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On Bigotwatch, et al.

I just found it interesting that bigotwatch would be with an isp called propagation.net http://www.propagation.net ...and that the only thing they assert one their front and only page is their anti-spam sentiments.

...and that propagation net would have name servers called "CI" Host ...and that http://www.cihost.com/ looks very "markety" if you know what I mean...

"C I Host Keeps Pushing The Inside of That Marketing Envelope "

...and that www.bigotwatch.com resolves to 216.97.23.56 but that their site is being redirected. (That ip address is not hard coded.)

...and that the last network hop before demoss.net is intnet.net, aka Intelligence Network. (Hi George.)

...and that the network demoss is on is interedu.net in Clearwater, but in order to see the site, you have to install chinese characters. (I recently caught a troll on ars with chinese characters in their header.

Hm... So anyway, when you install the chinese characters, the site name is sinoschool.com. I hear there's an awful lot of "wogs" in CW.

(Wog means worthy oriental gentleman in sino school.)

...and that even though interedu.net is registered in Clearwater, it actually *does* go to China. Wow!

Well, thanks for the entertainment. And as Rocky reminds us, "Let's give a hand to LRH."
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--------------------------------------------------------------- Foundation for Religious Tolerance (BIGOTWATCH3-DOM) 1220 Turner St.

Clearwater, FL 33756 US Domain Name: BIGOTWATCH.NET Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:

Moss, Mary De (MDM803) mary@DEMOSS.NET Foundation for Religious Tolerance 1220 Turner St.

Clearwater , FL 33756 727-449-9960 Technical Contact:

Network Operations Center (NO324-ORG) NETWORKSOLUTIONS@CIHOST.COM C I Host 1851 Central Drive Suite 110 Bedford, TX 76021 US 888-868-9931 Fax- - - 888-242-7554 Record last updated on 06-Apr-2001.

Record expires on 28-Nov-2002.

Record created on 28-Nov-2000.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 13:31:00 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.CIHOST.COM 216.221.162.81 NS2.CIHOST.COM 216.221.162.111 NS3.PROPAGATION.NET 63.249.128.204 ------------------------------------------------- Propagation Networks, Inc. (PROPAGATION4-DOM) 1851 Central Drive #110 Bedford, TX 76021 Domain Name: PROPAGATION.NET Administrative Contact:

Administration (AD3698-ORG) admin@PROPAGATION.NET Propagation Networks 1851 Central Drive Suite 110 Bedford, TX 76021 US 800-607-0123 Technical Contact:

Network Operations Center (NO326-ORG) noc@PROPAGATION.NET Propagation Networks 1851 Central Drive Suite 110 Bedford, TX 76021 US 800-605-5438 Fax- 888-242-7554 Billing Contact:

Billing Services (BI1147-ORG) billing@PROPAGATION.NET Propagation Networks 1851 Central Drive Suite 110 Bedford, TX 76021 US 800-607-0123 Fax- 888-242-7554 Record last updated on 21-May-2001.

Record expires on 01-Jun-2006.

Record created on 01-Jun-1998.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 13:31:00 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.160.10 NS2.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.162.106 NS3.PROPAGATION.NET 63.249.128.204 ------------------------------------------------- CIHS (NETBLK-PROPAGATION3) 1851 Central Drive Suite 110 Bedford, TX 76021 US Netname: PROPAGATION3 Netblock: 216.97.0.0 - 216.97.127.254 Coordinator:

Center, Network Operations (NC61-ARIN) noc@CIHOST.COM 888-868-9931 (FAX) 888-242-7554 Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS.CIHOST.COM 216.221.162.81 NS2.CIHOST.COM 216.221.162.111 Record last updated on 02-May-2001.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 22:54:36 EDT.

---------------------------------------------------------- This is the network for demoss.net:

Interedu (NET-NET-INTEREDU) 300 Cedar Lane Clearwater, FL 34617 US Netname: NET-INTEREDU Netblock: 207.90.3.0 - 207.90.3.255 Coordinator:

Nagey, Ro (RN151-ARIN) ronagey@DESIGN-DESIGN.COM (813) 585-1288 Record last updated on 21-Apr-1996.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 22:54:36 EDT.

--------------------------------------------------------- This is the last hop before demoss.net:

Intelligence Network Online, Inc. (NETBLK-INTNET) 1224 Rogers Street Clearwater, FL 34616 US Netname: NETBLK-INTNET Netblock: 198.252.32.0 - 198.252.63.255 Maintainer: INO Coordinator:

Diveglia, Gene L (GD19-ARIN) gene@INTNET.NET (813) 442-0114 (FAX) (813) 448-0949 Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS1.INTNET.NET 198.252.32.20 NS2.INTNET.NET 198.252.32.110 Record last updated on 17-May-2001.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 22:54:36 EDT.

---------------------------------------------------------- David DeMoss (DEMOSS7-DOM) 411 Cleveland St. #115 Clearwater, FL 33755 Domain Name: DEMOSS.NET Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:

DeMoss, David (DD6390) internic@DEMOSS.NET 411 Cleveland St. #115 Clearwater, FL 33755 727-467-4335 Record last updated on 07-Aug-2000.

Record expires on 03-Apr-2002.

Record created on 03-Apr-1998.

Database last updated on 31-May-2001 13:31:00 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.BULLDOGCAPITAL.COM 207.90.3.200 SNOOPY.KEYINFORMATION.COM 209.116.3.130 ------------------------------------------------------------ Here's what comes up when I trace interedu.net: 202.106.155.98 Taiyuan Teachers College Taiyuan Teachers College No.5 Houjia Road taiyuan 030001 sanxi CHINA ,,
Domain Name:interedu.net Record last updated at 2001-03-02 15:56:14 Record created on 2000/2/16 Record expired on 2003/2/16
Domain servers in listed order:

dns1.sinonets.net 216.218.225.2 dns3.sinonets.net 210.77.145.15 Administrator:

George CT chen register@wtdb.com 86-10-68178500 George CT chen No.5 Houjia Road taiyuan 030001 sanxi CHINA ,, Billing Contactor:

Beijing Sinonets Network&Telecom Co., Ltd hostmaster@sinonets.net.cn 86-10-66054700 Beijing Sinonets Network&Telecom Co., Ltd 16F Investment Plaza A,No.27 Jinrong Street,Xicheng Beijing,Beijing,China 100036 The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions.

Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.
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From: "antivirus" <unclevirus@email.com>
Subject: Re: On Bigotwatch, et al.--A Theory in Plain English
Message-ID: <QAJR6.83690$mu1.20469739@typhoon.we.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:51:44 GMT
Organization: Road Runner
Here it is:

1. Bigotwatch is likely being hosted on Intelligence Network.

<intnet.net.>

2. The owner of Intelligence Network is George Pilat of "Operation Snow White" fame, the same company who I know was working for scn's litigation team, Moxon et al, around 1990. At that time, Intelligence Network was not an ISP--they were a Private Investigator firm, located in Clearwater, FL.

3. Two name servers for bigotwatch go to propagation.net, and one goes to cihost.com. Both name servers belong to a single outfit in Bedford, Texas. Propagation.net has one page--it is a front, where you go to complain about their spam. (Careful--your name and mugshot might end up on the bigotwatch site.)

Question: Is propagation.net actually "propagating" spam? Their whole network needs a good probe, imo. CI Host is heavily into marketing, and may be using the propagation.net domain for their spamming. If so, they also may be hi-jacking other name servers, which would be highly illegal.

4. Demoss.net is Mary DeMoss, owner of bigotwatch. Although her personal domain is hosted on Interedu, she has bigotwatch being hosted with a possible spamming operation (Cihost.com/propagation.net) alt.religion.scientology is continually spammed with anti-psychiatry content--which is exactly the type of content that scientology and bigotwatch would be interested in propagating. Both bigotwatch and demoss.net are scn sites, yet they are not being hosted at intnet.net--a known scn ISP. Why? I think it is because their operation needs to remain a covert one, one that provides some distance from a convicted scn felon, who is *still* working for OSA.

5. Interedu is a "chinese" site registered in Clearwater.

www.interedu.net goes to China. Why? Well, first of all, it is a play on Hubbard's derogatory term for non-scientologists--"Wog" which means "worthy oriental gentleman". www.sinoschool.com, is a wordplay for critics--they are "educating" their critics--sino meaning of course "Sceino" or "Scientologist".

The site is one page long and the english version is "under construction." It is a front. It is also possible to set up a network so that traffic is redirected a few times, in this case going through China. It is also probable that at least some of the alt.religion.scientology trolls are using e-mails that are being generated through interedu.net.

Check out this alt.religion.scientology thread: "A New Bill in Wisconsin" by J.L. Hartley May 24, 2001. His header has chinese characters in it. "The New Bill" may refer to Bill Yaude, known to be heavily involved in the osa troll program.

Since alt.religion.scientology has been under a major spam attack, I thought it best to make this publicly known. I believe there are enough "strings to pull" here to warrant further investigation.

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