||||| From: ronthewarhero@yahoo.co.uk (Chris Owen) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology Subject: Highlights from the "Theta Talker" awards Date: 3 Dec 2002 17:44:31 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 279 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.117.133.118 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1038966271 9538 127.0.0.1 (4 Dec 2002 01:44:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Dec 2002 01:44:31 GMT Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1575035 alt.clearing.technology:187097 The Theta Talker e-mails at http://home.earthlink.net/~itheta/ita/thetatalker.html are pretty funny (and sad). I've rarely seen a better example of the sheer unreality that Scientologists appear to live in. Here's some highlights: [tomorrow belongs to us...] "More and more we are moving in. Whole countries appear to be falling into our laps, now. There isn't a week that goes by that you don't see a Scientologist on the cover of some magazine. We don't even think of it as unusual anymore or always buy them when we are waiting in line to pay for our groceries. Who has time to read them all?" [here's how that Dianetics number got given out as a "mental health" helpline on 9/11] "I just got off the phone with Ann at Bridge Publications. She told me that the Church's 1-800-FOR-TRUTH number is THE mental health number being flashed across the bottom of FOX and other major TV news channels. Ann told me they are flooded with calls. She explained that this is the result of the Volunteer Ministers working at ground zero. Out of the 120 relief volunteers at ground zero, 40 are Scientology Volunteer Ministers. This direct contact is how the 1-800-FOR-TRUTH number became THE mental health number to call." [make sure they produce before dropping their bodies!] "WIN with the group processing of old folks at nursing homes in LA We were providing the Scientology Church Service to 50-70 folks each week - the yearly production stat totaled 2400+ attendees at Scientology Church Services each year! That's a LOT of people receiving correct stable data before dropping their bodies!" [this next person mistook her ass for the universe] "Several of the last tapes blew entire gobs of charge for me as an auditor as he evaluated how his auditors were coming along and repeated basic auditing concepts. More false data and wrong cramming blew out of my universe!" [Earth calling Scientology... a Scientologist imagines what life will be like in the year 3500 after 1400 years of Scientology] "We are Division One Scanners - Planet IX of the Hubbard Dynamic, Fourth Federation Organizers. I don't know if you recall your seventh year history lessons, but there was a time long ago when people thought they were just a stew of chemical reactions. How entertaining they must seem to you younger beings, but remember that in those dark times, there were some strange misfits controlling certain commercially developed areas of the old prison planet. They called themselves "psychiatrists". They really didn't look much different from anyone else, despite the scary picture books you may have seen. They just had defective minds. This was way before The Founder came on the scene and found remedies for defects like psychiatry." [this next one is pretty sad] "volunteerminister some years ago curing his mother and others from cancer The scientologist explained, he was in despair, because he did not know what to do. The doctors at hospital, where his mother was a patient, had just told him that he migth aswell sell all her estate, because she would for sure not survive more than 14 days - max!!! While he was talking I remembered something I read in ALL ABOUT RADIATION about connection between cancer and radiation and I thougth I would have tried this vitamin formula developed by LHR in there, and then touch assist 3 times a day. So thats what I told the scientologist. So he started with small dosages of Niacin and the other vitamins and touch assist 3 times a day. - Slowly but surely the mother recovered and after 2 month she was able to get out of bed and - the new x-rays showed the cancer was completely gone. The son had had a win helping and then continued to help others he helped another cancer patient on a long distance commline in Germany. And the mother who was so gratefull gave her son what is equal to about 3000 dollars and he was able to pay for his CCRD and recieved it in AOSH EU." [a doctor writes - Megan Shields in this case] " "No Psychs" program for Scn at Glendale Memorial I'm here to give you some GOOD NEWS on the local medical scene. Thanks to the efforts of myself, Dr. Alderman, and staff at OSA, Glendale Memorial Hospital now has a special "No Psychs" program for Scientologists. Anyone could use it actually, and I already used it once on a non-Scientologist who hates psychs, too. I told them our position on psychiatry, and how many times Scientologists didn't feel safe going to the hospital. So now, at least at Glendale Memorial, you can go to the hospital and feel SAFE." [only Scientology can cure 9/11 trauma!] "This Sept. 11th event is an Engram. A group Engram to be sure but an Engram none-the-less. As Scientologists we are the only Auditor this country (and planet) has and it becomes our job to be effective. So, be very careful to keep yourself in Present Time and realize that being sympathetic and putting all YOUR attention on this Engram won't help. You'll notice that the news is repeating the Engram over and over and continues to keep it restimulated. The country is trying to "run out" the incident by repeating it and worrying about it and thinking about it. They are missing any Technology other than ours that will actually help." [do they have an address that isn't in the "physical universe"?] "If you are interested in getting more active in taking out the psychs in your immediate area, contact me about a new project that will knock their socks off! Send me your phone and physical universe address, as I can't discuss this over email." [the study tech once again fails the literacy test] "Ingo did Reach and Withdraw on an area of my work and it went incredible! I had a lot of cognitions in the field. That I work, I am an actor, and it worked incredible this process, I am more able now to communicate to the camera, the casting director, the script, the writer, the place at work, it was AMAZING!! I understand. The camera, the writer, the sides, the place, VERY INCREDIBLE!!" [Jesus healing the crippled is old hat - Ron can do it too] "[Ron] was processing. The fellow had been in the Russian army, had fought in the battle of Stalingrad and then had been forced into servitude in Siberia. His legs had been so badly frozen that they would not bend at the joints. This peglegged walk was to carry him through life and to deny him work because of his slowness. After Ron had finished, we invited him home to dinner. He walked naturally again. His realization of what had happened to him did not come until he walked to the door to leave. He suddenly stopped and began shouting, "I walk - I walk." " [we've had Scientology Day, now it's Scientology Year - any takers for Scientology Century?] "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Mayor President, Walter Comeaux , of the Lafayette Consolidated Government do hereby proclaim the month of September, 2001, as SCIENTOLOGY MONTH" [gee, this one's a tough decision - what would *you* choose?] "I hear many parents discussing the fact that their child is out-exchange. This begs the question, "What is exchange?" Ask yourself this, "Which would you rather have?" The lawn mowed OR ... A child who asks you to get their friends' parents to do the Parent Debug at Applied Scholastics so that their friends can have 'cool' parents like you?" [one should never trust the media, educators, medical professionals or one's peers - only Scientology has the answer] "If you work for Scientologists, live in a Scientology household and are involved with the Scientology community, you may not be as aware of the number of decent people in the world who want truth and help but don't know where to turn. Many have been reaching for answers from sources with perverted truths or who have false data themselves concerning right and wrong. They wind up "solving" problems by creating bigger ones by believing the media, educators, medical professionals or following peers." [wogs just don't know their rightful place in society] "I just read LD Sledge's observations about those Scientologists who consider themselves outside the loop of society, because of superior knowledge and rightness. It is true that we have superior knowledge and data, that we have moved a notch or two above the common run. But our superiority should be measured in how we use what we have and how effective we are." [is this related to the problem with clams?] "I had a little miracle with my husband. He had excruciating jaw pain and deathful feelings for weeks, being unable to eat or sleep normally. When we were both on course, he had an attack of the pain, and the supervisor gave us permission to do a touch assist. It did go about an hour and a half; he pulled up several lifetimes where he'd had jaw damage on that side, some in which he'd died from it." [where have I seen these "syndromes" before?] "As a lot of you probably already know, I am one of the most rabid anti-psych people on the planet. I have done a lot of research and work in this area, and I am always looking for a way to inform the public of the absurdity of psychiatry. we have actually launched a new project. It is a spoof on the good old DSM (Diagnostic & Statistical Manual) of psychiatry. Some sample disorders include: FOLD - Fear of Lawsuit Disorder EDD - Ethics Deficit Disorder MGS - Money-Grabbing Syndrome LID - Lacking Integrity Disorder NIWD (pronounced "nude') - No Integrity Whatsoever Disorder" [psychs are very good-looking these days, aren't they?] "When you hear some bimbo psych on the radio or read some entheta psych article it is really not ok that you don't respond." [LRH, his horse Roger and a pretty medieval maiden - recollections from the Chief Loony.] "This was a fitting occasion for an LRH story from the "horses mouth"! For about a half hour he told us about his days as a medieval knight, and about his horse, Roger. He started out by relating some battle tactics how he would taunt the enemy before the battle, for example. Before he rode up to their lines he would make sure he was wearing something like a bright red sash by which they would remember him. He would then ride over and fling every manner of insult to enrage them. During one such tournament, Roger trotted off to the grandstand and found the prettiest maiden there. He plucked the hat off her head and briskly delivered it to LRH. A little later as she was furiously berating LRH to his face over the outrageous antics of his steed, Roger came up behind and nuzzled her into LRH's arms!" | Chris Owen - ronthewarhero@OISPAMNOyahoo.co.uk | |---------------------------------------------------------------| | NARCONON EXPOSED: The full facts about the Narconon program | | http://www.narconon-exposed.org | ||||| From: Zorrosblade........Z Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Theta Talker FAQ Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:26:27 -0800 Organization: Miscreant League of Gentlemen Reply-To: zorrosblade@operamail.com Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.52.241.45 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.52.241.45 X-Trace: 4 Dec 2002 13:26:26 -0500, 24.52.241.45 X-Original-Trace: 4 Dec 2002 13:26:26 -0500, 24.52.241.45 Lines: 255 Path: news2.lightlink.com Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1575214 Wouldn't you know it; the FAQ at 'theta talker' http://home.earthlink.net/~itheta/faq.html not only has suggestions on how to 'theta talk' for an aspiring applicant, but stringent 'policy' requirements as to * what* can be talked about. Doth thou smell hypocrisy when scientology meeteth out GRADE 0 release, (communications release), purported to 'release' an individual from 'reactive' impulses not to communicate "on any subject", when hard line 'theta talker' OEC/MS3 'policy' conditions are slogged out as a condition to join the 'theta talker' list? snip> "Executive Director Ruth A. Littman director@itheta.org In charge of the whole organization and its smooth operation". Lets examine what that "smooth operation" consists of, shall we? snip reference for below> "MS3" refers to the third volume of the Management Series by L. Ron Hubbard, and is followed by the page number. Frequently Asked Questions **Questions about joining up Q." I'm not a fellow parishioner of your church but I want to be on the list. Can I do that?" A. "Sorry, but no. These lists are private email discussion lists and are limited to fellow parishioners." Oh I see---it's that big bad 'reactive mind' needing to be defended against which necessitates theta talker to shun non 'parishioners' because they haven't 'duplicated' TR's and induced ARC. I should have known better. Plus, fear of critics looking to mosey on over for a look at those lists wouldn't have anything to do with that answer, now would it? ARS is So damn frightening that the entheta is a killer, needing vast amounts of scientology policy to fend it off. [Z-blade grabbing his chest---Uh---Uh----Uhhh---can't breath---no pulse--- falling out of chair---expiring for good because of ARS entheta------Tigger cheers] Why wasn't the below questioner accepted? It seems being a scientologist in 'good standing' just ain't good enough to get onto the Theta talker e-mail list. Other "criteria" besides being an 'in ethics' scientologist are a necessity it seems: snip> Q. "I was invited to the list (or self-invited) but I was not accepted. What's up?" A." iTheta reserves the right to accept or not accept anyone who has been invited. Being a fellow parishioner in good standing with your church is not the only criteria we go by, that is just a prerequisite (by request of the membership). We also reserve the right to remove anyone from the lists. If you have any questions about this, email The Reports Officer." Wait a minute! Reports officer? What exactly do you mean by "Reports officer"? I checked the internet for wog clarification on "Reports officer" but found zilch. You don't mean an in-house 'ethics/reports' officer who might just have a contact with the orgs do you, that might just send reports to an org official who 'reviews' those reports for possible ethics actions against transgressors from theta talker??? That's 'theta talker' for you; just try posting a fully independent idea through their 'independent service' and get written up with a 'Reports officer' KR, sent to the orgs if a list message veers from LRH/DM standards-and-codes. MAN that sounds like theta-talking all right. What a list service! Snip> Q. "I sent an email to the list, but haven't received it back to me from the list? Where did it go?" (3) "Your message may not yet have been seen and approved by the Moderator. This should happen at least once per business day, but is not guaranteed." (4) "Your message may have been rejected by the Moderator." ALL BOW to the holiest of moderators who doth nix or bequeath the listing right of passage, with LRH policy as champion of the cause. Snip> Q. "It seems my message was probably rejected by the Moderator. How can I find out why?" A. "The Moderator is not obligated to inform you of a rejected posting, but often will. You are expected to be hatted as a member on what can and cannot be sent to the list. We have provided a list of reasons why an email may have been rejected." snip> "Reasons for Rejection of Submissions to Email Discussion Lists" "There are various reasons for rejection of an email to iTheta email discussion lists. Here is a brief list of reasons that the Moderator might have for rejecting a particular submission to the email discussion list." "The originator of a rejected communication should be able to read the appropriate references and handle their own confusion on the matter." In other words,,we control your ass or you don't get a right of 'list' passage mr. confused!! GOT IT?? snip cont from above> " No discussions about these reasons should be engaged in. If you sincerely cannot figure out why your message was rejected, you may query the iTheta Talk Moderator. The Moderator may tell you which category it falls under but has been instructed to not discuss the policy or the application of the policy." Interesting. The moderator "has been instructed" (by whom?) not to discuss policy matters as to why messages get rejected by the moderator and DEMANDS no discussions be had for his reasons why. I smell a subsidiary interest that's looking for 'backsliders' through the 'theta talker' medium. Promise people 'theta talk' to lure subscribers in, with KR's in the wings against the 'message guilty' who are clueless where reports will go (scn). Naw---thats just conspiracy rant. snip> "We don't use such terms in our communications. Reference: MS3:34 No entheta, HE&R (human emotion and reaction) or down-tone communications will be forwarded. Reference: OEC 1:360. Referring to "Entheta on line"." So anything considered entheta is non-compliant 'think' for buzzwords-come-nomenclature like HE&R. The inference being that LRH tech/policy *is* the deciding factor as to what's considered 'theta' vs. 'entheta' communication. Nothing like free and open communication by jimmany. I wonder if I could get on that list. I think Queso and I should drive over to their offices this week and ask. We'll walk in and I'll say; "Hi! That's El Queso over there and I'm Zorrosblade---nice to meet you---where do we sign up?" snip> "Wrong public. Reference: MS3:11 (PR Series 3) Out-PR public communication. Not appropriate for a communication traveling via a public network (the Internet). Reference: MS3:99" Hey! That's not nice. Take out the r with the n and you've got it: wog public. In this instance, "Wrong public" from the management series doesn't equate to "wrong thinking public" does it? Didn't think so. The big bad internet has apparently far too much entheta for 'theta talkers' interests, where it appears their afraid of getting heart attacks or exploding aneurysms if subjected to anything other than 'theta talk'. snip> "We don't pass on these communications. Reference: MS3:102 "The Enemy Line" The "enemy line"? What the hell is the "enemy line"? That wouldn't have anything to do with purveyors of speak-crimes in messages would it? Does that mean if I want to join I get sent to room 101 as a prerequisite to joining? Serves me right. I hope Richard Burton isn't there. He was scary holding up those fingers. snip> Q. "I want to forward a special iTheta message to a friend. May I do that?" A. "No and yes. In general, forwarding of iTheta messages is not okay" Not OK? Why not? Are you worried about non-screened readers receiving forwarded messages because they haven't been screened by the 'Reports officer'? That couldn't be the reason. snip> "Persons who originate comm on the iTheta email lists expect their messages to be received by members only who have gone through the approval process to join." Theres that "approval process" again with the "reports officer' in tow. Anything outside of the Reports officers clutches is NOT OK. I got it, I got it. My needles floating. snip> "It has been our experience that trouble has occurred when iTheta comms were broadcast to "other lists" without permission." TROUBLE! I knew it. And who were the ones that broadcasted to other lists "without permission" anyway? The Reports Officer better write some serious KR's regarding these heinous crimes and send them up lines so these criminals can get their ethics IN. Get those trouble makers before they hatch onto other list servers! Demand they go to Flag on their own expense and make them wash toilets for their own good! They're self esteem will improve because of it! snip> "This is also out-security." There's that big bad ARS/xenu.net reference again. Do ARS critics really know how much fear they strike into the hearts of in-ethics scientologists? I'm starting the ARS "Atilla the hun" awards because of it. El Queso will take the place of 'Bill Conte' as awards music director. Z-blade will be the evenings tuxedo host with Tigger as my side-kick because of our great working chemistry together, reminiscent of Abbot and Costello. For our first act Tigger and I will perform the famous "who's on first" skit. It'll be a hit at the awards. snip> " Anyone found passing on iTheta email traffic to their own lists or frequently and repeatedly not following this policy will risk losing their membership with no further questions asked." YES MAM!! (Salute) Z-blade