So this Diane Richardson represented herself to Mr. Scary Productions as
SONJA MATTSON. We answered her questions, guardedly but honestly. When
pressed to present proof or details, she simply said that she had been told
that we were being paid by the LMT and that her words would be used against
her.
Well guess what DIANE? We did not use your words against you in this forum
or elsewhere. We did print them out and they WILL be shown to interested
parties, including area and national media. But since you used our words
against us, here are all of your words from the letters you referenced but
didn't bother to print or quote properly.
Mr. Scary
About the concert and LMT
Date:
16 Oct 00 00:19:18 MDT
From:
SONJA MATTSON <sonja.mattson@usa.net>
To:
MrScary@tampamail.com
Hi, I'm penzanze.
What is it that you like to know?
____________________________________________________________________
:
Re: [Re: About the concert and LMT]
Date:
17 Oct 00 12:49:23 MDT
From:
SONJA MATTSON <sonja.mattson@usa.net>
To:
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com> wrote:
> Not sure what you mean.
>
> We sent out a press release.
>
> Do you have questions?
>
> Mr. Scary Productions
> Okay, so what are you then?
Since you obviously have some incredibly useful information, please contact
Mr. Scary Productions immediately at the above email address with your
contact
information (or respond anonymously if you prefer) so that you and your
point
of view can be included in future press releases and you can be contacted
for
interviews.
Mr. Scary Productions
MrScary@tampamail.com
You posted that so i'm asking what would you like to know that you will add
in
your future press release?
I don't have any "sekrit" information, i just know what kind of people
these
are. I've known most of them for ages through internet.
Here a short list of whats bugging me with them:
a) they are not a help group b) they don't support free speech c) their
leaders are not very relaiable d) many of them are former scientologists,
some
practise it still as a so called freezoner e) they attack against other
critics and use scientology tactics to silence them f) their goals is to
"reform" scientology, which can mean that they are doing this to get power
inside the scn
There are many much better critic groups that helps cult victims. I suggest
you should cancel this money raising concert for LMT and donate the money
to
some more relaiable group.
Re: [Re: [Re: About the concert and LMT]]
Date:
17 Oct 00 22:24:57 MDT
From:
SONJA MATTSON <sonja.mattson@usa.net>
To:
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com> wrote:
> You bring up some interesting points. What is the proof for your
accusations?
> What "more reliable" cult victim help group would you suggest?
>
> This event is not about to be cancelled, but future benefit events are
planned,
> for groups that help abused children, and others...we are always open to
> suggestions for such events.
Okaay, i'll write you a longer letter later today explaining this.
May i ask you one thing? I'm not intend to sound unpolite, but is your
company
doing these "promotes" as a profession? If so how much do you charge? I
guess
it's business secret, but if above is true, may i ask how much minton paid
for
this concert?
I apologize, if you do all this pro bono. I just had to ask.
Subject:
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: About the concert and LMT]]]
Date:
18 Oct 00 23:43:22 MDT
From:
SONJA MATTSON <sonja.mattson@usa.net>
To:
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com> wrote:
> As has been plainly stated in the press releases, this event has been
organized by
> area musicians and artists. Volunteers. Pro Bono.
>
> We look forward to reading your longer letter.
>
> Mr. Scary Productions
>
Subject:
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: About the concert and LMT]]]]
Date:
19 Oct 00 23:12:00 MDT
From:
SONJA MATTSON <sonja.mattson@usa.net>
To:
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
"Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com> wrote:
> You have been told lies.
>
> Do what you will, but without some sort of evidence, your words cannot be
> believed. Statements without proof. Not worth the pixels they occupy on
the
> computer screen.
>
> It would then appear that your emails were just a ploy to get
information.
>
> Much like Scientology uses Private Investigators to attempt to dig up any
molecule
> of dirt on a perceived enemy.
>
> Want some proof of that last statement?
>
> Mr. Scary
Sure i'm interested in any proofs conserning scn. But once again, i'm not a
scientologist. This group which you are now about to support is not a help
group. They don't care the f... about people who have been lured into scn.
It's just a game to them.
There is other groups which you can support, but now that you have a
reputation to support MFC, i don't think any of good people would like to
deal
with you.
I know these people from way back. They really do bad things. Sure they
have
changed the looks that they show to outside, but a tiger can't get off it's
stripes.
I just put here few facts, cause i don't fully trust you in that you don't
work for minton.
1. Arnie Lerma had connections to a neo-nazi organisation Liberty Lobby run
by
Willis Carto
2. Jesse Prince the vice president is well, i'm sure if you go to
www.parishioners.org you get the point. I know it's a scn front's page, but
those criminal records are not forged.
3. Minton came to internet and he didn't cope too well. He or his friends
then
decided that those critics who opposed his often obscene and disgusting
behaviour should be silenced. I'm one of them. They have been very
successful.
Most of the veterans who has fought more than anyone against scn are dumped
and they spread lies of them. I don't want to tell you their names cause i
don't speak for them. These are my own thoughts.
You don't know how angry it makes me feel when i see this happening. I
don't
have millions and i'm in noway important. I'm easy to dump. I'm not nuts
and
i'm not paranoid. I know how crazy this all sounds, but i don't belive that
a
cause justifies the bad actions. This MFC is bad. People in it are bad and
very vicious by nature. I do know them from way back.
If you read from ars or if they mail to you telling that i'm a
scientologists
or nuts or etc.. Don't belive in it. It is not true.
I've been told that you work for LMT, so perhaps i should not tell you
things.
Since my words in their hands would be only used against me.
> In article <jr5jvsgok9702272b75p8q9j5aiq0s5vmt@4ax.com>,
> ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:29:28 -0400, Karin Case
> <karincase@lisatrust.net> wrote:
> > Just ignore Diane Richardson. Everyone knows she is a total lunatic
> who loves
> > to create dishonesty where none exists. She is just here because she
> is now
> > bored, having driven everyone off efnet irc so that she now has
> nobody left to
> > abuse and harass.
> >
> > ptsc
>
> Nobody has been driven away from efnet. Those who went to unet went
> there voluntarely. Abuse and harrashment is done by unet people not by
> efnet, as some recent postings also very clearly shows.
>
> This is just another attempt to alter irc history. For those who don't
> know it, LMT people stole a channel from unet after it was expired.
> They did it just to get the control over critics, critics that would
> speak their mind and not to be following Bob's orders. Then they
> started to recruit people on their side. Consensus has it's prize. It
> has to silence the critical voices to be able to live.
>
> What it comes to Mr Scary whom with i have been exchanging letters
> recently, i told him that i suspect him being paid by LMT or minton. He
> denyed. Then he posted a threats to handout flyers at concert, telling
> that i'm a Scieno. Yesterday i saw a web page where somebody claimed
> that he is in fact a Private Investigator. Is this true? Have you ever
> heard of a PI that does something Pro Bono? Why is this person going to
> spread flyers telling that i'm a Scieno on a concert benefit for LMT?
>
> Whats LMT's statement into that this Mr Scary is threating at Internet
> to spread flyers telling, wrongfully, that i'm a Scieno?
>
> FYI ONCE MORE, I'M NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST!
>
> ...and all these messages about how great the concert will be, sounds
> like you just drumming it to become bigger than it really would be.
> Which always sucks when i hear that kind of advertising. A good concert
> is a good one even without any ads.
>
> I like concerts anyway, so good luck. Thou i suspect gang would walk
> away in a minute you start talking of Scn. Just a hunch :)
>
> --
> The Church of Scientology is both an interesting
> and important new religious movement. It is
> interesting because its operating values are in
> the area of logical, rationalist thought. -- Christine Norstrand aka
> Saint Xine
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Message-ID: <39FA2362.26715551@tampamail.com>
From: "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
Subject: Re: PTSC Unearths LMT Duplicity!!!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:53:38 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay
Diane, we at Mr. Scary Productions would like to thank you for some of the best
cultist defender rhetoric in some time. It is printing out and will be featured in
our press material!
These continued attacks on this benefit concert are REALLY appreciated, keep up the
good work.
You are attacking a molecule of information that you think is relevant and real,
but it is really just a simple mistake! You must feel sooooo very silly to have
gone to such lengths, when the truth is just as Karin Case described... we were not
too specific about who exactly was paying for Jamie's expenses, we just said they
were being covered. He assumed since the benefit is for the LMT, that they were
paying. Ooops, he was mistaken. But since we are all BALD FACED LIARS I suppose
nothing we say is believed, even this particular piece of truth.
So keep up the good work! Attack early and attack often!
Mr. Scary
referen@bway.net wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2000 13:01:18 -0000, Cheradenine Zakalwe
> <zakalwe@nym.alias.net> wrote:
>
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >"Diane Richardson" <referen@bway.net> wrote in message
> >news:39f96b4c.7892572@enews.newsguy.com...
> >> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:39:59 -0400, ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> > JUDAS' SON is the very same recording that an anti-Scientology group
> >> > out of
> >> >Florida called the Lisa McPherson Trust (named for a woman who was
> >> >killed by the
> >> >Church when she tried to defect) heard on the Internet and is now paying
> >> >all my
> >> >expenses to fly me out to Florida to perform and MC at a first of it's kind
> >> >benefit concert in November in the city of Clearwater,
> >>
> >> Now THAT'S an interesting admission!
> >>
> >> Thanks, ptsc. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you really aren't a troll.
> >>
> >> You've proven beyond doubt that Mr. Scary's insistent assertions that
> >> the LMT has nothing to do with 'his' benefit concert are nothing but a
> >> bald-faced lie.
> >
> >That would be a pretty damning indictment if it made any sense.
> >What insistent assertions are you talking about?
>
> From: "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
> Subject: Re: Lex's Gazette - Special edition no. 2
> Date: 20 Oct 2000 00:00:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <39EF9A06.A1610555@tampamail.com>
>
> For the record, Mr. Scary Productions is not working for Bob Minton,
> for the Lisa McPherson Trust, or for anyone else in respect to the
> benefit concert.
>
> From: "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
> Subject: Re: LMT Benefit Concert press release (plain text version)
> Date: 17 Oct 2000 00:00:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <39EBD2DF.BB2A8D7E@tampamail.com>
>
> Show up at Club More on Saturday, November 11th anytime between 12:00
> p.m. (that would be noon!!!!!!) and 2 a.m., and you will se that it is
> not a "troll" but in fact a benefit concert organized by concerned
> citizens/musicians and attended by concerned citizens/music fans.
> Costs have been posted, for any questions, email Mr. Scary
> Productions.
>
> I could go on, of course, but I believe you see that Mr. Scary has
> gone to *great* lengths to assert time after time that organization of
> this 'benefit concert' has occurred independent of the LMT and is the
> sole work of volunteer artists in the Clearwater area.
>
> Now we learn that is not the case, from the very individual who has
> 'volunteered' his services to be the master of ceremonies for the
> event.
>
> >I've been following
> >the story of the benefit with some amusement, regretting that I'm not
> >going to have the time to get down to Florida and attend. I don't recall
> >ever seeing any claims from Mr. Scary that the LMT has "nothing to do"
> >with the concert.
>
> I'd suggest you do a little deja.com search. You'll be able to locate
> message after message with assertions that this event is not being
> organized by the LMT but by independent artists who have come up with
> the idea and put in into practice all by themselves. Now we learn,
> from one of those artists himself, that his expenses are to be covered
> entirely by the LMT.
>
> >And I just went back an re-read all his messages from
> >the past two weeks that are still on my news server. What he's said is
> >that
> >it's a benefit for the LMT, and the he and the performers are forgoing
> >their usual fees.
>
> That's not all he's said, dear.
>
> >Have your friends in the OSA (or anyone else
> >for that matter) provided you with any evidence to the contrary?
>
> I don't know a soul who is in OSA. In fact, I don't even know
> any who is a current member of the Church of Scientology. Looks
> like you've contracted a severe case of ARSCC(wdne) paranoia
> in a remarkably short period of time.
>
> >Do you understand the English language and the entertainment
> >industry well enough to understand that forgoing fees does not
> >necessarily equal paying all of one's own travel and expenses?
>
> Do you understand the English language and the entertainment industry
> well enough to understand that claiming the event is not being
> organized BY the LMT is an outright lie when we learn expenses are
> being underwritten by the LMT?
>
> That's sort of like O.J. Simpson deciding he's running low on cash and
> organizing an "O.J. Simpson Benefit," all the while using the few
> friends he has left to front the scam by claiming the benefit was all
> their idea and that O.J. has nothing to do with it.
>
> Do you understand the English language well enough to recognize
> *fraud* *deceit* and *deception* when it smacks you in the face? No,
> I didn't think you did.
>
> >> I appreciate the work you've done digging up the truth about this LMT
> >> scam.
> >
> >Let me guess. You're a scientologist, aren't you?
>
> Silly troll. And you're a newbie, aren't you? :-)
>
> Diane Richardson
> referen@bway.net
Message-ID: <39FA4563.595FA359@tampamail.com>
From: "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
Subject: Re: PTSC Unearths LMT Duplicity!!!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 03:18:42 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay
There is nothing to prove!
Mr. Scary Productions is paying for his expenses! And will be paying for them once
he gets here. What do you want, a running tab of meals and cab fares? Scanned
copies of credit card receipts? Wanna know whether we bought him shots of vodka or
maybe he likes sushi...whether he prefers Marriott or Motel 6... I bet the cult
would love that, it would give them an inside track on what hotel he will be staying
at so they can serve him with subpoenas for depositions for lawsuits he has nothing
to do with...and for a change their PI's won't have to impersonate police officers
to find out what room he is in...
Okay, to humor you, as far as Jamie goes, so far Mr. Scary has paid for: 1. Travel
Expenses. 2. NOTHING ELSE!
And that is more information than we had any reason to give you.
Mr. Scary
lameduck@cotse.com wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:53:38 GMT, "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com> wrote:
>
> >Diane, we at Mr. Scary Productions would like to thank you for some of the best
> >cultist defender rhetoric in some time. It is printing out and will be
> >featured in our press material!
> >
> >These continued attacks on this benefit concert are REALLY appreciated, keep up
> >the good work.
> >
> >You are attacking a molecule of information that you think is relevant and
> >real, but it is really just a simple mistake! You must feel sooooo very silly
> >to have gone to such lengths, when the truth is just as Karin Case described...
> >we were not too specific about who exactly was paying for Jamie's expenses, we
> >just said they were being covered. He assumed since the benefit is for the
> >LMT, that they were paying. Ooops, he was mistaken. But since we are all BALD
> >FACED LIARS I suppose nothing we say is believed, even this particular piece of
> >truth.
>
> End the controversy. Post proof of payment.
Subject: Re: PTSC Unearths LMT Duplicity!!!
From: "M. C. DiPietra" <mdipietra@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <B61F0501.2458D%mdipietra@earthlink.net>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:10:14 GMT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
in article 39f96b4c.7892572@enews.newsguy.com, Diane Richardson at
referen@bway.net wrote on 10/27/00 7:57 AM:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:39:59 -0400, ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> JUDAS' SON is the very same recording that an anti-Scientology group out of
>> Florida called the Lisa McPherson Trust (named for a woman who was killed by
>> the
>> Church when she tried to defect) heard on the Internet and is now paying all
>> my
>> expenses to fly me out to Florida to perform and MC at a first of it's kind
>> benefit concert in November in the city of Clearwater,
>
> Now THAT'S an interesting admission!
>
> Thanks, ptsc. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you really aren't a troll.
>
> You've proven beyond doubt that Mr. Scary's insistent assertions that
> the LMT has nothing to do with 'his' benefit concert are nothing but a
> bald-faced lie.
>
> I appreciate the work you've done digging up the truth about this LMT
> scam.
>
>
> Diane Richardson
> referen@bway.net
>
Perhaps Jamie knows it's a benefit for the Lisa McPherson Trust.
I know when I'm asked to play a benefit concert, I usually assume that
people who book me for it are somehow knowledgeable of the organization for
which they are holding a benefit.
I myself have organized and played for many many benefits; some for
organizations in which I have been directly involved, some peripherally, and
some not really at all. I have never asked the promoter their relationship
to the organization benefitted, nor have I ever been asked by an artist I've
booked for a benefit if I was part of the organization.
All it shows is that Mr. Scary knows about the LMT, and is putting on this
benefit. Jamie was asked to play a benefit for the LMT by Mr. Scary. It
would be natural for him to assume that Mr. Scary = LMT, especially since he
lives on the other side of the country, and has never talked to either one
before.
If you were putting on this benefit and called Jamie to ask him to play a
benefit for the Lisa McPherson Trust, he'd probably assume you were an
employee of the Trust, too.
I'm here, Diane. I'm involved in the music scene here, I know the owner of
the club, and there is nothing orchestrated about Mr. Scary's benefit other
than that he wants to help the Trust.
Grady Ward, meanwhile, is piloting black helicopters...
http://mp3.com/MaggieCouncil XENU WORLD ORDER CD now available
M.C.DiPietra <mdipietra@earthlink.net>, SP4, KoX
"Hell, if you understood everything I say, you'd be me!" -Miles Davis
Message-ID: <39FA40E7.EBC4927E@tampamail.com>
From: "Mr. Scary" <MrScary@tampamail.com>
Subject: Re: The Benefit Concert of ALL TIME!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:59:38 GMT
Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay
After being attacked relentlessly, one can become rather blunt.
We took private questions and answered them honestly. Those answers and the
connected private conversations were then referenced in public here in an
attempt to damage the reputation of Mr. Scary Productions. It turned out that
the sender of those messages had decieved us as to his/her identity.
Comments and questions are always welcome. Thank you for the good wishes about
the concert. I am sure you can understand a guarded and defensive attitude when
promoting an event such as this. I would hope that you would understand the
meaning of "cult apologist" in the previous post, simply asking questions is not
being an apologist.
Mr. Scary
unusual wrote:
> In article <39FA361D.8E570626@tampamail.com>, MrScary@tampamail.com wrote...
> >
>
> {snipped}
>
> >The observation from here is that all the words about who is or isn't
> >paying whose expenses for this event are designed to move the discussion
> >away from the main point which is THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF ATTACK
> >MENTALITY THAT THIS EVENT WAS DESIGNED TO EXPOSE. It isn't that
> >necessary that you be from Scientology, you can be simply an
> >apologist... either way you are a tool of their plan.
>
> No room for questions? Why does that seem ever so familiar?
>
> Hope the concert goes well, regardless.