In article <8a1kbh$lji$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, publicrelations@scientology.org says...

> What does Scientology say about the raising of children?
CMO ED 411 of 29 AUGUST 1979 says, in part:

"The following are some Consultant [L Ron Hubbard] Advices which are for the Cadet Org and which are to be known and followed by all staff:

"3. Make it known to the children that any act of vandalism, theft or out-ethics or any crime committed by a child will be immediately followed by placing that child in the RPF under severe restrictions." (Consultant)"

"[I]n Feb. the hepatitis scene happened and we were swarmed over by County and State Health Inspectors. The County Inspector (an ally) found out about the existence of the Fountain [Scientology's child care facility for the children of Sea Organization parents] and said this is not OK and let's quickly work together and handle it. He continually predicted an attack from another agency and was not able to say which one. We found the Annex could be used and was legal with a small amount of renos and started to work. Sure enough, we were raided by 2 Special Agents of the State. But because of our taking full responsibility for our scene and well into having the Annex ready for use, there was nothing they could do to us.

I will not go into detail of what they could have done but will indicate that we were suited in 1974 for running illegal child care and this would have been our second offence. First time we got probation and you could imagine what the second offense would have gotten us." -- Stephen LeMarr, Assistant Guardian Cadet [Organization], for the Boards Of Directors of the Churches [sic] Of Scientology, in Cadet Guardian Office ED #4 of 5 May 1979 From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"Quite a number of children [of Scientology's Sea Org parents] are behind their grade level on studies in the public school system (which is absurd since we have study tech and wogs don't)." -- Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, as Approved by the Watchdog Committee, for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"As shown by the Stat[istics] Section the Cadet Org and CEO [Cadet Estates Organization] scene is wildly off the rails and the scene has become very degraded. PAC [Pacific Area Command] SO children instead of becoming valuable personnel assets are in many cases becoming criminals." -- Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, as Approved by the Watchdog Committee, for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"It was also found that the C[ommanding] O[fficer] Cadet Org put on by the [19]76 mission, Bob Raffe, was criminal and sadistic to other Cadets [Sea Org children]. He was removed mid [19]77 after he hand- cuffed another Cadet to an electrical outlet and nearly electrocuted him." -- Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, as Approved by the Watchdog Committee, for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"The CEO [Cadet Estates Organization] also did not hold the line on keeping the Cadet Org running as a separate unit and in fact contributed to its unmock [disestablishment]. Looking into this it was found that the CEO also had a large number of DBs [degraded beings], criminals and perverts posted in it. Some of these would slap the cadets [children] around and treat them like "kids." There is no evidence of anyone in the CEO taking any responsibility for assisting the Cadet Org execs with hatting [training] or direction to help them keep the org together, but instead assisted in the unmock by bringing cadets [children] into the CEO to work as nannies and assistants to the adults." -- Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, as Approved by the Watchdog Committee, for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"...the SO has also continued to neglect their hat [responsibilities] with respect to Cadets as shown by the fact that they have continually put their unwanted or reject staff into the CEO [Cadet Estates Organization] and have done nothing effective to handle the degraded conditions that the Cadet Org and CEO recently fell into." -- Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, as Approved by the Watchdog Committee, for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From Aides Order 203-71 of 28 August 1981:

"Also people forget that exact HCO PL [Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter] Ethics has to be kept in especially on children. They have to be hatted [indoctrinated into Scieno-think]. And that many need their own child MAAs [Master at Arms, or Ethics Officers], again hatted. Twice, true Suppressives, though only 5 [years old] in one case and about 6 [years old] in another absolutely ruined not only the other kids but also every effort to put it to rights and one org also! By sheer psychotic covert violence." -- L Ron Hubbard, as quoted by Larry Price, Sea Org Evaluator, Approved by the Watchdog Committee for the Board Of Directors of the Church [sic] Of Scientology of California From: "Steve Manning" <sman@loxinfo.co.th>
Subject: UNFORTUNATEY...I was on the Sea Org with LRH in 1968
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:21:55 +0700
Message-ID: <8a4rpo$6lu$1@news.loxinfo.co.th>
I was twelve years old and witnessed children younger than myself being thrown into the chain locker ( a room for storing the anchor while at sea) for days on end until they persuaded the ethics officer that they were not enemies. Physical abuse of children was rife. Cold water hose-downs on the deck at six in the morning was a common practice. Working twelve hour days for little or no money. Sleeping in over crowded dormitories with strange adults led to sexual abuse. And all this in the good name of Scientology. If any of you sick fucks who are in the business today can explain why this happened to me, especially while "God" himself was on board, I'll be happy to know. Until then I'll continue to smear the name of Scientology, and all that goes with it, with the shit and contempt it deserves. If anyone would like more info. on the life and abuse that went on on the evil ship as it sailed around the Mediterranean, I'll be happy to enlighten you.

Steve Manning From: Monica Pignotti <pignotti@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: UNFORTUNATEY...I was on the Sea Org with LRH in 1968
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:40:17 GMT
Message-ID: <8a6drh$4nv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Thank you for coming forward with this. I too was on the Apollo, a little later than you, from 1973-1975 when it was sold and witnessed similar atrocities. My story is up on the web at:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/pignotti/ I knew all about the physical and mental abuse, but did not know about the sexual abuse, but given the situation it doesn't surprise me. I'm sorry you had to go through your childhood this way and am glad to hear that you are free now. If you have any interest in writing up a full report of it, I know there are several people who would be willing to put it up at their websites.

-- Monica Pignotti Disclaimer: The statements I make on this forum are an expression of my individual opinions. I do not represent any institution here.

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