After listening to all 9 parts of the audio, I came away with 9 pages of notes.

I'll try to keep it brief!

One of the earliest quotes was in reference to CAN. Heber states "The moral image of this organization should be looked at." If Scientology is the most ethical group on the planet, why wouldn't this statement be true for them as well?

Heber also claims to have been cured of the effects of radiation sickness by the Purification Rundown. Yet, when he's challenged to produce documents that he ever suffered "fatigue" he changes the subject abruptly.

8 minutes and 20 some seconds into one portion of the interview, (and he was watching the clock, as was I) Heber claims it had been 13 minutes!

Heber openly admitted that Scientology is opposed to psychiatry. Yet, in the 1984 edition of Dianetics, there is a quote from a psychiatrist in the first few pages of the book!

Heber obfuscates the issue of exorcism by turning the discussion to personal issues about Dennis Ehrlich.

If Heber Jentzsch is so ethical, why is he hiding? What does he have to hide? If he doesn't have anything to hide, why would he ask another organization "The moral image of this organization should be looked at"?

Wouldn't that apply to him and The Church of Scientology as well?

I really appreciated Dennis Ehlich's statement, "You don't have to believe anything and yet you have to suspend your disbelief. Otherwise you're bgeing critical."

$17.50 a week pay to be in the Sea Org? Sorry. I can earn more turning in the pop cans my kids drank!

Dennis also claimed that Scientologists are "Segregated by the belief system itself."

Level 12 is Excorcism. Obviously, Heber went ballistic. The Church of Scientology doesn't want us to know that? (Gasp!) I got a kick out of the moderator at this point when she said in a questioning voice, "More stimulating talk radio?"

At this point Heber goes into a whole spiel about Nazi's, Facism, the PRF, Nazi's and drug running, Magaret Singer, The German Union of Child Psychiarty and Margaret Singer. (He's really starting to sound like Paloma, Chitester, Hartley and Nelson!) Heber claims to have handled Nazi's.

More on exposing psychiatry.

A caller says they paid for and never received services.

Here he asks Dennis if he's on drugs. The moderator states that Dennis looks and behaves perfecly lucid.

Heber calls criticism "Noise".

Heber claims Narconnon success stories by the miilions! This is back in 1991!

Heber claims to sympathize with Christians who have been burned at the stake and thrown to the lions after previously having maligned Catholics for their abuses.

Dennis asks, "Let me talk." Heber responds, "No."

Heber says to Priscilla, "You are for drugs!"

In part *, Heber rants about the invention of the wheel.

Now he claims Narconnon succes stories are around 100,000. Make up our minds Heber!

Heber claims, "Lawyers are effective."

Heber claims a Narconnon success rate of 72 - 78% Heber claims Prozac is a killer.

Heber admits to being arrested in Spain. Why? Falsification of records, Coercion, Capital Flight and Pure and Simple Charlitanism.

When Priscilla metions that Heber was allowed to leave Spain because of his Mother's medical condition, Heber goes nuts.

When Dennis asks for people's PC folders back, Heber says he doesn't know what Dennis is talking about. When pressed, Heber states that anyone who's PC folders are retuned or shredded are "Out for all time and eternity."

Heber belittles a caller's intelligence.

Heber rants some more about Prozac.

Heber metions National TV coverage of Prozac by Dan Rather, Phil Donahue and other places on National TV.

Heber states that Scientology will continue to go after Prozac and it's maker Eli Lilly. This is in 1991. Prozac is still on the market today. A lot of affect all of those OT VIII's have had, huh?

Heber harps on the drug issue agian.

A caller named John asks about the exorcism issue. Heber claims, "I'm not here to discuss the religion of Scientiology".

At the end of the last segment, Heber sounds like a handler at an anti-Scientology picket!

Curt West


"TobyOrNotToby" <tobytyler1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c0a3d177.0108291917.55444bd6@posting.google.com...

> Oh my God! I just listened to the May 5, 1991 program on KFI radio, at
> http://www.users.wineasy.se/noname/multimed/index.htm (near the bottom
> of the page). It was a radio call-in program with Heber, Priscilla
> Coates of the old CAN, and Dennis Erlich. It was hilarious! Whenever
> Erlich tried to bring up the subject of "Scientology exorcism" (which,
> of course, Heber knew would be a discussion of OT III/BT's, etc.),
> Heber turned into a total raving lunatic, shouting "You love drugs!
> You love drugs, don't you, Dennis! Are you on drugs right now...." My
> sides are aching...of course, I'm easily entertained....
>
> Peace,
> Toby

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