On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:45:22 GMT, publicrelations@scientology.org wrote:

> Why is Scientology opposed to psychiatry?
Why roxthefox is opposed to $cientology!

>What the Church opposes are brutal, inhumane psychiatric treatments.
I am opposed to brutal, inhumane practices such as the RPF, the Introspection Rundown, the Purification Rundown, Sec Checks, etc. for these reasons: 1) These procedures are dangerous, lack scientific varification as to there value and safety. 2) People have been known to, as a result of these procedures go mad. In some cases the result of these procedures has been permanent physical illness of a very serious nature such as liver damage.

> It does so for three principal reasons: 1) procedures such as
> electro-shock, drugs and lobotomy injure,
FYI: lobotomy is now illegal for use as a psychiatric form of treatment.

> maim and destroy people in the guise of help; 2) psychiatry
> is not a science and has no proven methods to justify the
> billions of dollars of government funds that are poured into
> it; and
$cientology is not a science and has not proven itself of value to mankind. It is also not a religion and does not deserve to have the millions of dollars of tax exemption per year that it receives. It does no charitable work and sponsors no charities.

> 3) psychiatric theories that man is a mere animal have been
> used to rationalize, for example, the wholesale slaughter of
> human beings in World Wars I and II.
Scientology advocates neglect and even abuse of the physical body as it teaches that the *Thetan* will just pick up a better one after death should the *Thetan* choose to do so.

>Scientologists abhor "treatments" which harm people and particularly
>dislike it when those responsible refuse to take responsibility for
>their acts or to institute reforms in their own field.
I abhor the use of the Introspection Rundown (the imprisonment of human beings who only crime is madness) as well as the RPF, etc, etc, etc, in the interest of nothing more than money.

> Scientologists are instinctively opposed to those who abuse
> their power or who harm the innocent and weak.
Oh really? Why then *Tone 40*, gang bang sec checks, and the use of the wog legal system to harass and destroy enemies? Why the noisy investigations, the attacks, the raids on people's homes? Why $cientology?

> Scientologists particularly object to the materialistic view
> advanced by psychiatry that man is a soulless animal.
Why the insistence that people empty their bank accounts, sell their properties, steal from parents and children, max out credit cards and even participate in illegal activities to gain money for your cult?

>The words psychiatry and psychology both come from the Greek
>word "psyche," meaning "the soul." The word psychology originally
>meant "study of the soul."
Right!

>In 1879, however, German professor Wilhelm
>Wundt of Leipzig University advanced the idea that investigating the
>soul or spirit was fruitless, that man was simply another animal, and
>that he could be studied in the same manner as an animal.
I, personally, do not know of any psychiatrist or psychologist who believes this. If they did, people with mental problems would be caged like wild animals or $ceintologist on the Introspection Rundown.

>Scientologists, on the other hand, hold that man is a spiritual being.
>Furthermore, by the Creed of the Church, the healing of mentally caused
>ills should not be condoned in non-religious fields.
So why do you do it?

>Scientologists aim to create a world without war, without insanity and
>without criminality.
Of course, because in your world the entire population would be busy applauding LRH's photo and dusting his unused offices all over the world. The Co$ would control everyone and their money. Anyone who even thought of revolt would be imprisoned and starved to death.

>Psychiatric practices, on the other hand, destroy
>minds and reduce man to a robotized and drugged state where he can be
>controlled.
Ask any ex-$cientologist where s/he found freedom. Not in your *religion*, no way. It was after having regained their personal power with the aid of psychological methods of treatment.

>Despite psychiatry’s vast absorption of government funds,
>crime, illiteracy and drug addiction -- social problems that would
>decline if psychiatry were doing its self-imposed job of handling the
>problems of the mind -- continue to proliferate.
Who told you that? I know someone did because $cientologist at your level have been rendered incapable of originating a thought or belief.

>Even when psychiatric treatments do not tear apart living tissue,
>psychiatrists routinely tell their patients what they think is "wrong"
>with them, thus interjecting the psychiatrists’ own prejudices,
>preferences and falsehoods into the therapy and so denying the patient
>a chance of recovery.
And $cientology tells people they have Overts and Withholds to blame for all their ills. Tell me I am wrong, I dare you.

>A true therapy would enable a person to find out for himself the source
>of his troubles and give him the ability to improve conditions in his
>own life, relationships and environment.
That is what psychiatry does. I have never heard of a psychiatrist telling a patient his/her diagnosis. You would not know that because you do not know any psychs, have had no personal experience with any and are just parroting what you have been taught to believe.

>Violent psychiatric therapies create not only physical but spiritual
>traumas.
There are no *violent* psychiatric therapies, dork. However the RPF, from what I understand, is quite violent. As for traumas, what say you regarding the insistence that people stop life saving medications such as anti-seizure medications? How about people who do not seek medical attention and die of diseases that are treatable like cancer?

What about the madness that results in your cult ending in suicides and murders? Did *they* not tell you of these incidents?

>At best, psychiatry suppresses life’s problems; at worst it
>causes severe damage and irreversible setbacks in a person’s life and
>even death.
At best $ceintology suppresses life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It tears families apart and then throws away it's elderly.

It tosses out the *useless* and penniless like so much garbage as having no value any longer. At worst it murders people.

>Robert
roxthefox SP3 for lots of good reasons

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