Sylvia Stanard was recently interviewed as part of a NBC Channel 5, Cincinatti, story. She fibbed about Scientology's fair game policies. Rinder is quoted as lying about there being 10 million Scientologists.
************************************************* * The official Lies of Scientology Project * *************************************************From time to time, Scientology spokesmen appear in the media and tell lies. Sometimes in TV interviews, sometimes in writing, for example letters to editors of magazines and newspapers. Sometimes they lie. This project is an attempt to chronicle the official lies of Scintology, it is a list of appearances and lies told.
This list is in Chronological order. This list should not be considered exhuastive or complete.
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NEVER USE LIES IN PR. The trouble with PR then was its lack of Reality. A lie of course is a false Reality. ...
Hostile (or counter-PR) is usually the usual fabric of lies. If one finds out the lies being told and documents just one as being false, he has made counter-PR recoil. His hearer will never believe him again. He's dead. ...
The "dead agent caper" was used to disprove the lies. This consisted of counter-documenting any area where the lies were circulated. The lie "they were -- " is countered by a document showing "they were not." This causes the source of the lie and any other statements from that source to be discarded.
- L. Ron Hubbard ************************************************* * Lies the Cult Told Me Timeline * * "Xenu? What Xenu? Ain't no Xenu!" * *************************************************
************************************************* Rinder, Sylvia Stanard lie about fair game, number of Scientologists and "religion" *************************************************
November 16, 2005 http://www.channelcincinnati.com/health/5338143/de tail.html Channel 5, NBC, Cincinnati, Ohio,
Michael Rinder/Scientology Spokesman: "There's about 10 million around the world." ------
Former Recruit: "It has been documented that those who speak out against the "Church" of Scientology are not merely left alone. The retribution has ranged from harassment to worse."
Sylvia Stanard: "That's a very common misperception, and it's just absolutely not true." -----
Sylvia Stanard is a Scientology spokesperson. She's been a "church" member for 30 years and flew in from Washington D.C. specifically to respond to our story. --------
Dave Wagner: "Is this a mind-controlling cult?" Sylvia Stanard: "Absolutely not. Mind control really involves pain, drugs, hypnosis. It's the kind of thing psychiatrists do. Scientology does exactly the opposite. Scientology releases you, your inner self. It releases you from problems and upsets that are controlling you." --------
Sylvia Stanard/Scientology Spokeswoman: "It's really the "religion" of "religion"s." --- Sylvia Stanard: "We're not a Christian "religion" specifically, although some Scientologists are Christians. So it really is, fits into our concept, it's more Eastern in tradition, of you discover for yourself what is the supreme being and what is that relationship for you."
************************************************* Rinder lies about Xenu November 3, 2005 *************************************************November 3, 2005, NBC's Today with Katy Couric Full transcript http://members.cox.net/batchild1/transcript/today. htm
KATIE COURIC: I know that according to my research, L. Ron Hubbard, the father of Scientology, claimed that humans are immortal spiritual beings composed of body, mind and spirit. But he also claimed that 75 million years ago, an evil galactic ruler named Xenu killed billions of his people by sending them to Earth in space planes. You can understand why some people might feel this is, at best, pretty unconventional and I guess at worst just plain out there. Right?
MICHAEL RINDER: I can understand that certainly, Katie. That just has no, no basis in reality. This is one of those things that get spread around one of those old stories that--
KATIE COURIC: So he never--
MICHAEL RINDER: --is run around--
KATIE COURIC: He never wrote about that?
MICHAEL RINDER: No. Not--not in those terms. There is an alteration and twisting of things; and the real point about Scientology is that you can find out what Scientology is by going into any "church", by reading any one of these books, getting them. We try and make them as available as possible so that people can see what Scientology is. You won't find anything like that in any of these materials at all.
(All about Xenu) http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html************************************************* Pat Harney - Fair Game Lies July 10, 2005 *************************************************
Scientology grows because it helps people live a better life Letters to the Editor - St. Petersburg Times Published July 10, 2005
Re: Scientology, not Times, must change, letter by William C. Barwell, June 30.Mr. Barwell, being from Texas, having no firsthand experience with Scientology, pontificates on matters 30 years old and more and, of course, fails to state that the "Church" of Scientology has since definitely set the record straight.
The "fair game" policy was canceled in 1968 because it was being misinterpreted, as Barwell is doing in this current letter.
In the oft-quoted policy letter of Oct. 18, 1967, "fair game" meant that a Scientologist who renounces his faith could no longer look to the ethics and justice codes within Scientology to settle his claims.
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-- Pat Harney, public affairs director, "Church" of Scientology, Flag Service Organization, Clearwater Florida
Fair Game was not cancelled in 1968. In fact, as late as 1995, Scientology was testifying in court that Fair Game was a "core policy" of Scientology.
----------------------------------------------- 212 Cal.App.3d at 883:
II. Constitutional "Religious" Freedom Guaranties Do Not Immunize Scientology From Liability for Any of the Actions on Which Wollersheim's Intentional Infliction of Emotional Injury Cause of Action Is Based.
Scientology asserts all four courses of conduct comprising the intentional infliction claim are forms of "religious" expression protected by the freedom of "religion" clauses of the United States and California Constitutions. We conclude some would not be protected "religious" activity even if Wollersheim freely participated. We further conclude none of these courses of conduct qualified as protected "religious" activity in Wollersheim's case. Here they occurred in a coercive atmosphere appellant created through threats of retribution against those who would leave the organization. ........
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