||||| Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!peer01.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!cox.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssrv26.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Feisty" Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology References: Subject: Re: Hubbard quotes on psychs? Lines: 309 Organization: Tilton B. Sideways X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: <05ZIb.16727$aw2.9973550@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.72.100.3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssrv26.news.prodigy.com 1072979388 ST000 66.72.100.3 (Thu, 01 Jan 2004 12:49:48 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 12:49:48 EST X-UserInfo1: [[PAPDONXZUURVH[]BCBNWX@RJ_XPDLMN@GZ_GYO^BTJUZ]CDVW[AKK[J\]^HVKHG^EWZHBLO^[\NH_AZFWGN^\DHNVMX_DHHX[FSQKBOTS@@BP^]C@RHS_AGDDC[AJM_T[GZNRNZAY]GNCPBDYKOLK^_CZFWPGHZIXW@C[AFKBBQS@E@DAZ]VDFUNTQQ]FN Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:49:48 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.religion.scientology:1725674 Jeff Jacobsen wrote in message news:vv8hfrto70s289@corp.supernews.com... > > Is there a good list of Hubbard quotes on psychiatry? did he say that psychs > have been around for millions of years messing things up? HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex HCO POLICY LETTER OF 16 FEBRUARY, 1969 (snip) TARGETS, DEFENSE The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are: Tl. Depopularizing the enemy to a point of total obliteration. T2. Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media. T3. Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures. T4. Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance and shifting them to a less precarious finance standard. T5. Generally revitalizing the societies in which we are operating. T6. Winning overwhelming public support. T7. Use all other similar groups as allies. These, of course, are very long range targets. But it is what must be done to continue the longevity of our organization. Our only justification for doing these things is that Scientology is the only game where everyone wins. The names and connections, at this time, of the bitterly opposing enemy are: 1. Psychiatry and psychology (not medicine). 2. The heads of news media who are also directors of psychiatric front groups. 3. A few key political figures in the fields of "mental health" and education. 4. A decline of monetary stability caused by the current planning of bankers who are also directors of psychiatric front organizations would make us unable to function. === and another one: There's only one remedy for crime--get rid of the psychs! They are causing it! [8] --L. Ron Hubbard from the good writing of Caroline Letkeman: From: antivirus Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Hubbard on Freud and Psychiatry--repost Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:01:42 -0700 Hubbard ® On Freud and Psychiatry Hubbard said this about Freud: The old man was all right. His work back around 1894, we can use it. After that his work goes off very rapidly in its quality. It's very poor. But there, the early part of it is good. His equation, "Full recall equals full sanity," whether he realized it or not, was the key that unlocked the door.[1] --L. Ron Hubbard ® Freud worked together with Josef Breuer between 1885 and 1894. [2] In 1895 Breuer split from Freud when the direction of Freud's research turned to sexuality as an underlying cause for neurosis. Prior to that, the method of treatment was a light hypnosis, during which the patient was made to recall past memories associated with the symptoms being treated. After his split with Breuer, Freud further developed his libido theory and began to prefer psychoanalysis (free association) over hypnosis. Snake Thompson, Hubbard's teenage tutor, apparently had these sentiments about Freud--he rejected Freud's later developments and preferred hypnosis over later psychoanalytic methods. Dianetics ® "reverie" is a light form of hypnosis, Hubbard's denials to the contrary. And here's another Hubbard quote: I'm also writing up a book on the subject of Freudian self-analysis. It will be published in the Journal. The reason for this is very plain. The Freudians and psychoanalysts all agree more or less on a lot of hogwash about the second dynamic (utterly missing the sixth).[*] Sure enough, solving the second dynamic is fairly important in a case. This lean towards Freud is to show that those things on which people in psychiatry, etc., have agreed are solved with sudden finality by Scientology ®. That makes up the agreement continuation of all psychotherapy and gives us legal standing. It also gives us the impact of all Freudian lay following which isn't slight. So bear with me on this Freud excursion. We're not okaying Freud and saying sex is all. We simply say we solve Freud too. [3] --L. Ron Hubbard [*] The second dynamic in Scientology ® is the urge an individual has to survive for sex and the family. The sixth dynamic is the urge to survive for matter, energy, space and time. That book was and is called Self-Analysis, and it is used today as part of Scientology's Bridge ® to Total Freedom. In the referenced associate newsletter, Hubbard again parroted his tutor's sentiments by criticizing Freud's libido theory developments on sexuality. They really liked that hypnosis therapy though. Freud, with no method of direct observation, spoke of pre-natals, birth trauma, and verbally, if not in writing, of past existences and of the continuing immorality of the individual. No praise can be great enough to give such a man, and the credit I give him for my own inspiration and work is entirely without reservation or bounds. My only regret is that I do not know where he is to-day to show him his 1894 libido theory completely vindicated and a Freudian psychoanalysis delivered beyond his expectations in five hours of auditing.[4] --L. Ron Hubbard Hubbard's original curriculum for his doctorate course included correspondence courses "on various subjects such as philosophy [and] psychology;" [5] On 10 March 1954 Hubbard announced in Hubbard Association of Scientologists: Additional alliance has been made with a corporation, THE FREUDIAN FOUNDATION OF AMERICA to train and certify psychoanalysts and psychotherapists (the latter being the junior grade). The predominant communication line of the society at this time is psychoanalysis. Freud's books are very well known. By arrangements made in Europe and otherwise it is possible to issue certification as Freudian analysts. In that Freud, as a pioneer, introduced the basic idea that illness can stem from mental causes, and in that his work is well known, it is not unseemly to carry out his aims and goals. As he prescribed no exact process and as Scientology on its lowest rung solves Freudian problems never before solved, Scientology is of course desirable in this field. Further, Freud's work holds out hope which does not materialize and so tends to dead end those seeking help in mental problems. To remove this roadblock by applying what is now known would seem to be a social contribution.[6] --L. Ron Hubbard In that same issue he announced that graduates of his Advanced Clinical Course could be given one or more certificates as follows: Doctor of Scientology; Freudian Psychoanalyst or Doctor of Divinity. Scientology rants about the evils of psychotherapy and psychiatry, even though the very foundations of their pseudo-science came to them from a Freudian analyst, Joseph Cheesman Thompson, whose own dream was to give lay analysts the same status as medical psychoanalysts. [7] From the start of Dianetics, Hubbard was trying to corner the mental health market and to compete with Freud himself. In the years following, Hubbard began to incorporate his paranoia and hatred of psychiatry into his doctrine, to the point where current Scientology considers psychiatry and psychiatrists "Public Enemy #1." The vicious attacks that Scientology makes against psychiatry are underwritten by Hubbard's cosmology which convicts psychiatrists of being the sole cause of decline of this civilization and of being the universal villain for time immemorial. They say that poverty makes crime. They say if one improved education there would be less crime. They say if one cured the lot of the underprivileged one would solve crime. All these "remedies" have proven blatantly false. In very poor countries there is little crime. The "improving" education, it was tailored to "social reform," not teaching skills. And it is a total failure. The fact that rewarding the underprivileged has simply wrecked schools and neighborhoods and cost billions is missing. So who is "they"? The psychologist and psychiatrist of course. These were their crackpot remedies for crime. And it's wrecked a civilization. So what IS the cause of crime? The treatment, of course! Electric shocks, behavior modification, abuse of the soul. These are the causes of crime. There would be no criminals at all if the psychs had not begun to oppress beings into vengeance against society. There's only one remedy for crime--get rid of the psychs! They are causing it! [8] --L. Ron Hubbard Hubbard assigned to psychiatrists the distinction of being the core reason for all of man's troubles. This sentiment is indoctrinated into Scientologists on both conscious and unconscious levels. It is no mystery why Scientologists attack psychiatry with unrelenting viciousness--it is programmed into their unconscious minds by a man who was driven by fear and paranoia, and who wanted nothing more fervently than to engender the same sentiments in his members. Hubbard has Scientologists believing utterly that the fundamental barrier to their spiritual freedom is psychiatry and psychiatrists. Hubbard created a special rundown which is a prerequisite for Scientology's advanced levels. This rundown is called The False Purpose Rundown ®; its basis is a clear statement of Hubbard's own psychosis: The tech research done was quite extensive and involves several major discoveries. But I'll let you in on one thing: There were psychiatrists who existed way, way back on the track. ["Track": the period of time of man's existence--goes back trillions of years.] It was the aim of these psychs back on the whole track to very carefully push in people's anchor points to prevent them from reaching. The psychs were, themselves, a bunch of terrified cowards, and the prevention of reaching was one facet of their operation. Handling overts, withholds [*] and nonsurvival purposes with the False Purpose Rundown has proven highly effective in undoing the effects of the "work" of psychs on the whole track, and restoring the thetan's willingness and ability to reach. [9] --L. Ron Hubbard [*] Overts are transgressions or sins. Withholds are sins that have not been disclosed. Scientology auditing rearranges the unconscious affinities in the minds of its members. By creating a negative transference situation in the minds of Scientologists, Hubbard attempted to fulfill his personal goal of replacing psychiatry with his own black psychology. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Hubbard, L. Ron, Lecture 12 June 1950 The Conduct of an Auditor-Part 1 © 1994 L. Ron Hubbard Library [2] http://www.britannica.com/seo/j/josef-breuer/ [3] Hubbard, L. Ron, Associate Newsletter No. 7 late July 1953 © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard Library [4] Hubbard, L. Ron Creation of Human Ability © 1954 L. Ron Hubbard [5] Hubbard, L. Ron Associate Newsletter #8 late August 1953 © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard [6] LibraryHubbard, L. Ron Hubbard Association of Scientologists 10 March 1954 © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard Library [7] http://www.aapsa.org/for43_1.html [8] Hubbard, L. Ron HCOB 6 May 1982 The Cause of Crime © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard Library See also: Hubbard, L. Ron, HCOB 26 April 1982 The Criminal Mind and the Psychs © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard Library [9] Hubbard, L. Ron HCOB 5 June 1984R False Purpose Rundown © 1991 L. Ron Hubbard Library --- Happy New Year! Feisty > > * * * * * > For f**k sake if Scientology can be rated a religion then Pythology ought to qualify under any decent tax system. [Eric Idle]