||||| From: ptsc Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: How would Scientology know about Martin Ottmann's complaint? Organization: Busts Your Rips! Message-ID: <41771vgmu6pbmmrc39a5s5i9ovufuamr3b@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:57:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.33.64.22 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc03.gnilink.net 1041472678 4.33.64.22 (Wed, 01 Jan 2003 20:57:58 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 20:57:58 EST Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!nntp5.savvis.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc03.gnilink.net.POSTED!dfaeb1b4!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1583476 This subject has turned up in the Lisa McPherson case recently. I wonder if they found out about Martin's complaint through means similar to those to which Nancy Many attests in this section of her testimony. 10 Q Okay. What types of things did you do for the 11 Guardian's Office? 12 THE COURT: That does seem to be a little 13 far removed from this case. 1974 through 1976? 14 MR. DANDAR: It's all predicate, Judge. 15 I'll show you -- I'll show you a connection real soon. 16 THE COURT: All right. 17 A I did basically undercover work, pretty much what 18 a private -- what I feel a private investigator would do. 19 In fact, my husband at that time at one time was a private 20 investigator, and it wasn't that much different. 21 People would work at companies, myself included. 22 If things came up about Scientology, I would report them. 23 If reports were thrown in the trash, I would take them 24 home. If reports were there that might be of interest, I 25 would Xerox them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Volume 1, Page 20 1 THE COURT: Was this a Scientology-run 2 business? 3 THE WITNESS: Oh, no. These were like 4 government offices or companies. 5 THE COURT: Specifically, like what 6 government offices do you remember? 7 THE WITNESS: The attorney general's office 8 a friend of mine was at. I was at the Consumer 9 Council. They handled consumer complaints. Testimony of Nancy Many, July 12, 2002, Volume 1 http://www.whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/bob/A-018-071202-Many-V1.html -- Liberty is better served by presenting a clear target to one's opponents than by joining with them in an insincere and useless brotherliness. -Benedetto Croce