Erik:

One of the positions I held during my many years in the Sea Organization was Address Officer/Computer In Charge. I last held this position during September of 1983, at which time I finally left the Sea Org for good.

The list of 300,000 names is not what the cult refers to as the "trained and processed" list. (I don't argue the fact that your friend may have referred to it that way.) The "T&P" list (that's what it's called by staff) consists of individuals who have been trained on a "major course" and/or "processed" ("audited") on an "auditing action". This category includes what the cult refers to as "training levels" and "auditing grades" on their "Gradation and Classification Chart" (aka the "grade chart").

I can believe that by 1992 the mailing list had grown to 300,000 names. If true (and I have no reason to disbelieve) it would mean the mailing list had only increased by 50,000 names during a nine year period.

The _entire_ mailing list was only 250,000 names in 1983. Of the 250,000 total names, only 40-45,000 were "T&P". The rest of the names on the list consisted of approximately 180,000 book buyers and "basic" course comple- tions, and "other". "Other" consists of address unknowns, "dead filed", "ask offs", legal threats, "SPs", "PTSes", "dropped the body", etc.

Besides having knowledge of the size of the mailing list due to having been the Address Officer/Computer I/C, I have personal knowledge of the size of the list for another reason. I used to be the Financial Planning Chairman and Treasury Secretary for the American St. Hill Organization.

As such, one of my responsibilities was ensuring that funds were approved for printing the "Auditor Mag" as well as for the postage & mailing house fees to address and mail it to the entire list.

If you could look at purchase orders, disbursement vouchers, checkbook records, CSWs, the disbursement audit summaries and the financial planning executive directives held in the Treasury archives, these records would validate what I am telling you here.

My Sea Org Finance Specialist, Treasury Secretary, and Financial Planning course certificates may be viewed at http://warrior.offlines.org/certs.html

I attest under the pains and penalty of perjury that the above is true.

Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
http://warrior.offlines.org

>
>I read something very interesting earlier today on another site (BeliefNet)
>regarding the trumped up claims of Scientology membership.
>
>http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?pageID=8&discussionID=11925
>2&messages_per_page=4
>
>"I recently re-watched the "Nightline with David Miscavage" that aired in
>1992. On that program, Heber Jentsch, in an exchange with the reporter
>Forest Sawyer, said this:
>
>Heber: "We have 8 million members since 1954."
>
>Sawyer: "How do you come to call them members?"
>
>Heber: "Because they joined and they came in and they studied Scientology."
>
>Sawyer: "They took one course..."
>
>Heber: "Well, that's how valuable a course is."
>
>Now. In 1992, I had a friend who had been in International Management. He
>was one of the Int Execs. He had been involved in re-vamping the prices in
>the early eighties, and he had been given something called the "training and
>processing list". This is a list of names of all the people who have ever
>taken a course in Dn or Scientology worldwide since 1950.
>
>He had absolutely no reason to lie to me. In fact, we were both talking
>about all the FPRD we had each had, and the context of the conversation was
>centered around that. In 1992, he told me that the training and processing
>list contained only 300,000 names.
>
>I remember a few months later, I saw this Nightline and saw Heber say this 8
>million Scientologists figure."
>
>
>This surprises the hell out of me (assuming its factuality). Only 300,000
>people ventured into Scientology to any degree whatever over a 32 year
>period (?). This means that over that stretch many (if not most) never even
>finished or even made it through the first communications course. Perhaps
>they only bought a book (?) I would have guessed considerably higher than
>that considering the prominent cultural visibility of Scientology from the
>mid-60's to the early 80's.
>
>_________________________________________________________
>
>
>El Ron Hubbard at cause over MEST: "Mary Sue, where's my GODDAMN rum 'n
>coke!!?"

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