It is very very apparent Mr. Ramsay has something else in mind as well.
Last night, I received this letter as well. I will xxx out anything that should remain private, like names.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:22:40 -0400
From: "P.R." <clamsay@home.com>
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To: AMPaquette@aol.com, kaeli@klis.com, kaeli@magma.ca,
lady.aiur@home.com
Subject: Re: XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX aka Kaeli@Klis.com
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Dear Ms. Paquette,
My name is Peter Ramsay. I have been a parishioner of the Toronto
Church of Scientology since 1972. I also am a Founding Member of the
International Association of Scientologists (12237-130-0002-0375).
It has come to my attention that you recently sent an email to an individual known as "Kaeli" in regards to possible violations of copyright law. The email address used by this individual is kaeli@klis.com.
I have some further information concerning this person and I pass it along to you to use as you see fit.
The real name of the individual who you know as "Kaeli" is XXXXX XXXXXXXX.. I have sometimes found her last name spelled as XXXXXXXX but the correct spelling appears to be XXXXXXXX .Her current registered address is:
(this is blanked out to protect my privacy, something Mr. Ramsay does not respect these days.)
This address is a registered address given by her. I have not as yet confirmed it by personal inspection but will do so in the near future.
The telephone number given for this address is xxx-xxx-xxxx This number does not appear in the current Toronto White Pages.
However, (Kaeli) has recently moved to Toronto from Ottawa and the number is perhaps a new listing.
(Kaeli) has lived in Ottawa, Ontario for the last twelve years.
Prior to moving to Toronto, (Kaeli) lived at:
(my old Ottawa address) This number does not appear in the current Toronto White Pages.
However, (Kaeli) has recently moved to Toronto from Ottawa and the number is perhaps a new listing.
(Kaeli has lived in Ottawa, Ontario for the last twelve years.
Prior to moving to Toronto, (Kaeli) lived at:
(my old Ottawa address) The telephone number for this address is (old Ottawa phone number).
(Kaeli) is married to (Zeratul^Cat). He is from the Ottawa area.
(Kaeli) is 31 years old. Zeratul^Cat is, I believe, 38 years old and had a birthday on March 29.
(Kaeli) has described herself as a student up to as recent- ly as a year ago. Both she and her husband have been involved in IRC (Internet Relay Chat) for about three years. (Kaeli) has been part of "Newnet", "Heavenly_Wavs_&_Popups", "Appleslice" and "Starfyre"
both as a participant and an operator. Her husband has been involved with the last three, again as a participant and operator.
(Kaeli), on IRC, has used the names "Jadzia" and "Kaeli".
Her husband, (Zeratul^Cat), has used the names "Tom^Cat", "Tanya^Cat"
and "Horny1".
Both (Kaeli) and (Zeratul^Cat) were on the 1998-1999 Board of Directors for the "Ottawa South Reform Association". (Kaeli) appears as the Secretary and (Zeratul^Cat) as the Database Manager.
Reform is the name of a Federal political party in Canada.
Zeratu^Cat, it appears, worked at Intranet Technologies Ltd.
in Ottawa. His email address used to be (deleted, email address). He seems to have trained in the operation of Unix systems and I believe that his forte is IVR (Interactive Voice Response) systems.
(Kaeli) seems to have briefly worked at Magma Communi- cations Ltd. in Ottawa beginning in July of 1999. I suspect that her stay there was short-lived. She had an IRC friend named (deleted to protect her privacy) who, at the time, was a Supervisor in the Residential Tech-nical Support Department.
Part of Intranet Technologies was purchased by Magma Communica- tions Ltd. in August of 1998 so Zeratu^Cat may have worked there (Magma) as well. (incorrect. Zeratul has never worked at Magma. I did, but before school started. That is known as a summer job, something most students do. Magma Communications and I have good relations with each other as I still do business with them. I've mentioned on this group I had trained for another career, but decided to switch to computers. This would required a full time stint at a technical school) I have not, as yet, determined the current places of business of either (Kaeli) or (Zeratul^Cat) but will forward you the data just as soon as I obtain such. Additionally, there are other areas of research that I will be pursuing in regards to the (deleted) and I will also forward these findings to you.
..... I will leave the rest of these out due to the fact it would be an invasion of their privacy and from what the Toronto Police told me, illegal.
If you require documentation of the information given above then please feel free to contact me at:
Address:
Peter Ramsay (deleting his address and phone number as well, although I believe I'm being too charitable by doing so; however I will not stoop to his level) Email:
clamsay@home.com I wish you every success.
Sincerely, Peter Ramsay I have informed Magma Communications, speaking to a former co-worker of mine. We were discussing the breach of information on both me and the other person, who has since moved to the other side of the country. They are very understandably concerned. I am still doing business with Magma, and we have good relations with each other.
I have emailed the abuse department at the @home network. I am also a customer with the @home network. I've included Velcro Kitty's post as well.
In speaking with the Toronto Police, breach of privacy over the Internet is highly illegal. Using it to libel others is a criminal violation. It is suggested that both Peter Ramsay and Velcro Kitty cease and desist immediately.
The police officer did not seem surprised by the actions of the CoS members. His words were "they do anything legal or illegal."
Kaeli@klis.com Gregg wrote:
> April was an emotionally stressful month for my wife, my
> children and me. My father passed away early in the first week and his
> funeral was in the second week. Also at the end of the second week the
> OSA orchestrated CoS Squad of Picket Muggers really went overboard and
> sank themselves and the Co$ by falsely and repeatedly calling me a
> "child abuser". It was publicly and falsely implied I molested
> children from babies to young adults. It was also falsely stated to
> the general public that I am a Rapist and I have convictions for child
> abuse. This was caught on audio tape. The end of the fourth week was
> equally bad as Ramsay stalked and assaulted me. And then the OSA
> orchestrated Fair Game Squad began one of their stupidest and most
> reckless actions: they attacked the professional teaching reputation
> of my wife Jennifer. And they openly libeled me.
>
> First came the intensely harassing phone call to Jennifer at
> school. This was allegedly from another teacher. Then the school
> received other calls concerning Jennifer. Next came a series of
> letters defaming Jennifer, her professional reputation and also
> defaming me.
>
> Serious allegations were made and threats to disrupt the
> school with "investigations" by "solicitors".
>
> These letters, about half a dozen or so, were sent to the
> Parent Co -Chairs, the Principal, the Vice Principal, the
> Superintendent of Schools and the Ontario College of Teachers.
>
> Some of these scurrilous and defaming letters were authored by:
>
> Liz Kristiansen
> 12 Hiawatha Rd.,
> Toronto, Ontario
> M4L 2X8
>
> J.G. Layton
> Layton Creations
> 128 Manville Rd. Unit 28
> Scarborough, Ontario
> M1L 4J5
>
> Betty Misener
> Reliable Promotions
> 725 Browns Line
> Suite 201
> Toronto, Ontario
> M8W 3V7
>
> Grahame F. Potter
> Grahame Potter Marketing Inc.
> 385 Vaughan Road
> Toronto, Ontario
> M6C 2N8
>
> A. Renault
> XL Transcribing & Document Processing Services
> 1405 Lewisham Drive
> Mississauga, Ontario
> L5J 3R2
>
> David Stokes
> 168 Lake Promenade
> Etobicoke, Ontario
> M8W 1A7
>
> [The contents of these letters must remain undisclosed for the
> moment, pending contemplation of legal action. I will however
> seperately post my response to these attacks.]
>
> The Toronto School Board swiftly launched an internal
> investigation to immediately address the allegations made and to
> terminate the threat,made by the Scientology, of disrupting the
> school. .
>
> Jennifer and I both participated in this investigation. I
> explained my activities and educated Board Legal Advisors as to the
> nature and operation of the Criminally Convicted Cult. The Board while
> not responsible for my actions, quickly ascertained through their
> lawyers, neither Jennifer or I were involved in any activity even
> remotely illegal. The Board Lawyers easily established Jennifer has an
> impeccable history and reputation as a professional teacher. Jennifers
> immediate superiors completely backed her up and supported her.
>
> The Board Lawyers then sent letters of reply to the
> Scientologists who had been organized by the Co$ to write making these
> 'cookie cutter' allegations, accusations and defamations.
>
> The Board Lawyer Letters of reply were generally the same
> with some specifics addressed for each Scientology author.
>
> I well post these separately.
>
>
> The Board lawyers response to Scientology threats was swift and harsh
> and said in part:
>
> "In summary, our investigation does not support the serious
> allegations made by you. There is absolutely no evidence of
> professional misconduct, incapacity or incompetence on the part of Ms.
> Hagglund."
>
> "You are hereby formally put on notice to cease and desist immediately
> from making or circulating, in any manner whatsoever, any comments,
> commentary or other information with respect to Board personnel,
> including Ms. Hagglund. In addition, you are put on notice that you
> are not to have any direct contact with any staff member at the
> School. "
>
> Shaken Scientologist flunkies apparently contacted their OSA
> Terrorist Tactical Officer Peter "attack dog" Ramsay and gave him the
> bad news.
> Rambo Ramsay of course began frothing at the mouth and called
> Jennifer's school to complain about the Board Lawyer Letters. He made
> grandiose statements about his planned response to the Boards
> Response.
>
> Of course 'old Ranting Rambo Ramsay has made other
> 'terrifying' promises.
>
> "Hot air", I assured Jennifer's Principal.
>
> Empty threats are Ramsay's specialty: his 'color brochures'
> and his 'lawn signs' and his 'filing of a trademark'. Ramsay was just
> blowing smoke. Pretty scary if you don't know how stupid this guy is.
> (He certainly scared my brother and sister.) Petey does better with
> shooting off his mouth or punching and pushing than he does in
> effecting his *plans*.
>
> However the Board Lawyers decided to deal with Mr. Ramsay's
> 'hadn flapping'. They clearly understood OSA attack dog "clamsay" is
> on a leash and the Co$ have to occasionally scoop up his poop. So the
> Board Lawyers determined to inform Janet Leveau, figurehead Co$
> Toronto President, exactly what kind of a legal bind the errant Ramsay
> might get them into.
>
> The net result:
>
> Jennifer's job is not in any jeopardy, although the extra
> stress was not welcome.
> Co$ has had its wrist slapped by one of the best legal firms
> in the country
> And OSA attack dog Peter Ramsay had a muzzle strapped on his
> in his face.
>
> I and the lawyers are waiting for Ramsay's next *big plan* to
> stop my Charter protected Freedom of Expression.
>
> The question my wife and children ask is:
> How low will this thug and his cult go?
>
>
> Gregg Hagglund SP7
>
> Toronto and Canadian National Picket Reports now at:
> <http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/8412/toronto/index.html>
>
> "It's interesting that Scientologists cannot seem to differentiate
> between:
> ----individuals:
> picketing an organization to voice their opinion on its behavior,
> and
> -----an organization:
> picketing individuals for voicing their opinion."
> -M.C.DiPietra
>
> "Give'em hell son." the late M.G.Hagglund
From: psychguy@my-deja.com
Subject: Talk with a lawyer
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:22:36 GMT
Message-ID: <8jis16$njs$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Kaeli, I suggest you consult with a lawyer. Under new anti-stalking
laws, the posting of personal information on the Internet is a crime.
The clear intent of such messages is to provoke action against the person. The law came about because prior incidents have resulted in violence.
Sinister intent can be assumed because the message contains a promise of further action (locating your places of work). The claim that his investigation is warranted by your supposed trademark violation will not protect him. The crime is making your information public. You had a reasonable expectation of privacy which he violated.
Since this fool wasn't smart enough to conceal his identity, you should be able to smack him good. It was also kind of him to implicate scientology, destroying their "deniability."
At the very least, please save all of the letters, phone messages and e- mail you receive as a result of being targeted. They just rose in stature from annoyance to evidence.
Good luck, and stay safe.