I'm posting this old IRC (Internet Chat Relay) log of the raid by the cult on Arnie in 1995 to remind many of us why we're fighting this battle with scientology. Sometimes I think some people on IRC have forgotten what Arnie Lerma has gone through over the years and now they are attacking him. I'm proud to be a friend of Arnie and support his fight the best I can.
IRC is an excellent tool for communications of urgent/timely news and provides a degree of privacy.
I would suggest that any critics, newbies or even scientologists wishing to reach out for help, visit our channels on UnderNet's IRC server called #scientology (an open channel with few rules).
There is another channel called #scientologyLIES which is run by Arnie Lerma himself. #scientologyLIES does have many restrictions on access as it has sensitive discussions about the cult. If you are an unknown, you will probably be asked to leave and move to #scientology.
I recommend mIRC as your chat program. If you have a question on how to get on... email me at wog_world#yahoo.com Note, this email will be inactive shortly, but should be back up and running in the fall.
Regards, justWog --------------------------------- http://www.amazing.com/scientology/alerma-transcript.html Arnie Lerma is raided by the cult.
[This is the Internet Relay Chat log converted into HTML of the announcement that Andy Lerma was raided by the Church of Scientology on the morning of Saturday, 12 August 1995, a day that will life in infamy] This version was edited somewhat for clarity; for a 100% verbatim copy, see the more cluttered text version (I deleted no text; what I did remove was the various entry, exit and channel mode change announcements).
[Channel: #clambake]
IRC log started Sat Aug 12, 1995 19:47
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> Let's see if that works.
<alerma> ok mi dont have much time, ok there is too much to do
<Mindjam> logging here too.
<cultxpt> shhh. let's listen <rkeller> All: Arnie doesn't type fast. Let's give him all the time he needs * Xaemyl listens like a child listening to a story in class :) <alerma> I need to have whomever has a copy of the faq that lists scientology celebs in and out of cof$, sent to my fax machine.
<kweide> Arnie, a lot of people have been waiting for you. thanks for coming!
<lrkrchyk> alerma: that is tilman hausser.
<alerma> this isnt for me this is for another fracas..
<alerma> OK, this is my statement, on the fly, it is my opinion that the <skaplin> Hi Arnie!
<alerma> Cult of $cientology lied to a federal judge to gain the write of sezure used to take <alerma> 500 diskketts, 4 hard drives total 3.9 gig, my computerm my scanner <alerma> my kb and my MOUSE!
<alerma> and 20" monitor <alerma> it is my opinion that they know they are in deep doo doo.
<JessieB> re <alerma> I am typing this at a members of EFFS staff while thecourt documentsare being copyed.
<alerma> This court case is under seal. !
<alerma> Not fishman, this court case,!
<alerma> So I cant just , even if I had a scanner,
> They got a compliant judge; this doesn't look good.
<alerma> scan it in for all to see,
<alerma> I shall not be silence.
<alerma> I shall not sell out, <alerma> I am not a particularly brave man, I <alerma> I want all of you to know that it is you who are the insipiration <alerma> It is you guys who have given me the strength to go through this.
<rkeller> Arnie, I have a question: who did you sent that plea to the judge to?
<alerma> Any questions?
<lrkrchyk> alerma: i think it's a two-way street. your actions have brought out the best in a lot of people.
> Alerma: I want to offer you my best wishes. My 21" monitor trembles. :-(
<alerma> I got 25 phone scalles in a row from all over the country...
thanks * marina hugs alerma <skaplin> Arnie: Please tell more about how they lied to the judgr.
<cultxpt> Are you going to set up a legal defens fund?
* Mykl spills his beer.... "Shit" , "not again." "anyone have a towel".
<Brent> alerma: Wanna build a "MAKE MONEY FAST" option here -- take donations to a "sue the clams" fund and split the proceeds with the contributers? Sounds like sure money to me if you have enough to fight them.
<alerma> skaplin - well, they didnt tell the judge it was AN UNSEALED COURT AFFIDAVIT <Xaemyl> I wanna see the Church of Shitology go down hard!
<ClamWatch> Mr. Lerma: sir, you are a hero <alerma> thats all i canb say right now <tommyc> <tommyc> WATCHIT! This is being recorded by clams and may be used in court! Truth!
<lrkrchyk> alerma: you have friends all over, and they'll do what they can to suport you.
> Yes, we all will. This goes right on my web page once you're
> done answering questions.
<JessieB> arnie - i offer all my limited resources for your use.
<dcs> thanks for stopping in alerma, you are an instpiration to all of us!
<alerma> thanks guys, <lrkrchyk> alerma: thanks to you.
<marina> arnie, i *will* support your defense fund as well as dennis
erlich's
> This happened today?
<alerma> i have mail to handle and ars to cehcek out.
<skaplin> Arnie: Perhaps we should All fax him a copy of the papers <marina> dd: saturday morning, yes <Morden> Kick butt, Alerma!!!
<JessieB> thanks very, very much for coming by here.
<cultxpt> Thanks Arnie. Andre says he's there for you too.
<alerma> Details concerning a defense fund will be announced after cerain arrangements are made.
> Take care, Arnie. Good luck.
<marina> please let's choose ONE person to send fax, or we'll flood
his machine!
<skaplin> Good luck Arnie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 <alerma> you tell andre, i'm here for him too <cultxpt> will do <marina> take care arnie. good luck!
<lrkrchyk> alerma: you holding up alright?
<alerma> thanks all, thanks fr the calls, <alerma> you may post anything i type <marina> ok, noted <Bayl> okay I'll post <Jdiver> Is it really him??? =) <cultxpt> bayl good <alerma> leaving irc <marina> yes jim, you missed something interesting <alerma> yes it ws me <alerma> Im still alive an kicking and mad as a hornet <Jdiver> Please fill me in in spare time =) <dcs> later, alerma! hang in there!!
-> *marina* Wow.
<Jdiver> Excelent!
<cultxpt> wow * lrkrchyk thinks that's one hell of a man.
<dcs> Wow!
*marina* likewise.
<Xaemyl> eheh * Souichiro whistles..
<JessieB> my eyes are filling with tears <gugmum> what kind of BS is this sealed case stuff?
> I think they got the court convinced that the OT stuff is really secret,
> so an obliging judge sealed the case.
<Jdiver> If no has asked, what was thier grounds??
> That's been pretty unusual in these cases.
<rkeller> If you never talked to Arnie, imagine a voice like James
Earl Jones
> The usual copyright + trade secret infringement.
<Rover_> <Wag>
<lrkrchyk> jess: same ere.
> I guess he allegedly posted the OT materials.
<Morden> That will last until someone does a Lexis search.
> Hopefully this will just be a temporary victory for the clams.
<Jdiver> and they claim that it's sealed or what?
>`/
Probably going in the east coast courts helped them.
IRC Log ended *** Sat Aug 12 20:00