Scientology --- David Lee revelations

David Lee revelations

Back in 1998, Ray Randolph posted a series of articles on Scientology private investigator David Lee, or as his real name probably is, David Lebeau. As a result of this, something odd occurred which caused Ray to suddenly cease posting abruptly on the subject of Lebeau. In fact, he barely posted at all after this, and then only on innocuous subjects. At the time, I thought that it was just the cult being angry at him investigating their agents, rather than anything specific. I know they also attacked someone who went after their lawyers.

I assumed David Lee was just some OSA whore of a third-rate sort, and not actually important. However, if they're using him on this Fashanu/Lukman/frame-up thing against Minton, and previously the Youngs, and previously Terri Gamboa, then he seems to be more important than he used to be (or has become more important since a couple years ago).

That series of articles is interesting now, especially with its hints of old enemies of David Lebeau being thrilled at the chance to spill their guts on this foul character. He may have his finger in many pies and this Fashanu/Lukman thing may have been going on for quite some time. Old enemies can often be useful.

(I wouldn't rule out, though, that any of these contacts are OSA disinfo. Since Randolph indicates some if not most were anonymous it's hard to know how much to trust all this information, but some of it certainly seems to have panned out lately! In Ray's case they apparently retaliated in some serious way he never discussed publicly.)

I suspect if you so much as scratch a fingernail across this you will come up with some amazing stuff, perhaps even relating to the very individuals currently being used as cat's-paws by OSA.

In any case, I hope I'm not wasting time with red herrings.

This contains some highly-questionable information, specifically that regarding "Lee & Allen" and Price Waterhouse--which appears to concern an entirely different "David Lee" and which Randolph disclaimed on realizing the error.

At the very end of attached document please note two posts from Ron Newman which include useful (and reliable) information.

I'd consider any other material in this attachment to be dated, and possibly wildly inaccurate. I have put the posts in reverse chronological order, as the later posts are by far more interesting. If you don't have time to read the lot of it, read the first posts by chronological order, then the last two by Ron Newman.

Incidentally, another "David Lee" is listed in the Cipriano documents as a lover of Graham Berry, but I highly doubt it is the same one. It would certainly be an eye-opener but I'm about 100% certain that isn't the case.

Here commence the old posts concerning David Lebeau our new buddy and apparently the replacement for the aging Gene Ingram.

It appears we underestimated this character when he was merely an imbecile flipping the bird to photographers and cruising around Clearwater in a weird "Arnie Lerma mask."

It obviously really got the cult's goat when people started digging for the criminal past of this slimeball (what's this about an alleged drug bust?) but nobody ever followed this up at the time.

NOW is the time, when this criminal is in the public eye.
Subject: Dave Lebeau
Date: 03/25/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

I will no longer post about matters concerning Dave Lebeau.

-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: wise up?
Date: 03/25/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

Recieved via email this afternoon.
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Subject: wise up!
To: rayr@ezlink.com wise up randolph! your job is next.

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-Ray -- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Cmsg cancel <352e092f.946294904@news.newsguy.com>
Date: 03/24/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

It's not worth the effort arguing with these criminals. Yes, this is a legit cancel.

-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Goood Moooorning OSA: 300,000,000 bucks
Date: 03/24/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

So I've made my list of Scientology connected millionaires to contact.

At the top of my list is Robert E. C. Wegner.

Imagine my surprise, then, when I find that he's gone and SUED another millionaire Scientologist? Wow! I wonder why. Interestingly, it's for financial mismanagement. Not on the $100/scale, either... but on the multi-million dollar scale.

And I'll just be *damned* if it isn't Ellenburg who was sued!

Is that why the Ellenburg Corp is being dissolved against Mr. Ellenburgs will? Rumor has it that it has something to do with that $300,000,000 real estate deal, and all those very bizarre mortgages. Makes one think of the word "Usury" again. And just WHY does Ellenburg keep popping up?
Of course, following Dave's lead, I'll investigate this. I've received the latest round of inspiration. Where might I start?

I might need help on this one, maybe I can hire Jason's dad.

I also would like to announce that the following individuals will be receiving one of my t-shirts, along with a nicely formatted DA pack on your criminal cult employers (no copyright violations, though! hehe):

Spencer Abraham Daniel Akaka Wayne Allard John Ashcroft Now... if you're really smart, you might realize that those are the the names of Senators. Hey! And if you were going to turn your magnifying glass on those names, you'd see they're all the senators whose name ends with an A. Are your detecting skills telling you anything yet? No? Ok... I'll explain it for you.

A comes first...then B... and then C...etc.

-*Ready for Round 3*- -Ray p.s., Dave, you made a better salesman...go back to that job. I think your employer recognizes the games condition here. In fact, I know they do - the question is... how long will they tolerate it? Also, have there been billing disputes? It's my belief (and I'm not alone) that you've been taking them for a bit of a ride.

-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: To Dave Lebeau & Friends
Date: 03/22/1998
Author: Ray - Take a check? - Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:12:07 +0100 (MET), nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:

>Here is one suggestion I have for your friend:
>"Randolph Cheats" is a better profitable business for selling T-shirts
>- at least then he would be selling the truth. Actually you just gave
>me a great idea. I am creating the "Ray Randolph Creditors" page. Hope
>this will satisfy your eagerness to know the facts. I welcome your
>suggestions for the design of the "Ray Randolph Creditors" page.
Well, I wish you luck in your web page, "Martin Lasher." (although I find it funny where THAT name has lead me to. Hint: There's a phone message waiting.)

As for my credit? Fucking horribly awful. No question about it.

I have had serious problems. Being out of work twice in a year and going through a divorce certainly didn't help any.

Have I bounced checks? Yes...lots, unfortunately... and there's more than what they posted, a lot more. Have I and do I owe people money? Yes. Absolutely. Have I worked hard to see that everyone gets paid? Yes. Absolutely. And of course, all the items that you posted WERE paid in full long ago. MOST of my outstanding debts have been paid, and after years of really difficult financial struggles, with some exceptions, I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I suffered about the worst financial situation that a person could suffer without filing bankruptcy. Most people would have filed bankruptcy, but I did not. I'm not debt free...but I'm working at it.

I find it unsurprising that scientology's PI's at the behest of Dave Lebeau - drug user - would use my financial past as some kind of dead agent materials. In fact, I had made the decision long ago that I was ready for it to be made public. What I find fascinating, is the way you use it to draw outrageous assertions with no element of truth. Daddys Car? A used car salesman should know that it's not unusual to buy a car from ones own family, you should've consulted with him first. And your research is a bit out of date...that too was paid for some time ago. I figured you would've posted the much more scandalous fact that my plates expired 2 weeks ago, and I totally forgot to get them updated. Or was that slated for a later post?

What's my impression thus far? It was exactly what I expected, but perhaps you missed the message. Here is the relevant portion, from the day after mine and Dave's initial phone call:

------begin----- If I were to have my history investigated, and all the many and various things I've done wrong were found out (and there are many things, and they ARE various, I am after all A Human Being(tm) and not "pure as the driven snow," like scientology officials)...and should those things be posted on ARS and on the web for all to see...

And should they be distributed to my family and my friends and my loved ones and my neighbors as has been done with Vaughn Young, Stacy Young, Gerry Armstrong, Arnie Lerma, Lawrence Wollersheim, Bob Minton and so many, many other people. Then I would stand up and take the embarassment with pride and defiance... because when it's all said and done.... I couldn't ask for better company.

-----end----- So you see, all you've done is met my expectations.

Oh..and as for me hiding my financial problems? Perhaps you missed this from my web page:

---begin-------- I hardly have a spotless past, I've had massive financial difficulties, I've had traffic infractions, and one that resulted in a bench warrant as a result of me being out of the country at the time of its hearing.

-----end------ That was added Thursday, December 11, 1997 7:16:52 GMT.

In fact, I predicted then that you would investigate me.

So the LAST person it surprises is me. Keep going... I'm cool with it. I'll even link to your Ray Randolph Creditors page... Sound fair?

The hilarious part of this, in terms of Dave Lebeau, is that I haven't had to do shit. People hate Dave so much that they just feed me the information from all over the place.. I get anonymous emails in steady stream about him. In fact, my investigation has been 98% mythical. Because the information comes from Dave's bigger enemies and requires no investigation at all on my part. Rather than improving his image and working on his problems he kills the messenger. (social skills, being one of his many problems...but is there REALLY a drug problem Dave? I mean really? Is that something you're past. If you're past it, let me know...I'll drop it. Otherwise I want you to get help for it. Okay? Your anti-drug employer probably would want you to seek help, too. It could be OUT-PR for them to employ you if there really IS a problem. I hope there isn't...drugs are bad news, my friend. Even if you're the bad guy... I care.)

Don't you wish you knew who was mailing me, though? I mean then you could attack them and dig up THEIR dirt, or have your friends in Burbank or that old-fart Gene do it for you. And that, really is where the humor comes into play... I just have the balls to repost stuff -- but it's really other people you should be worried about.

That's gotta irritate you. I understand.

Will I keep posting the Dave Lebeau info? Probably the info on his movements.. But I'm going to leave it alone otherwise. I won't post info about his past relationships, for example - even though I could. So if Dave Lebeau is looking for a truce, that's the best I have to offer.

Although sometimes when I get mad, there's no telling what I'll post.

I'm wacky that way.

Love ya, -Ray "take a check?" Randolph ps to Dave - it's lonely on the road. Don't do anything you'll be ashamed of. It might get posted to ARS, and if it did... cripes, what if it found its way to *her*? I don't condone that...but there's all sorts of people who WOULD do so, and your REAL enemies are not me - which I think should be obvious from the info I'm getting. I'm too busy poking around Digital Lightwave to bother replying to you any further, so I hope this answers all your questions.
-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Gooood Morning OSA
Date: 03/22/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>
My OSA Friends, I made some phone calls saturday! Did you hear about them?

I STILL can't believe that Norton S. Karno didn't know he was mentioned in "L. Ron Hubbard, Madman Or Messiah." Can you imagine?

He does now, though. I'm sure OSA intended to tell him when the book came out...they probably just forgot. Never you mind though...I got it all fixed up for you.

Very pleasant fellow to chat with, too! He actually expressed his enjoyment at our conversation...seems I made his "boring saturday" an exciting one.

I find it really hard to believe that he could be cited for contempt like he was recently with his pal Ellenburg....I mean he was VERY nice. And rich!

Whew! What's Karno worth? A billion dollars? (I didn't ask for a loan to pay off my debts, but I was tempted. I hear his interest rates are usurious, though. hehe JOKE!...) Karno funds a lot of your biggest boys, doesn't he?

Ellenburg, Zwan, Dohring and Michael Edwards (AKA Dick Weigand)?

I was inspired by Dave Lebeau & Friends investigative abilities. When I see their influence on ARS, I'm just compelled to pick up the phone and try it myself (*I* use my real name, though.) You know what they say... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And not only that...

but these money fellows... I could get used to chatting them up. They're a friendly bunch of millionaires!

Have you considered purchasing a new leash for David?

-Ray -- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Dave Lebeau returns?
Date: 03/19/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

Interesting informating about Dave Lebeau is surfacing.. How he got into the PI business.

What he did before... So much more!

I believe that Dave Lebeau is returning from the UK. I will confirm when I'm sure he's reached the US again.
-Ray ++++ Subject: Re: Dave Lebeau returns?
Date: 03/19/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

In article <6ers3e$759@drn.newsguy.com>, Ray says...

>
>Interesting informating about Dave Lebeau is surfacing.. How he got into the PI
>business. What he did before... So much more!
>
>I believe that Dave Lebeau is returning from the UK. I will confirm when I'm
>sure he's reached the US again.
I spoke too soon!! As of today, Dave Lebeau is still in the UK.

-Ray ++++ Subject: Dave Lebeau In UK
Date: 03/15/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

For those in the UK. David "Lee" Lebeau is visiting your area of the world.

I'm sure he's there doing some nastiness for the church, so keep your eyes open!

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++
Subject: Update on Dave Lebeau
Date: 03/13/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

David Lee's real name *IS* in fact, Dave Lebeau. That has been confirmed. However, some previous information I had received on Dave Lebeau may have been faulty - but interesting none-the-less.

Apparently the Dave Lee who does investigative work for Price Waterhouse was NOT the same Dave Lee (we have an age difference that doesn't compute!). This is significant only in the sense that Dave Lebeau MAY have assumed this identity on purpose.

Riding on someone elses reputation is always easier than making your own.

The price waterhouse issue is becoming rather muddy, so I will probably abandon that track altogether. But the other items, such as the rumored drug arrest, being declined PI licenses in two states, etc., are starting to look more interesting. Further, there's real estate holdings in California and rumoured real estate holdings in Washington DC.

Last sighting of Dave Lebeau was Tuesday in New York. I'm still looking at the Sun Tendy America connections. More info as I get it.
One thing is sure... Dave Lebeau has made a LOT of enemies.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: David Lee/Lebau in NYC
Date: 03/09/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

David Lee/Lebau is apparently in New York City... He visited a place called "Sun Tendy USA." Sun Tendy is a business located within the World Trade Center... They list their address as: "One World Trade Center, Suite 4643"

What is David Lee's connection to Sun Tendy? Why does he visit their offices?

-Ray ++++ Subject: David Lee/Lebau Traveling
Date: 03/06/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

David Lee/Lebau has left the Boston area to travel. I expect he's headed to Southern California...but I'll let everyone know for sure later.

-Ray ++++ Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 03/05/1998
Author: Ray Randolph <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

>David Lee is not well-known in the very small town of Cedaredge
>or in the rest of the sparsely populated county (25,000 people).
>The responses to inquiries can be summed up as "Who? Never heard
>of him".
>
>There isn't any COS activity in the area.

Ron, Pass on to your source that David Lee's real last name may be Lebau (not sure of correct spelling). Also, for those people in the UK, I need information on the following:

A company called LEE & ALLEN, they were "Forensic Financial Investigators," that got a lot of press in the London Financial Times. I'm not interested in LFT articles, I have them all.

But I am interested in LEE & ALLEN and what happened to it.

And any other sightings of Dave Lebau/Lebeau/Lee. I've been informed that David may have had some trouble in the UK under one of the Lebau names. BTW, that's pronounced "Leh Bo."

Once again, send leads this way.

Dave's drug arrest is also of particular concern to me.

I would like some more information on this alleged arrest, and specifically, I'd like to know if Dave Lebau was convicted.

The CoS needs to study its own Overt Motivator Sequence.

-Ray ++++ Subject: INFO: More on David Lee
Date: 03/04/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

Ooooh! Today, only day four of my investigation, brings some very interesting rumors about Mr. David Lee.

There's stories about a drug arrest.

There's stories of being denied PI licenses in MULTIPLE states!

There's stories of working under *someone elses* license cuz he couldn't get his own! (so guess why he's working outta colorado now? hehe) There's stories about his father.... whose coattails Davey rode on. The REAL spook of the family, was Mr. Lee Sr., Not Davey Jr..

Are all these stories true?! As usual, any info should be sent my way. Time, and a few more weeks behind the magnifying glass should bring out the whole truth.

I highly recommend that EVERYONE in the ARSCC pick up a magnifying glass and the fancy double-brimmed-sherlock-holmes-style-hat...

They are required investigative tools...and they truly do help.

-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: ATTENTION GRADY
Date: 03/04/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

I have reason to believe that Scientology Private Investigator David Lee has fraudulently pulled banking and credit information on me. In addition to a phone call he made to my mother this weekend, which seems to be saying "We know where your family is." In fact, David Lee admitted to me in a phone call that he pulled banking records just this last week.

As is now widely known, I am to testify in Grady Wards Trial.

I believe that the sudden attention from Scientology hired PI David Lee, his call to me and his call to my Mother, may be an attempt at witness tampering in an overall effort to stop me from testifying and stop me from criticising not just him, but the criminal cult of scientology.

It has become clear to me that this cult will do ANYTHING to win the Grady case, despite the truth.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Dave Lee/Lebeau
Date: 03/04/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

Is David Lee's real last name Dave LEE, or Dave Lebeau? I have reason to think he may have used both names interchangably. Why is that?

Did he buy real estate under Dave Lebeau?

++++ Subject: INFO: The David Lee Saga
Date: 03/03/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

Sunshine Truly IS the best disinfectant...

Here's a list of what I know about David Lee thus far... if anyone can add to my knowledge, even trivial amounts of information, it would be a great a help.

Btw, since in Colorado, anyone can be just like David Lee... I've taken the liberty of adding "Private Investigator" to my .signature.

I do, however, promise to not get fired in my duties as PI for "unethical or criminal investigations."
On to the facts:

1. David Lee works out of LA.

2. He claims to work from Omega Legal Services AKA Omega Legal Investigations in Cederedge Colorado.

3. The "business" in Cederedge Colorado is owned by one "George Bacon." More on him later - does he really exist? hmmmm.

4. The "business" is not storefront at all. But someones house with a phone line in it.

5. Two sources indicate to me that Dave is or was licensed in Washington prior to his work in the UK.

6. MULTIPLE sources also indicate that In the 1980's Mr Lee went to work for Price Waterhouse as their Lead Investigator.

7. I now have three sources that indicate that Mr Lee was fired from Price Waterhouse for "Illegal and Unethical investigations," or at the very least seriously bungling investigations for Price Waterhouse.

[- Quick question: did the church hire him because they DID know about his "unethical and illegal" methods, or because they DIDN'T know? Either seems likely...-] 8. According to a handful of sources, Dave has claimed to work FOR U.S. Government Intelligence agencies in the past. This claim is false. In the call to me, Dave denied ever making such a claim, but in fact, he did so (according to sources) to get his lead investigator job at Price Waterhouse. Dave claimed on the phone that he has worked WITH people from the "FBI and Secret Service". Well, shit, Dave. So have I. In fact, I've worked with people from the FBI, British SAS, I've done self-defense training with Navy Seals and worked with two people from NSA. I mean shit, dude...that's a stupid claim. Drop it, okay? Cuz it doesn't impress anyone. Just about everyone I know has worked with someone neat. Working with someone neat doesn't make YOU neat. Geddit? Good.

9. Other Private Investigators who have worked with Dave Lee in the past don't think very highly of his skills or his personality. But then...neither do we.

He's the PI equivelant of a shit-shoveler. I tried to convince him to find better clients, but he didn't seem interested in my advice. So let him shovel the shit...s'cool with me.

10. There was speculation that David Lee misrepresented his credentials to get his current job with OSA. Which I find just fuckingly hilarious.

11. One source puts David Lee's going rate at $150/hour from the cult. But that seems extremely unlikely. More realistically, he's likely pulling in $80 to $90/hour.

12. Two overseas sources inform me that Dave uses an alias from time to time of "Dave Lebow." Dave flat out denied this to me when I asked if "Lebow" (or is it Leboe?) was his real last name. I suspect it's more likely that he used the name on some previous cases, or one case in particular.

Today, David Lee is in Boston still, but his movements around the country should be pretty easy to follow from here on out (I'm loving these new detective clothes, and all my new detective friends from Boston and other places where Dave has left his nasty impressions behind).

See the Dave Lee Picture Page at:

http://www.scientology-kills.net/dave_lee/ Next on my list:

1. What REALLY happened at Price Waterhouse, and what does Price Waterhouse have to say? Why did Price Waterhouse push Dave out the door real quiet like?

2. Some folks at the London Financial Times know about David Lee! What do they know? Will they trade info? Hah! I bet they will!

Also, check out the attached article!
----begin article---- Copyright 1992 The Financial Times Limited;

Financial Times (London) June 19, 1992, Friday SECTION: Pg. 9 LENGTH: 545 words HEADLINE: The Maxwells: Police helped by accountants BYLINE: By ANDREW JACK BODY:

THE ARRESTS of Mr Kevin Maxwell, Mr Ian Maxwell and Mr Larry Trachtenberg yesterday by the Serious Fraud Office follow several months of inquiries by a team of more than 50 police officers and other staff, given considerable support by accountants acting as administrators to the Maxwell companies.

The SFO staff is still working on further investigations which may lead to additional charges in the coming months.

Mr John Tate is controller of the SFO Maxwell team, which includes several lawyers and up to 30 accountants seconded from the forensic division of KPMG Peat Marwick.

But besides its own inquiries, the SFO has also been able to draw on information from the substantial investigations work conducted by accountants who were administrators acting on behalf of creditors to the Maxwell public and private companies.

Mr John Talbot, a partner with Arthur Andersen, has co-ordinated the administration of the private Maxwell business empire of more than 400 companies.

The firm passed information on alleged MCC share support operations to the SFO.

Mr David Lee, head of the litigation and special investigation services unit at Price Waterhouse, administrators to Maxwell Communications Corporation, has been equally important.

Mr Neil Cooper, the partner at Robson Rhodes, liquidator to Bishopsgate Investment Management, manager and trustee of the pension funds, has also been investigating movements of money.

The accountants have had access to information not available to the police under special powers given to them by the 1986 insolvency act.

So-called 'section 236' interviews allow them to ask questions of individuals, who have no right to silence. This information cannot be passed on to police.

There have been regular meetings to share other information by the different accountants and the SFO. Private investigators have also been employed to help trace assets and identify movements of money.

The SFO has publicly announced five separate inquiries between November 1991 and January this year in conjunction with the City of London police, to which some of yesterday's charges relate:

November 18, 1991: a Pounds 55m loan from Swiss Bank Corporation to Adviser (188), a company owned by Headington Investments, after a complaint from Swiss Bank Corporation December 4: allegations concerning the management of assets of the Mirror Group Newspapers Pension Fund December: further allegations concerning money missing from MGN, following a complaint from Mirror Group December 18: arrangements made to support the price of MCC shares, following receipt of information from Arthur Andersen, administrators of the private Maxwell interests passed to the Department of Trade and Industry January 3 1992: assets including cash and investments removed from MCC, launched following investigations by Price Waterhouse, administrators to MCC The charges against Mr Kevin and Mr Ian Maxwell and Mr Larry Trachtenberg appear to relate principally to the Swiss Bank Corporation loan and alleged thefts of pension fund money.

There is no mention of share support allegations, by which directors buy shares in their own companies but do not disclose the purchases as required by UK company legislation.

-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Private Investigator, Prozac abuser, and rogue gue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Lee & Allen
Date: 03/03/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

I'm looking for information on a UK Company called "Lee & Allen" that was formed in the mid 1990's by David Lee and Tim Allen. David Lee had "resigned" (some speculation that he was fired) from Price Waterhouse and started Lee & Allen in an attempt to set up what the London Financial Times called "The Big Seventh."

Is 'Lee & Allen' still around? Does anyone have any information on David Lee and what became of him? Or Tim Allen for that matter?

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ From: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com
Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 02 Mar 1998 00:00:00 GMT
In article <rnewman-ya02408000R0203981035490001@enews.newsguy.com, rnewman@thecia.net says...

>Lots of people there could relay info about D.L. and/or Omega. Anyone need to
>know anything?
>Yes, everything and anything you can find out -- starting with what kind of
>building is located at
>the address given above.
It's someones house. -Ray ++++ Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 03/02/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

In the 1980's a Private investigator named David Lee left the US to work in the UK. He got a job as head of the special investigative unit for Price Waterhouse, where he apparently made false claims of having worked for various Government agencies as an intelligence operative.

According to my source on this info, after many bungled investigations, and a rash of "criminal and unethical private investigations", David Lee was sent packing. Price Waterhouse kept mostly quiet about this because of the fact that they considered it largely an extremely embarassing episode, considering the sensitive financial nature of their work, they didn't need or want a scandal.

-- As was somewhat expected, David Lee - Scientology PI - did call me tonight. He claimed that some of the information in my previous post was not correct. I would point out that in general, the information comes from multiple sources, and I trust those sources. Also, interestingly enough, he'd done at least some checking into my background. Enough to know about money problems that I'd had in the past.

I know that David will be reading this post, so I feel that I would like to address him directly with the following paragraphs.
David, You expressed some surprise at the fact that I was spending no small amount of effort in investigating you. You're right. I am. And there is a reason. You have chosen a side in this battle and you are, to put it bluntly, one of "them," and you're in the way. You expressed that my actions have the potential of making this "personal," and I know you didn't mean that as a direct threat, but you meant that you will become interested in this person who's suddenly posting your darkest secrets. The irony is staggering. The man who investigates backgrounds to find dirt is having his background investigated to find dirt and is upset enough to retaliate by finding dirt on the man who investigates his background.

If I were to have my history investigated, and all the many and various things I've done wrong were found out (and there are many things, and they ARE various, I am after all A Human Being(tm) and not "pure as the driven snow," like scientology officials)...and should those things be posted on ARS and on the web for all to see... And should they be distributed to my family and my friends and my loved ones and my neighbors as has been done with Vaughn Young, Stacy Young, Gerry Armstrong, Arnie Lerma, Lawrence Wollersheim, Bob Minton and so many, many other people. Then I would stand up and take the embarassment with pride and defiance... because when it's all said and done.... I couldn't ask for better company.

-Ray -- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 03/01/1998 Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:24:42 GMT, seekon@cyberpromo.com (Conner) wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:46:11 GMT, in message
>><35007146.338812206@news.newsguy.com>,
rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com >(The Ray Randolph Problem) wrote:

> david lee is a 3rd rate cocksucking snooping whore, who
> has no understanding of intelligence, operations, or investigations.
> btw, david lee works out of your neck of the woods, for
> Omega Legal Investigations
> 1825 Ginters GRV, Cedaredge, CO 81413
> (970) 856-6768
Not quite... It's appearing to be a front. More info coming soon!

-Ray -- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults. $cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: I touched a nerve...
Date: 03/01/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

I must have touched a nerve with my "What is David Lee Doing?" post.

This morning at approximately 11am MST, Unethical, Scientology-Cult PI, David Lee called my mother in order to obtain my phone number. In fact, he already had it, and my mother verified that the number he had was correct.

-Ray -- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

$cientology KILLS T-shirts http://www.scientology-kills.net/t-shirt/ ++++ Subject: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 02/28/1998
Author: The Ray Randolph Problem <rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com>

I've now been asked to meet with David Lee, although he's been asking to meet with me for several weeks, ever since I called him a "whore."

Heh. (well? He is!).

I got to thinking about why in the world Mr. Lee is contacting us (besides the money... remember that when you agree to talk to him, he's getting paid over $50/hour to chat with you).

One of the things that OSA has done to deal with the "ars situation"

is create an Org Board, which they believe represents the internet critics. Those who were in know exactly what I mean.

The ORG Board is command lines and a ranking heirarchy that they think applies to ARS. I imagine that the ORG Board they're using looks something like this MINTON | --------------------------------------------- | | | | | RVY LERMA WOLLERSHEIM ARMSTRONG SCARFF | | | | | Keller Newman Randolph Holmes ETC.

| Dozens of other arsers
Obviously this is a FRACTION of the ORG Board.

You get the idea. The third tier is completely arbitrary in terms of my guesses, except that I know that THEY believe the person above me on this "pretend Org board" is Wollersheim. (They're deluded).

Now the purpose of doing this ORG Board is to do several things:

1. Define Comm Lines 2. Define Lines of Command 3. Define weak points.

You can see that what they are doing with Dave Lee is attacking the middle ranks. It's a strategy outlined in Art of war. It would be equivelant of knocking the "middle management" out of a company leaving only the high ranking officials and thousands of aimlessly wandering employees. It's sowing dissension in the ranks, and attempting to cut out the heart of ARS.

So David Lee talks to me, Ron Newman, and no doubt, before long, Rod Keller, Dr. Dave, Deanna Holmes, and others will be contacted.

If you're contacted by David Lee, you know where you sit in their Org Board of ARS - They consider you a threat - not so great and terrible as the irredeemable "critics" above you on the Org Board, but great enough that *they believe* you to be an opinion leader of ARS.

David will meet with you, making $50/hour, and he'll schmooze, dump all kinds of DA materials, etc on you. All in the hopes that you'll turn against your superior. Ron Newman was DA'd over everyone "uplines" from him. I expect that any conversation I had with David Lee would include much about Wollersheim, even though it doesn't seem like Wollersheim was mentioned in David Lee's call to Ron Newman.

Would the CoS really do an ORG Board of ARS? I hope Vaughn Young or some other high level ex would correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that they have to. In fact, the church teaches that the org chart can be applied to all areas of ones life -- which is the focus of the Key To Life course (Doing an Org Chart of your own life...)
WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS?

Not a damn thing. heh. Who cares? The beauty of ARS is that it IS a lot of independants, acting independantly in the same direction. So although the church is entirely sure that that line between myself and Wollersheim exists...they are, in fact, wrong. Although sometimes ARS might have comm lines that the church works very hard to outline, ARS also shifts rapidly and unpredictable. What they fail to understand, is that if I want a comm line to Wollersheim, or Minton, or anyone...

I'll fucking mock one up and unmock the bugger when I'm done with it. ;) You can see the levels of "organization" they're trying to impose on their version of ARS. It's pounding a square peg into a round hole, and their silly tech doesn't work like it does on a real organization.

My suggestions for the David Lee "issue":

1. Do not meet with him. There's a great possibility that he's just making lots of money by having a useless conversation with you.

2. If you insist on meeting with him. Insist on tape recording the meeting.

David Lee is being bred to be the new Ingram. Gene is a PR liability and the church is holding off on using him too much because he's too well known. Additionally, "Clean" Gene has some personal problems that are interfering with his work with Scientology. David L. has the added bonus of being *ever so slightly* net-savvy - Gene is a dinosaur, who doesn't make such adjustments very easily. Poor guy.

They don't wanna tell him that to his face though, but his scn superiors do consider him a relic.

Dave L. also frequently makes the claim of having worked for various arms of certain Secret Gov't agencies. These claims of his are purely made-up bullshit. He's used these bogus claims to try to get jobs in the past. In the PI world, Dave L. thinks he's Hot Shit, but his fellow PI's seem to think he's not very good. Mostly Puffery. The fancy nickname that he goes by, although he thinks it's cool, other PI's tend to just make fun of it when he's not there.

So you'll really be dealing with a third-rate PI. But one who is still willing to do the work that Gene Ingram was so famous for.

There's a lot of information coming to me about David L. Look for it to be posted here. Gotta love it...when the investigator gets investigated.

-Ray p.s., please don't get offended if you weren't listed in the ORG chart or dont like where I put you. It was a bloody EXAMPLE! and as such... it threw it together arbitrarily. The link between me and wollersheim is the only one I'm certain of.
-- Michael Ray Randolph -- rayr@ezlink.com -- SP4 w/Clam Cluster Unemployed German Psychiatrist, Prozac abuser, and rogue agent aiding in the suppression of silly cults.

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Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 03/05/1998
Author: Ron Newman <rnewman@thecia.net>

> > david lee is a 3rd rate cocksucking snooping whore, who
> > has no understanding of intelligence, operations, or investigations.
> > btw, david lee works out of your neck of the woods, for
> > Omega Legal Investigations
> > 1825 Ginters GRV, Cedaredge, CO 81413
> > (970) 856-6768
> If this information is accurate I know that territory.
> He's located just north of Cedaredge east of Hwy 65
> with R-75 road to the south and S-25 to the north.
> Ginters is a short loop road that runs south from S-25
> and then back north to S-25.
> This address is almost on the west bank of Surface Creek.
> Most likely a residence - no businesses there. Rock,
> scrub oak, diseased hares, and it is dry semi-arid land
> at about 6500 feet altitude.

Someone sent me the following information about this house:

-------------------------- Here's the report on the physical description of the building at 1825 Ginters Grove, Cedaredge, CO.

It is a two story L-shaped house described as tall and narrow.

It has burnt-orange siding with brown wood trim. It sits on a landscaped lot and the house sits among a few trees. There is an unattached garage. There are two second-story windows facing the roadway with all other windows facing away from the road.

There are no business signs - no vehicles were present at the time of observation. The house is valued at between $100,000 and $125,000. One description of the house was 'it's drab, I didn't like it".

David Lee is not well-known in the very small town of Cedaredge or in the rest of the sparsely populated county (25,000 people).

The responses to inquiries can be summed up as "Who? Never heard of him".

There isn't any COS activity in the area.

-- Ron Newman rnewman@thecia.net http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/ ++++ Subject: Re: What is David Lee Doing?
Date: 03/02/1998
Author: Ron Newman <rnewman@thecia.net>

In article <34f8539f.53709539@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, seekon@cyberpromo.com (Conner) wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:46:11 GMT, in message
> <35007146.338812206@news.newsguy.com>, rayr@delete.these.fields.ezlink.com
> (The Ray Randolph Problem) wrote:
>
> >I've now been asked to meet with David Lee, although he's been asking
> >to meet with me for several weeks, ever since I called him a "whore."
> >Heh. (well? He is!).
>
> david lee is a 3rd rate cocksucking snooping whore, who
> has no understanding of intelligence, operations, or investigations.
> btw, david lee works out of your neck of the woods, for
> Omega Legal Investigations
> 1825 Ginters GRV, Cedaredge, CO 81413
> (970) 856-6768
When he called me last Thursday, he gave the name of his agency as "Omega Legal Services" with a phone number of 818-754-2607. That's a Los Angeles phone number. BUT, he said that this was just an answering service, and he refused to tell me what state he was actually operating in.

A few minutes later when I mentioned Cedar Edge, Colorado to him, he seemed quite surprised.

-- Ron Newman rnewman@thecia.net http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/ ++++ oOoOoOo

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