>Subject: Re: Ida Camburn - Call To Margaret Singer
>From: dilbertperkins@aol.com (DilbertPerkins)
>Date: 11/17/2003 11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20031118025914.19100.00000466@mb-m18.aol.com>
>
>Virginia, WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE? All you do here is ask critics for
>details
>of what they have already posted, and when they don't give you an answer you
>are happy with, you call them liars. I seriously doubt that Ida (or Tory, or
>any of the other critics you have targeted) will ever answer any of your
>posts.
>It's obvious what you are doing here.
>
>Hey Virginia, why don't YOU tell US what your assignment was with the Free
>Zone? We're all dying to know.
>
>Virginia, who is till a Scientologist by the way, wrote:
>
><< To Ida Camburn,
>
>I have a question I have wanted to ask.
>
>What is your version of why you called up Margaret Singer and told her you
>were dropping out of the anti-cult group (name??), after your husband's
>work was picketed?
>
>Virginia

>Dilbert PerkinsLos Angeles, CA

Thank you Dilbert and indeed "What the hell does she intend to do with info from me?" She will have to go elsewhere and it is pretty plain to see I haven't "dropped out" nor "caved in" or "given up" I intend to "keep on keepin on".

Her GO husband thought he had big OT powers when he picked one of the spies he put on me. What is so hilarious --she really fooled him in to thinking my husband was going to leave me if I didn't keep quiet. (George and I were married in l963 -He died in l990) Amy told him the lie to keep out of the RPF.. We also caught her telling us a lie that she came down on the train when my husband hung around after we dropped her off and we saw some one pick her up . She apparently convinced him I was calling Margaret Singer -another lie. The picketing also back-fired as instead of it upsetting the company he worked for -the boss called him and told him to take the day off "a couple of nuts are out here with signs saying stupid things about your wife". We went out to dinner. The boss then notified the head office in Annapolis where the word went out to 500 employees. There were two in Chicago office taking courses--both quit. Two in the office where my husband was--they quit. so I wouldn't call that a win for the guy that channels L Ron Hubbard. :) Maybe when he has him on the couch he can explain it to him once more. Have him explain it to the wife also. I have to admit the two guys that crashed into my husbands car while he was on the way to work did shake him up. Same Insurance company so it was a push -however it showed my husband early on "SCIENTOLOGY IS WORSE THAN YOU THINK". By the way, I had other spies assigned to me that were much better that Amy. Two of them left--decided I wasn't the bad guy after all. :)

I took time to read a couple of the things that this woman who wants to "sec" check me did to the freezoners. Didn't waste much time on it --I could tell by the mean and ugly way she treats Tory that I would not care to know her. Tory does great posts and has helped so many people. She is admired and well respected by so many people --she is a credit to society and I am proud to know her. However Tory found the door and is out of the cult and is free .

Looks as tho the McClaughry's decided to help OSA out .

Ida

Note: I clipped this article from the net.. This is the big GO guy telling about his little stint he thought he pulled on me. .It was bad enough to relate this unethical behavior however he laughed all through this testimony thinking he was such a smart ass.

RealMedia® Mike McClaughry interview, Transcribed by Xenubat (Sue M.) http://members.cox.net/batchild1/transcript/mike1.htm

THE PROTECT BUTTON MIKE McCLAUGHRY: The next button that is used is called the "Protect Button". And the way you design Black Operations off of the Protect Button is you find out what the enemy or critic is, um--what he's trying to protect, basically. So let's say he's, um, trying to protect his marriage. Um, you know, you would do, design a Black Operation to cost him his marriage. Let's say you would have a prostitute, uh, call up his wife and go, you know, and say that "I've slept with your husband". So the idea there would be that now that this marriage has been threatened, uh, he backs off and stops attacking Scientology in order to prevent his marriage from being destroyed. Um, I'll give you a real one that I did using the Protect Button. Um, Ida Camburn was one. I got a spy in on Ida Camburn and she had been living in the L.A. area. Her son was in Scientology. She didn't like it, she was part of the anti-cult movement. Um, she moved up into the Bay area, which was my area. Um, I got a message from USGO saying that she had done this and, you know, that she was an enemy. So I was supposed to handle her. So I got a spy in on her, Ida Camburn. Um, the girl found out--I mean, it took, you know, two to three months to find out what we wanted to know but we found out that Ida Camburn was trying to protect her marriage. She had no job, she had no career, she was totally dependent upon her husband for a living and, you know, if anything happened to that marriage, she was cooked; had no way to support herself. So that's what she was trying to protect. Uh, her husband's Protect Button was his job. He had told Ida that, "Um, I don't care if you're part of the anti-cult movement, but, uh, I never want to have anything happen to me at work because you're involved in this. If I ever get embarrassed at work, we are going to get a divorce." Right? "You either get out of that or we get a divorce." Now, knowing both of those things, I sent some picketers down to where, uh, her husband worked one day, and they made a big scene out in front of his work, you know, uh, "Religious discrimination" signs, that kind of thing, just protested, embarrassed him at work. He came home that night, said, "Ida, you either get out of this anti-cult thing or we get a divorce." Of course, Ida couldn't afford a divorce, so she quit the anti-cult movement that day. She was done.

www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/

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