist.

You twisting everything around, just as the Nazis do. What is criminal about my background? That I had to flee from Germany to save my life because I am a Scientologist? >
> >You
> > are one "fine" person. I bet you were a German in your pastlife. You
> > are everything else than an American in your attitude. The Germans
> > steal real Americans and give them out as their own. How about we
> > giving you back to the Germans (still existing Nazis) and get the true
> > Americans back in exchange?
> >
>
> I love that. What exactly do you do for the US? I'd honestly like to know.
> I'm joining the military soon myself, but I'd like to know what you do for
> the US?
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> You know you'd got the perfect con, when you can scam people into giving you
> massive amounts of money in exchange for little substance and convince them
> that anyone critical of it is the criminal (Or a Nazi).
>
> PSn

I have to go. Get an IQ, PNs. That you are missing. Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: Part 80: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 25 Apr 2003 09:39:19 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304250839.49cbf4b6@posting.google.com>

BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz) wrote in message news:<a6bc00a0.0304240922.40f60602@posting.google.com>... > "PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<57ednQncqp6flDqjXTWcpQ@comcast.com>...
> > "BarbaraSchwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:a6bc00a0.0304230854.6def858e@posting.google.com...
> > > "PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<csOdnb7ThqMpZjijXTWcpw@comcast.com>...
> > > > > I honestly ask you, what is your name? Why do you post anonymously?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Those who are trustworthy enough to know my name know it. People who I
> can
> > > > trust not to sell me out to Scientology, Inc. can know my name. You
> can't.
> > > > I post anonymously for the same reasons that many others have wrote
> > > > anonymous works while in fear of their livelihoods from oppressive
> groups.
> > > > I fear Scientology, Inc., mainly because it spends more in one year on
> their
> > > > lawyers than my entire family has made in the past ten years. I fear
> > > > Scientology because I barely make enough money as a student, to pay for
> my
> > > > car, let alone enough money to fight a multinational corporate entity
> that
> > > > has no sympathy even for its own members.
> > > >
> > > > > You want me to answer you honestly if I ever LIVED in Germany? You
> > > > > posted that you would read my postings, how come you missed the
> > > > > foregoing 79 installments of this series?
> > > >
> > > > Well, you also claim to live in a dust-free dome and think Xenu is still
> in
> > > > a electronic fortress in a mountain.
> > > >
> > > > >Your question is answered
> > > > > right in those sequels. I urge you to read this series in full,
> > > > > because you postings about the Germans are very very unqualified.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > My postings are quite qualified. I lived there for several years, and
> all I
> > > > found were a friendly people. It's odd that only Scientologists seem to
> > > > believe that Germany is a Nazi-controlled state.
> > > >
> > > > > But I will also answer that question here. Did I ever live in Germany?
> > > > > The answer is: no. I SUFFERED for approximately 30 years in Germany!
> > > >
> > > > 30 years? How old are you?
> > > >
> > > > > And that thanks to the still active German NAZIs, which are not just
> > > > > skin heads, the next door neighbors, but the German government and
> > > > > it's psychiatrists, and also other people in all levels of the German
> > > > > society.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Name names and give proof. List sources other than yourself. When you
> make
> > > > a claim that radical, you should give some evidence. Accusations with
> no
> > > > substance is slander/libel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I was there. Who in the world channelled in your ear drums that the
> > > > > Germans are so innocent now, just because they lost WW II. What do
> you
> > > > > think made that brutal folk to saints? The loss of a war? It made them
> > > > > just more covertly hateful. The Germans should have needed education
> > > > > to evolve from the mean beast in humans. They did not get that. They
> > > > > are still the beast.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, there were also several decades of foreign control/occupation. In
> > > > addition, our culture lost Vietnam. Trace back from the 50's and you'll
> see
> > > > how quickly a culture can turn around.
> > > >
> > > > It also doesn't help to prove that you're not racist by referring to an
> > > > entire group of people as animals, or as you put it, "beast".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PSn
> > >
> > >
> > > I have no time and also don't see the need to respond to each Nazi
> > > heckler that replies to my postings, so I just concentrate briefly on
> > > you, cowardly and anyonymous PSn.
> > > The only reason you post anonymous is, because you, like other
> > > anonymous posters, feel easier spreading your lies and hatred around.
> > > If you have no dirty hands, no crimes to hide, why would you be afraid
> > > if Scientologist knows your name? You fear Scientology, because your
> > > accussations and attacks against Scientology are unbased, are
> > > criminal, and you know that.
> >
> > I know that when I was with a group of picketers near a Scientology Org, the
> > Scientologist handlers resorted to nearly every technique except direct
> > physical assault to drive them away. The tactics I saw in use were
> > extremely similar to the tactics used on Civil Rights protestors of the
> > 1950's-1960's.
>
> You have no right to disturb a religious community with your German
> originated and controlled hate campaign near the orgs. You are lucky
> that I am not more staff in the orgs, because I would have hosed you
> with a river of water back in your own neighborhood. You were not even
> in this body, not born, in the 1950s and 60s. What do you know about
> that time, except, nothing? You are denying the civil rights of
> Scientologists, by closing in on their religious communities.
>
> >
> > I also know that Scientology has no explanation for many of the unexplained
> > deaths that have taken place around their organization.
>
> You couldn't be more unspecific here, couldn't you? I wrote before
> over and over that the Scientology orgs are infiltrated by people or
> your kind, PNs. Criminal infiltrators and non-Sciedntologists. I run
> in them myself, complete and very rotten wogs. They are capable of
> anything, but they are no Scio's. They just lie and say they are to
> not lose their position to infiltrate and destroy from the inside out.
>
> >
> > > I am not afraid of Scientology at all. Not of any Scientologist there
> > > is.
> >
> > Of course you're not. As long as you parrot their propaganda, you'll never
> > have to fear anything from them...unless you try to marry someone close to
> > L. Ron or decide that the Truman Show isn't what you like.
>
> I claim that Scientology is infiltrated. I claim that David Miscavige
> took Scientology over with a forged affidavit of L. Ron Hubbard. I
> claim that the man who died 1986 wasn't L. Ron Hubbard, that his
> murder was covered up. That is not exactly what D. Miscavige, the
> leader of SCN want me to say, isn't it?
>
> > >And I even claim that the orgs are illegally infiltrated by
> > > non-Scientologists, people of your kind, PSn.
> >
> > Do you even know "my kind"? Do you even know why I'm here? Where I come
> > from? What I do? What exactly do you think you know about me?
>
> Well, you are not very open with any information, aren't you? You try
> to conceal even what your name is. What I do from you is that you are
> apprently very young, very stupid, very German mindcontrolled. I know
> you from your postings. It's all in there.
>
> >
> > >You are afraid that
> > > Scientology sues you for money? If you would not lie and spread hate
> > > about Scientology, they could not do anything to you. A judge would
> > > simply rule that you committed no crime and that the orgs have to pay
> > > the bills. But you know you are lying and spreading falsehoods, that
> > > is why you are afraid.
> >
> > No, check out RTC vs. Lerma sometime. Scientology lost the case, but it
> > still cost Mr. Lerma a ton of cash. You see, in court, well-trained lawyers
> > know tons of neat little tricks and games they can play that can easily cost
> > you a case, if you yourself do not have a lawyer. Lawyers cost money.
> > Money I don't have.
>
> I don't have the money either. I surely know that lawyers are using
> dirty tricks, but if you don't lie about others, if you don't deny
> others their religious freedom, if you don't commit other crimes, it
> is really hard on them to pin you down with something. You also don't
> need lawyers to defend yourself. You can defend yourself in court. Law
> is not that difficult to understand.
>
> >
> > >
> > > You post like a student, a guy who still thinks like a stupid child
> > > and not like an adult. How old I am? Not as old as Barb Graham, but
> > > with a lot more life experience as you.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, yes, it's an insult to call oneself a student. That's why your beloved
> > L. Ron referred to himself as a student of humanity. But again, your own
> > anonymous attitude comes forward. I should note that student can reference
> > any age group. Just so you know.
>
> Ron did not belittle himself and called him a "student of humanity".
> Scientology infiltrators made that statement up as so many, to make
> him look smaller than he is.
> I have nothing against students, but I have something against socalled
> American students that kiss German Nazi behinds by working secretly
> for them.
> What do you study? Did you get false good grade through the help of
> your case officer, who channelled you what to say and write through
> exams and tests? What part in the American society do you plan to
> occupy with your missing IQ?
>
> >
> > > You lived in Germany for several years? Where exactly? As you are so
> > > young, if you ever were over there, how little were you?
> >
> > I lived in Frankfurt. And since you will not give me the courtesy of your
> > age, why should I extend the same courtesy to you?
>
> My age is posted in my former installments in this series. I don't
> know my actual age. I was kidnapped from the USA and was given the
> identity of another girl, remember? Have you ever heard that it is
> unpolite to ask a lady for her age? I am not wrinkled yet, and I bet I
> am a lot prettier than you with your acne sprinkled teenager face. I
> also don't smoke my beauty away as Barb Graham. Is she ever was pretty
> on the outside, she surely wasn't ever on the inside.
>
> You lived in Frankfurt? In an American Army Unit where you just saw
> the Germans a few times on the outside?
>
> >
> > >What does a
> > > kid as you know about the Nazis, except finding them chic and finding
> > > it cool to defend them? I don't know what nationality you have, but
> > > your own country has no reason to be proud of you.
> >
> > Rom have no country, but I do live in America.
>
> You claim to be a Roma? I gypsy? And you say you were welcome in
> Germany? I can't believe it? Did you ever mention that you were a
> gypsy or did you hide that from them? You are really traitor of your
> own race, if you claim that Germany is not more Anti-gypsy in these
> days.
>
> >
> > >Don't claim you are
> > > an American. You are a traitor.
> >
> > Give a specific example where you have seen me give aid and comfort to the
> > enemy? I forgot, you're the Anti-Social Personality that Hubbard discussed.
> > Speaking in generalities and never giving specifics.
>
> All your very own postings in this thread are examples how you comfort
> the Germans, which are still very much the enemies of not only the
> Jews and the Scio's, but also other Americans.
> Suddenly you believe L. Ron Hubbard?
> You are the one who is not specific and speaks in generalities.
>
> You remind me to the American Taiban kid Walker Lind. When he got that
> the USA would bust Taliban, Al Queda and Bin Laden, he surely also
> must have felt shudders down his spine, just as you do, when I claim
> that the current German government is still a Nazi government.
> >
> > >Why did you not stay in still existing
> > > Nazi Germany? They like corrupt fools as you are, that is why they
> > > treated you well. (They probably gave you lollipops to make your teeth
> > > fall out, that is what you call good treatment?)
> > > How can an American "feel shudders" by Nazi critic, if not a secret
> > > Nazi himself?
> >
> > I left Germany because I decided to live closer to my mother. I feel
> > shudders when I see that you declare anyone contrary to you as a Nazi
> > sympathizer. It's like the McCarthy era in your mind, except you see Nazis
> > around ever corner rather than Communists.
>
> McCarthy was a German Nazi agent, put up by the Germans to make the
> communists get the rap, and to conceal that the Germans are those that
> infiltrate the government. He behaved like a bully on German secret
> service orders to take the appetite of the Americans and congress to
> go after the real infiltrators of the USA, the Germans.
> I don't declare people which are no Nazi sympathizer as such. But you
> are one, you wrote it yourself. You declare me to be a racist, just by
> writing my story about the abuse I suffered in the hands of the
> Germans.
>
> >
> > >
> > > That of all the people in the world it is you, who claims that
> > > accusations without no substance is libel and slander, is
> > > unbelieveable.
> >
> > The evidence that Scientology has at the very least murdered Susan Meister
> > is out there. Look at the evidence and tell me she wasn't murdered without
> > lying.
>
> I have not studied her case. But as I told, Scientology orgs are
> gardens of good and evil. There are the Scientologists, which are
> lawful and grant anybody else their rights and just want to live in
> peace, and there are the criminal international infiltrators, sent in
> by the German still existing Nazi secret service to destroy and
> provoke, to create problems. It is not beyond that secret service to
> also send murderers in the orgs.
>
> >
> > >You are using libel and slander against me, Scientology
> > > and also other Scientologists. You should first proof that your
> > > accussations against me and Scientology are the truth, before you ask
> > > me for proof.
> >
> > Is it untrue that you accuse the entire nation of Germany of being
> > lower-than-human ("Beast" as you put it)? Is it untrue that you are
> > leveling an accusation at an entire nation based on their ethnicity? Is it
> > untrue that Scientology has sued countless people for the simple reason that
> > they are critical of the organization, rather than the claims of "Copyright
> > Infringement"? Is it untrue the Scientology not only suppresses free
> > speech, but takes it further by financially and socially crippling those who
> > practice it against their company?
>
> I posted before, that if I would be German, I would rather find my
> Jewish roots than howling with the still existing Nazi beast. If you
> read my postings, I was rather talking about the German government and
> psychs while I was referring to still existing Nazis. I was not
> speaking about everybody in the population. Many of those must be
> re-incarnated Jews, people that were killed in the Concentration
> Camps. Many of the Germans come out of Jewish roots, they probably
> don't even know it, because their ancestors changed their religion and
> rase out of fear before the Nazis.
> It is true that the German government of our days, and many other
> Germans still are Nazis. I know that because they came after me and
> they revealed that either openly or covertly to me.
>
> Don't blame me for what Scientology infiltrators do in the orgs. I
> never wanted them there. However, as far as suing innocent people. If
> they are so innocent as you are, they are not innocent.
>
> I know the current finance policies are not from Ron.
>
> As far as free speech is concerned. They are not posting that I should
> shut up, and that despite that I claim that they are infiltrated and
> therefore not only a garden of good but also one of evil.
>
> I noticed that ARS, the Scientology attackers try to deny my right of
> freedom of speech by campaigning against me.
>
> > >
> > > You apparently have a problem duplicating. I wrote you before that you
> > > should read the former 79 installments in this series. The proof, that
> > > Germany has still a Nazi government is right in there.
> > >
> > > Note also, that I don't want to meet you nor any of your friends. If
> > > they are like you, they are like German GESTAPO anyway. What did the
> > > still existing German Nazi secret service offer you in exchange for
> > > defending their Nazi honor? Help with your car payments?
> >
> > I find that unfunny, dear.
>
> Me too, it is very not funny to work secretly for the Germans. They
> have access to your ear implants, and that is how they get you to work
> for them.
>
> >
> > >
> > > The USA started and lost the Vietnam war, because the United States
> > > was already secretly German infiltrated. It's their product. It's also
> > > possible that we lost the war, because Barb Graham made the
> > > translations.
> >
> > Why would we LOSE a war against the Nazi's sworn enemy (Communists) because
> > of Nazi infiltration? You seem to make much of the power of these so-called
> > Nazi's, but you claim we lost a war because of them (something that harkens
> > back to Hitler's claim that Germany lost WWI because of Jews).
>
> The communists were no Nazi sworn enemies. That was just a spectacle.
> Communism is a German invention. Remember, the Communist Manifesto was
> written by Marx and Engels, two GERMANS!
> The Germans walk any secret path there is to get back at the USA and
> to secretly attack it, with any nation there is.
> As long a people are so blind as you, PSn, the Germans will have a lot
> of power, because people just don't see them where they are and what
> atrocities they continue to commit.
> Germany lost the war, because they have a way to make their own agents
> feel bad, by gassing so many people and provoking the rest of the
> world with their inhumanities.
> But they still run those other nations, the many people know that they
> are runned by them, others think they are not runned by them. But they
> are too.
>
>
> > >
> > > The world is infiltrated since a very long time, and just because the
> > > Germans lost WW II doesn't mean that they gave up their criminal
> > > infiltration positions in other governments or any of their sick
> > > ideas. (You still have not studied what was going on in Operation
> > > Paperclip and why that the Gehlen Nazy Spy Ring was never dismantled,
> > > don't you?)
> >
> > Oh, I know a ton about Paperclip and MK-ULTRA and such. Of course, you'll
> > believe it's because of my Gestapo connections and some other bullshit
> > nonsense. You won't even consider it as part of my own personal studies or
> > anything in any shape or form related to 20th Century History classes I
> > take.
>
> But you don't seem to have understood what you allegedly studied.
> >
> > >What do you learn in your college anyway, except the false
> > > information, that the culture (do you mean the Germans?) turned
> > > around?
> >
> > I learn that an organization that claims scientific basis for its processes
> > with no scientific proof, that supresses any negative speech, kills its own
> > members and destroys families for its own profit, whose motto is "Make
> > Money, Make More Money", and whose own texts instruct them on how to inject
> > themselves into organization and spread Scientology through "management
> > technology" has got to have something wrong.
>
> I answered that already before. You blame secret German Nazi
> infiltration of an American religion, Scientology, that was very good
> and still could be very good. The scientific proof also existed, but
> was stolen by the infiltrators.
> >
> > If you'll notice, I don't toss around labels like "Nazi" or "Gestapo" in
> > that above statement. That up there is the sum of my whole platform in
> > dealing with Scientology. I don't have conspiracy theories with
> > Scientology. I don't have wacky underground beliefs about how the
> > Scientology is an extension of the Nazi party, or L. Ron was a Freemason, or
> > Miscavaige is a member of the CFR, Trilateral Commission or the Illuminati.
> > I don't play in those games, dear. I don't look for boogeymen around every
> > corner. I live my life and I stand against those who wish to do bad things.
> > Prove to me that Scientology is anything more than a crock shop with a good
> > legal department and that it doesn't suppress free speech and kill people
> > and you'll never hear a word from me again on this newsgroup. Hell, I'd
> > even give auditing a shot. But until then, I have to be where I am now. My
> > broke-ass car with loose oil gaskets, a broken windshield and a XENU.NET
> > bumpersticker in the back window.
>
> You mix a lot up there. It's your non-developed IQ that make you not
> see the infiltration of SCN. Scientology is no extension of the Nazi
> party, but your mindcontroller system, the system that runs you though
> ear implants is.
> L. Ron Hubbard was no freemason. He was/is a Scientologist.
> I don't have to prove anything to you, PSn. I just tell you to get
> smarter on your own.
>
> >
> > > It's a lie. I heard it so often from Germans that Hitler was a good
> > > man and his ideas were wonderful, the Jews and the Scientologists are
> > > the bad people, and that they deserved what ever is done against them.
> > >
> > > I have to end this now. I have no time nor agenda to try to convince a
> > > retarded guy like you or the other hecklers from the truth.
> > >
> >
> > If you have no time, then why do you write long, drawn out posts about the
> > Nazi conspiracy?
>
> I wrote about my life, and some peoples lives were negatively
> influenced by RB's and others Germans and the Germans governments
> outrageous criminal activities. They have a right to know. You choose
> to reply insulting, I replied, but I sure hope you get another hobby,
> because I have other things to do.
> >
> > > You are trying to grow a small Hitler moustache yourself?
> > >
> > > Just a final word: You posted yourself that saying in Germany that
> > > Germans are still Nazis will get you arrested. From my former
> > > installments you know that the Germans did any rotten thing to me
> > > there is, also shorten my lifespan, the only thing they did not yet,
> > > is murdering me.
> > >
> > > You wrote, that I should go to Germany and say that they are still
> > > Nazis. (I did that, and that is why I had to flee.) By trying to lure
> > > me to Germany, you are trying to be an accomplish in my murder.
> >
> > So you are admitting to a criminal background? Pretty big step for a
> > Scientologist.
>
> You twisting everything around, just as the Nazis do. What is criminal
> about my background? That I had to flee from Germany to save my life
> because I am a Scientologist?
> >
> > >You
> > > are one "fine" person. I bet you were a German in your pastlife. You
> > > are everything else than an American in your attitude. The Germans
> > > steal real Americans and give them out as their own. How about we
> > > giving you back to the Germans (still existing Nazis) and get the true
> > > Americans back in exchange?
> > >
> >
> > I love that. What exactly do you do for the US? I'd honestly like to know.
> > I'm joining the military soon myself, but I'd like to know what you do for
> > the US?
> >
> > > Barbara Schwarz
> >
> > You know you'd got the perfect con, when you can scam people into giving you
> > massive amounts of money in exchange for little substance and convince them
> > that anyone critical of it is the criminal (Or a Nazi).
> >
> > PSn
>
>
> I have to go. Get an IQ, PNs. That you are missing.
> Barbara Schwarz

I run out of time yesterday, but I want to answer to your last questions, PNs: you posted you want to join the Army. I would not want to fight with you in one in the same war, because you are so German friendly, that if we would have to fight them, you would let them come away. I also would not want to fight with you in the same war, because if somebody whispers you that the American soldier in front of you is a Scientologist, he might die in a "friendly fire".

What I do for the USA? I am working on convicting the secret German Nazi infiltration of the U.S. government (and other governments), their waste of tax payers money, their activities to endanger National Security. I am working to get them out of science, so that people have better lives and and a longer lifespan. I am working opening the eyes of people how illnesses and death are being ordered through ear implants. If you read my former postings, if you google my name, you will read more details hereto. I am working at it to end the hostilities against the USA, by pointing that they are German Nazi secret service ordered and organized. So, if I succeed, you perhaps don't ever have to fire a gun, and no wars will ever been necessary, because those will be convicted that provoke the wars or start the wars against peaceful people.

And once again: I had to flee Germany because I am a Scientologist, and I had the guts to speak out that they still have a Nazi goverment over there. That is my "crime". They threatened to get me committed, just because I dared to speak that out. This is the Germany that you defend. No freedom of speech whatsoever. You appear to know that, otherwise you would have not mention that saying the word "Nazi" in Germany gets you in hot water. In other words: They are still the Nazis, but nobody is allowed to say it, so that they are not discovered.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: BarbaraSchwarz impervious to logic!
Date: 25 Apr 2003 09:26:21 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304250826.299b5b2e@posting.google.com>

"PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2OicnbyNt8vnzzWjXTWcqA@comcast.com>... > BarbaraSchwarz, I only attack Scientology's criminal acts. I find some of
> its beliefs a bit goofy, but that's Scientology's stuff, let you guys deal
> with it. If you believe it's full of infiltrators, then you should stand
> with me in the call for those responsible to be punished, rather than
> arguing over your conspiracy theories. You add no content to the fight by
> labeling anyone who does not consent to your alternate reality as a Nazi. I
> don't see Nazis around every corner, probably because I generally accept the
> reality that most of humanity shares, rather than what you choose.
>
> If you are against the infiltrators, join the fight against the criminals,
> rather than the fight against those who fight against the criminals. Most
> people "against Scientology" really aren't against the religion itself. I
> myself couldn't give a wooden nickel about what Scientologists do inside
> their org. The moment they try to do stuff relating to altering public
> policy or other things, it begins to bother me. But if a group of people
> believe in paying $360,000 to find out about the Space Opera of Xenu, that's
> fine with me.
>
> I'm here because Scientology decided to mess with Google. They decided that
> Google shouldn't be an accurate search engine anymore and decided to
> threaten it. I'd have never even HEARD of Scientology, if it hadn't been
> for that. If you could go back and check the ARS archive, you'd notice I
> made my first appearance as "PresiaSan" very shortly after the Google
> debacle.
>
> Do what you want, Barbara. See ya down the road.
>
> PSn

According to your attacks against me, your above posting is not the truth. I can't stand with you, because you bother also those Scientologists that just want to live in peace and are not criminal at all. You are also deaf to the argument that Scientology material was re-written by the infiltrators. That is why some of it sounds "goofy", also to me, but I know it wasn't L. Ron Hubbard who wrote it.

The Germans did not just infiltrate Scientology. They infiltrated also governments, including the U.S. government. By not speaking that out, nobody will ever investigate that, and this is also why I don't follow you advise to bury my speech about infiltration and conspiracies, because they really exist.

I don't label anybody who doesn't agree with me a Nazi, only those that want to shut my free speech down, those that lie about me, to cover the still existing Nazi infiltrations and conspiracies up. Not seeing that is a case of servere blindness and ignorance.

What do you mean in Scientology is altering "public policy"? You really should be specific by making such an allegation.

Scientology has to get their infiltrators out and to go back to L. Ron Hubbard's original Scientology. He would have not cut off anybody's freedom of speech. He would also considered trying to close a newsgroup stupid, because as soon you close one, another one opens. So, what good should it do? If Scientology get the infiltrators out and goes back to it's basics, the attackers would run out of steam, because there is nothing to attack.

However, the problem that you cited, denial of free speech is what I have to battle in this newsgroup. There is Barb Graham, the cheap and fanatical "chaplain" of ARS, who threatens me and who calls the library in which I post to deny me access to the Internet. - There is Pedro Freudenberg, who calls me Eva Braun, despite I posted against the Nazis and wants me committed. There is Dave Shy and Norle, and others, which are just like them.

They have no right to use critic on Scientology for trying to shut them up, by being themselves not a shred better. This is also evidence that Scientology is infiltrated by the same kind of people that attack them. They are inside and outside of the orgs, and one of their tools is to deny freedom of speech with their criminal campaigns.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Re: BarbaraSchwarz impervious to logic!
Date: 26 Apr 2003 10:01:36 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304260901.4495237a@posting.google.com>

barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3EA96A12.8090302@cox.net>... > BarbaraSchwarz wrote:
> > "PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2OicnbyNt8vnzzWjXTWcqA@comcast.com>...
> >
> >>BarbaraSchwarz, I only attack Scientology's criminal acts. I find some of
> >>its beliefs a bit goofy, but that's Scientology's stuff, let you guys deal
> >>with it. If you believe it's full of infiltrators, then you should stand
> >>with me in the call for those responsible to be punished, rather than
> >>arguing over your conspiracy theories. You add no content to the fight by
> >>labeling anyone who does not consent to your alternate reality as a Nazi. I
> >>don't see Nazis around every corner, probably because I generally accept the
> >>reality that most of humanity shares, rather than what you choose.
> >>
> >>If you are against the infiltrators, join the fight against the criminals,
> >>rather than the fight against those who fight against the criminals. Most
> >>people "against Scientology" really aren't against the religion itself. I
> >>myself couldn't give a wooden nickel about what Scientologists do inside
> >>their org. The moment they try to do stuff relating to altering public
> >>policy or other things, it begins to bother me. But if a group of people
> >>believe in paying $360,000 to find out about the Space Opera of Xenu, that's
> >>fine with me.
> >>
> >>I'm here because Scientology decided to mess with Google. They decided that
> >>Google shouldn't be an accurate search engine anymore and decided to
> >>threaten it. I'd have never even HEARD of Scientology, if it hadn't been
> >>for that. If you could go back and check the ARS archive, you'd notice I
> >>made my first appearance as "PresiaSan" very shortly after the Google
> >>debacle.
> >>
> >>Do what you want, Barbara. See ya down the road.
> >>
> >>PSn
> >
> >
> > According to your attacks against me, your above posting is not the
> > truth.
> > I can't stand with you, because you bother also those Scientologists
> > that just want to live in peace and are not criminal at all.
> > You are also deaf to the argument that Scientology material was
> > re-written by the infiltrators. That is why some of it sounds "goofy",
> > also to me, but I know it wasn't L. Ron Hubbard who wrote it.
> >
> > The Germans did not just infiltrate Scientology. They infiltrated also
> > governments, including the U.S. government. By not speaking that out,
> > nobody will ever investigate that, and this is also why I don't follow
> > you advise to bury my speech about infiltration and conspiracies,
> > because they really exist.
> >
> > I don't label anybody who doesn't agree with me a Nazi, only those
> > that want to shut my free speech down, those that lie about me, to
> > cover the still existing Nazi infiltrations and conspiracies up. Not
> > seeing that is a case of servere blindness and ignorance.
> >
> > What do you mean in Scientology is altering "public policy"? You
> > really should be specific by making such an allegation.
> >
> > Scientology has to get their infiltrators out and to go back to L. Ron
> > Hubbard's original Scientology. He would have not cut off anybody's
> > freedom of speech. He would also considered trying to close a
> > newsgroup stupid, because as soon you close one, another one opens.
> > So, what good should it do? If Scientology get the infiltrators out
> > and goes back to it's basics, the attackers would run out of steam,
> > because there is nothing to attack.
> >
> > However, the problem that you cited, denial of free speech is what I
> > have to battle in this newsgroup. There is Barb Graham, the cheap and
> > fanatical "chaplain" of ARS, who threatens me and who calls the
> > library in which I post to deny me access to the Internet. - There is
> > Pedro Freudenberg, who calls me Eva Braun, despite I posted against
> > the Nazis and wants me committed. There is Dave Shy and Norle, and
> > others, which are just like them.
> >
> > They have no right to use critic on Scientology for trying to shut
> > them up, by being themselves not a shred better.
> > This is also evidence that Scientology is infiltrated by the same kind
> > of people that attack them. They are inside and outside of the orgs,
> > and one of their tools is to deny freedom of speech with their
> > criminal campaigns.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> You have no right to libel people, and you'd better learn that well. You
> stated that you don't know me. Your accusations of treasonous behavior
> and illicit drug use are unacceptable and will not be tolerated. I will
> indeed call the library again if you keep it up. I have no doubt that,
> eventually they will tire of my complaints of your online antics and ask
> you to please not come back. Perhaps they will kindly warn you not to
> let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
>
> I don't care about your numerous posts outlining your (ahem) unique
> world view. Leave me out of it, however. I have no tolerance for false
> accusations from you or anybody else.
>
> It's quite simple. If you want to continue enjoying the library's
> facilities, you must stop these personal attacks and accusations.
> Otherwise, I'm going to get medieval on your ass! Get it?
>
> --

You are the person that started to attack me, I did not even know of you. You tried to deny my right for free speech on Google by starting to open a campaign against me. I documented all the libel and slander you use on me. You also try to put words in my mouth that I never said. Feel free to do whatever you want, Barb Graham, but bothering the librarians to deny me access will back fire. It would be that you end up in troubles because they will not take it anymore. To me it appears as if you would think that librarians can't read. I bet, if you called or contacted them to deny my right for free speech, you Nazi, they googled your name and know all about you. No wonder that anybody in the library mentioned even your name to me. They will likely sue you, if you continue to harass them with your calls. I also would sue you, if you would succeed with denying my free speech, and you would lose that in a landslide. Remember also that: Nobody here likes addicted smokers, Barb Graham. This here is Utah, and honestly, as I know the librarians here, they would be appalled by your kind of language.

Barbara Schwarz

<hr> Message-ID: <3EAAC727.4050608@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:51:35 -0700
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: BarbaraSchwarz impervious to logic!

BarbaraSchwarz wrote: > barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3EA96A12.8090302@cox.net>...
>
>>BarbaraSchwarz wrote:
>>
>>>"PSn" <benalishsiward.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2OicnbyNt8vnzzWjXTWcqA@comcast.com>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>BarbaraSchwarz, I only attack Scientology's criminal acts. I find some of
>>>>its beliefs a bit goofy, but that's Scientology's stuff, let you guys deal
>>>>with it. If you believe it's full of infiltrators, then you should stand
>>>>with me in the call for those responsible to be punished, rather than
>>>>arguing over your conspiracy theories. You add no content to the fight by
>>>>labeling anyone who does not consent to your alternate reality as a Nazi. I
>>>>don't see Nazis around every corner, probably because I generally accept the
>>>>reality that most of humanity shares, rather than what you choose.
>>>>
>>>>If you are against the infiltrators, join the fight against the criminals,
>>>>rather than the fight against those who fight against the criminals. Most
>>>>people "against Scientology" really aren't against the religion itself. I
>>>>myself couldn't give a wooden nickel about what Scientologists do inside
>>>>their org. The moment they try to do stuff relating to altering public
>>>>policy or other things, it begins to bother me. But if a group of people
>>>>believe in paying $360,000 to find out about the Space Opera of Xenu, that's
>>>>fine with me.
>>>>
>>>>I'm here because Scientology decided to mess with Google. They decided that
>>>>Google shouldn't be an accurate search engine anymore and decided to
>>>>threaten it. I'd have never even HEARD of Scientology, if it hadn't been
>>>>for that. If you could go back and check the ARS archive, you'd notice I
>>>>made my first appearance as "PresiaSan" very shortly after the Google
>>>>debacle.
>>>>
>>>>Do what you want, Barbara. See ya down the road.
>>>>
>>>>PSn
>>>
>>>
>>>According to your attacks against me, your above posting is not the
>>>truth.
>>>I can't stand with you, because you bother also those Scientologists
>>>that just want to live in peace and are not criminal at all.
>>>You are also deaf to the argument that Scientology material was
>>>re-written by the infiltrators. That is why some of it sounds "goofy",
>>>also to me, but I know it wasn't L. Ron Hubbard who wrote it.
>>>
>>>The Germans did not just infiltrate Scientology. They infiltrated also
>>>governments, including the U.S. government. By not speaking that out,
>>>nobody will ever investigate that, and this is also why I don't follow
>>>you advise to bury my speech about infiltration and conspiracies,
>>>because they really exist.
>>>
>>>I don't label anybody who doesn't agree with me a Nazi, only those
>>>that want to shut my free speech down, those that lie about me, to
>>>cover the still existing Nazi infiltrations and conspiracies up. Not
>>>seeing that is a case of servere blindness and ignorance.
>>>
>>>What do you mean in Scientology is altering "public policy"? You
>>>really should be specific by making such an allegation.
>>>
>>>Scientology has to get their infiltrators out and to go back to L. Ron
>>>Hubbard's original Scientology. He would have not cut off anybody's
>>>freedom of speech. He would also considered trying to close a
>>>newsgroup stupid, because as soon you close one, another one opens.
>>>So, what good should it do? If Scientology get the infiltrators out
>>>and goes back to it's basics, the attackers would run out of steam,
>>>because there is nothing to attack.
>>>
>>>However, the problem that you cited, denial of free speech is what I
>>>have to battle in this newsgroup. There is Barb Graham, the cheap and
>>>fanatical "chaplain" of ARS, who threatens me and who calls the
>>>library in which I post to deny me access to the Internet. - There is
>>>Pedro Freudenberg, who calls me Eva Braun, despite I posted against
>>>the Nazis and wants me committed. There is Dave Shy and Norle, and
>>>others, which are just like them.
>>>
>>>They have no right to use critic on Scientology for trying to shut
>>>them up, by being themselves not a shred better.
>>>This is also evidence that Scientology is infiltrated by the same kind
>>>of people that attack them. They are inside and outside of the orgs,
>>>and one of their tools is to deny freedom of speech with their
>>>criminal campaigns.
>>>
>>>Barbara Schwarz
>>
>>You have no right to libel people, and you'd better learn that well. You
>>stated that you don't know me. Your accusations of treasonous behavior
>>and illicit drug use are unacceptable and will not be tolerated. I will
>>indeed call the library again if you keep it up. I have no doubt that,
>>eventually they will tire of my complaints of your online antics and ask
>>you to please not come back. Perhaps they will kindly warn you not to
>>let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
>>
>>I don't care about your numerous posts outlining your (ahem) unique
>>world view. Leave me out of it, however. I have no tolerance for false
>>accusations from you or anybody else.
>>
>>It's quite simple. If you want to continue enjoying the library's
>>facilities, you must stop these personal attacks and accusations.
>>Otherwise, I'm going to get medieval on your ass! Get it?
>>
>>--
>
>
> You are the person that started to attack me, I did not even know of
> you. You tried to deny my right for free speech on Google by starting
> to open a campaign against me. I documented all the libel and slander
> you use on me.
> You also try to put words in my mouth that I never said.

Proof?

> Feel free to do whatever you want, Barb Graham, but bothering the
> librarians to deny me access will back fire. It would be that you end
> up in troubles because they will not take it anymore.
> To me it appears as if you would think that librarians can't read. I
> bet, if you called or contacted them to deny my right for free speech,
> you Nazi, they googled your name and know all about you.

From <snicker> the Religious Freedumbwatch website? It appears as if you think librarians don't know a transparant attempt to discredit a person by scraping together a steaming pile of undocumented assertions and innuendo, and that site is nothing but that! Perhaps they'll learn all about my seekrit voodoo skills, along with all the other stupid stuff your cult made up about me.

No wonder > that anybody in the library mentioned even your name to me.

Are you kidding? Of course they wouldn't! Giving the name of a complainant to an obviously unbalanced individual could cause them grief in the future, should that person ever decide to abandon ridiculous accusations in favor of physical assault. They will > likely sue you, if you continue to harass them with your calls.
> I also would sue you, if you would succeed with denying my free
> speech, and you would lose that in a landslide.

Pay attention, Babs. My comments about your mental state stem from your own posts about ear implants, etc, coupled with your weird legal history. Your own record of litigious behavior, and your queer rants about Hubbard, Eisenhower, Nazi controllers, ear implants and Marty Rathbun (de Rothschilde) are your worst liability.

The accusations you have made against me are based on nothing but your own imagination, are groundless and defamatory. You know nothing tangible about my military or personal history.

> Remember also that: Nobody here likes addicted smokers, Barb Graham.
> This here is Utah, and honestly, as I know the librarians here, they
> would be appalled by your kind of language.

Who says I'm addicted? I can quit any time I want to! (lol) I'm sure my language appalls a number of people, but it's personal expression and doesn't reflect on you or anyone else. Your language is libellous, not to mention rancorous and delusional, and appears to be something out of your control.

I am not trying to deny your right to free speech. I reiterate, you do NOT have the right to libel people at will. Free speech doesn't mean I can say you have seven decapitated heads in your fridge, that would be libel. It's a false accusation, as I've never seen the inside of your fridge, nor do I know if you even possess such an appliance. Same with your comments about my military service. You don't know anything about it. I highly recommend that you cease making comments about me as if they were fact, when they are merely products of your imagination. The library staff are going to get pretty sick of my complaints. You segued from accusations of drug abuse to accusations of treason. What's next? Is there more you'd like to attack me on? Point by point, I will complain every time you cross the line between truth and fantasy where my reputation is concerned. At some point, you'll become such a source of trouble to the library, I expect they'll have to yank your computer privileges. What then? Will you be reduced to soliciting spare change on street corners so you can afford to abuse the services of a cyber-cafe?

>
> Barbara Schwarz

-- -- barb Chaplain, ARS

"After over 50 years, what has Scientology given the world? Misery, hopelessness, broken families, desolation, death." -Shydavid

<hr> From: ShyDavid
Subject: Re: BarbaraSchwarz impervious to logic!
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:49:44 GMT
Message-ID: <3eac2641@news2.lightlink.com>

On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:51:35 -0700, barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote:

> BarbaraSchwarz wrote:

[Lots of psycho schizo ravings]

> > You are the person that started to attack me, I did not even know of
> > you. You tried to deny my right for free speech on Google by starting
> > to open a campaign against me. I documented all the libel and slander
> > you use on me.

Truth isn't libel. Truth isn't slander.

> > You also try to put words in my mouth that I never said.

> Proof?

She doesn't have any.

> > I also would sue you, if you would succeed with denying my free
> > speech, and you would lose that in a landslide.

"Free speech" doesn't include the right to accure Xenu-Barb of treason and prohibition drug use.

> Pay attention, Babs. My comments about your mental state stem from your
> own posts about ear implants, etc, coupled with your weird legal
> history. Your own record of litigious behavior, and your queer rants
> about Hubbard, Eisenhower, Nazi controllers, ear implants and Marty
> Rathbun (de Rothschilde) are your worst liability.

I'll happily provide to the Salt Lake City Library a print-out of Psycho-Barb's contributions to this newsgroup (I've been collecting them since December 2002). Mentioning the opinion that Psych-Barb is crazy is about as "slanderous" and "libelous" as mentioning the opinion that the sun appears to rise in the east every morning.

1,951 03-20-02 6:05p schwarzsm.htm 224,642 12-02-02 11:32a barbara-schwarz.htm 281,706 12-21-02 3:30p barbara-schwarz2.htm 156,763 01-03-03 7:33p barbara-schwarz3.htm 189,226 01-27-03 5:46p BarbaraSchwarz3.htm 13,942 02-16-03 12:37a barbaraschwarz4.htm 51,989 03-03-03 10:23p BarbaraSchwarz5.htm 461,224 04-27-03 11:36a BarbaraSchwarz6.htm

> The accusations you have made against me are based on nothing but your
> own imagination, are groundless and defamatory. You know nothing
> tangible about my military or personal history.

I seems to me that Psycho-Barb has been attacking Xenu-Barb out of a sense of jealousy. Psycho-Barb is filled with angst that ANOTHER *BARB* is posting to the newsgroup.

>> Remember also that: Nobody here likes addicted smokers, Barb Graham.

Psycho-Barb first accused Xenu-Barb of smoking a drug other than tobacco: a drug that is illegal in the USA to posess.

> > This here is Utah, and honestly, as I know the librarians here, they
> > would be appalled by your kind of language.

LOL!

> Who says I'm addicted? I can quit any time I want to! (lol)
> I'm sure my language appalls a number of people, but it's personal
> expression and doesn't reflect on you or anyone else. Your language is
> libellous, not to mention rancorous and delusional, and appears to be
> something out of your control.

Alas, I am not convinced that Psycho-Barb is harmless.

> I am not trying to deny your right to free speech. I reiterate, you do
> NOT have the right to libel people at will. Free speech doesn't mean I
> can say you have seven decapitated heads in your fridge, that would be
> libel. It's a false accusation, as I've never seen the inside of your
> fridge, nor do I know if you even possess such an appliance. Same with
> your comments about my military service. You don't know anything about
> it. I highly recommend that you cease making comments about me as if
> they were fact, when they are merely products of your imagination. The
> library staff are going to get pretty sick of my complaints. You segued
> from accusations of drug abuse to accusations of treason. What's next?
> Is there more you'd like to attack me on? Point by point, I will
> complain every time you cross the line between truth and fantasy where
> my reputation is concerned. At some point, you'll become such a source
> of trouble to the library, I expect they'll have to yank your computer
> privileges. What then? Will you be reduced to soliciting spare change on
> street corners so you can afford to abuse the services of a cyber-cafe?

As you so well pointed out: Psycho-Barb does not have a Constitutionally recognized right to call you a traitor, nor call you addicted to a proscribed (illegal) drug. Ordering Psycho-Barb to cease this civil abuse does not constitute "denial of free speach." Complaining to the Library is not an attack against Psycho-Barb's right to express her opinion.

> --
> barb
> Chaplain, ARS

--- Representative government in the USA represents money, not people, and therefore has forfeited our allegiance and moral support.

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Part 82: Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news!
Date: 26 Apr 2003 09:36:12 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304260836.6face95e@posting.google.com>

Recently, some people wanted to know how much time I spend on Google. Never Sundays, and otherwise only 1-2 hours the day. The other 22 remaining hours, I do something completely different. 1-2 hours is all the time I want to spend in that snakepit. How I manage to write long essays in that short time period and even have the time to slap Nazi hecklers on their wrists? I am very fast and very organized. That is my secret.

RB wrote again to me. She wrote, that Douglas Reynolds was the "traitor" in the deprogrammer group. Fact is: Reynolds is a guilty as the others, Cyril Vosper and John Matheson or Mathewson of kidnapping and degrogramming, because he was the one that lead my sister to the house, with me in the car, thinking that RB needed her Asthma medicine to not suffocate. He should have told me that I am lead in a trap. He was the one that closed the door behind me. He pysically restrained me and assaulted me just as Matheson did, by grabbing me and closing my mouth with their hands so that I could not scream for help.

Reynolds took money from the Scientology orgs to prevent deprogramming, but he actively worked to deprogram. He just got afraid during that ordeal, because I had slammed with my fists in the windows to escape, had deep cuts in my hands and everywhere was blood.

They started to deprogram me at noon, at approx. three o'clock Reynolds decided it became too bloody to come away for him, the man, who was paid to prevent such matters, so he told me in the brief moment we were alone, that he would inform Scientology as to what they do to me. At four o'clock Vosper arrived. He said, he thinks they owe me an apology, but he did not let me out either. Nobody called a doctor to see to my wounds, they just let me sit there bleeding and continued to "deprogram" me, telling me what a terrible thing Scientology is, by being the most terrible people there could be themselves.

The guy next door was a doctor. His house was just five foot away from the deprogramming house. He heard me scream for help, he heard the glass splitter, but he left the house with his family. He thought, it's just a Jew and a Scientologist getting what she "deserved". The person that rented the deprogramming house was also informed and a co-conspirator of the deprogramming, so was Haack, Heinemann, Rohmann, Gerke, Beneken and so many more. The German police, the court, the district attorney allowed the co-conspirator all to come away. No Nazi Germany anymore, yeah right!

John Matheson was the most dumb of all. He is the guy you normally find on death row. Reynolds came back in the evening and tried to get in the house. Matheson, the superfool, told him that he should not come in because they would progress in my "deprogramming". He was such an idiot. He did not progress. I just stopped screaming, because I was hoarse and noticed that the Nazi neighbors would not help me anyway. I also became calmer, because Reynolds said he would alarm the SCN orgs. I was basically sitting in there, waiting for my rescue, that is what Matheson took as "progress".

He blamed me on that blood got over his jeans. He looked me up, assaulted me, I tried to escape, got hurt, he blames me that blood stained his jeans. This guy is beyond belief. He had manners like an ape. His mother has no reason to be proud of this animal. Did she raise him in a pigstable?

He was an ex-Hare Krishna. Those Hare Krishna's which I met on the air port were a lot nicer and easier to take than what Matheson turned into: a violent, dangerous, lawless deprogrammer. They should have let him with the Hare Krishna's.

Pfarrer Friedrich Wilhelm Haack, whom RB called later, "the priest of lies", wrote an "expert statement" to the judge Gertrude Krautloher in Germany, the court in Starnberg. RB mailed me a copy of that statement. The weird judge asked him to write a statement, despite it was him, who told RB the first time about deprogramming. It was him who gave her that idea.

Haack wrote in that statement, that he participated in a conference in Barcelona, Spain, and asked the international participants if they believe that Reynolds had Scientology connections, and that they said, they assume he had. Fact is: He indeed had SCN connections, he was paid to prevent deprogramming, but was a traitor for Scientology and participated as long as he could. He just gave up, when he noticed that I rather would fight to my death, before I would accept their criminal methods to cut SCN out of me.

Haack mentioned in that statement that he is aware that the Munchner Abendzeitung, (one of Munich biggest papers) reported about that deprogramming attempt on November 19, 1987, page 39.

Haack wrote that a deprogramming takes between two days and almost a week. Fact is: How did the criminal Nazi pig knew that, if not involved in numerous such criminal activities?

Haack mentioned correspondence between RB and Vosper, Vosper and Matheson on me, but RB had not yet mailed me this correspondence.

Haack wrote, the mother of Matheson contacted him, to help his son, that his son was deprogrammed himself from the Hare Krishnas and then decided himself to become a deprogrammer. Fact is: Oh, my God. This is how it works. Deprogramming makes other deprogrammers. Deprogramming makes criminals. (Hey, thanks, Ms. Matheson for creating that deprogrammed monster, your son, and letting him lose to continue that crime spree and to get to me. I still suffer from the scars of this deprogramming attempt. What a luck, that this did not work on me, Ms. Matheson, otherwise I would be a criminal today,just like your son, and would kidnap and abuse and assault people of religions, that I just happen to dislike and would try to make money with that inhumane criminal activity.)

Haack wrote that Lady Daphne Vane and the MDE Cotell or Cotrell group (Haack typed as unclean as a gorilla) also contacted him on behalf of Matheson. ("Lady" Vane and you Cotrell or Cotell criminals: If you are still alive and did not die on result of your evil deed by contracting a deadly disease as Haack did, don't you ever develop something like a conscience? How far are you going to support criminal activities of Scientology attackers? How many new monsters do you want to create with your hatred? Matheson was outrageously gruesome, he assaulted me, he physically violated me, he took my liberty, he did not call a doctor to see to my wounds, he let the glass splinters in my hands and wrists, I was stitting there suffering and bleeding, and you decide that somebody should help that poor Matheson. You people are so twisted, it is the absolute shame!)

RB wrote with hands on that statement: "Crucifiction, crucifiction!". That was what the deprogramming was, but she failed to mentioned to write on it, how much she contributed to that crucifiction.

By the way, when the German police came finally at midnight, I had to tell the two officers several times to take me with them, despite that they saw that the house was a crime scene and that there was blood everywhere. At the police station every traffic violation had priority before my case. They did not drive me to a doctor either. At four o'clock in the morning, I could not stand the pain any longer. I demanded to see a doctor. They finally drove to an emergency room. The doctors removed the glass splinters, put something on my hands, which did not feel like medicine at all, rather like cream with new glass dust, and bandaged my hands and wrists.

They returned me to the police station, and did not arrest RB. She followed me immediately to the train station and continued with her deprogramming ideas right on that train ride. The police knew that we lived in the same flat and that I had no other place to go. I had to flee Germany, to get away from RB, because she just would not let me live me in peace. I had no way to relax. But this was the idea of the German Nazi secret service, who was in on that and helped to organize that. They wanted me out of the country, to let the criminals go. Just another set up. But anyway, there is no justice for Scientologists in Germany.

I hid in the USA, on the East Coast. Everybody knew I was not missing but hiding, but despite everything criminal RB did, Interpol Wiesbaden helped RB. I-Pol Wiesbaden told USCB Interpol (a German poodle) in D.C. to track me down in the USA to return me to her, because I would be a missing person.

After all, it's still a German Nazi world!

Barbara Schwarz, April 25, 2003

<hr> From: BarbaraSchwarz2222@hotmail.com (BarbaraSchwarz)
Subject: Attentions, all Germans, which are no Nazis.... This is a warning!
Date: 26 Apr 2003 09:51:40 -0700
Message-ID: <a6bc00a0.0304260851.1ed733e4@posting.google.com>

I want to warn the Germans which live in Germany, (those which are no Nazis, because I don't care much for the rest, which are still Nazis at heart and in their minds) that they have to watch out to not become victims of terror attacks by the still existing German Nazi secret service, because in order to stay undetected, they would esp. attack their own folk and blame the attacks on another source, that they hired to commit the atrocities.

My intuition really works. One year before Bin Laden organized the September 11 terror attacks against the USA, I felt that too. I tried to get the attention of the USA, many governmental agencies, on Bin Laden, but as they are secretly German Nazi infiltrated, they did not pull his files and did not step up the intelligence around that man nor stepped up the security for the USA.

I have the same strange feeling for Germany. I think in order to come away they would play "victim" and target Germans, to create the impression it is not them which organize the terror acts and the atrocities all over the world.

What you have to do is to bring that German still existing Nazi secret service to it's knees, you have to convict them, before they can go through with attacking you, the German citizens. Don't leave that up to only your government. You have a still existing Nazi government. It will not protect your rights either. They will let you die, just as German soldiers died in Stalingrad for nothing after the war was already lost and nobody called them back.

Barbara Schwarz, April 25, 2003

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