[PAGE 1] Disclaimer Clearwater Police Report number 95-29158 is a criminal investigative record subject to the records retention standards established in the State of Florida, Division of Library and Information Services, Bureau of Archives and Records Management, General Records Schedule GS-2 for Law Enforcement, Correctional Facilities, & District Medical Examiners.

On February 18, 2000, this record was created as an electronic record and imaged in accordance with established standards for storage of electronic records as published in Chapter IB-26, Florida Administrative Code and Bureau policy. In accordance with Clearwater Police Department policy and procedure, this record is arranged in chronological order by date of event.

Clearwater Police Department is not responsible for records supplied by other agencies, the Office of the States Attorney, or the Church of Scientology, which may appear illegible or incomplete within the record.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 2] [DID NOT OCR WELL] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 3] [DID NOT OCR WELL] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 4] FLORIDA,OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPORT-SUPPLEMENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. SUPP. X FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. U~;Fi AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 NAME(S): LISA McPHERSON DEC 13 1995 ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12- 06-95 IDENT: AOA/DEATH INVESTIGATION' VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 PIERCE STREET PAGE 1 OF 3 INVESTIGATOR: DET CAROLYN CARRASQUILLO ARRESTS: NONE IMPOUND INVENTORY: NONE PROPERTY CONTROL NO. NONE PREV CASE STATUS: ACTIVE NARRATIVE:

Det Sgt Teunis asked Det Howard and me to assist New Port Richey PD in finding background and next-of-kin on victim Lisa McPherson as she had died in a Hospital in New Port Richey but reportedly lived in Clearwater. A possible address of 901 No Osceola #205 was given. We checked that location but found that it is a bad address --- would fall approximately where the back of North Ward Elementary School sits.

We were advised also that one of the persons who transported her to the pital may be a Janis Johnson who gave a phone number of 461-4975. (This r-one number is listed to a Kevin L Wiley at 551 No Saturn Ave, Clearwater) I telephoned Ms Johnson to make sure she was home.

Arrangements were made to meet with her by the complex pool. We met her at approx 1235 hours. She said she is an M.D. from another state but does not practice medicine here in Florida. She is called on when someone in the Church (of Scientology) gets sick to give her opinion as to whether or not the person should go to a Doctor or a Hospital. On this occasion she was called by Alain Kartuzinski who is a Supervisor at 210 So Ft Harrison, "The Ft Harrison". When she arrived, McPherson was in a room and was awake. She said "Hill to Johnson then indicated that her throat was hurting. Johnson said right away she could see that McPherson was very sick, saying she looked SEPTIC. She called Dr Minkoff as he is the Doctor used by the Church and decided she should take McPherson to him. She asked Laura Arrunada to go with her as Laura has a Medical degree from Mexico. She then asked if anyone else around had medical training to help her transport and Paul Greenwood said he had Chiropractic training, so Johnson asked him to help lifting McPherson in and out of her They took McPherson to HCA Hospital in New Port Richey as that is where Minkoff works. Det Howard asked why'they didn't go to Morton Plant Hospital as it was much closer if she was so sick. Johnson's reply was "I didn't think she was that sick".

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 5] CASE #95-29158 AOA/DEATH INVESTIGATION PAGE 2 OF 3 Johnson said she did not know McPherson very well, but had seen her around for a couple of weeks. She has heard that McPherson is divorced and that her Mother lives in or near Dallas. However she was able to furnish no further personal information on her.

Det Howard and I next went to AMC Publishing at 620 Lakeview Road, Clearwater, where McPherson had reportedly been working. We were told that Bennetta Slaughter, the supervisor, was out of the office, but we were able to speak with her husband David Slaughter. He said Bennetta is the one we would need to talk with as she has the personnel files but he would attempt to give us some background information. He said McPherson's Mother does in fact live in Dallas and that her first name is Fannie but said he doesn't know her last name and thinks it is different from McPherson's. He said McPherson has worked for this Company for several years and is a personal friend of his and his wife's but said he didn't know much about her. He did she was in sales in this off ice and had been out sick that past couple of ks with unknown ailment. He took my business card and agreed to call or have his wife call.

When I arrived for work on Thursday morning, 7 December, there was a message on my recorder from David Slaughter. He said he had found out that McPherson's home address was 240 Windward Passage #302. He said he still hadn't found out how to reach her Mother but said he had other information on her if I would call him. He left a home number of 581-9444 and said his office number is 446-1100 --- works 9AM - 6PM. I attempted to call him at work but was told he was in a meeting. The receptionist said she would ask him to call me back.

This concluded my involvement to date.

CASE STATUS: -ACTIVE EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE 1. Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. Offense, Secondary Offense. w/o Pros Adult Juv 3. Death of Offender 5.

Prosecution Decl o-%,.Exceptional V/W Refused to Cooperate 6.

Juv./No Custody 'Jnfounded OFC. REVIEWING: DATE: SA INFO:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 6] Florida Department of Law Enforcement Clearwater Police Department Prosecutive Summary FDLE# CLO10002 December 5, 1997 CPD# 95-29158 CASE AGENTS: Sgt. Wayne Andrews CPD Detective Jorge Carrasquillo CPD S/A Allan L. Strope F.D.L.E.

OFFENSE: 3 cts. Aggravated Manslaughter FSS 182.07(2) 2 cts. Practice of Medicine without License FSS 458.327(a) Dates Covered: From: December 6,1995 To: December 5, 1997 Copies to:

1.) Sixth Judicial Circuit State Attorney's Office ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 7] PROSECUTIVE SUMMARY INDEX RIMTM0572 Greenwood, Paul Cos Staff Carried victim to van 4, 33- Yes and then rode with 34 victim to HCA - I Grubb,John Pinellas County Sheriff Forensic Specialist Took Photographs of 86 No Autopsy Hawk, Carol Friend Unknown Childhood friend of 47 Yes victim Hemphill, Cathleen AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 56 No Hemphill, Terry AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 56 No Herring, Janet Cos Chief Officer Flag Arranged room #174 90 Yes for Lisa Houghton, David Cos Dentist Treated Lisa 66 Yes Hubert, Brenda AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 38, Yes 84 Incerto, Robert Landlord Belleair Greens Manager of victim's 50 No complex Johnson, Janis Cos Medical Liaison Supervised victim's 4,5, Yes care 31 Kartuzinski, Alain Cos Sr. Case Supervisor Supervised victim's 30 Yes care Kellerhals, Paul Cos Director of Security Directed Security 64 Yes Kern, Margaret J. AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 83 lNo Klimaszewski, Theresa Anne Columbia HCA Hospital Registered Nurse Emergency room 23 Yes nurse Koelpin, Roxanne Jeanne Columbia HCA Hospital Registered Nurse Emergency Room 24 Yes Nurse Krenek, Kimberly Cousin Unknown Cousin, attended 46 Yes Liebreich, Dell Aunt N/A Natural aunt of victim 43 Yes Lovett,-Flynn Morton Plant Hospital Physician Conducted medical 13 No examination Marafino, Tana Cos Director of Services Supervised 96 Yes housekeeping McDonald, Joseph Bob Lee's Garage Mechanic Rear-ended by 11 No McPherson McPherson, Fannie Deceased N/A Mother of victim 25 Ves Minkoff, David Columbia HCA Hospital Physician Attending Physician 19-20 Yes at death Mora, Annie Cos Prediction officer Conducted 98 Yes investigation of death Niles, David John Columbia HCA Hospital Physician Intubated 22 No McPherson Paine, Kurt Self-em loyed Salesman X-boyfriend of victim 27 Yes Pasco, Gurney Mallory AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 60 Yes Pemberton, Rick Columbia HCA Hospital Registered Nurse Removed victim from 21 Yes van Pendizini, Anna Cos Staff Caretaker 79 Yes Petzold, Heather Cos Staff Caretaker 72-73 Yes Podgomy, George Expert Witness Medical Doctor Expert testimony on 101- Yes Lisa's condition 1103 Page 2 of 3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 8] PROSECUTIVE SUMMARY INDEX M44 Portolano, Bonnie Sunstar Ambulance Co. Paramedic Treated victim at 10 Yes scene Price. Cynthia Lynelle Morton Plant Hospital Clerical Worker Admitting Personnel 14 No Price, Joseph Earl Morton Plant Hospital Psychiatric Nurse Conducted 15 Yes Psychiatric eval Quirino, Marcus Cos Deputy Chief FSO Quarantined 74 Yes caretakers Rakestraw, Brian AMC Publishing Sales Conducted victim 42 Yes identification Reich, Susanne Cos Staff Caretakers 92 Yes Reiter, Franz AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 61 No Sanchez, Gabriella Cos Staff Made watch 99 Yes schedule Schaffner, Jeffrey AMC Publishing CEO Conducted victim 41 No identification Schamerhom, Emma Cos Deputy MLO Caretaker 65 Yes Schmid, Barbara Columbia HCA Hospital Registered Nurse Emergency Room 18 Yes Nurse Skelton, Cathy Little Cousin Unknown Attended funeral 49 No Skelton, Lee Aunt Unknown Attended funeral 48 No Slaughter. David AMC Publishing Director Victim's employer 39 No Slaughter, Bennetta AMC Publishing Director Victim's friend and 40 Yes employer South, Carol AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 59 Yes South, Steven AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 59 IYes Spencer, Lacey Cos Comm. Runner Took reports to 76 IYes Kartuzinski Spencer, Solomon AMC Publishing Sales Co-worker 52 No Sprecher, Andrea J. Cos Staff Ordered Greenwood 69 Yes to assist Stevens, Joan Cos Staff Caretaker 67 Yes Stilo, Glen Cos Custodian of Searched for missing 89 Yes Records documents Stonelake, Michael Clearwater Police Police Officer Present at accident 8 No Stracener. Patricia Cos staff Caretaker 62 Yes Torrillo, Carolyn Neighbor Doctor Saw victim naked on 51 No balcony Toth, Attila Cos Security Security of the watch 88 Yes VanGrondelle, Alice Cos Staff Caretaker 77 IYes Werinberg, Barbro Cos Staff Caretaker 68 Yes Wood, Joan Medical Examiners Chief Medical Chief Medical' 81 No 0 ce Examiner Examiner ,Woodcraft, Leslie Cos Staff Caretaker 78 ~Yes . Page 3 of 3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 9] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE: December 5, 1997 CPD#: 95-29158 OFFENSE: MANSLAUGHTER DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 INVESTIGATING AGENCIES: Clearwater Police Department .645 Pierce Street Clearwater, Florida 33756 (813) 562-4200 Florida Department of Law Enforcement Clearwater Field Office 28870 U.S. Highway 19 Clearwater, Florida 34621 (813) 725-7901 LEAD INVESTIGATORS: Det. Sgt. Wayne Andrews, C. P.D SIA Allan L. Strope, F.D.L.E.

VICTIM: Lisa McPherson. (Deceased) W/F DOB 02/10/59 HGT/5'9 WGT/1 08 (time of death) HAIR/Brown EYES/Brown LKA/ Belleair Green Apartments 901 Osceol a Road Apt# 205 Belleair, Florida SS/ 461-94-2009 RELATIVES: Mother: Fannie McPherson (Deceased) Father: James McPherson (Deceased) Next of Kin: Dell Liebreich (Aunt) MARITAL STATUS: Divorced Two previous marriages LOCATION OF OFFENSE: Church of Scientology Fort Harrison Hotel 210 S. Fort Harrison Clearwater, Florida CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 1 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 10] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY VICTIM PROFILE:

Victim Lisa McPherson was a 36 year old white female born on February 10, 1959, in Dallas, Texas. At the time of her death, Lisa was survived by her mother, Fannie McPherson. Lisa's brother committed suicide when Lisa was approximately 16 years of age. Lisa's father also committed suicide some years after her brothers death. At the age of 18, and while residing in Dallas, Texas, Lisa McPherson was introduced into the Church of Scientology by a co-worker while she was employed at the local phone company. At the time of her death, Lisa was employed at AMC Publishing Company as a sales representative selling insurance advertising packages. Lisa had been employed at AMC Publishing since the late 1980's and relocated to Clearwater, Florida in 1993 with other AMC employees.

AMC Publishing Company is owned and operated by fellow Scientologists.

During her last 18 years Lisa was a dedicated member of the Church of Scientology and had acted in both "staff" and "public" positions within the Church of Scientology. It has been reported that Lisa's social, professional and personal life was solely dedicated.to the Church of Scientology.

Friends described Lisa McPherson as a likable, extroverted individual who had the gift for gab and thus, was the highest producing sales representative at AMC Publishing.

SUSPECTS DEVELOPED: Janis Johnson Alain Kartuzinski Laura Arrunada RELATIONSHIP TO VICTIM: Scientology Associate(s) WEAPON/TOOL USED: N/A INVESTIGATOR(S): Detective Sgt. Wayne Andrews, C.P.D Detective Ron Sudler, C.P.D Detective Jorge Carrasquillo, C.P.D Detective James Little, C.P.D Special Agent A.L. Strope, F.D.L.E Special Agent S. L. Feola, F.D.L.E Special Agent Ellen VVilcox, F.D.L.E CASE STATUS: Pending State Attorney Disposition (07 CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 2 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 011-020
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.188.24.175 X-Trace: news02 961743121 24.188.24.175 (Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:52:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:52:01 EDT Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!news01!news02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1132164 [PAGE 11] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFOR CEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY DETAILS:

On Saturday, November 18, 1995, Victim Lisa McPherson was involved in a minor automobile accident near the intersection of South Fort Harrison and Belleview Boulevard in Clearwater, Florida. McPherson rear-ended a vehicle towing a boat which had stopped in the curb lane. Several other individuals were at the crash scene as another accident had previously occurred. While at the accident scene, several witnesses testified that McPherson displayed unusual and biiarre behavior in her words and actions, and at some point removed all her clothing and began' walking naked along Belleview Blvd. Because of McPherson's unusual behavior she was placed in a Sungtar ambulance and treated by paramedics. Paramedic Bonnie Portolano testified McPherson told her she disrobed for attention so that someone would "help her". Portolano stated McPherson indicated she was having problems and wanted to talk to someone. Paramedics Bonnie Portolano and Mark Fabyanic transported McPherson to Morton Plant Hospital. McPherson was medically cleared by the attending physician at Morton Plant Emergency, Dr. Lovett and was to be evaluated by psychiatric nurse practitioner, RN Joseph Price prior to her release.

While McPherson was waiting to be evaluated several members of the Church of Scientology arrived at Morton Plant Hospital. Psychiatric RN Price believes McPherson's responses to questions were influenced by the presence of other Scientologists in the room who were within "ear shot"

of McPherson during her psychological evaluation.'Approximately ten members of the Ch.urch'of Scientology showed up at the hospital,* members of that group who hav6 been: identified are:

Humberto Fontana Office of Special Affairs Alain Kartuzinski Senior Case Supervisor Judy Goldsberry Weber Medical Liasion Officer Dr. Jeannie DeCuypere Scientologist Chiropractor Mr. David Slaughter Owner AMC Publishing Annie Mora Office of Special Affairs Lisa McPherson was released into the custody of the Church of Scientology personnel who assured Dr. Lovett she would receive rest and relaxation. Dr. Lovett released McPherson against his medical advice, after Lisa signed the release form. Alain Kartuzinski indicated he drove McPherson to the Fort Harrison Hotel from Morton Plant Hospital to receive rest and relaxation and had no further contact with her until the day of her death.

On December 5, 1995, McPherson was transported by Scientologists Janis Johnson, Laura Arrunada and Paul Greenwood to Columbia HCA Hospital in New Port Richey where she was pronounced dead on arrival.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 12] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY WOUNDS/MEDICAL EXAMINER'S STATEMENT A post-mortem examination was performed by Dr. Robert Davis. The Medical Examiner Joan Wood, MD indicates that'McPherson's immediate cause of death was a thrombo-embolism of the left pulmonary artery due to thrombosis of left popliteal vein due to bed rest and severe dehydration. It was also noted by Wood that McPherson suffered from severe dehydration, multiple old and recent hematomas and an abrasion to the nose.

INITIAL INTERVIEWS * Initial interviews by Clearwater Police Detectives on December 6, 1995, with individuals involved in the care of Lisa McPherson revealed the following:

Laura Arrunada: Arrunada was an assistant to Janis Johnson in the Medical Liaison Office of the Church of Scientology. Arrunada stated during previous contact with McPherson she (McPherson),was suffering from throat pain and had lost a considerable amount of weight. On the evening of 12/5/95 at approximately 1800 hours Arrunada entered McPherson's hotel room (reported to have been room 174) and McPherson was not talking but motioned to Arrunada she was still suffering from a sore throat. McPherson's skin was pale, and she had defecated in her undergarments and it appeared as if her condition had worsened. Arrunada contacted Medial Liaison Officer Janis Johnson. Arrunada stated the victim's pulse began to slow on the trip to Columbia Hospital and was fionresponsive upon arrival, at approximately 2130 hours, at New Port Richey Hospital. Subject Arrunada was deposed by the Pinellas County State Attorney's Office as a result of this investigation. For details of that later interview see page 32 of the witness statements in this document.

Alain Kartuzinski: Kartuzinski stated he is the supervisor of Lisa's counselor. Kartuzinski denies being Lisa's case supervisor. According to Kartuzinski Lisa was an acquaintance for about two years, but he didn't know her very well. Kartuzinski stated as far as he knew Lisa was a resident of 210 S. Ft. Harrison Ave. He further stated, at Morton Plant Hospital Lisa asked him for a ride back to the Ft. Harrison Hotel so she could rest. The last time he saw Lisa was on November 18, 1995, ' when he dropped her off at the Cabanas. Kartuzinski could not remember who Lisa's spiritual counselor was. He saw no injuries on her body at Morton Plant Hospital.

Janis J116hrisom. Johnson's initial statement indicated she received a call from Supervisor Alain Kartuzinski. Upon arrival at McPherson's room, McPherson was awake saying 'Hello" to Johnson and indicated her (McPherson's) throat was hurting. Johnson stated it appeared as if McPherson was septic. Johnson is a non-practicing Medical Doctor from the State of Arizona. Johnson called Dr. Minkoff who advised Johnson to bring the patient to New Port Richey. Owing to CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 4 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 13] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY the fact Arrunada and Gre' enwood have prior medical background Johnson summoned them to assist with transportation. Johnson stated she did not know McPherson but had "seen her around for a couple of weeks".

* It is important to note that the investigation has revealed that certain statements in the initial interviews were not truthful.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 5.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 14] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

191.715 FINGERPRINTS:

Developed: Yes No (X) Identification made: Yes No (X) PHOTOGRAPHS:

Scene: Yes No (X) Victim: Yes (X) No By: P.C.S.0 Forensics Evidence: Yes (X) No Caretaker Logs Defendant(s): Yes'( ) No (X) Photo Line-Up: Yes ( ) No (X) Identification made: N/A Physical Line-Up: Yes ( ) No (X) Identification made: N/A Confrontation: Yes (X) No Non-custodial interviews SEARCH AND SEIZURE:

Consent to Search: Yes ( ) No (X) By Whom:

Search Warrant: Yes ( ) No (X) By Whom:

Incident to Arrest Yes ( ) No (X) By Whom:

Property Seized: Yes ( ) No (X) By Whom:

CONFESSION/ADMISSION:

To Law Enforcement: Yes No (X) By Whom: N/A ( )Oral ( )Written ( )Taped To Whom:, N/A : (000-) CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 6 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 15] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Officer James Ferro ADDRESS: 645 Pierce Street Clearwater, Florida 37756 EMPLOYER: Clearwater Police Department BUSINESS TX: (813) 562-4200 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 03/14/96 DATE OF S/A DEPOSITION:

AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department REPORT SUPPLEMENT: 3/14/96 WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 being advised by the driver of vehicle #1 that Lisa was naked. e picking up Lisa's clothes and giving them to EMT.

CLEARWATER POLICE -;FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 7 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 16] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Officer Michael Stonelake ADDRESS: 645 Pierce Street Clearwater, Florida 33756 EMPLOYER: Clearwater Police Department .BUSINESS TX: (813) 662-4200 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 03/14/96 DATE OF S/A DEPOSITION;

AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department REPORT SUPPLEMENT: 12/04/95 WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO * investigating Lisa's accident at Belleview Blvd. and S.Ft.

* Harrison Ave. 9 seeing Lisa remove her clothes.

* Lisa's statements and strange behavior at the scene.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 8 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 17] CLEARWATER P OLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: EMT Mark Fabyanic ADDRESS: 4018 SW 20" Street Gainesville, Florida 32608 PAST EMPLOYER: Sunstar Ambulance Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 582-2090 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 03/3/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Larry Ruby, Gainesville Field Office LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 4018 SW 20' Street ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the EMT at the scene of the accident. Lisa's statements and strange behavior at the scene. transporting Lisa to Morton Plant Hospital.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 9 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 18] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Paramedic Bonnie Portolano ADDRESS: 12490 Ulmerton Road Largo, Florida 34640 EMPLOYER: Sunstar Ambulance Company BUSINES S TX: (813) 582-2090 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 03/14/96 INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler AUDIO TAPE: No LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Sunstar Ambulance Offices ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 04/02/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler WITNE SS CAN TESTIFY TO being the paramedic on scene who treated Lisa and transported her to hospital. seeing Lisa naked and obtaining voluntary Baker Act. hearing certain statements made by Lisa such as she wanted people to think that she was crazy, that she was a bad person, and she needed help.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 10 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 19] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: Joseph McDonald ADDRESS: 11575 Dauphin Avenue Largo, Florida 34648 EMPLOYER: Bob Lee's Garage BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1051 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 03/13/96 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Detective Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 812 Park Street - Bob Lee's Garage DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 2/10/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Detective J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW, 812 Park Street. - Bob Lee's Garage WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being the driver of the vehicle that Lisa hit.

€ seeing Lisa walking naked.

observing behavior of Lisa at the accident scene.

hearing the following statements made by Lisa.

1. "Where's the people, where's the people".

2. "I've got to conform".

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page I I ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 20] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5. 1996 WITNESS NAME: Jean Grant Andrews ADDRESS: 403 Mindy Drive Largo, Florida 34640 EMPLOYER: Unknown BUSINESS TX: (813) 581-0222 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/03/96.

AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF.INTERVIEW: Telephone WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the driver of vehicle #1 in first accident. seeing Lisa remove her clothes.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 021-030
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.188.24.175 X-Trace: news02 961743538 24.188.24.175 (Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:58:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:58:58 EDT Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!news01!news02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1132168 [PAGE 21] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECU TION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 6, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Dr. Flynn Lovett ADDRESS: 323 Jeffords Street Clearwater, Florida 33756 EMPLOYER: Morton Plant Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 462-7000 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 1/15/97 AUDIO TAPE: No - INTERVIEWER: SA Strope and Sgt. Andrews LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Morton Plant Hospital ATTORNEY: None DATE OF I NTERVIEW#2: 2/24/97 INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € picking out Humberto Fontana as being at the ER.

€ being assured by church members Lisa would receive 24 hour care.

€ signing Lisa out against medical advice.

€ Lisa's physical condition. .0 Lisa's psychological condition.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 13 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 22] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY, CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1996 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Cynthia Lynelle Price ADDRESS: 1100 Turner Street #201 Clearwater, Florida 34616 EMPLOYER: Morton Plant Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 462-7000 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 2/24/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Morton Plant Hospital ATTORNEY: None (7 WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO admitting Lisa to Morton Plant Hospital on 11/18/95.

CLEAR WATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 14 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 23] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November .18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: RN Joseph Earl Price ADDRESS: 10126 4' Street East Treasure Island, Florida EMPLOYER: Morton Plant Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 363-3139 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 8/21/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: No DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 2/26/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € conducting psychological assessment of Lisa on 11/18/95.

€ statements made by Lisa.

€ Lisa being influenced by members of COS.

€ identifying certain church members as being at Morton Plant Hospital.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 15 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 24] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1996 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Kimberly Marie Brennan ADDRESS: 1043 Milwaukee Avenue Dunedin, Florida 34698 EMPLOYER: Morton Plant Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 462-7000 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/28/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo and SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € signing of medical release.

€ being the EMT on duty at Morton Plant Hospital ER.

€ conducting a physical assessment of Lisa.

€ talking to Lisa at Morton Plant Hospital.

€ seeing Lisa talking to church members.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 16 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 25] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1996 WITNESS NAME: PCT Willie Burdette ADDRESS: 8135 Tanglewood Drive New Port Richey, Florida 34654 EMPLOYER: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 848-4468 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 01/28/97 INTERVIEWER: Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Columbia HCA Hospital ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the Patient Care Technician at HCA Emergency Room on 12/5/95.

helping remove Lisa from the vehicle. administering CPR to Lisa at ER.

observing the condition of Lisa when she arrived at HCA.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 17 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 26] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: RN Barbara Schmid ADDRESS: 8110 Tarsiers Avenue New Port Richey, Florida EMPLOYER: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 848-4468 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 12/8/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Columbia HCA Hospital DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/14/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola and Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Schmid's residence ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being the RN who treated Lisa at HCA ER.

€ observing that in her opinion Lisa was dead for 15-20 minutes.

€ having conversations with Dr. Minkoff regarding Lisa.' * seeing that Lisa was dirty and had a rash. .

'CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 18 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 27] I CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Dr. David Minkoff ADDRESS: 404 Edgewood Avenue Clearwater, Florida Employer: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 848-4468 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/13/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 04/15/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Sgt. Mark Teunis LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Jim Felman DATE OF INTERVIEW #3: 04-22-97 AUDIO TAPE: NO INTERVIEWER: ASA M., McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office .ATTORNEY: Jim Felman WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO prescribing valium and chloral hydrate for Lisa McPherson while she was at the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

Janis Johnson and Alain Kartuzinski making decisions regarding Lisa's care while she was at the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

Janis Johnson calling him at HCA Hospital on 12-05-95 at approximately 1900 hrs.

Janis Johnson requesting a prescription for penicillin on 12-05-95 because she thought that Lisa may have strep throat. Continue CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 19 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 28] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY.

€ telling Janis Johnson on the evening of 12-05-95, "if she is that sick you had better take her to Morton Plant Hospital".

€ Lisa being brought into HCA at approximately 2130 hrs. on 12-05-95 and that she had no vital signs.

€ drawing blood from Lisa for testing.

€ saying that someone "Neglected to handle a medical situation in a timely, manner".

€ Lisa appearing dehydrated.

€ the fact that he did not give Janis Johnson authorization to administer a shot to Lisa.

€ the fact that a prescription is required to obtain valiurn and magnesium chloride IM.

€ releasing Lisa's medical information to the COS.

€ COS policy stating that Lisa should have had a complete physical examination prior to her watch.

€ the fact that Lisa was not an ordinary case and that it was "Horrifying to see a young person in that condition".

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 29] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to-December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: R.N. Rick Pemberton ADDRESS: 10400 Florida Wren Avenue Brooksville, Florida 34614 EMPLOYER: Columbia HCA Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 848-4468 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/08/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Columbia HCA Hospital ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW,12: 3/6/17 AUDIO TAPE:. Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW:- -Columbia New Port Richey Hospital ATTORNEY:

None 7 WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO I € removing Lisa from Janis Johnson's car at HCA.

€ observing that Lisa was deceased when he first made contact with her.

€ assisting in treating Lisa.

€ overhearing a telephone conversation between Janis Johnson and Dr.

Minkoff.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 21 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 30] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Dr. David John Niles ADDRESS: 650 Richmond Close Tarpon Springs, Florida EMPLOYER: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 845-9115 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 02114/97 AUDIO TAPED: No INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 650 Richmond Close ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the ER doctor on duty at HCA hospital.

observing the victim hadgray pallor and looked like she- had severe anorexia.

the fact that in his *Opinion Lisa looked dead upon arrival.

observing bruises on Lisa's body.

intubating Lisa.

overhearing Dr. Minkoff talking to Janis Johnson on the telephone.

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1995 WITNESS NAME: Theresa Anne Klimaszewski ADDRESS: 7971 Avenal Loop New Port Richey, Florida 34655 EMPLOYER: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 845-9115 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/6/97 INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo AUDIO TAPED: Yes LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being the ER nurse who-responded to the van.

€ detecting no vital signs..

€ 'drawing blood from victim.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 32] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: R.N. Roxanne Jeanne Koeplin ADDRESS: 4812 Elmwood Street New Port Richey, Florida EMPLOYER: Columbia New Port Richey Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 845-9115 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/13/97 AUDIO TAPED: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo / 'Sgt.

Andrews LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Koelpin's Residence ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a RN on duty at HCA Emergency Room.

€ overhearing Dr. Minkoff talking to Janis Johnson on the telephone.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 33] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#-. 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Fannie McPherson (Deceased) ADDRESS: 2324 Jonesboro Avenue Dallas, Texas 75228 EMPLOYER: None BUSINESS TX: None DATE OF INTERVIEW. 12/8/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Telephone ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW. 04/14/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEK, - T-elephone A17ORNEY: None SYNOPSIS OF STATEMENT:

Fannie McPherson advised she spoke to her daughter approximately three weeks prior to her death. At that time, she did not mention any health problems and appeared to be fine.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 25 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 34] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Gloria Cruz ADDRESS: 300 Buttonwood Lane Largo, Florida 34640 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/11/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Carolyn Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 05/16/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Margaret Jewett LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department, ATTORNEY: RobertJohnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € residing with Lisa. - € last seeing Lisa on Nov. 15, 1995.

€ seeing Lisa's suitcases in their apartment on Nov. 19, 1995.

€ being told by Bennetta Slaughter about Lisa's accident.

SEE PAGE 95 FOR ADDITIONAL INTERVIEW.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY' Summary Page 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 35] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Kurt Paine* ADDRESS: 1704 N. Osceola Avenue Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: Self-employed BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-5595 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/12/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Carolyn Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 1704 N. Osceola Avenue ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW 112: 03/06/97.

AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 1704 N. Osceola Avenue ATTORNEY: None.

WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € dating Lisa from 8-94 to 5-95.

€ sharing a bank account with Lisa.

€ observing no unusual behavior of Lisa.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 27 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 36] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Dr. Jeannie De cuypere ADDRESS: 1250 Rodgers Street Suite A Clearwater, Florida 34616 EMPLOYER: Chiropractor BUSINESS TX: (813) 449-8080 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/16/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Margaret Jewett LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 1250 Rodgers Street Suite A ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € treating Lisa in July. 1995 for the Florida heat.

€ being called by Bennetta Slaughter to go to Morton Plant Hospital ER on 11-18-95.

€ being present at bedside of Lisa at ER.

signing and witnessing release against medical advice.

See page 93 for updated interview.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 37] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSEC UTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Judy Goldsberry - Weber ADDRESS: 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, Florida 34616 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology Staff Liaison Medical Officer BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 05/29/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Carolyn Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Bob Johnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € referring Lisa to'br.-becuyp-e-r-e.

€ being at Morton Plaht"Hospital ER with victim.

€ being liaison for the church with hospital.

€ signing Lisa's release form against medical advice.

See page 85 for updated interview.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 38] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESSISUSPECT NAME: Alain Kartuzinski ADDRESS: Quality Inn-Room 260 16432 U.S. Highway 19 Clearwater, Florida 34615 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 12/6/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Sgt. Mark Teunis LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Clearwater Bank Building ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson DATE OF INTERVIEW: 5/30/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Carolyn - Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: -:-Clearwater Police Ddpartment-_.

ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being only slightly acquainted with Lisa McPherson.

€ being responsible for supervision of case supervisors.

€ having no idea who Lisa's case supervisor was. (investigation revealed, he was her case supervisor) * being told by assistant Lacy Spencer that victim had a sore throat.

€ contacting Janis Johnson about caring for victim.

having little to no contact with victim.

driving victim from Morton Plant Hospital ER.

being present when Janis Johnson talked to Dr. Minkoff on the telephone.

the fact that all caretakers reports were directed to him.

being present when Janis Johnson talked to Dr. Minkoff on Dec. 5, 1995.

sending a questionnaire inquiring about Lisa's condition to Security Chief.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 39] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESSISU SPECT NAME: Janis Johnson ADDRESS: 551 North Saturn Avenue 1-6 Clearwater, Florida .

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 12/6/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Carolyn Carrasquillo, Det.

Howard LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 551 North Saturn Avenue ATTORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/29/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron.Sudler, Det. Carolyn:

qprrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW.:,--.. Clearwater Police Department .ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € receiving a call from Alain Kartuzinski to attend to Lisa.

€ stating during her first interview that Lisa did not appear "that sick".

giving Lisa various medications.

not knowing Lisa but seeing her around.

having first contact with Lisa around Thanksgiving 1995 stating that she received information second hand on victim during the watch.

Seeing bruises on Lisa.

observing Lisa was thinner on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 40] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS/SUSPECT NAME: Laura Arrunada ADDRESS: Unknown Mexico EMPLOYER: None BUSINESS TX: None DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/6/95 INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Sgt. Mark Teunis LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Bank Building ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO having approximately -7!years of medical training.

being recruited by-Alain Kartuzinski to get involved in Lisa's watch.

doing her first watch on 11-25-95.

seeing Lisa drinking her own urine and taking showers with her clothes on.

doing a watch on 11-26-95.

updating Janis Johnson regarding Lisa'simedical condition.

giving Lisa chloral hydrate at the direction of Janis Johnson.

the prescription for chloral hydrate being written by Dr. Minkoff.

being on watch on 12-2-95 through 12-5-95.

attempting to feed Lisa with the help of a turkey baster type instrument.

Lisa's condition on 12-5-95 while receiving a bath.

telling Janis Johnson at approximately 1800 hrs. on 12-5-95 that Lisa was not looking good.

Janis Johnson coming to see Lisa at approximately 1900 hrs. on 12-5-95.

carrying Lisa with Paul Greenwood to Janis Johnson's van.

* Janis Johnson making the decision to transport Lisa to HCA Hospital.

* the fact that during the watch she would not allow Lisa to leave the room.

* observing Janis Johnson write reports to Alain Kartuzinski.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 041-050
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CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Paul Greenwood ADDRESS: 503 Cleveland Street Clearwater, Florida 34615 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW #1: 12/6/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Sgt. Mark Teunis LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Bank Building ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson DATE OF INTERVIEW #2: 04/09196 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Sgt. Mark Teunis LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson DATE OF INTERVIEW #3: 2/11/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Det. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW:' Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Kevin Darken WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being asked by his senior A.J.Sprecher to assist in transporting Lisa to HCA.

being notified by A.J. Sprecher at approximately 2000 hrs. that he was to assist with Lisa.

meeting with the security guards at the Cabanas on 12-5-95.

seeing Laura Arrunada in Lisa's room when he arrived.

observing Lisa's condition' when he arrived at the room.

Continue CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 42] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY € observing that Lisa was lying on the bed on her back, clothed, eyes fixed and non-responsive, € observing that Lisa's breathing was loud and she was not moving.

€ observing that Lisa's body was limp.

€ using Janis Johnson's van to take Lisa to HCA hospital in New Port Richey.

€ observing that Lisa made no movements during the trip to HCA.

€ observing that half way to HCA Lisa's breathing changed from loud to quiet.

€ being asked by security to author a report concerning Lisa.

€ seeing various "marks" on Lisa's hands during her transport.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 43] . CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Rita Boykin ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Avenue Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/18/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Det. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: John F. Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € the schedules for the.watch being set.-by, Olivia Jaillo € the fact that Lisa was violent and that everything except the bed and dresser had been removed from the room.

€ Lisa not eating.

giving Lisa chloral hydrate.

Janis Johnson visiting Lisa at least a couple of times a night.

writing a report for each shift she worked on the watch.

Janis Johnson and Alain Kartuzinski being in charge of the watch.

directing all of her reports to Alain Kartuzinski and that some of her reports are missing.

assisting in bathing Lisa on 12-05-95.

writing reports both before and after Lisa's death.

observing Lisa's condition on the night of 12-04-95 and the day of 12-05-95.

guards being posted at the Cabana door.

that at no time during,the watch did anyone suggest that Lisa seek medical attention.

being told by Janis Johnson on 11-29-95 regarding Lisa "no more chloral hydrate".

having knowledge.concerning the demotions of Johnson, Kartuzinski, and Baxter.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 35 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 44] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 96-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 6. - 1995 WITNESS NAME: Alfonso Barcenas ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Avenue Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 03/25/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Det. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Kevin Darkin WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a security trainee in Nov..1995.

€ his seniors being Paul Kelle'rha.ls- and Arthur Baxter...

€ spending 12 hours per day outside'bf Lisa's room.

€ the fact that approximately 5 days prior to Lisa's death he was told he was not needed anymore.

€ observing Janis Johnson come to Lisa's room at least twice a shift for the duration of his watch (8-10 days).

€ taking the phone out of Lisa's room, and Lisa having no visitors.

€ helping caretakers hold Lisa down when she became violent.

€ being told by Paul Kellerhals that no one could visit Lisa without Kellerhals' permission.

€ reports being written and forwarded to Alain Kartuzinski.

€ not allowing Lisa to leave the room.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 45] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Valerie'Demange ADDRESS: 551 N Saturn Ave. Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 Date Of Interview: 03/20/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Det. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Poli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being one of Lisa's caretakers.

working her first watch addressing her reports to Alain Kartuzinski who was in charge of the watch.

Lisa's violent behavior and her attempt to break a window.

Janis Johnson visiting'Lisa.

having one year of nurse's training.

being on watch for ten hour shifts from 11-26-95 through 11-29-95.

observing that on 11-29-95 Lisa was violent, looking tired, not sleeping, and losing weight.

knowing that Janis Johnson was the Medical Liaison Officer.

observing bruises on Lisa.

seeing Janis Johnson administering Lisa an injection of Magnesium chloride on 11-29-95.

the fact that she would not let Lisa leave the room.

* admitting that she wrote reports and that some of them are missing.

* giving Lisa chloral hydrate.

Janis Johnson checking Lisa's respiration.

overhearing Janis Johnson talking to Dr. Minkoff regarding the injection during the watch.

the fact that Lisa did not bite or scratch herself.

the fact that no one attempted to get Lisa outside medical attention and that Lisa had no contact with family.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 46] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Brenda Hubert ADDRESS: Unknown EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 10/02/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € first meeting Lisa through the Church of Scientology sometime around 1980.

€ working with Lisa and the Slaughters at Atlantic Financial Mortgage Corporation in mid 1980's.

€ talking Lisa into going to work for AMC Publishing in January of 1990.

€ Lisa filing for bankruptcy in 1989.

€ Lisa acting "strange" in June of 1995.

€ Lisa talking about suicide in mid to late June of 1995, saying "I just don't think I want to live anymore".

€ being with Lisa in Orlando and observing Lisa's odd behavior, and writing a report about Lisa's behavior.

€ having her report written on November 19, 1995 edited.

€ being told Lisa was dead on arrival at the hospital by fellow Scientologist Mary Vogeldean.

it being "very rare" to have individuals in Lisa's circumstances stay at the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 47] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.1995 WITNESS NAME: David Slaughter ADDRESS: 300 Buttonwood Lane Largo, Florida EMPLOYER:' AMC Publishing Owner BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 12/06/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. C. Carrasquillo, Det. R.

Howard LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: AMC Publishing ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO Lisa working for-him at AMC publishing.

stating, he did not know Lisa very well.

going to Morton Plant Hospital ER to check on Lisa at the time of accident.

the fact that Lisa was not at work between 11/18/95 through 12/5/95, due to some unknown ailment.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 39 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 48] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Bennetta Slaughter ADDRESS: 300 Buttonwood Lane Largo, Florida EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 12/07/95 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: Det. C. Carrasquillo, Det. M.

Schaffner LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. AMC Publishing ATTORNEY: Robert Johnson DATE OF INTERVIEW. .05/16/96 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler, Det. Margaret Jewett LOCATION OF INTERVIEW:--.; Clearwater:Police*De0arthieht, ATTORNEY: RobertJohrison WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being the supervisor of Lisa at AMC Publishing.

€ not seeing or hearing from Lisa the entire time she was in isolation.

€ being told by Dr. Minkoff that Lisa died of an infection in a matter of hours.

€ having limited contact with Lisa.

€ calling Jeannie Decuypere to go to Morton Plant Hospital ER.

€ sending her husband David to Morton Plant Hospital ER.

€ not knowing what Lisa's first stay at the Ft. Harrison Hotel was about.

€ being Lisa's best friend and possibly checking on Lisa but not sure.

€ collecting Lisa's bags from hotel after her death.

€ receiving Lisa's personal items from Brian Anderson.

€ being notified by Debra Cook of Lisa's death.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 49] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 .DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Jeffrey Schaffner ADDRESS: 1600 Gulf Boulevard Apt. 716 Clearwater, Florida 'EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 12/7/95 INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: AMC Publishing ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being an officer at AMC publishing.

identifying Lisa's body at the Pinellas County Medical Examiners.Office.

working with Lisa since March 1990.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGE 50] CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1996 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Brian Rakestraw ADDRESS: 2492 Coachwhip Terrace Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: 013) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 12/7/95 INTERVIEWER: Det. Ron Sudler LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. AMC Publishing A17ORNEY: None DATE OF INTERVIEW: 4/10/97 INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ron Cacciatore WITNESS* CAN TESTIFY To providing identification of Lisa's body at Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office.

knowing Lisa about one year.

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||||| From: Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 051-060
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€ being the executor of Lisa's estate.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 43 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1996 WITNESS NAME: Kelly Marie Davis ADDRESS: 3722 Gus Thomasson Road Mesquite, Texas 75150 EMPLOYER: N/A BUSINESS TX: N/A DATE OF INTERVIEW. 02/17/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. 2324 Jonesboro Ave., Dallas ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO Y rs in s an € Lisa apologizirio i6r&er thb': 06' bef. g so di afid not keeping in touch.

€ Lisa having "a lot to talk about" with Davis but did not want to talk about R over the telephone, but could not wait to get back to Dallas.

€ being told by Lisa that she was planning on returning to the Dallas area over the Thanksgiving Holiday, but she was having problems with her boss and was afraid her boss would do something to keep her from coming home.

€ being told by Lisa that if she was unable to come home for Thanksgiving she would be home for Christmas for sure, for good.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Ann Carlson ADDRESS: 7125 Fair Oaks Avenue Dallas, Texas EMPLOYER: None BUSINESS TX: None DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/18/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. 7125 Fair Oaks Avenue ATTORNEY: No WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 9 being a natural aunt of Lisa McPherson.

0 being told by Bennetta -Sla ug hter. after, Lisa's'de'ath that "all of us were trying - to lose weight".

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 45 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Kimberly Krenek ADDRESS: 6503 Robbey Creek Cove Austin, Texas 78750 EMPLOYER: N/A BUSINESS TX: N/A DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/17/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo,'SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 6503 Robbey Creek Cove ATTORNEY: No WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being a first cousiribf Lis~~ MdPheitsbn.' CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 46 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Carol Hawk ADDRESS: 4806 Canyonbend Circle Austin, Texas EMPLOYER: N/A BUSINESS TX: N/A DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/19/97 AUDIO TAPE: * Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. 4806 Canyonbend Circle ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a childhood friend Lisa- McPherson.

€ the fact that Kelly Davis told her that Lisa wanted to leave the church., € the fact that Lisa wanted to move back to Dallas.

CLEARWATER POLICE +DLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 47 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWAT~R POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Lee Skelton .ADDRESS: 3669-Ainsworth Dallas, Texas EMPLOYER: N/A BUSINESS TX: N/A DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/20/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Telephone ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being a natural aunt.of Lisa McPherson.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 48 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Cathy Skelton Little ADDRESS: 3738 Bluetrace Drive Dallas, Texas 75244 EMPLOYER: N/A BUSINESS TX: N/A DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/20/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Telephone ATTORNEY: None - WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being a cousin of 01S;-ai-MC-Phersbn.'-'-* CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Robert Incerto ADDRESS: 811 Osceola Road Belleair, Florida EMPLOYER: Owner, Belleair Greens Apartment BUSINESS TX:

DATE OF INTERVIEW. 2/10/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Feola'Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 811 Osc~ola Road ATTORNEY: No WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being owner/manager of apartment complexwhere victim lived; seeing victim come to her ap6rtment between Nov. 18, 1995, and Dec. 4, 1995, with.two other women. seeing her appearance as disheveled. Lisa not responding to his hello., CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY C PD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Carolyn Torrillo ADDRESS: 6733 River Road New Port Richey, Florida EMPLOYER: North Bay Hospital BUSINESS TX: (813) 817-4301 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/14/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. 6733 River Road ATTORNEY: None WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO seeing Lisa standing: naked and -dhantirig -on- balcony-of apartment complex in the fall of 1995.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Solomon Spencer ADDRESS: 601 E. Rosery Road Largo, Florida 33770 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/25/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. 601 E. Rosery Rd.

ATTORNEY: None at time (Ron Cacciatore) WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a co worker of Lisa at AMC Publishing € stating he had no useful information.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 061-070
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.188.24.175 X-Trace: news02 961867054 24.188.24.175 (Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:17:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:17:34 EDT Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!news01!news02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1132907 I CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Craig Burton ADDRESS: 2030 McKinley Road Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/10/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a long time friend of Lisa € being a co-worker at AMC who w ' orked closely-with Lisa.

€ observing what he considered -to be -unusual -and odd,behavior by Lisa at the convention.

€ writing a letter to the church about Lisa's odd behavior while at the convention in Orlando. The letter contained the following excerpts:

1. While eating breakfast Lisa did not know where she was and didn't know how to get back to her room.

2. Lisa woke up in the night and said "the end is near~'.

3. Lisa was irrational.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Katherine "Katie" Chamberlain ADDRESS:. 1322-1"Avenue NW Largo, Florida EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BU.SlNESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 2/10/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being a co-worker of Lisa at AMC -Publishing.- - being a close personal friend. being with Lisa on Nov. 18, 1995 until 1600 hrs. not noting any unusual behavior just prior to the accident.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAWENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 96-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Keri Aileen Lee (Beilhart) and Thomas Beilhart ADDRESS: 1554 Linwood Drive Clearwater, Florida 34615 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/12/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being co-workers of Lisa ' at AMC* Publishing.

€ being unable to provide useful information.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Cathleen and Terry Hemphill ADDRESS: 2630 Pearce Drive #401 Clearwater, Florida 34624 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/21/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 being co-workers of Lisa at AMC Publishing. * being unable to provide useful information.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 56 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Nolan Wallace Cage ADDRESS: 1301 Highfield Drive Clearwater, FI 34624 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 4/1/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, Det. James Little LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a co-workerof Lisa at AMC Publishing.

€ knowing Lisa in Dallas, Tx; in early 1980's.

€ being unable to provide useful information.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY - Sumnary Page 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to-December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: Shirley "DeDe" Cage - ADDRESS: 1301 Highfield Drive Clearwater, Florida 34634 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/21/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO * being a supervisor of Lisa at AMC. * being a personal friend of Lisa.

* knowing Lisa in Dallas -and Clearwater~---0 Being unable to provide useful information.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: Carol and Steven South ADDRESS: 725 Spencer Avenue Clearwater, Florida EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3/12/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: SA Feola, Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being co-workers of Lisa at AMC Publishing.

€ being familiar with 1ritrospection Rundown".

€ Steven stating that when Lisa-became sick, church officials should have sought medical attention.

€ Steven being a medical liaison officer while in Dallas, and as such knowing that when someone in the COS has a physical problem they must be seen by a doctor.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 59 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: Gurney Mallory Pasco ADDRESS: 253 Grove Circle South Dunedin, Florida 34698 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company (Past Employee) BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: -4/1/97 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, Det. James Little LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TEST IFY TO * being a co-worker of Lisa at AMC Publishing. * claiming to have seen, Lisa in the, pool and.talking to her while she was at the Ft. Harrison Hotel, -during her-November 1995 stay. being unable to provide any useful information.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 60 CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Franz Joseph Reiter ADDRESS: 13215 1111 Lane North Largo, Florida 33778 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 4/1197 AUDIO TAPE: Yes INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo, Det. James Little LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ronald Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € having met Lisa at COS in Dallas in mid 1980's.

€ dating Lisa in 1991 for approximately, one year.

€ seeing Lisa at the convention and not noting any unusual behavior.

€ the fact that Lisa was a very upbeat person.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 61 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Patricia Stracener ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/03/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, SA Strope, Sgt.

Andrews LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Mr. Robert Poli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € Alain Kartuzinski conducting the briefing regarding the victim's watch.

€ being on watch on 11-24-97 with Anna Pendizini.

€ being told by Alain Kartuzinski that Lisa was not to leave the room.

€ security guards being posted at the door.

€ Lisa attempting to break out a window.

€ Lisa's room being kept dark.

€ Lisa being visited by Janis Johnson.

€ sifting on top of Lisa to keep her calm.

€ the fact that Lisa did not eat or drink during her watch.

€ observing bruises on Lisa's legs, arms, and hands.

€ writing reports directed to Alain Kartuzinski.

€ that in her opinion Janis Johnson was in charge of Lisa's medical condition.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 071-080
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Date Of Interview: 4/2/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Poli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being on watch on 11-23-95 and 11-26-95 through 12-02-95.

€ getting her instructions concerning Lisa's care from Alain Kartuzinski.

€ Lisa being agitated,'wetting her-bed, sideping:very little, -not,eating, or drinking.

€ the fact that Lisa looked worse as the watch progressed.

€ security guards being posted outside Lisa's room.

€ Janis Johnson giving an injection to Lisa. The injection was administered in the buttocks while two others held Lisa on the floor.

€ writing three reports, one in Spanish.

€ writing a report after Lisa's death at the request of Marcus Quirino.

€ Lisa getting steadily more tired and losing weight.

€ the fact that on 12-02-95 Lisa was lying on the floor breathing heavily, eyes fixed and too weak to get up.

€ the fact that only Alain Kartuzinski had the power to send Lisa to the hospital.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Paul Kellerhals EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology ADDRESS: 210 S. FT. Harrison Ave.

BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 Date Of Interview: 4/30/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being the Assistant Chief of Security in Nov. 1995.

€ seeing Lisa McPherson on 11-18-95.

€ reporting to Alain Kartuzinski regarding Lisa.

€ setting the schedule for the security guards.

€ hearing yelling and screaming coming from Lisa's room.

€ 'entering Lisa's room and finding it dark and her naked.

€ Lisa striking Joan Stevens.

€ restraining Lisa on her bed because she was being violent.

€ the fact that Lisa had spasms.

€ Alain Kartuzinski receiving reports from caretakers.

€ seeing Janis Johnson in Lisa's room. seeing Alain Kartuzinski in Lisa's room.

€ seeing Dr. Houghton in Lisa's room.

€ Lisa wrapping her ha nd around his tie and pulling on it.

€ Lisa trying to stab, him with hispen.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 64 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: . Emma Schamerhorn ADDRESS: 551 N.Saturn Ave.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 Date Of Interview: 4/24/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO the fact that Janis Johnson was the staff medical liaison officer in Nov. 95.

the fact that Janis Johnson was demoted after Lisa died.

being at Morton Plant Hospital with Lisa on Nov. 18, 1995.

being with Alain Kartuzinski when Lisa was taken from Morton Plant Hospital.

to the Ft. Harrison Hotel'on 11-18-95.

the fact that Lisa appeared physically fit on 11-18-95.

attending a meeting on 11-25-95 in the office of Alain Kartuzinski with Dr.

David Houghton in which the care of Lisa was discussed.

Alain Kartuzinski being in charge of the watch.

the fact that Lisa could not leave the room without Alain Kartuzinski's permission.

assisting Dr. Houghton, Lacey Spencer, and Heather Petzold in holding down Lisa to take her temperature.

security guards being posted outside Lisa's room.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 65 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: David Houghton ADDRESS: Quality Inn, U.S. 19 Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 462-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 4/24/97 AUDIO TAPE: NO INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being in Gainesville, Florida from 11-28-95 to 12-11-95 for a dental licensing examination.

€ giving Lisa aspirin and benadryl to help her sleep on at least three different occasions. He gave the medicines using a turkey baster type instrument.

€ the fact that Lisa was not voluntarily taking any food or fluids.

e. observing bruises on Lisa on 11-27-95.

€ overhearing a telephone conversation between Janis Johnson and Dr.

David Minkoff.

€ discussing Lisa's medical condition with Dr. Minkoff.

€ obtaining a prescription for liquid valium from Dr.

Minkoff.

€ picking up the valiurn from Eckerd Drug Store.

€ Alain Kartuzinski being in charge of the watch.

€ Janis Johnson being in charge of Lisa's medical condition and treatment.

€ being given the money for the valium by Alain Kartuzinski.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1996 WITNESS NAME: Joan Stevens ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing Company BUSINESS TX (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 4/10/97 AUDIO TAPE: No INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO * being asked by Leslie Woodcraft to be involved in the watch.

0 being involved in the first watch on 11-23-95.

* observing Janis Johnson With Lisa on 11-23-95 * observing a guard p6sted~60W&*6'f Lisa's"66orn.

0 the fact that Lisa had dressed to leave the room and was stopped by Joan and security guard Sam Ghiora and "guided" back into the room.

e writing a report concerning her watch.

0 Lisa's behavior and physical condition during the watch.

* seeing Paul Kellerhals having a physical altercation with Lisa.

e seeing the security guards hold Lisa dow n during the watch.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY.

Summary Page 67 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Barbro Wennberg ADDRESS: Quality Inn, U.S. 19, Clearwater EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/10/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 being requested by Paul Kellerhals to get involved in the watch.

0 being on the watch on two different days.

9 there being a security guard posted outside the door.

* the fact that Lisa was violent and that she slapped -Joan Stevens.

0 requesting security to help'her control Lisa - * the fact that Dr. David Houghton fed Lisa and gave her aspirin and benadryl using a "turkey baster".type instrument.

e writing reports concerning the watch.

* writing a report after Lisa's death at the request of Marcus Quirino.

* having prior medical experience.

* the fact that Lisa was not allowed to leave the room.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Andrea J. Sprecher ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

.EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/06/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Kevin Darken WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being advised initially about Lisa's watch by.Emma Schamerhorn.

€ the fact that Alain Kartuzinski was "Calling the shots"~- € the fact that Alain Kartuzinski had requested Janis Johnson to assist with Lisa's watch.

€ security guards being posted outside of Lisa's room.

€ being asked to help move Lisa to HCA on 12-05-95 but sending Paul Greenwood instead, because he was stronger.

COS policy that states injections would have to be administered by a doctor.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 69 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002' DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Asher Samuel Ghiora ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 05/06/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, I Det. Carrasquillo LOCATION * OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Kevin Darken WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO working as a security guard trainee during the Lisa McPherson watch.

having to "guide" Lisiback into her room after she -attempted to leave.'' not seeing Lisa eat or drink anything except protein drinks.

being taken off the watch approximately 5 days before Lisa died.

witnessing David Houghton giving Lisa medicine through a turkey baster type instrument.

writing at least three reports concerning Lisa's watch.

being advised by Arthur Baxter to "guide" Lisa back into her room if she tried to leave.

that on at least two occasions Lisa exited her room and had to be "guided back into room.

Seeing Lisa standing by the open doorway. When he approached Lisa, she tried to kick him in the scrotum and do a two finger eye gouge on him.

€ the fact that Janis Johnson was present when Lisa walked out the door.

€ the fact that he would not allow Lisa to leave the room without the permission of either Paul Kellerhals or Afthur Baxter.

€ Lisa not being able to take care of herself.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 70 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Michael Arthur Stuart Baxter ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, FI EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/06/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, Det.

Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY:. Kevin Darken WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being advised by either David or Bennetta. Slaughter that Lisa was at the Ft.

-Harrison Hotel.

Alain Kartuzinski being Lisa's case supervisor.

having a telephone conversation with Alain Kartuzinski in which Alain said that he was transporting Lisa from Morton Plant Hospital to theft. Harrison Hotel.

obtaining room 174 at the Cabanas for Lisa.

Paul Kellerhals being in charge of the security portion and Alain Kartuzinski being in charge of the spiritual portion.

instructing security guard Ghiora to "guide" Lisa back into her room if she should try to leave.

Alain Kartuzinski having the authority to release Lisa.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 71 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Heather Noelle Petzold ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/10/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being asked by Paul Kellerhals to get involved in Lisa's watch.

first seeing Lisa at the Cabanas on 11-22-95.

there being security guards posted at the door the fact that the ultimate goal was to get Lisa into "session".

Lisa's declining physical condition from her first visit to 12-05-95.

Lisa defecating in her bed.

writing reports addressed to Alain Kartuzinski concerning her watch with Lisa.

writing in a report that Lisa was getting worse and something had to be done.

the fact that close to the time of her death Lisa was no longer walking and was crawling on the floor.

the fact that the day before Lisa died she was not moving or talking much.' the fact that on 12-05-95 she helped carry Lisa -to the bathroom to give.her a bath at approximately 1600 hrs.

helping dress Lisa after her bath and then helping place her on the bed.

the fact that Lisa could not sit and had to be held while in the bathtub.

Lisa's physical deterioration during her last 4-5 days.

the fact that she never saw Lisa eat anything substantial and she (Petzold) was getting frantic.

Lisa's mouth being dry. Continue CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 7 2 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 081-090
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.188.24.175 X-Trace: news02 961867116 24.188.24.175 (Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:18:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:18:36 EDT Path: news2.lightlink.com!news.lightlink.com!skynet.be!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!news01!news02.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news2.lightlink.com alt.religion.scientology:1132909 CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY 9 the fact that on 12-4-95 and 12-5-95 Lisa's breathing became less frequent and her respirations were shorter.

* saying that "you don't have to be medically trained to realize that a person has to eat".

observing Janis Johnson giving an injection to Lisa.

writing a report to Marcus Quirino.after Lisa's death.

the fact that Janis Johnson, Arthur Baxter, and Alain Kartuzinski were all demoted by the church as a result of Lisa's death.

the fact that in her opinion the church did not do the right thing in Lisa's case.

on many occasions in the past an ambulance has been summoned to the Ft.

Harrison Hotel.

Lisa crawling around on her hands and knees and then on her elbows.

seeing Alain Kartuzinski outside of Lisa's room during the watch.

the fact that during Lisa's bath on 12-05-95 her eyes were fixed on the ceiling, her breathing labored, and her sphincter muscle was relaxed.

seeing bruises on Lisa's wrists, legs, and hands.

seeing two scratches on Lisa's nose.

having a walkie-talkie to communicate with the security guards that were posted outside of Lisa's room.

watching Lisa during the last days of her life.

the fact that on 11-24-95 Lisa became violent and was held down on the bed for approximately one hour by Paul Kellerhals.

observing David Houghton giving Lisa medication with the help of a turkey baster type instrument.

the fact that after Lisa was given medicine on 11-24-95 she laid back down and began moaning.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLEr,. CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1996 WITNESS NAME: Marcus Quirino ADDRESS: 551 Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461 1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/27/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € first meeting Lisa in March or April of 1995.

€ the fact that Lisa's financial records are located in her Treasury Account Folder.

€ Alain Kartuzinski being Lisa's Case Supervisor.

€ being told by Alain Kartuzinski that Lisa was under watch at the Ft.

Harrison Hotel and was being prepared for "Introspection Rundown".

€ being present while Brian Anderson via the telephone spoke to Dr.

Janis Johnson and Dr. Minkoff who were at HCA on 12-595 at 2200 hrs.

€ seeing Heather Petzold's missing reports which stated "Lisa was pale, weak and sleeping more".

€ the fact that Rita Boykin gave Lisa at least three injections and Janis Johnson gave her at least one.

€ the fact the Lisa was not free to leave.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 74 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE:' November 18, 1995 to December 6.

1995 'WITNESS NAME: Teresa Hayde Cezare ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/07/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being assigned 2 watches 11-24-95 and 11-25-95. guards being posted outside of Lisa's room.

9 -Lisa not eating or drinking during her watch .

0 the fact that Lisa tried to leave her room 2 or 3 times and was "guided" back into her room each time.

9 writing two reports that were directed to Senior Case Supervisor Alain Kartuzinski.

0 holding Lisa's hands behind her back when she became violent.

Lisa being more violent during her second watch, and was still not eating or drinking.

hearing Lisa say "let me get out" when she would try to leave.

seeing security guard Alfonso Barcenas stop Lisa from leaving.

CLEARWATER POLICE.FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 75 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ . CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 6. - 1995 WITNESS NAME: Lacey Spencer ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/27/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO e working for Senior Case Supervisor Alain Kartuzinski in.November ' 19 ' 95.

9 the fact that Alain Kartuzinski had her checking daily as to - Lisa's condition.

* Alain Kartuzinski givi-ng her,handwriften questions concerning. Lisa during the watch.

the fact that Alain Kartuzinski maintained a file containing the caretaker notes.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 76 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to-December 5.

1995 WIT NESS NAME: Alice VanGrondelle ADDRESS:. 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/20/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 being briefed by Paul Kellerhals regarding the watch.

0 the fact that security guards were posted outside of -the door.' * being on the watch:1 1-21-95,forr approximately.1 6 hours.

0 Lisa being violent and eating or drinking very little.

0 writing a report addressed to Alain Kartuzinski concerning her watch with Lisa.

0 writing a knowledge report concerning Lisa that contained the following statements;

i. That Lisa was type three.

2. That Lisa was blabbering incoherently non-stop.

3. Lisa refused to eat or drink anything.

4. Lisa's breath was foul.

5. Lisa looked like she had measles or chickenpox.

6. Lisa felt warm to the touch.

7. Lisa became violent and threatened to kill her.

8. Lisa was out of control.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Leslie Woodcraft ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: .05/20197 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli , WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being asked by Arthur Baxter to assist with Lisa's watch.

€ a security guard being stationed on -a bench-outside the door.

€ Janis Johnson being in the roomwith Lisa.

€ the fact that she witnessed Janis Johnson giving Lisa a pill that Janis said would calm Lisa down.

€ all people involved in the watch would write reports directed to Alain Kartuzinski.

€ Alain Kartuzinski being in charge of the watch.

€ the fact that in her opinion Lisa could not make decisions for herself.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 78 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Anna Pendizini ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 05/20/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robed Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 the fact that a security guard was posted outside of Lisa's door.

0 Janis Johnson checking on Lisa. -Patricia . Stracener. - the fact that Lisa struck her and also -struck.

being on the watch on Friday 11-24-95 and Saturday 11-25- 95.

being on the watch on Monday 11-27-95.

observing bruises on Lisa's arms and legs.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 79 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Gilda Kay Burton ADDRESS: 2030 McKinley St.

Clearwater,Fl.

EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/11/97 INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Dept.

ATTORNEY: Ron Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO first meeting Lisa inDallas in 1982 when they were both members of the Church of Scientology.

0 working at AMC Publishing with Lisa.

0 Lisa expressing her desire to commit suicide during the summer of 1995.

0 writing a report to Brian Anderson regarding her trip to Dallas to attend Lisa's funeral.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 80 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6. 199 WITNESS NAME: Dr. Joan Wood M.E.

ADDRESS: 10850 Ulmerton Road Largo, Fl.34648 EMPLOYER: Pinellas County Medical Examiners Office BUSINESS TX: (813) 585-5671 DATE OF INTERVIEW: INTERVIEWER: LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: ATTORNEY:

WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the Medical Examiner for the County of Pinellas. severe dehydration found during the autopsy of victim, Lisa McPherson. her professional opinions relating to certain tests that were performed by her and personnel directly under her control.being the direct supervisor of pathologist Dr. Robert D. Davis.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 81 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME Dr. Robert D. Davis ADDRESS: Melbourne, Fl.

EMPLOYER: BUSINESS TX:

DATE OF INTERVIEW. INTERVIEWER: LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: ATTORNEY:

WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO conducting the autopsy on Lisa McPherson.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 091-100
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1995 WITNESS NAME: Margaret Jean Kern ADDRESS: 302 N. Madison Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33757 EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 04/11/97 INTERVIEWER: Det. J. Carrasquillo,- SA Feola LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Clearwater Police Department ATTORNEY: Ron Cacciatore WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € being a co-worker of Lisa at AMC Publishing.

€ not being able to add any pertinent information relating tothis'case.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 83 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Brenda Hubert ADDRESS: Unknown EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813)446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW: Written report INTERVIEWER:

LOCATION OF INTERVIEW:

ATTORNEY:

WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO € knowing Lisa for approximately 20 years.

€ being on staff together with Lisa for .6 years- in Dallas. - 0 attending a trade convention in Orlando with Lisa and other AMC Publishing - employees.

€ Lisa being "frantie on the way to Orlando.

€ Lisa not sleeping well.

€ Lisa exhibiting "erratic" behavior during the conference in Orlando.

Lisa telling her that she made mistakes that she could not make amends for.

telling Lisa that she would lose her job if she didn't straighten out.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROS ECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 84 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Judy Goldsberry-Weber ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, FI 33576 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 08/19/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Betsy Singer WITNESS.CAN TESTIFY TO 9 first having contact with Lisa in July of 1995 for a behavioral dysfunction problem Lisa was experiencing.

0 being dispatched to Morton Plant Hospital onNovember 18, 1995, being -instructed by Mr. Fontana to find out what was going on with Lisa and getting her discharged.

0 informing Dr. Lovett they would take care of Lisa 24 hours a day.

a getting Lisa out of the hospital and then being cut out of the loop regarding Lisa's care.

a Lisa having no signs of "type three" behavior at Morton Plant Hospital.

0 isolation watch not being handled properly.

e 'picking up a prescription of valium tablets for Lisa at Eckerd Drugs in Largo, written by Dr. Minkoff, and delivering same to COS.

* Overhearing a conversation between Arrunada, Houghton, and Johnson about Lisa being held down.

* having a screaming match with Janis Johnson about Lisa's condition, and being told "stay the hell out of it".

e treating Lisa's caretakers for injuries inflicted by Lisa.

e responding to the request of Alice VanGrondelle for the symptoms for dehydration approximately 10 days into the watch.

0 calling Judy Fontana on two occasions expressing her concern regarding Lisa's isolation watch.

CLEARWATER POLICE'-FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 85 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: John Grubb ADDRESS:

EMPLOYER: Pinellas County Sheriff's Office Forensic Specialist BUSINESS TX: (813) 582-6200 DATE OF INTERVIEW: INTERVIEWER: LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. ATTORNEY:

WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO taking photos of Lisa McPherson autopsy.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Brian J. Anderson ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 08/14/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, Det.

J.

Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO * being the Commanding Officer for the Office of Special Affairs during Lisa.'s stay at the Ft.-Harriso'n'Ho't6I * never meeting Lisa McPherson.

* receiving verbal reports on McPherson every 3 to 4 days from Kellerhals.

* convening a meeting the night Lisa McPherson died.

* calling Los Angles the night of Lisa McPherson death.

* being aware that McPherson was at the Ft. Harrison Hotel for isolation and auditing.

* the fact Alain Kartuzinski was in charge of Lisa's case.

* the fact ' that D r. Janis Johnson was in charge of Lisa's medical condition.

* shredding reports written by caretakers after Marcus Quirino summarized the reports.

* acknowledging that Lisa was in the COS care when she died.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 87 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5.

1996 WITNESS NAME: Attila Madyas Toth ADRESS: City of Dunedin EMPLOYER:* BUSINESS TX:

DATE OF INTERVIEW: 08/14/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, Det.

J. Carrasquillo LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Kevin Darkin WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being a night security guard during Lisa's stay at the Ft. Harrison Hotel. sometimes supervising Sam Ghiora who was assigned to Lisa's watch. instructing Ghiora to write reports on anything unusual during his watch. receiving three reportsfrom Ghiora.--,-.-* security being pulled from Lisa's watch about 4 to 5 days prior to December 5,199.5.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 88 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Glen Stilo ADDRESS: Unknown EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 07/14/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Morris Weinberg WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being custodian of records for the Church of Scientology.

coming to Clearwater on 1/15/96 with Attorney Abelson to investigate what happened to Lisa McPherson.

conducting a search for-the:missing records Ubpoenaedbythe~State;

Attorney's Office.

the fact that the caretaker reports in the custody of the State Aftorney's Office were located, in seven pre-clear folders of Lisa McPherson, in Los Angeles.

not being allowed to look inside of a Clear folder since he is only a level 4.

the fact that all seven of Lisa McPherson's pre-clear folders were in the Church of Scientology's Office of Special Affairs in Los Angeles.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 89 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 96-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Janet Merle Herring ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 08/25/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 9 contacting the registration desk the day after Lisa's arrival and informing them that Lisa was not to be disturbed.

* viewing Lisa's PC f6ld6rlfie 'nghf6f L-i's-6- and trying to determine . what happened to Lisa.

0 observing caretaker reports in Lisa's PC folder on December 5, 1995.

0 arranging isolation for the staff that took care of Lisa immediately after Lisa's death.

0 conversing with Janis Johnson on December 5, 1995, sometime between 3:45pm and 4:00pm, Johnson looked concerned, distraught, worried, a bit white, and had a strange look on her face.

0 Johnson making the following statements on December 5,1995 at 3:45pm i. "I'm worried about Lisa".

2. `She's doing worse".

3. "She's not doing well".

4. "I'm going to take her to the Hospital".

5. "Lisa had gotten dehydrated and was losing water".

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summaq Page 90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Debra Jean Cook ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 08/25/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the Captain of the Flag Land Base, Ft. Harrison Hotel. first meeting Lisa when Lisa moved here from Texas, via Lisa's employer.

awarding Lisa her clear-Certificate. Kartuzinski being in charge of Lisa's watch. investigating Lisa's death, which led to new organizational changes.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 91 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Susanne Reich ADDRESS: Unknown EMPLOYER: Unknown BUSINESS TX:

DATE OF INTERVIEW: 9/25/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO first meeting Lisa in, early. 1994 as a result of an interview Reich administered to Lisa.

beinq ca~etaker for Us-a" for. one night from 11/16166'-* 0/95.

handing Lisa a note from Alain Kartuzinski.

having two conversations with Kartuzinski regarding Lisa.

gathering Lisa's PC folders and delivering them to Kartuzinski's office.

administering a "reality factor" to Lisa prior to Lisa achieving Clear.

asking Dr. Janis Johnson about Lisa's condition, and not receiving any information.

security guards being posted outside of Lisa's room.

having a session (auditing) regarding Lisa in January or February of 1997.

Kartuzinski intensively working on Lisa's PC folder on Sunday, November 19, 1995 in the early morning.

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1995 WITNESS NAME: Jeanne Decuypere, D.C.

ADDRESS: 1250 Rogers St. (business address) Clearwater, Fl.

EMPLOYER: Self employed BUSINESS TX:

DATE OF INTERVIEW. 9/30/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Rochelle Reback WITNESSES CAN TESTIFY TO meeting Lisa in 1994 as a patient of hers.

treating Lisa for a chiropractic problem.

Lisa telling her she had some kind of potassium or salt deficiency.

Lisa seeming unhappy,in -JanUary-of 1995 and ~havidg boyfdehd*p-fbbI6ms.-.

Lisa talking about suicide in April of 1995.

0 receiving a call from Bennetta Slaughter asking her to respond to Morton Plant Hospital the night of Lisa's accident.

responding to the Hospital at the request of Bennetta Slaughter.

signing Lisa's release form from Morton Plant Hospital.

escorting Lisa to her room (174) at the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

attending Lisa's funeral in Texas with Brenda Hubert and Bennetta Slaughter.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 93 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT - FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Judy Fontana ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 9/17/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESSES CAN TESTIFY TO 0 never meeting Lisa McPherson.

0 first hearing about Lisa in November of 1995.

0 Paul Kellerhals giving her information about Lisa's stay sometime around Thanksgiving, He-said,, Lisa-is'not eating or.sleeping - well'!

0 ordering Kellerhals to get a medical doctor for Lisa.

0 finding an accordion file on Lisa in either March, April, or May of 1996, and turning the File over to Attorney Bob Johnson.

CL EARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 94 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Gloria Cruz ADDRESS: 300 ButtonWood Lane.

Largo, Fl.

EMPLOYER: AMC Publishing BUSINESS TX: (813) 446-1100 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 9/18/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW. Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: John F. Lauro WITNESSES CAN TESTIFY TO 0 first meeting Lisa in Dallas Texas, where they were both employed by AMC Publishing.

0 moving in with Lisa asa roommate-in Sept1995.

- -- never having contact With Lisa after Lisa got back from Orlando.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 95 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.' CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 96-29168 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Tana Marafino ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33656 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: .(813) 461-1282 DATE bF INTERVIEW. 9/10/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESSES CAN TESTIFY TO 0 having the title of Super Cargo during Lisa's stay. 0 not having any contact with Lisa during her stay at the Ft. Harrison Hotel. 0 never meeting Lisa McPherson.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY - Summary Page 96 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 6.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Humberto Fontana ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church Of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 9/10/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: Robert Polli WITNESSES CAN TESTIFY TO 0 being the Director of Social Reform during Lisa McPherson's stay.

0 never meeting Lisa.::' 0 going to Morton Plant Hospital because he was concerned about Lisa being -placed in a psychiatric wing., conversing with a doctor and psychiatric nurse about his concerns with the psychiatric wing.

observing Lisa leaving the hospital with other Scientologists.

seeing some of Lisa's folders in his office around May or June of 1996.

(r-IN, CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01 -0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5, 1995 WITNESS NAME: Annie Mora ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Ave.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientol6gy BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 8/21/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Attorney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 never meeting Lisa McPherson.

0 going to Morton Plant Hospital the day of Lisa's accident to find out what was going on.

-Kartuzinski-cond'cting a'conversation -while at.M6rt'onlPlan't!,--.":-*.---.-.:--::r- - observing u Hospital via the telephone, to determine that Lisa should be taken to the Ft.

Harrison Hotel from the hospital.

0 knowing Lisa was going to the Ft. Harrison Hotel for rest and relaxation.

0 gathering Lisa's PC folders.

* checking with Kartuzinski every couple of days to see how Lisa was doing.

e checking with the Security Chief on Lisa's condition.

* being in Lisa's room for about five minutes with Valerie Demange about a week into Lisa's stay.

* observing Lisa kicking the big window near the exit door.

* observing all of Lisa's folders on the floor of her (Mora's) office some months after Lisa's death.

knowing that all of Lisa's file folders were shipped to the Office of Special Affairs International in Los Angeles.

being told by Janis Johnson that the bruises on Lisa's body were not healing as they should have been.

being told by Janis Johnson that Lisa got worse on the way to HCA and died.

being a part of the church's investigation into the death of Lisa McPherson and writing a report.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Gabriella Sanchez ADDRESS: 551 N. Saturn Av.

Clearwater, Fl. 33756 EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: .(813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 8/21/91 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Afforney's Office ATTORNEY: John Lauro WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO first meeting Lisa as a parishioner at the Church in Clearwater.

assembling the 24 hour schedule for the caretakers around November 24, 1995.

attending a meetingwith Oliver"Jaillot and Alain'-Kartu- zin'ski in- order to' work out scheduling problems concerning Lisa's watch (around 11/25/95).

0 Kartuzinski requesting daily reports from Lisa's caretakers.

0 creating handwritten schedules for the caretakers.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 99 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5.

1995 WITNESS NAME: Lynn Robert Famy ADDRESS: 6155 Fountain Ave.

Los Angeles, California EMPLOYER: Church of Scientology BUSINESS TX: (813) 461-1282 DATE OF INTERVIEW. 10/14/97 INTERVIEWER: ASA M. McGarry, Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: Pinellas County State Aftorney's Office ATTORNEY: Laura Vaughan, Delmar Lee Fugate WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO being the Legal Affairs Director for the Church of Scientology International.

being informed of Lisa McPherson's death on December 5, 1995.

receiving a briefing from - B rian"Anderson 1 regarding lh6` McPherson -situatio"n.

searching Lisa's folders for caretakers' eeports, and providing same to attorneys.

no longer allowing trained physicians to work in the Medical Liaison Office.

Johnson being responsible for Lisa's physical care and Alain Kartuzinski for her spiritual care, but "Alain was ultimately the one calling the shots".

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 100 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: George Podgorny, MD ADDRESS: 2115 Georgia Ave.

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27104 EMPLOYER: Salem Emergency Medicine BUSINESS TX: (919) 727-1161 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 11/11/97 INTERVIEWER: Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 2115 Georgia Ave.

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27104 ATTORNEY: N/A WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 Lisa looking for attention at Morto'n Plant Hospital.

0 Lisa suffering a degree of mental instability at the accident scene.

0 Lisa being deceased when she arrived at HCA Hospital -in New Port Richey, thus resuscitation was not possible.

0 pulmonary embolisms basically suffocating a person internally.

9 the formation of Lisa's emboli being a result of her being bed-ridden and dehydrated.

- it being important to keep a person in an upright position to prevent the formation of a pulmonary embolism.

0 the marks on Lisa's wrists resulting from some type of a struggle.

0 the possibility existing that some findings and bruises are related to inadequate nutrition something that is necessary to keep up the tissue integrity and the ability of the blood to clot.

0 knowing that any physician trained in the United States, Canada or Puerto Rico since the end of World War Two should not have failed to notice that this woman needed serious medical attention.

* being familiar with the training required to be taught to physicians since he is on the faculty of two Medical schools and has recently served on the Accreditation Council on Graduate Medical Education.

an anesthesiologist being eminently trained in physiology, cardiology and lung disease ... every problem that in his opinion Lisa was suffering from.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY.

Summary Page 101 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY * Lisa being in "trouble medically" 5 days after she arrived at the Ft.

Harrison' Hotel.

0 people who are being held captive reaching a point where they give up.

0 a person needing 2,000 cubic centimeters of water per day to sustain good health.

0 knowing that anyone in Lisa's condition would have lost approximately 2 pounds per day.

0 there being no evidence whatsoever, clinically or otherwise, indicating Lisa had an infection.

0 the whole issue of looking for infection as disingenuous.

0 the fact that Lisa should have been transported to the nearest emergency room.

0 hisexpert opinion being that Lisa's care was incomprehensible.

a the people taking care of Lisa being grossly negligent.

0 the treatment given to Lisa being criminal.

Lisa's condition not being a sudden medical event but was the result of many days of inadequate care.

- the fact that the' medicines being given to Lisa lowered her blood pressure and reduced her mental capacity., 0 the fact that it is not appropriate for a physician to prescribe Valium and Chloral Hydrate to a patient without first seeing that person.

0 the fact that Valium, Chloral Hydrate, and Valerian Root when given together have a synergistic effect.

Lisa needing intensive care 5 to 7 days into the watch.

* the fact that being dehydrated and bed-ridden is a more common cause of pulmonary embolisms than a bruise on an extremity.

0 the fact that if a pulmonary embolism is found in a timely fashion the patient has a good chance of survival.

0 the marks on Lisa's hands being essentially bruises.

0 the fact that in his opinion the bruises on Lisa's wrists are more than likely the result of her either being tied or held down.

* seeing no indication of a staph infection.

0 Janis Johnson acting in the role of a physician.

0 Lisa not being capable on 12-05-95, of telling anyone that she wanted to go to see Dr. Minkoff at HCA.

* Lisa not being capable of thinking for the last 4 or more days of her life.

9 the fact that magnesium is given as a sedative or given to people who are having seizures.

0 Lisa being agitated on December 1, 1995, and probably not being fully conscious.

0 the fact that dehydration and low blood pressure cause cool extremities.

0 the fact that a dentist is acting inappropriately by treating anyone for anything other than a dental problem.

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Lisa McPherson Public Record 111-120
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Lisa probably having all ready passed her emboli,'and her brain having relaxed her sphincter muscle, during her bath on 12/5/95.

Greenwood's assessment and description of Lisa's breathing being consistent with her dying.

it being scientifically impossible to say that Lisa simply became sick and died during her last day at the Ft. Harrison Hotel.

being without water for 5 days would not have caused the severe dehydration that he saw. His opinion is that the time without sufficient liquids was much greater then 5 days.

the fact that in his opinion the people taking care of Lisa were aware of what the outcome would be.

the fact that he never examined or treated Lisa, but only reviewed her medical records and based his opinions on the review of those records only.

L CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 103 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CONCLUSION:

This case has been active since the suspicious death of Lisa McPherson on December 5,1995. The ensuing investigation has revealed that Lisa McPherson, who was a member of the Church of Scientology, died while in the care and custody of church personnel. At the request of the Clearwater Police Department, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement assisted in the investigation into the death of Lisa McPherson.

Since December 6,1995, investigators have gathered information from approximately 90 individuals. In addition there have been approximately 80 subpoenas issued for evidentiary documents as well as various individual's testimony. There are 82 exhibits tagged as evidence and secured at the Clearwater Police Department.

Documents that are known to have existed and would shed light on the last days of Lisa McPherson's life have not been available or produced by the Scientology Organization. Certain documents turned over by church attorneys to the state attorney as a result of subpoena have been altered and are not true copies as testified under oath.

The sequence of events began when Lisa was involved in a minor traffic accident in the City of Clearwater on Nov.18, 1995. As a result of this accident and Lisa's request for help, paramedics transported her to Morton Plant Hospital. Lisa was examined at the hospital's emergency room and found to have no.physical injuries as a result of her accident.

She did,.h.owev.er, exhibit a behavioral dysfu riction that. led to an evaluation by a psychiatric nurse. ]n -spite. of ' this nurse's opinion and that of the attending - physician, members of the Church of Scientology encouraged Lisa to sign out of the hospital against medical advice. These church members assured hospital staff that they would give Lisa the care she needed. Lisa was subsequently transported to the Ft.

Harrison Hotel by her Senior Case Supervisor Alain Kartuzinski.

Sworn testimony has shown that Lisa entered the Church of Scientology's Fort Harrison Hotel on Nov.1 8, 1995, and was committed to an isolation watch. At that time . she was healthy and physically fit. Testimony further supports that Lisa's physical and mental well-being deteriorated drastically until her death on Dec.5, 1995.

Evidence, both in the form of caretaker records and testimony, indicates that in the first 8-10 days.of her watch she repeatedly requested to leave her isolation room and was denied by church members. Further evidence indicates that on several occasions Lisa attempted to leave but was physically restrained and kept in the room by church personnel.

Testimony reveals that Lisa was'not capable of making decisions for he' rself during the watch, and that her mental condition made it imperative that the necessary decisions be made for her concerning medical needs.

The investigation has revealed that Lisa McPherson was discharged from Morton Plant Hospital against medical advice. She was then placed in a motel room at the' Church of Scientology Headquarters and held against her wishes by various Scientology Organization personnel and security officers. She,entered the Ft. Harrison CLEARWATER POLICE FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 104 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY Hotel a vibrant, healthy, well nourished young female. She weighed in the vicinity of 150 pounds and was 5'8" tall. She was 36 years old and was known to keep herself in good physical condition. Lisa became totally dependent on her caretakers as they were the only individuals allowed to have contact with her. No relatives were contacted, she could not leave and had no access to a telephone. Church policy prohibited verbal communication with Lisa. She depended on Scientology staff for food and water since she was completely isolated. Caretakers' notes that h ave been provided to the investigators as a result of a State Attorney's subpoena indicate that guards were posted outside of Lisa's room. These guards were used on several occasions to "guide" Lisa back into her room. Testimony by security personnel indicate that Lisa was not allowed to leave her room without the permission of Alain Kartuzinski. It appears the witnesses were coached in their responses to investigators. The term "guided" was used by all personnel when they were asked regarding Lisa attempts to leave the room.

Her physical and mental well being became the responsibility of three Scientology Staff members. The investigation reveals that as result of their positions of authority and, in two cases medical training, certain members of the Scientology Organization appear to have been grossly negligent in their care of Lisa McPherson. That lack of caring, coupled with a lack of appropriate medical care, resulted in her premature death at the age of 36.

Alain Kartuzinski had the final authority on all decisions made regarding Lisa's watch. Correspondence that was prepared daily concerning Lisa was ordered to be routed directly to him and was delivered by a staff communications runner. Questions written by Mr.

Kartuzinski were sent to the security chief when Mr. Kartuzinski was not rece ivi n g rep o rts o n Lisa's: co n d itio n Th ose~ q uestion'h a i res *&&, co m p leted a n d:*:-": returned to Mr. Kartuzinski. His permission was needed to administer a prescription drug. Janis Johnson requested permission from Mr. Kartuzinski prior to obtaining medications for Lisa. Sworn testimony supports the fact that in order for Lisa to be released Alain Kartuzinski had to give his permission.

Janis Johnson is a medical doctor specializing in anesthesiology who surrendered her license in Arizona to practice medicine as a result of a drug problem. She held the position of Medical Liaison Officer within the Church and was assigned by Alain Kartuzinski to care for Lisa.

Records and testimony indicate that Dr. Johnson was attending to Lisa daily. She wrote instructions to other women who were attending to Lisa and made daily reports to Alain Kartuzinski. Dr. Johnson made medical evaluations'of Lisa and then requested prescription drugs from Dr. David Minkoff.

Laura Arrunada is a Mexican citizen and Scientology staff member. She graduated from medical s Ichool in Mexico City but never completed her board certification. During Lisa's isolation watch Arrunada was the deputy 'Medical liaison officer and was assigned to the watch. She cared for Lisa the last several days.before her death. Arrunada indicated that Lisa was not eating, drinking or sleeping the last several days of the watch and became very weak.

Dr.- Johnson and Arrunada have medical training. Both have extensive medical knowledge that should have alerted them to act on Lisa's condition and request medical CLEARWATER POLICE'-FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page I D5 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY treatment. It is apparent that both doctors did little more than merely observe as Lisa's health deteriorated during her watch. Caretakers' notes as well as sworn testimony paint a vivid picture as to the level of health care that Lisa received while in the care and custody of these individuals. Dr. Johnson and Arrunada issued orders to staff members to administer an assortment of vitamins, potions, minerals and prescription drugs. Evidence exists that indicates that at least two prescriptions were obtained with the help of Doctor David Minkoff. Dr. Minkoff is a Scientologist and a physician who works in the emergency room at Columbia HCA Hospital in New Port Richey. One prescription was for liquid valium and the other for Chloral Hydrate. These drugs were obtained in an attempt to sedate Lisa.

Sworn testimony demonstrates that as early as 3:45pm to 4:00pm on December 5,1995, Dr. Johnson related to another member of the organization that she was extremely alarmed at Lisa's physical condition. She told this member that Lisa needed to go to the hospital immediately because she was very sick. At 6:00pm Arrunada notified Dr.

Johnson that Lisa needed medical treatment. In spite of Dr.. Johnson's own medically educated concerns, and the alarm given by her deputy medical liaison officer, it was not until 8:00pm that Johnson finally made the decision to seek appropriate medical attention for Lisa. Dr.

Johnson enlisted the assistance of Arrunada and Greenwood to transport Lisa to HCA Columbia Hospital. Columbia is located approximately 45 minutes to an hour's drive from the Ft. Harrison Hotel and was staffed by Dr. David Minkoff. Lisa was not taken to Morton Plant Hospital which is only three (3) minutes'drive away. No ambulance or emergency team were called. Dr. Johnson ordered the staff members to carry Lisa from the room and place her in Dr. Johnson's personal vehicle..=- Laura Arrunada:4 and ~ Paul Greenwood -held.. Lisa*' upright for the long ride to New Port Richey. Lisa McPherson arrived at HCA Hospital on December 5, 1995, at 9:25pm, 17 days after the accident weighing only 108 pounds.

Lisa was dead on arrival.

Sworn testimony indicates that'several caretakers were alarmed at the condition of Lisa McPherson. Lisa's steadily deteriorating medical condition caused caretaker Alice VanGrondelle to remark that she felt that Lisa was obviously dehydrated ten days into the watch. The investigation revealed that Dr. Johnson and Arrunada should have recognized, as did Alice VanGrondelle, that Lisa was in trouble. In the opinion of medical experts interviewed in this case, Lisa would be alive today had Janis Johnson, Laura Arrunada, or Alain Kartuzinski sought proper medical attention in a hospital setting. :..

In conclusion, the investigation demonstrates through written documents and sworn testimony that the Church of Scientology became the sole caregiver to Lisa. The three responsible staff members, Alain Kartuzinski, Dr. Johnson, and Arrunada, through their actions and their failure to act, are culpable and responsible for her death.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 106 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY Recommendations:

As a result of this in-depth investigation, it is the conclusion of the assigned investigators that the death of Lisa McPherson could and should have been prevented. Representatives of the Church of Scientology guaranteed hospital officials that twenty-four hour care would be provided to Lisa. Documented . testimony and observations have confirmed that during her subsequent stay at the Ft. Harrison Hotel, Lisa McPherson exhibited mental incapacitation that restricted her ability to perform the normal activities of daily living. The Church of Scientology and the assigned staff assumed responsibility for the care of Lisa as a " disabled adult".

Sworn testimony and documents indicate that the Church of Scientology assigned Mr. Alain Kartuzinski as the senior case supervisor, Doctor Janis Johnson the medical liaison officer, and Laura Arrunada the deputy medical liaison officer as primary caregivers. These three caregivers caused the death of Lisa McPherson by culpable negligence in a manner proscribed by FSS 825.102(3)(a)l. They caused this death by their failure to provide the victim with care, proper supervision, and services necessary to maintain her physical and mental health. Lisa's needs included but were not limited to, food, nutrition, medicine, and medical services, which are items a prudent person would consider essential for the well-being of a disabled adult.

This failure to care was so pro hounced as to constitute culpable negligence. Further, the actions of Johnson and Arrunada also appear to have been the practice of medicine, neither Johnson or Arrunada are licensed to practice medicine in Florida. As a result, probable cause exists to support the following charges being filed.

Alain Kartuzinski: Aggravated Manslaughter FSS 782.07(2) Janis Johnson: Aggravated Manslaughter FSS 782.07(2) Practice of Medicine w/o . FSS 458.327(a) License Laura Arrunada: . Aggravated Manslaughter FSS 782.0.7(2) Practice of Medicine w/o FSS 458.327(a) License CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EVIDENCE SHEET ATEMN MBER -DESCRIFTIOW,~--~,- ':",~ZATE COMMENTS,J Caretakers Reports 11/18/95 Med. Off. Manager report, 2pages 2 11/18/95 Med. Off. Manager report, 2 pages 3 11/19/95 Co-worker Craig Burton, 2 pages 4 11/19/95 Co-worker Brenda Hubert, 5 pages 5 11/20/95 Med. Off. Manager report, 1 page 6 Caretaker Susanne Reich, 2 pages .7 11/20/95 Alain Kartuzinski and Arthur Baxter, 1 pg.

8 11/21/95 Caretaker Valerie Demange, 2 pages 9 11/22/95 Security Arthur Baxter, 2 pages 10 11/26/95 Valerie Demange, 2 pages 11 11/26/95 Caretaker Rita Boykin, 2 pages 12 11/29/95 Valerie Demange, 1 page 13 11/29/95 Caretaker Emma Schamerhorn, 1 page 14 11/29/95 Valerie Demange, 1 page 15 11/29/95 Rita Boykin, 1 page 16 11/30/95 Rita Boykin, 2 pages 17 12/01/95. Rita Boykin, 1 18 12/01/95 Dr Janis Johnson, 2 pages 19 12/02/95 Rita Boykin', 4 p a* g--bs Medical Records Subpoena Request for 1996 20 03/12/96 40-84-6015 Medical records from Morton Plant " been provided hospital, have 21 03/12/96 40-84-6016 Medical records from Columbia hospital, have been provided Subpoena Request for 1997 22 02/04/97 40-86-598 Copies of correspondence between Lisa and COS 1-file provided 23 02/04/97 Lisa Between 40-86-599 Copies of account folder for 1/1/95 - 4/30/96. 1 - file provided 24 02/04/97 40-86-600 Copy of Lisa's folder of Office of Special Affairs. COS stated privilege documents 25 02/04/97 40-86-601 Lisa's personal folder, 1/1/954/30/96.

-COS, no personal file, Lisa was public.

C TEM N U M ~,,-.--,-"- ~,.COMMENTS~i:DES MUM' CPD#.~: 1',-~.DATE,` 26 02/04/97 40-86-602 Requesting names of staff during Lisa's Nov. 95 stay. COS provided assorted caretakers reports from various days.

27 02/11/97 SA interview of Paul Greenwood 28 02/13/97 40-86-603 Names of cabana's guest.

Incomplete response from COS 29 02/21/97 40-86-610 Copy of Arrunada's report. COS stated I privileged document.

30 02/21/97 40-86-611 Copy of Greenwood's report. COS stated privileged document.

31 02/21/97 40-86-612 Copy of Dr. Janis Johnson report, COS stated privileged document.

32 03/20/97 40-86-615 Prescription for Lisa written by Dr.

Minkoff, provided by Eckerd drugs.

33 03113/97 40-86-616 List of employees at AMC Publishing from 1/95 - 1/96, provided by AMC 34 40-86-620 Bank records for acc. 1265544249 35 03/18/97 40-86-621 Lisa's bank records for First Union Bank, provided 36 03/18/97 SA interview of Rita Boykin 37 03/18/97 QopyofLisa's.credithis~tory.,,,p~ovided, 38 03/20/97 SA interview of Valerie Demange 39 03/20/97 40-86-623 Lisa's personal file from AMC Publishing, very thin file provided by AMC 40 03/20/97 40-86-624 Second request for subpoena 40-86-603, names of cabana guest, provided by COS 41 03/25/97 SA interview of Alfonso Barcenas.

42 03/00/97 Request for Mark Fabyanic's personal file, provided by Sunstar Ambulance.

-43 04/03/97 SA interview of Sylvia Delavaga 44. 04/03/97 SA interview of Laura Arrunada 45 04/03/97 SA interview of Patricia Stracener 46 .04/10/97 SA interview of Joan Stevens.

47 04/10197 SA interview of Barbro Wennberg.

48 04/10/97 SA interview of Heather Petzold.

49 04/22/97 SA interview of Dr. David Minkoff.

50 04/22/97 40-86-629 Lisa's Barnett Bank records, Provided 51 04/24/97 SA interview of Emma Schamerhom.

52 04/24/97 40-86-631 Prescription for David Houghton, provided by Eckerd drugs.

53 04/24/97 SA interview of Dr. David Houghton.

54 04/30/97 SA interview of Paul Kellerhals.

CR T IP, ION':~7,~~,-4 -;,--.-ATEMNUMBER--`,i'I' :~~-'COIVIIVIENTSTDES SA interview of Sam Ghiora.

55 05/06/97 56 05/06/97 SA interview of Andrea Sprecher.

- SA interview of Arthur Baxter.

57 05/06/97 SA interview of Haydee Cezare.

58 05/07/97 SA interview of Alice Van Grondelle.

59 05/20/97 60 05/20/97 SA interview of Leslie Woodcraft.

61 05/20/97 SA interview of Anna Pendizini.

62 05/23/97 Report of Marcus Quirino provided by the Cos.

63 05/23/97 Affidavit of Robert Abbott provided by the Cos.

4 05/27/97 SA interview of Lacy Spencer.

65 05/27/97 SA interview of Marcus Quirino.

66 06/02/97 40-86-647 Ethics file for Lisa, some of the file was provided 67 06/02/97 40-86-649 Reports of Lisa's stay at the Ft. Harrison in summer of 95, some reports provided.

68 07/15/97 40-86-657 Lisa's medical records from Dr. John Heilman, no records available.

.69 07/15/97 40-86-658 Lisa's medical records from Dr. G.

Stephen Igel. Records provided 7/30/97.

70 07/15/97 40-86-659 Lisa's medical records from Dr. Phyllis k.

-provided on 7/30/9 Murphy. Records 7~ 71 07/17/97 40-86-661 Caretaker reports for Johnson, Greenwood, and Arrunada.

72 07/17/97 40-86-662 11 reports from Lisa's caretakers.

73 07/24/97 SA interview of Glen Stilo 74 08/14/97 SA interview of Brian Anderson 75 08/14/97 SA interview of Attila Toth 76 08/19/97 SA interview of Goldsberry-Weber 77 08/21/97 SA interview of Annie Mora 78 08/21/97 SA interview of Gabriella Sanchez 79 08/25/97 SA interview of Debbie Cook 80 08/25/97 SA interview of Janet Herring 81 09/10/97 SA interview of Humberto Fontana 82 09/10/97 SA interview of Tana Marafino 83 09/12/97 40-86-675 Requesting medical records on Lisa McPherson from Dr. Decuypere 84 09/17/97 SA interview of Judy Fontana 85 09/18/97 SA interview of Gloda Cruz 86 09/25/97 SA interview of Susanne Reich 87 09/30/97 40-86-676 SA interview of Dr. Jeannie Decuypere 88 10/02/97 SA interview of Brenda Hubert DESCRIPTION 89 10/14/97 SA interview of Lynn Famy Photographs 90 09/00/95 6 Photos of Lisa while alive.

91 Post 3 Photos of damage to Lisa's Jeep, right Accident after accident.

92 12/06/95 36 Photos of Lisa's autopsy.

Medical Examiner Evidence 93 12/06/95 95-29158 Autopsy report on Lisa McPherson total of 10 pages.

94 12/06/95 Property at PCSO Assorted clothing and mini-cassefte interviews Lisa's Personal property provided by Fannie McPherson 95 1996 Leather day planner for 1996.

96 1991 Tax form 1040 amended for 1991.

97 1991 W-2 for 1991.

98 1992 Tax form 1040 for 1992.

99 1993 Tax form 1040 for 1993.

100 1993 W-2 for 1993.

101 1994 Tax form 1040 for 1994.

102 1994 W-2 for 1994 Expert Witness Reports 103 11/11/97 Curriculum Vitae , cassette, and transcript of Dr. Podgorny's interview.

104 1997 Tapes Assorted taped interviews of AMC employees and friends of Lisa.

105 5/21/98 40-84-6716 Arizona Medical Examiners File on Janis Kaye Fitzgerald (Johnson) 106 10/27198 Subpoenas Employees contract/agreements: Laura Arrunada to Leslie Woodcraft.

107 10/27/98 Lisa's PC folders subsequent to 11/18/95 108 10/27/98 Alain Kartuzinski writings 11/1/95-1/1/96 109 10/27/98 Medical history /treatment for 1995 110 10/27/98 Room occupied by Lisa at 210 S. Ft.

Harrison.

GLOSSARY WATCH The time that a person is on duty at their post. Watch, as it relates to this document, refers to the time spent by Lisa McPherson at the Ft. Harrison Hotel (November 18, 1995 to December 5, 1995).

.2. ISOLATION WATCH Isolating a member., usually without verbal communication until they are coherent enough to accept information, usually a prelude to Introspection Rundown.

3. INTROSPECTION RUNDOWN Procedure used on people who have had psychiatric problems.

Allegedly to get the person back into P/T (present time).

4. CLEAR Level achieved by overcoming the "bank" reactive mind, and "engrams" or mental images of the past. Supposedly makes you capable of handling your own environment.

S. PRE-CLEAR Member who has been processed into the organization but not yet achieved level of Clear.

6. FLAG LAND BASE Scientology name for the Clearwater operations of the Sea Org.

7. LEVEL 4 Usually an Auditor level of achievement at the step just below Clear.

S. PRE-CLEAR FOLDERS Folder where all auditing and processing information on a member is kept. Includes notes by auditor, examiner, and case supervisor.

The file is updated continually and maintained after the death of a member.

9. PC FOLDERS Abbreviation for Pre-Clear Folder ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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11. Cos Abbreviation for Church of Scientology 12. REALITY FACTOR Basically "reality" means whatever two members are in agreement with. The "R" Factor means an explanation of some thing 13. TYPE 3 Part of the PTS (Potential Trouble Source) levels. Could mean a varying degree of problems, from a member being upset or not in agreement with some thing, to a "psychotic break".

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15. CASE SUPERVISOR Abbr. C/S, the person who is overall in charge of a case. He is the person in a Scientology organization who gives instructions regarding particular cases. ... .

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IN DEATH INVESTIGATION FDLE CL01-0002 I CLEARWATER P.D. 95-291168 SA A.L. STROPE I SGT. WAYNE ANDREWS' NOVEMBERIS TEXAS CONVERSATIONS NOVEMBER 18, 1740 HRS NOVEMBER 18, `1750 HRS ACCIDENT ACCIDENTWITH S. Fr. HARRISON AVEJ LISA MCPHERSON BELLEVIEW BLVD.

NOVEMBER15-117 ORLANDO SEMINAR MCPHERSON EMTS M SAYS "I TOOK MY EYE OFF THE OBJECr BONNIE PORTOLANO/ "WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE7 MARK FABYANIC TAKES OFF CLOTHES WANDERS DOWN THE STREET NOVEMBER 18, APPROX. NOVEMBER 18, 2040 HRS NOVEMBER IS - DECEMBER 5 MORTON PLANT HOS RELEASED AMA TO CHURCH PERSONNEL CONFINEMENT AT TAKEN IN KARTUIZINSIVS CAR 210 S.

FT. HARRISON TO 210 S. FT. HARRISON.

DR.LOVETT IDENTIFIED CAREGIVERS DR. JEAN DEC YPERE DR. JANIS JOHNSON JUDY GOLDSBER~UR'Y-WEBER EMMASCHAMERHORN ROOM SECURITY GUARDS NJOE 'ALAIN KARTUIZINSKI LAURAARRUNADA ALFONSO BARCENAS/ HUMBERTO FONTANA VALERIE DEMANGE SAM GHIORA EMMASCHAM SUSANNE SCHNURRENBERGER ANNIE M RIT, BOYKIN NOVEMBER20 NOVEM8ER23 NOVEMBER24 NOVEMBER 24 - 25 PRESCRIPTION FOR LISA JOAN STEVENS SAID NOVEMBER 23 PAUL KELLERHALS TERESA HAYDE CEZARE FOR VALIUM WRITTEN IN LISA DRESSED TO LEAVE SAMGHIORASAID SAW LISA NAKED SCREAMING SAIDLISATRIEDTO DR. HOUGHTON'S NAME THE ROOM, AND WAS STOPPED HE"GUIDED"LISA AND YELLING FROM LEAVE HER ROOM BY DR. MINKOFF BY SAM GHIORA AND JOAN STEVENS BACK INTO THE ROOM WITHIN DARKROOM SAYING"LET ME GET OUr AND"GUIDED* BACK INTO THE ROOM GHIORA ALSO SAI W /LLISA BECAME VIOLENT LISA LIFTED HER KNEE M ~BE AND HAD TO BE AS IF TO STRIKE HIM IN HIS PHYSIC L T I ESTRAINED A ~Y REVS RANTED GROINANDTRIEDTO DOATWO FINGERED EYE GOUGE, WHICH WAS DEFLE FDLE DLG NOVEMM 26-29 NOVEMBER 26-27 NOVEMBER26 ANNIE MORA AND NOVEMBER21il PETZOLD STATES LISA NOVEMBER29 ARRUNADASEES VALERIE DEMANGE SYLVIA DE ArGA N WRITTEN SAID'USAWASVIOLENT W L S OWMG CONTINUED TO BE PRESCRIPno USA DRINKING HER AND TRYING TO BREAK SAID USA I A VIOLENTANDWAS BY DR. MINKOFF FOR URINE OUT THE BIG WINDOW HER STRENGTH WALKING IN ROOM USA - CHLOROL HYDRATE NEAR THE EXIT DOOFr SCREAMING DECEMBER 1. 1100 MRS DECEMBER 2 DECEMBER 2 DECEMBER2 DECBABER 2 JANIS JOHNSON GIVES SECURITY GUARDS HEATHER PETZOLD SYLVIA DELAVEGA ARRUNADA STATES USA USA INJECTION PULLED FROM USAS INFORMS KARTUZINSKI USAWAS LYING ON OF M9CL2 ROOM "WHAT WE ARE THE FLOOR.

URINATING, TRIED TO LEAVE THE ROOM DOING FOR USA IS DEFECATING AND VIA THE WINDOW, ALSO USA IS NOTWORKING* UNABLETOWALK LOOKING A BIT MORE SKINNY NO LONGER DECEMBER 3 DECEMBER 2 TO 4 DECEMBER2 DECEMBER 6 11646 MRS DECEMBER611600HR3.

SYLVIA DELAVEGA' PETZOLD STATES I I-SA SYLVIA DELAVEGA DR. JANIS JOHNSON TO I S PETZOLD STATES USA WAS TOLD BY DR. JOHNSON WAS LESS ACTIVE - STATES USA WAS JANET HERRING 'USA Is COULD NOT WALK TO THAT USA WAS DOING COULD NOT WALK LYING ON FLOOR VERY SICK MUST GET HER BATH TUB AND HAD TO BETTER OR STAND - CRAWLING BREATHING HEAVILY, To HOSPITAL IMMEDIATELY* BE CARRIED - HAD To IN THE ROOM EYES FIXED. TOO WEAK BE HELD UP IN THE TUB TO GET UP AND BREATHING HEAVILY DECEMBER 6 11800 HP.S. DEcEmmsil*wHR3 DECE . MBER 612000 MRS DECEMBER 5 12130 MRS DECEMBER 6, 19"

ARRUNADA CALLS JOHNSON EXAMINES PAUL GREENWOOD MCA - NEW PORT RICHEY C+UEF ASST STATE DR. JANIS JOHNSON MCPHERSON IS CALLED D.OA ATTORNEY BRUCE BARTLETT CONTACTEDANDADVISED C DUTY I INVESTIGATE DR IN INKOFF CLEARWATER PD TO DR.

DAVID NILES U WARNED PALE. WEAK, S B.

SCHMID (:~ZN U WAS DEFECATED IN TUB, GR OOD/ F~NG RELAXED ANUS NSON I ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some pages omitted because they did not OCR well.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1276/95 ,FLORIDA:OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPORT-SUPPLEMENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. X SUPP.

FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 ,~,NAME(S): Lisa McPherson ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12/6/95 _`IDENT: AOA/Death Investigation VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 Pierce Street PAGE 2 OF 13 INVESTIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudler ARRESTS: None IMPOUND INVENTORY: None PROPERTY CONTROL NO. 95-29158 PREV CASE STATUS: Active NARRATIVE: On 12/6/95, at approximately 0745 hours, I was contacted by Sgt.

Teunis via radio and requested that I meet with him prior to arriving at CPD Headquarters.

Upon meeting with Sgt. Teunis, he advised me that a female had been transported from Clearwater to the H.C.A..Hospital at 5637 Marine Parkway in New Port Richey, where she was pronounced dead on arrival. At the request of the Pasco County Sheriff's Office or the New Port Richey Police Department, CPD was asked to check the victim's last known address of 901 N. Osceola 1-0"'41--nue, Apt. 205, Clearwater, Florida, in an attempt to ascertain additional W 4 --,formation concerning this case. Sgt. Teunis advised that CPD patrol officers had responded to that address but found no residence. He requested that, upon my arrival at CPD Headquarters, I conduct a background investigation into this incident and contact the New Port Richey Police Department to ascertain whether or not they needed assistance from CPD in their investigation.

Upon my arrival at CPD Headquarters, I contacted the New Port Richey Police Department and requested that they fax me a copy of their report concerning this death investigation. I subsequently received their report (#95-23846) that was written by Ofc. Jim Perez. The report was titled Assist Agency/Death and indicated that Barbara Schmid, a nurse at the H.C.A.

Hospital in New Port Richey, reported that the victim, Lisa McPherson, W/F, address of 901 N. Osceola Avenue, Apt. 205, Clearwater, Florida, was brought to the H.C.A. Hospital located at 5637 Marine Parkway in New Port Richey by two subjects in a mini van. Ofc. Perez's report indicated that, upon being taken into the Emergency Room, the victim was pronounced dead at 2151 hours the attending physician, Dr. Minkoff --The' preliminary cause of death was Aiieved to be meningitis or a severe staph infection. Ofc. Perez did not 'Report.95-29158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A '/Death Investigation OA, December 6, 1995 examine the victim's body but arranged for the victim to be transported to the Medical Examiner's office for an autopsy. His report also indicated that the victim was possibly associated with the Church Of Scientology, and.that possibly one of the people in the van that transported her to the hospital was a female named Janice Johnson, phone 461-4975. Sgt. Lamont of the New Port Richey Police Department had spoken with Lt. Goatcher and Sgt. Moore of CPD and the report indicated that CPD would conduct an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the victim's death.

After reviewing the New Port Richey Police Department report regarding this incident, it appeared that Ofc. Perez had not conducted a complete investigation due to the fact that the victim's body was not examined at the hospital. It also appeared that Ofc. Perez was under the impression that CPD would be handling this investigation. Therefore, I contacted the Pinellas ,o"*-~,pnty Medical Examiner's Office and requested that they postpone performing autopsy on the victim until photographs could be taken. I contacted the PCSO Forensic Science Unit and requested that a Forensic Specialist respond to the Medical Examiner's Office to take photographs of the victim and collect her clothing as evidence in the event any criminal activity was discovered during this investigation.

Also on this date, I contacted Inv. Scott Cary at the Medical Examiner's office and discussed the facts and circumstances of this investigation with him. He advised the following. Dr. Minkoff was the attending physician at the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey. The victim arrived at the hospital at approximately 2139 hours and was pronounced dead at the hospital at 2151 hours after attempts to resuscitate her were unsuccessful. It was Dr. Minkoff's belief that the cause of death was sepsis or meningitis. Dr. Janice Johnson, an out-ofstate physician familiar with Dr. Minkoff, had brought the victim to the hospital and called Dr. Minkoff prior to transporting her there. The victim was employed at AMC Publishing, 620 Lakeview Road, Clearwater, Florida, and her immediate supervisor was Bertha -laughter. The victim's ne~xt_of~ki-n-was-believed to be her mother, who lives Texas. According to Inv. Cary, Dr. Davis would be performing the autopsy on the victim later this date.

'Report.95-29158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 4 I subsequently checked computer records for any information concerning the victim, Lisa McPherson. I found a Lisa McPherson, W/F, DOB 2/10/59, listed in Report #94-16515 as the victim of a Burglary at 2481 N.E.

Coachman Road, Apt. 901, Clearwater, Florida. She was also listed in Report #9413944 as the victim of a Burglary at 2481 N.E. Coachman Road, Apt. 901, Clearwater, Florida.

After reviewing CPD records concerning the victim, Sgt. Teunis and I went to the Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office to discuss the preliminary results of the autopsy with Dr. Wood and Dr. Davis. The preliminary results indicated that the victim died as a result of a pulmonary embolism. Areas of bruising were noted on both of her hips, her buttocks, and her extremities. She also had marks on her hands that Dr. Wood felt resembled insect bites. However, the exact cause of these marks remains e"",known at this time. Prior to the autopsy being performed, Forensic ecialist John Grubb took photographs of the victim.

During the course of this investigation, Sgt. Teunis assigned Det.

Howard and Det. C. Carrasquillo to conduct further investigation at the victim's place of employment, AMC Publishing at 620 Lakeview Road in Clearwater, and to interview Janice Johnson, the alleged doctor who transported the victim to the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey. Det.

Howard and Det. C. Carrasquillo's investigation revealed that, in addition to Janice Johnson, associated with this case at the time of transport were:

Laura Arrunada, W/F, DOB 11/4/58, home address of 16432 U.S. 19 North, Room 260, Clearwater, Florida Paul Greenwood, W/M, DOB 9/9/39, address of 551 N. Saturn Avenue, Apt.

A-13, Clearwater, Florida Alain Kartuzinski, W/M, DOB 7/4/51, home address of 16432 U.S. 1.9 -Northi Room 231-1- Clearwater, Florida 'Report,95-29158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AOA/Death Investigation December G, 1995 cll~e 5 Sgt. Teunis, Det. Tom Miller, and I subsequently went to the Scientology Building at 210 S. Ft. Harrison Avenue in an attempt to interview the above individuals concerning their involvement in this investigation. We went to the Security Office and met with a white male identified as Brian Anderson, the Vice President of the office Of Special Affairs.for the Church ofScientology. We advised him that we were conducting an investigation into the death of Lisa McPherson and requested that he locate the above named individuals so they could be interviewed concerning this incident. We were escorted to a dining room inside the Scientology Building while Brian Anderson attempted to locate these individuals. After waiting approximately 15-20 minutes, Brian Anderson returned to our location and advised that the individuals were being located. He indicated that the interviews could be conducted at the Church of Scientology Clearwater Building at 500 Cleveland location. Sgt. Teunis, Det.

i.,~O~-eet and suggested that we walk to that -ler, and I drove to 500 Cleveland Street to await the arrival of Brian Anderson and the individuals to be interviewed. Upon his arrival, Brian Anderson escorted us to a large conference room and requested that we wait there until he coordinated the location of the individuals. After approximately 35-40 minutes, Brian Anderson returned to our location with Laura Arrunado, Paul Greenwood, and Alain Kartuzinski.

We first interviewed Laura Arrunado, who is of Mexican descent. Sergio Mora, an interpreter for the Church of Scientology, was present during this interview. The interview began at approximately 1530 hours this date and I introduced myself, Sgt. Teunis, and Det. Miller to her. I explained to her that the New Port Richey Police Department had initiated an Assist other Agency report concerning the death of Lisa McPherson and requested that CPD assist with this investigation. She was told that we would be conducting interviews with individuals who had contact with the victim prior to her death, and that it was our understanding that she was one of the individuals who transported her to the H.C.A. Hospital on 12/5/95. At this time, Brian (?4~ erson entered the~room-and introduced--Attorney-Robert E.

Johnson,--10G S. ley Drive, Suite 1450, Tampa, Florida 33602, phone 223-5321. Brian Report~95-29158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 6 Anderson advised that Robert Johnson was an Attorney for the Church of Scientology and was requesting to be present during the interviews.

Robert Johnson was briefed concerning our investigation and the interview with Laura Arrunado continued.

During the interview with Laura Arrunado, she gave the following statement. She has a medical degree from Mexico and is on staff at the Church of Scientology as an assistant to Janice Johnson, the Medical Liaison Officer. She has known the victim, Lisa McPherson, for approximately two weeks. Approximately four days prior to the victim's death, Janice Johnson requested that Laura check on the victim's welfare because reports had been forwarded through the staff at the Church of Scientology that she was not .eating very much food. When Laura checked on the victim, she was complaining of throat pain and looked much thinner than she had during the previous two The victim gave no explanation as to why she had not been eating.

ira checked on the victim approximately two days prior to her death and she again complained of throat pain. The victim had been taking multi-vitamins and Vitamin C for whatever unknown ailment she was suffering from. However, Laura did not specify any symptoms of the victim's illness other than throat pain. On the evening of 12/5/95, at approximately 1800 hours, Laura went to the victim's room, #174 at the Church of Scientology Building at 210 S. Ft. Harrison Avenue, and found her in bed. At that time, the victim was not talking. She made a motion that she was still having throat pain and Laura gave her a glass of water. The victim was alone in the room and did not speak or move around much. Her skin was pale, she had defecated in her undergarments, and it appeared that her medical condition had worsened. Therefore, Laura contacted Janice Johnson and requested that she come to the victim's room to evaluate her condition. Upon Janice Johnson's arrival, she looked at the victim and stated that she looked bad. Janice Johnson then called Dr. Minkoff and arrangements were made to have him examine the victim., Paul Greenwood was also called to the victim's room and Janice Johnson made angements to~transp6rt the victim to the H.C.A.

Hospital'-in* New Port hey in Janice Johnson's personal van. Laura put some clothes on the ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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We next interviewed Paul Greenwood. Atto * rney Robert Johnson was alsopresent for this interview. Paul Greenwood gave the following statement.

Paul had never met the victim, Lisa McPherson, prior to the evening of 12/5/95. H.J. Sprecker, a staff member at the Church of Scientology, came to m on that date around 7:55 p..m.. and asked.. if - he. would- assistz.in (r~,'nsporting the victim to-the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey because .1.

'Rer)ort-95-29158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AO-A'/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 8 Laura Arrunado and Janice Johnson needed help in loading her into a vehicle.

Paul then went to 210 S. Ft. Harrison, which is referred to as The Cabanas on the Osceola Avenue side of the Church of Scientology Building. Upon his arrival there, he went to the victim's room and found Laura Arrunado present.

The victim's room had two beds in it and the victim was lying in one of the beds clad in a pair of pants and a shirt. The room was orderly and nothing appeared out of the ordinary. There was a kleenex box and a bottle of water in the room but he did not see any type of medication. The room had a "sick odor" and it was apparent that the victim had been ill. She was very pale and had a very bad skin color. It appeared that she was breathing very heavily and he felt "her physical condition was not very well". He and Laura picked the victim up from her bed and he noticed that her body and head were very limp. He and Laura carried the victim to Janice Johnson's van, which parked on the Osceola Avenue side of The Cabanas. Janice Johnson drove van while enroute to the hospital. Paul did not know why they selected to transport the victim to a hospital in New Port Richey. He is not very familiar with the area but estimated that the trip to the hospital took approximately forty minutes. The victim was initially breathing very heavily but her breathing and pulse had slowed down while enroute to the hospital.

About halfway to the hospital, it was very difficult ' to detect whether or not the-victim was breathing at all. Paul checked her pulse and determined that it had decreased since leaving The Cabanas. -Upon their arrival at the hospital, it was unknown if the victim was still breathing. Her eyes were wide open and fixed and it was difficult to tell if she had any pulse or respiration. ' Three hospital employees, two males and one female, removed the victim from the-van and took her into the Emergency Room in a wheelchair.

When asked if he detected any type of injury.or unusual marks on the victim's body, he stated that he noticed she had marks on her hands that looked as though she had skinned her hands and they were healing. He could not give any further description of these marks. He had been told by Janice Johnson -hat the victim possibly had meningitis but it was-only- a rumor-as far as -he - ~w. When aske . d if he had any medical background,.Paul stated that he is aretired chiropractor.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ .95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 e 9 We next interviewed Alain Kartuzinski. Attorney Robert Johnson was also present during this interview. Alain Kartuzinski gave the following statement. He is on the staff at the Church of Scientology as a Case Supervisor and he was the supervisor of the victim's counselor. However, Alain could not provide me with thename of the counselor. He has been acquainted with the victim for approxima tely two years but did not know her very well. "As far as he knew, the victim was a resident at 210 S.

Ft. Harrison. On 12/5/95, Alain's assistant, Lacy, told him that the victim was ill and she had been complaining of a sore throat. Upon being informed of this, he contacted the Church of Scientology's medical liaison officer, Janice Johnson, around 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m. on 12/5/95. Janice Johnson subsequently came to his office at the Church of Scientology and made a phone call to Dr. Minkoff, who is also a parishioner with the Church of ientology. He believed that Dr. Minkoff was the victim's personal (7ysician but could not...be sure. Janice Johnson had made arrangements . for Dr. Minkoff to see the victim that evening and the victim was-subsequently transported to the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey.

Alain did not see the victim that evening and did not go to her room.

Therefore, he could not give a statement as to her medical condition or any observations he made concerning this incident. He later heard that Janice Johnson had transported the victim to the hospital and she died while enroute. When asked why the victim was transported to a hospital in New Port Richey instead of a local hospital, the only explanation Alain could give was that he believed Dr. Minkoff knew the victim and was her personal physician.

Once the interviews were concluded with the above listed individuals, we asked Brian Anderson if it would be possible to examine Room #174 at 210 N. Osceola Avenue. Sgt. Teunis, Det. Miller, and I subsequently went to Room #174 and was met there a short time later by Brian Anderson and Attorney Robert Johnson. Upon entering Room #174, there did not appear to be any sign of recent occupancy.. The king size bed, which was the only bed in the room, is made and there was.a-dresser type piece of furniture with no personal C"'longings on- it. A table in the room had a basket of bananas and apples ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Rex)ort .95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 e 10 that appeared to be fresh and not disturbed. There did not appear to be any clothing, any medications, or other indications that the room had previously been occupied. When asked what happened to the victim's personal effects, Brian Anderson indicated that they had apparently been collected and the room cleaned. He indicated that he would check into that situation and advise us where the victim's property had be en taken.

On 12/7/95, at approximately 1300.hours, I went to the victim's place of employment, AMC Publishing at 620 Lakeview Road, in an attempt to locate any co-workers that might be willing to act as identifiers of the victim's body at the Medical Examiner's office. I met with the owner of AMC Publishing, Jeff Schaffner, W/M, DOB 11/6/57, home address of 1600 Gulf Boulevard, Apt. 716, Clearwater, Florida, home phone 593-2397, business phone 446-1100. He stated that he has known the victim since 1980 and she has been employed at C Publishing since 3/1/90. He agreed to act as an identifier of the ((') '-tim's body at the Medical Examiner's Office.

I next spoke to Brian Rakestraw, W/M, DOB 7/30/56, home address of 2492 Coachwhip Terrace, Clearwater, Florida, phone 726-9441. He is the manager at AMC Publishing and was the victim's immediate supervisor. He stated that he has known the victim approximately one year and would be willing to act as an identifier of her body at the Medical Examiner's Office.

I subsequently contacted the Medical Examiner's Office and scheduled both Jeff Schaffner and Brian Rakestra*w to appear at 1430'hours this date to make the identification of the body.

On 12/8/95, at approximately 0900 hours, I conducted a phone interview with-the victim's mother, Fannie McPherson, address of 2324 Jonesboro Avenue, Dallas, Texas 75228, phone.(214)3276761. I explained to her that CPD was assisting the,New Port Richey Police Department in a background investigation into the death of her daughter, Lisa. She'stated that she has been in contact with Lisa's supervisor, Benetta Slaughter, as she was apparently a close friend-of Lisa's and was assisting the family with funeral --rangements. She'stated that Lisa had basically-been healthy but-used a lot ((07vitamins in the past. The only medical problem that she knew Lisa.had was ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Renort .95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation Detember 6, 1995 ge 11 a back problem for which she had been treated by a chiropractor. The last time she had spoken to Lisa was approximately two weeks ago, at which time she appeared to be fine and did not mention any health problems. She was not aware of any condition Lisa might have that would cause her to bruise easily.

She could not provide any unusual circumstances or situations in Lisa's life other then the fact that Lisa quite often ate sushi, which is commonly known to sometimes cause illness due to bacteria and other toxins in raw fish.

She stated that she had spoken to Dr. Minkoff concerning Lisa's death, but that he was not Lisa's personal physician and had only examined her and pronounced her dead upon her admission to the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey. I provided Fannie McPherson with the address and phone number for the Probate Court Records Department at the Pinellas County Circuit Court. I also instructed her on the procedures for the disposition of personal property thout administration or any personal effects belonging to Lisa and the ndling of Lisa's estate.

On 12/8/95, at approximately 1900 hours, I went to the H.C.A. Hospital at 5637 Marine Parkway in New Port Richey and interviewed Barbara Schmid, home address of 8110 Tarsier Avenue, New Port Richey, Florida, home phone (813)376-6074, who was the nurse on duty the night Lisa McPherson was admitted to the Emergency Room. She gave the following statement. Initially, a call was received from the front reception area of the Emergency Room requesting that a nurse respond there to assist with a patient. The triage nurse on duty, Rick Pemberton, went to the reception area and brought the white female patient (victim) into the Emergency Room and a code for emergency was immediately called. Upon examination of the victim, Barbara noticed that her pupils were fixed and dilated, she had no pulse or vital signs, and she was pale and cool to the touch. The victim was clad in jeans, sweater, undergarments, sneakers, and socks, which all appeare d to be clean. The victim had dark brown hair and did not appear to be injured. There did not appear to be any lividity present on her legs, arms, or other portions of rbody; The victim wa-s- -exatined by -Dr. Minkof f . Barbara stated that the scribed as "strawberry abrasion type -ctim appeared to have what she de' ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Report'.95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 e 12 marks' on her hands and he identified these marks as septic emboli. The victim was immediately intubated.and two I.V. lines were started. Part of the treatment was to perform CPR and drug therapy but they were both unsuccessful. The victim was subsequently pronounced dead at the hospital by Dr. Minkoff. It was Barbara's opinion that, upon the victim's arrival'in the Emergency Room, the victim had been dead at least 15-20 minutes. Barbara contacted the Medical Examiner's Office and advised them of the circumstances surrounding the victim's death. She requested that the removal service respond to the hospital to remove the body. The victim's body was left with all evidence of medical treatment in place and was not tampered with prior to the arrival of the removal service personnel. To Barbara's knowledge, Ofc. Perez of the New Port Richey Police Department did not conduct a physical examination of the victim's body.

At the conclusion of the interview with Barbara Schmid, I conducted an (_~erview with the triage nurse, Rick Pemberton, W/M, DOB 9/21/59, home address of 10400 Florida Wren Avenue, Brooksville, Florida 34614. He stated the following. On the evening of Tuesday, 12/5/95, he was the triage nurse at the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey. He responded to a call for assistance at the reception desk of the hospital, at which time he and Patient Care Technician Willie Burdette and R.N. Theresa Klimaszewski went to the Emergency Room entrance. He went outside to a newer model white van and observed a white female seated in the rear of the vehicle that appeared to be quite ill. Once he opened the van door and looked inside, he saw that the female's eyes were fixed and dilated.

Her skin had a gray cast to it and she. appeared to be deceased. 'The female was removed from the van and brought into the Emergency Room in a wheelchair. She appeared to be emaciated and had no vital signs. Rick was wearing gloves at that time and it was unknown what the female's body temperature was. She was very pale-and it looked like she had been dead for a while. She had small pin-point dot type hemorrhages on her'arms and leg that Rick described as petechial hemorrhages. Dr.

-. nkoff, the attending Emergency..Room physician, stated that these petechial ilorrhages were possibly related to a sepsis type'condition the victim may ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Report'.95-29158 AO;~/Death Investigation De~:eniber 6, 1995 rge 13 have been suffering from. The possibility of the female having meningitis was discussed among Emergency Room pers I onnel but the female's neck appeared to be supple and meningitis causes the neck muscles to become very rigid.

She was clad in jeans, a sweater, and shoes, and did not appear to be the victim of any type of injury. Only portions of the female's clothes were removed or cut away to facilitate medical treatment and he did not notice any bruises or other marks on her body with the exception of the marks on her hands, arms, and legs that appeared to be petechial hemorrhages.

At the conclusion of the interview with Rick Pemberton, I was advised that Dr. Minkoff, the attending physician, would be on duty on Wednesday, 12/13/95. Therefore, I will attempt to contact him on that date and interview him concerning his involvement in this investigation.

Investigation continues. Case status remains Active.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ E 12/8/95 OFC. REPORTING: Det. Ron Sudler/elq ID NO: 608 DAT CASE STATUS: Active EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE 1. Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. Offense, Secondary offense. w/o Pros Adult Juv 3. Death of offender S.

Prosecution Decl --2. Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to Cooperate 6.

Juv./No Custody unfounded (721C. REVIEWINd:W DATE:- SA INFO:

FLORIDA-OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPOR ENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. SUPP. X FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 NAME(S): LISA McPHERSON JAN 2 4 1996 ORIG. DATE REPORTED:

12/06/95 -,'IDENT: AOA-DEATH INVESTIGATION VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 PIERCE STREET PAGE 1 OF 3 INVESTIGATOR: DET CAROLYN CARRASQUILLO ARRESTS: NONE IMPOUND INVENTORY: NONE PROPERTY CONTROL NO. NONE PREV CASE STATUS: ACTIVE NARRATIVE:

On Thursday, 7 December, I met with Bennetta Slaughter, who was victim Lisa McPherson's employer. Present with us were Det Mike Schaffner and Robert Johnson who is Ms Slaughter's Attorney.

According to Ms Slaughter, Lisa had started working for this Company in Dallas in 1990. However, they had known each other and worked together for several years prior. Sh e and Slaughter had gone to'a Life & Health Expo in Orlando, after which Lisa went on leave "for a rest". That leave started ut 1 1/2 to 2 weeks ago. Slaughter said she did not see or talk to Lisa ..ter returning from Orlando and found out about her death on Tuesday, 5 December. She said she spoke with Dr Minkoff who told her Lisa had died from an infection that took over her body and killed her in a number of hours.

Slaughter said she knew of no physical or emotional problems Lisa may have had. She did know Lisa had been married twice and that one of her husbands had'died in a car wreck. She also said she was planning to fly to Dallas as soon as possible to be with Lisa's Mother (Fannie McPherson, 2143276761) and help with funeral arrangements. Further, Slaughter said she had spoken with Lisa's roommate, Gloria Cruz, and told her what had happened.

Prior to me leaving the office, Mr Johnson gave me a copy of Lisa's personnel file. I gave this to Det Sudler.for inclusion in the case file.

On Friday, 8 December, I went to Belleair Greens Rental Apartments, 901 Osceola Rd No, Belleairi, Apartment 205, in an attempt to make contact with Gloria Cruz who was Lisa McPherson's roommate. No one answered my knock on the door so I left a business card asking her to call me.

I received a return call from Robert Johnson, Attorney, who said Gloria (~~Iz is Benetta and David Slaughter's Foster Daughter and that she would be willing to speak with us reference Lisa. Arrangements were made for her to ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASE-#95-29158 AOA-DEATH INVESTIGATION PAGE 2 OF 3 meet me at Clearwater PD for this interview. During the interview, notes were taken by Det Sudler. See his supplement for details of that meeting.

On Monday, 11 December, I spoke with Kurt Paine who was Lisa McPherson's ex-boyfriend. Arrangements had been made for me to meet with him that same afternoon at 3:30 PM at his residence. However, he called back and said he was feeling ill and would need to change the appointment.

Therefore, arrangements were made to meet with him at his residence on Tuesday, 12 De cember, at 3 PM.

Det Sudler and I arrived at Paine's residence shortly after 3PM. See Det Sudler's supplement for details of this interview.

OFC. REPORTING: DET CAROLYN CARRASOUILLO ID NO: 615 DATE:

12/13/95 CASE STATUS: ACTIVE, EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE 1. Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. Offense, Secondary Offense. w/o Pros Adult Juv 3. Death of offender 5.

Prosecution Decl 2. Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to Cooperate 6.

Juv./No Custody 3. Unfounded OFC. REVIEWINGAV DATE: SA INFO:

PERSON(S) REPORT Agency Name ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some pages omitted because they did not OCR well.

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: CW95-29158 : 10:16 Incident Type : ASSIST OTH AGY Time Arrived : 10:16 Grid/Zone : 403 Time Completed : 13:59 Source:DISPATCHED Occurred From : 12/06/9,5 10:16 Reporting Area : CLEARWATER To : 12/06/95 10:16 Ist LOc/Occurred :10850 ULMERTON RD LARGO j4648 Business Area :MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE 1st Dispatched To;ioeSo ULMERTON RD LARGO 34648 Sb * umgect 0, a I (COMPLAINANT) Address :CLEARWATER POLICE DEPT : 644 PIERCE ST CLEARWATER 34616 Residence Status:NOT APPLICABLE Residence Type .:NOT APPLICABLE Business Phone. :813-462-6262 Race :NOT APPLICABLE Sex :NOT APPLICABLE Contact info. :OFC SUDLER Subject 2 (OTHER) Name :MCPHER$ON, LISA Address Phone :2481 NE COACHMAN RD APT-901 CLEARW :813-797-2221 ATER.34625 'r"*~Ience Status: RENT/LEASE I ence Type :CITY L)a,--'of Birth :02/10/59 Age on 12/06/95 :36 lRace :WHITE 'Sex, :FEMALE Contact Info. :DECEASED SUBJECT Incident Analysis ~eport status )nit Responding .:442A Issigned Squad :CSSA ~'eporting Officer :GRUBS, JOHN' D FS-SPEC,53296 RMS Specialist :JOHNSON, KRISTI A ARMS-SPEC 53715 RMS Entry:Date :12/19/95 RMS Entry Time :08:41 eviewed By :BRONSON$ BARBARA*G ARMS-SPEC 53299 -.)Proved By :MILGES, MARIE E FS-SUPV S2607 Ise Status :CLOS PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE Incident/offense Report Report Date 12-06-95 Report Number: CW95-29158 See my Forensic Science supplement for details.

T N FE L- L- C) U P4 -r "r !5 H FE FR X F= F=!E5 (D F= F= X F-=' ACISS INCIDENT/OFFENSE SUPPLEMENT REPORT plement Date: 12/06/95 Report Number : CW95-29158/1 ginal Report: 12/06/95 Type of Report: 'INCIDENT ft ALPHA - LATE Incident Type : ASSIST OTH AGY Time Dispatched: 10:16 Grid/Zone : 403 Time Arrived : 10:16 Occurred From : 12/o6/95 10:16 Time Completed : 13:59 -Source:DISPATCHED. To : 12/06/95 10:16 Reporting Area :'CLEARWATER Ist Loc/Occurred :10850 ULMERTON RD LARGO 34648 Business Area :MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE 1st Dispatched To:10850 ULMERTON RD LARGO 34648 ype eport T Supplement Type :Crime Scene Section Brief Description :AOA DEATH INVESTIGATION esponse Information Time Call Received :10:16 Time Arrived :10:32 Time Completed :13:59 Location of Service :MEO Weather Upon Arrival:N/A Work Status :Complete Call Received By :CRT Investigator :SUDLER, R. J.,OFCR CWPD (CW0929) Investigator Status :Not at Scene lotograph Information Photographs Taken :40 Exterior :NO Interior :NO General Area :NO Point of Entry :NO Point of Exit :NO Shoe Prints :NO Foot Prints :NO Tire Tracks :NO Tool Marks :NO Victim Injuries :NO Weapons :NO Victim and Property :NO Vehicle(s) :NO VIN/SER Numbers :NO Recovered Property" :NO Latents :NO Other Photographs :GENERAL AUTOPSY PHOTOGRAPHS'OF DECEASED Other Photographs :SUBJECT Number of Cameras :1 FIRST Camera Type :35 mm Lens Type :35-70 mm Film Type :Color ,ASA Setting' :200 .~07 1.2/19/95 14:20 1P30 -r)r :!F> H X F= F=:! 0 F= F= X C~: FEE F> X P4 E: L_ L_ A:!F> C: 0 U Fz F ACISS INCIDENT/OFFENSE SUPPLEMENT REPORT lement Date: 12/06/95 Report Number CW95-29158/1 ent Information cessing Status :Not Necessary Explanation :PHOTOS ONLY Number of Lifts Latent Prints Smudge/Cloth Marks VIN/SER # Lifts Tire/Shoe Prints Elimination Prints :0 Palms Taken :NO Articles Taken :NO eath Investigation Death Prints :Completed Body Release Form :Completed -Report Status Assigned Unit :442A Assigned Squad :CSSA Reporting Officer :GRUBB, JOHN D FS-SPEC (53296) Entered By :JOHNSON, KRISTI A ARMS-SPEC (53715) Date Entered :12/19/95 Time Entered :08:44 Reviewed By :BRONSON, BARBARA G ARMS-SPEC (53299) Approved By :MILGES, MARIE E FS-SUPV (52607) PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE Incident/offense Supplement Report Report Date 12-06-95 Report Number/Supplement: CW95-29158/1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Deceased: Lisa McPherson,,W/F, 02-10-59 Upon arrival at the MEO, I took general photographs of the deceased.

Visible on the body of the deceased were * numerous bruises up and down the front and back of-both legs. The deceased face was blue and blotchy in color. other bruises and notable areas of the deceased were photographed. I also photographed the autopsy and several areas pointed out by Dr. Davis during the autopsy including the area near the brain stem where the fluid appeared-to be clear.

After the autopsy and photographs were complete, I.obtained death prints/Palms of the deceased for identification. At this time I also collected the deceased's clothing which included one multi-colored shirt, one pair of black pants, two white socks, two white shoes " and one gray sweater. These items were entered into PES after the autopsy.

The death prints were-given to AFIS with a copy of the body release form. A copy bf the prints and the body release form were forwarded to Records.

NFA Inv. time: 3.7 hour REPORT-SUPPLEMENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. SUPP. X FL6 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 NAME(S): Lisa McPherson ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12/6/95 'IDENT: AOA/Death Investigation VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 Pierce Street PAGE I OF 6 INVESTIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudler ARRESTS: None IMPOUND INVENTORY: None PROPERTY CONTROL NO. 95-29158 PREV CASE STATUS: Active NARRATIVE: On 12/11/95, at approximately 1430 hours, Det. C. Carrasquillo and I conducted an interview with Lisa McPherson's roommate, Gloria Cruz, W/F, DOB 11/30/72, home address of 901 N. Osceola Avenue, Apt. 205, Belleair, Florida, phone 559-9886. The interview was conducted at CPD Headquarters in one of the Investigations Division interview rooms. Present during the interview was Attorney Robert Johnson. Gloria Cruz is the foster daughter of the victim's supervisor, Benetta Slaughter. During the interview, Gloria gave the following statement. Gloria and the victim, Lisa McPherson, have (0-----,eh roommates for approximately three months at the Osceola Avenue address.

--jwever, she has known the victim for approximately 5-6 years and originally met her through her foster mother, Benetta Slaughter. She was not aware of any medical problems the victim was having. The victim was having problems sleeping at night and would usually take walks or read to relax herself. She was not aware of any personal physician the victim had. The victim frequently took vitamin E, B, Calcium, and a magnesium drink, but she did not have-any medical problems that Gloria was aware of except for a back injury that occurred in Dallas for which she had been treated by a chiropractic office in the past. When asked if the victim bruised easily, Gloria could not be certain but did not recall her bruising often. However, approximately five months ago, the victim bumped into a table and had a bruise on the back of her left leg. The victim was not physically active and would most likely not be involved in any activities that might cause lier to be bruised or injured. To'the best of Gloria's knowledge, the victim did.not consume any alcoholic beverages. The last time Gloria saw the victim was on Wednesday, 11/15/95, when the victim was' leaving for an insurance agent sales convention an unknown hotel in Orla' j~~;d : he irictimls!siu-itbase ndo, Florida. Gloria pac e t ((00-)r her as-she had an arrangement with the victim where she handled the finances and helped her with travel preparations'.and household chores as part of their living agreement. The convention was to be held from Wednesday, - Report 95-29158 AOX/Death Investigation Decembe3~ 6, 1995 e 2 11/15/95, through Saturday, 11/18/95.The victim went to the convention with two other sales representatives but she could not provide any further information regarding their identities. She was aware that the victim was taking two weeks leave of absence from work and would be "handling things"

during this period of leave. On Sunday, 11/19/95, Gloria went to her apartment and saw that the victim had returned-because her suitcase was there and appeared to be halfway unpacked. Gloria's foster mother, Benetta Slaughter, told her that the victim had gone to stay at the Church 'of Scientology Building at 210 S. Ft. Harrison. She did not know of any reason why the victim would be staying at the Church of Scientology and the victim never discussed any change in living arrangements prior to the victim leaving for the sales convention. She does not know the victim's ex-boyfriend Kurt or any other recent boyfriends she might have had. When asked if it appeared victim had packed two weeks worth of clothes or-if there was any evidence had planned to.be out of town for a long period of time, she indicated that she did not notice anything missing or any evidence that the victim had planned to be away from her residence for a couple of weeks. However, she did not look specifically to see if any of the victim's clothes were missing.

The victim had lost a great deal of weight during the past two years after moving to this area from Dallas. She was very particular about her weight and walked a lot for exercise. Her weight pretty much stayed the same and she continually watched her food intake so she would not gain weight.

Gloria was not aware of the victim suffering from anorexia, bulimia, or other eating disorders. The victim appeared to be in good health at the time she left for the sales convention in Orlando.

On 12/12/95, at approximately 1500 hours, myself and Det. C., Carrasquillo conducted an interview with theh victim's exboyfriend, Kurt Paine, W/M, DOB .2/26/49, home address of 1704 N. Osceola Avenue, Clearwater, Florida, home phone 4615595. He is the owner of the Abbott Blackstone Company. The interview was conducted at his residence. He gave the llowing statement.~.:Kurt:-originally-met-the'victim, Lisa McPherson, at the ((_%ch of Scientology at 210 S. Ft. Harrison, when she had just moved to the area from Dallas, Texas, and he had just moved to the area from California. They dated for approximately one year and lived together approximately one ReL)ort .95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 e 3 month betweeii August 1994 and September 1994.They broke up their relationship in May 1995 and it was basically a mutual breakup. The last time he saw her was in October 1995, at which time they casually greeted each other and then went about their business. When asked about the victim's medical background, Kurt stated that he did not know of her being on any type of medication. However, he did indicate that she had a back injury from a accident in Dallas that was being treated by a chiropractor by the name of Dr. Jeannie Dekuyper at 1250 Rogers Street, Suite A, in Clearwater. He did not believe the victim was on any type of pain medication or other prescription medication. She had regular eating habits and he did not notice any unexplained weight loss or gain during the time they were together.

He did not know if she had a personal physician in the area. As far as he knew, she did not do any personal exercise and frequently supplemented her diet by ing-vitamin supplements. When asked what particular brand or type of (r`~amins she took, he stated that he beli . eved she took a packet of approximately six to eight vitamins a day. Her father passed away several years ago but Kurt did not know the cause of his death. The victim sold advertising and worked for Benetta Slaughter, who he believed was also her best friend. She was fond of country/western music and dancing, especially when she lived in Dallas. He did not believe she kept up the hobby while living in Clearwater and was basically inactive in terms of exercise and physical fitness. She was not the type of individual to bruise easily but he had noticed bruises on her legs while they were dating. He did not know what caused the bruises but assumed she got them from bumping into furniture and things of that nature. He did not know if she was dating anyone recently but that it was unlikely.

When asked why he felt it would be unlikely, he indicated that he heard through his friends and associates that she had not been dating anyone.

He did not know if she had any college education but described her as being outgoing, friendly, and intelligent. To the best of his knowledge, she never used drugs and would only consume an occasional s. s of wine. -He -did not recal-1 her ever -consuming. liquor- or.

beer- __ -He felt. . was- the - type of individual that would go to a doctor if she was feeling ill but he never recalled her being sick or seeking medical treatment from a personal physician. He was told about her death by Sergio Mora, the chaplain ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 e 4 at the Church of Scientology, who had known about his past relationship with her.and felt it was appropriate to notify him. When asked-if the victim had any property or assets, he indicated that she owned a red Jeep Cherokee approximately 23 years old and possibly some IRA's or savings accounts in the area. He believed her banking was done through the First Union Bank on S. Ft. Harrison Avenue in Clearwater. He could not be sure about it being First Union Bank but believed it was the same bank her employer, AMC Publishing, uses. When asked if he had knowledge of the victim's roommate, Gloria Cruz, he stated that he had only met her after the victim's death. When asked if there would be any reason why the victim would be staying at the Church of Scientology Building at 210 S Ft. Harrison, he indicated that she may have been there to either attend training classes or undergo auditing, which is a type of counseling. The auditing procedure is usually ,-,-.~itored by a case supervisor and could take days, weeks, or months. He . ) ieved this might have been why she was staying there but indicated that he himself had never stayed at the 210 S. Ft. Harrison address while attending classes or auditing. Part of the pre-requisite to attending these courses is getting a lot of rest and eating a lot of protein, which would probably make it unlikely that the victim was fasting or on any type of diet that would not be conducive to the training and auditing sessions.

On 12/13/95, at approximately 0730 hours, I went to the H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey and conducted an interview with Dr. Minkoff, the attending Emergency Room physician who treated the victim, Lisa McPherson, the night she was brought to the hospital. He gave the following statement. He received a call from a friend of his named Janice Johnson, who was aware that he specialized in infectious diseases. She advised him that she had an adult white female that appeared to be septic and may have meningitis. She said the female was acutely ill, and that she had lost approximately ten pounds within a couple of days, had.severe diarrhea, and was complaining of a sore .throat. She said they would be transporting the female from Clearwater to e H.C.A. Hospital in New Port Richey, which Dr. Minkoff thought was roximately a forty minute drive. He told her that he would see the victim right away upon her arrival at the hospital. when he first saw the victim upon her arrival at the hospital, there was no palpable pulse and no vital ReLoort'95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation Decembei7 6, 1995 e 5 signs. However, the EKG picked up an electronic beep, at which time the victim was immediately intubated and CPR was started. Numerous medications were administered to the victim but she never regained consciousness and was eventually pronounced dead. His initial assessment of the vict im was that she had septic shock and appeared to have meningitis. Petechial hemorrhages were noted on her hands, arms, and legs, which he felt were consistent with meningitis or a..staph type infection. With the exception of the petechial hemorrhages on the victim's skin and some areas of bruising, her skin was in good condition overall. Blood cultures performed on the victim's blood indicated that she had a severe staph infection. He was advised that she had been in a car accident weeks before this incident and-had been treated at mor ton Plant Hospital in Clearwater. He indicated that he has not yet reviewed medical records from Morton Plant Hospital but suspected that she y have sustained a bruise to her leg during the car accident and may have veloped a lowgrade blood clot from that injury. He felt that this probably did not manifest itself with swelling or redness, which is a common sympton in most blood clots. He believes that a staph infection occurred in the blood clot area, which caused it to show up in her blood tests. He also believed that the blood clot traveled to her lungs, resulting in her death. He indicated that he has been discussing the factors listed above with Dr. Davis, the Medical Examiner who performed the autopsy on the victim.

At the conclusion of my.interview with Dr. Minkoff, I contacted Inv.

Scott Cary at the Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office, and requested that he obtain the medical records from Morton'Plant Hospital to research any treatment that the victim may have had recently.

I conducted a records check at CPD Headquarters but did not find the victim listed as being involved in any traffic accidents. An auto track search using the victim's name for any accident reports in Florida was done, with negative results.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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||||| From: Ed <metasyn@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Dr. Podgorny Could Say:
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Ed +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY CPD#: 95-29158 FDLE#: CL-01-0002 DATE OF OFFENSE: November 18,1995 to December 5,1995 WITNESS NAME: George Podgorny, MD ADDRESS: 2115 Georgia Ave.

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27104 EMPLOYER: Salem Emergency Medicine BUSINESS TX: (919) 727-1161 DATE OF INTERVIEW: 11/11/97 INTERVIEWER: Sgt. Andrews, SA Strope LOCATION OF INTERVIEW: 2115 Georgia Ave.

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27104 ATTORNEY: N/A WITNESS CAN TESTIFY TO 0 Lisa looking for attention at Morto'n Plant Hospital.

0 Lisa suffering a degree of mental instability at the accident scene.

0 Lisa being deceased when she arrived at HCA Hospital -in New Port Richey, thus resuscitation was not possible.

0 pulmonary embolisms basically suffocating a person internally.

9 the formation of Lisa's emboli being a result of her being bed-ridden and dehydrated.

- it being important to keep a person in an upright position to prevent the formation of a pulmonary embolism.

0 the marks on Lisa's wrists resulting from some type of a struggle.

0 the possibility existing that some findings and bruises are related to inadequate nutrition something that is necessary to keep up the tissue integrity and the ability of the blood to clot.

0 knowing that any physician trained in the United States, Canada or Puerto Rico since the end of World War Two should not have failed to notice that this woman needed serious medical attention.

* being familiar with the training required to be taught to physicians since he is on the faculty of two Medical schools and has recently served on the Accreditation Council on Graduate Medical Education.

an anesthesiologist being eminently trained in physiology, cardiology and lung disease ... every problem that in his opinion Lisa was suffering from.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY.

Summary Page 101 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -CLEARWATER POLICE DEPARTMENT FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION SUMMARY * Lisa being in "trouble medically" 5 days after she arrived at the Ft.

Harrison' Hotel.

0 people who are being held captive reaching a point where they give up.

0 a person needing 2,000 cubic centimeters of water per day to sustain good health.

0 knowing that anyone in Lisa's condition would have lost approximately 2 pounds per day.

0 there being no evidence whatsoever, clinically or otherwise, indicating Lisa had an infection.

0 the whole issue of looking for infection as disingenuous.

0 the fact that Lisa should have been transported to the nearest emergency room.

0 hisexpert opinion being that Lisa's care was incomprehensible.

a the people taking care of Lisa being grossly negligent.

0 the treatment given to Lisa being criminal.

Lisa's condition not being a sudden medical event but was the result of many days of inadequate care.

- the fact that the' medicines being given to Lisa lowered her blood pressure and reduced her mental capacity., 0 the fact that it is not appropriate for a physician to prescribe Valium and Chloral Hydrate to a patient without first seeing that person.

0 the fact that Valium, Chloral Hydrate, and Valerian Root when given together have a synergistic effect.

Lisa needing intensive care 5 to 7 days into the watch.

* the fact that being dehydrated and bed-ridden is a more common cause of pulmonary embolisms than a bruise on an extremity.

0 the fact that if a pulmonary embolism is found in a timely fashion the patient has a good chance of survival.

0 the marks on Lisa's hands being essentially bruises.

0 the fact that in his opinion the bruises on Lisa's wrists are more than likely the result of her either being tied or held down.

* seeing no indication of a staph infection.

0 Janis Johnson acting in the role of a physician.

0 Lisa not being capable on 12-05-95, of telling anyone that she wanted to go to see Dr. Minkoff at HCA.

* Lisa not being capable of thinking for the last 4 or more days of her life.

9 the fact that magnesium is given as a sedative or given to people who are having seizures.

0 Lisa being agitated on December 1, 1995, and probably not being fully conscious.

0 the fact that dehydration and low blood pressure cause cool extremities.

0 the fact that a dentist is acting inappropriately by treating anyone for anything other than a dental problem.

CLEARWATER POLICE -FDLE PROSECUTION SUMMARY Summary Page 102 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ||||| From: Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>
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you know 492 "She's gonna cause a she's gonna wreck have 493 a wreck". Just because of the stress level that 494 was so high. I,don't think it would be anything 495 that she would want to take her life. Umm 496 she wouldn't intentionally be in danger you 497 know of danger to other people or to herself.

498 But merely because of the high stress level, 499 obviously she wasn't paying attention driving 500 and that's how we got that accident umm that she 501 in. So she couldn't if she got back in her car, we ... we can't say for sure. But knowing how stressed out she was ... how she couldn't think 504 independently she was doing very poor independent 505 thinking and her thought processes were were very 506 scrambled. Umm you know we can assume that her 507 decision making would not may not be safe down the 508 road. Like if if we let her get back in the car and 509 drive home just because she is so upset, I would 510 put it on the scale of when you when you have a 511 ... a motor vehicle accident or near accident where 512 if you have an ejection. Let's just say the.husband 513 is ejected from the vehicle the wife is fine~ the 514' vehicle's fine and the husband dies on the scene.

515 The wife is totally distraught. You're not going to 516 allow that wife to get back in the car and drive to 517 the hospital.or you know if the husband is 518 injured really bad to the hospital. Umm she was under that type of I wasn't gonna let her go we'll put it that-way. If she wasn't going to go 521 voluntarily, she was going to go with a Baker Act 522 because she seemed she appeared to be not able to ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 With Bonnie Portolano '~pril 2, 1996) 523 make a safe decision whether it be driving 524 whether it be doing anything else uh she could 525 cause something else to happen to someone else or 526 herself.

527 Det. Sudler: So, in your opinion she was Baker Act criteria?

528 Portolano: Yes.

529 Det. Sudler: If she hadn't volunteered, you you would've saw to it that she was Baker Acted by one of the 530 531 law officers there?

532 Portolano: That's why we had them wait outside the ambulance 533 until we could decide if she was*gonna go 534 voluntarily.

Det. Sudler: okay. Umm do you recall the name of the umm nurse at Morton Plant' ER that you spoke to?

537 Portolano: You know I don't. Umm that night was the first 538 night I ever transferred a patient to that particular 539 nurse. U.mm and since I had my interview with you 540 the last time, I haven't seen her. So I was gonna 541 tryand find out her.name. So no, I don't I 542 don't know her name. But I would know I would 543 recognize her.

544 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm did she ever elaborate on what she 545 meant by taking the eyes off of the object or 546 Portolano: No.

547 Det. Sudler: That never came up again in conversation?

548 Portolano: No.

549 Det. Sudler: Okay. Did she say anything else about any 550 particular health problems or relationship .551 problems or anything in her life that would've brought about this period of crisis she was going through?

554 Portolano: No, she didn't mention anything like that. And 555 1 don't want to make the taking the eyes-off the ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 erview With Bonni e Portolano ril 2, 1996) 4e 18 556 object was small. It was very big. However, I 557 did not know what to do 558 559 SIDE TWO OF TAPE 560 561 Det. Sudler: Okay. We're gonna continue this tape on side two 562 as side one has ended. Bonnie, I'd like you to 563 just continue your conversation. You were discussing 564 ..umm you know what she had said about taking 565 the eyes off the object and you-know what, if 566 any, relevance or you know information she gave 567 you concerning'that.

Portolano: Right. I was just explaining that umm that was that was something very significant. It seemed to 570 be umm one of the most important things that was 571 stressing her. It was the ob taking her eyes off b7z the object and that she had been doing bad things in 573 her mind. Umm and it-she did mention it over 574 and over and over again although I did not know how 575 to re-direct towards that because of my lack of 576 knowledge in the Scientology the Church of 577 Scientology. So it had I been educated in that, 578 1 could've you know delved further further 579 into it' But umm due to that.' due to my lack 580 of knowledge, I I didn't get more information 581- out of that.

582 Det. Sudler: Okay. Did you umm ... note any ... you know ... any 583 presence of alcohol or drugs you know any odor 584 of alcohol on her or any indication that she had been 'under the influence of any ... you know..

controlled substances.

587 Portolano: We're very aware of our patients when we come 588 across them of and the odor of alcohol mannerisms ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 *,terview With Bonnie Portolano pril 2, 1996) .4ge 19 589 that they may display due to alcohol or drugs. And 590 she had none of those characteristics at all at all.

591 This just seemed to be someone that was very stressed 592 umm not stressed and on drugs not stressed and on 593 alcohol just stressed.

594 Det. Sudler: Did you specifically ask her ask her if she was 595 on anything?

596 Portolano: Umm my report would show me if she had any 597 prescription medications that she was taking. I 59b don't have that in front of me right now but umm 599 at the time I was not concerned with umm you 600 know have you taken more I would've pursued that line of questioning. Oh ... let's say a person was on Diazipan or ... you know ... something like that...

603 1 would go into that and see "Are you taking it as 604 your doctor prescribed?" But umm I I found no 605 need to question that way. So I have to say that 606 uh she probably didn't have those types of 607 medications that she was on. And and I'm not sure 608 of the history. I don't have my report in front of 609 me.

610 Det. Sudler: Okay. Do you remember what she was wearing that 611 night her clothing?

Portolano: It was loose-fitting pants and what umm and a 612 613 cotton like slipover shirt I believe just 614 something really comfortable. Ummlooked like 615 she could've just had lunch with a friend kind of 616 thing. Umm, other than that,'all I remember 617 seeing her-is with nothing on and a sheet.

Det. Sudler: Okay.

Portolano: So I only saw her with clothes for a short amount 620 of time.

621 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm were there any other individuals that ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 terview With Bonnie Portolano ril 2, 3.9-96) ge 20 622 you dealt with that night at the two accidents 623 that struck you as having any you know problems 624 ... you know I mean you said that it's frequent 625 for people to be involved in accidents to be 626 emotionally distraught. Were there any other 627 people that presented this to you or was Lisa 628 a special specific type of case?

629 Portolano: Lisa was special. I mean now granted the-the 630 gentleman that she struck you know he had his 631 emotions on a on a totally different level. His 632 was anger you know. But that's totally acceptable.

633 But her her emotions were totally out of line umm ... of the norm. And uh... I had never run into someone like that ... you know ... with ... with those 636 mannerisms with that tone of voice umm and the 637 ... the eye contact.

638 Det. Sudler: With regard to her tone of voice and her-her eye 639 contact umm you mentioned that it was programmed.

640 How how so? Can you describe it?

641 Portolano: Oh like I would say "Lisa, can you move your your 642 car? She would look right at me and go "Yes, I can 643 do that". And she and she would just like 644 everything was so uh formal and umm just "Lisa, 645 did you have your seatbelt on?" "Yes, I'did" or 646 "Lisa, did you hit your head?" "No, I did not".

647 You know it was those just duh duh duh is how 648 she was. And it and it was just kinda odd.

649 Det. Sudler: It wasn't flowing conversation?

650 Portolano: No,,she would give you an answer. It was just a one sentence answer to what you asked. And when you asked the question, that's all you got ... was 653 like one sentence until we got her in the back 654 you know and I had a chance to just really let ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 tl-~...!;terview With Bonnie Portolano (~~ril 2, 1996) ge 21 655 know that it's okay to talk to me. And somehow I 656 got through to herI don't know how. But she would 657 open up and start telling me little things.

658 Det. Sudler: Did she say why she took the clothes off?

659 Portolano: The only reason she stated on why she took her 660 clothes off number one was because she was an OT 661 and she didn't need a body. I didn't know what that 662 meant, so I couldn't address that.

663 Det. Sudler: She didn't need a body?

664 Portolano: She didn't need a body. Umm I kinda thought 665 looney tunes you know right away. I had I 666 don't know what an OT is. I didn't know she was a Scientologist at this time and I was thinking okay...you know-it's gonna be one of these kinds 669 of call because we have them frequently. And so 670 it's like next step you know let's let's find 671 out what else is going on here. But umm now I'm 672 aware. You said OT is something very significant in 673 ... in the Church of Scientology. Umm also, she 674 stated that she took off her clothes because she 675 wanted people to think she was crazy. She says 676 1 wanted people to think I was crazy so then they 677 would help me". So she definitely wanted help.

678 Det. Sudler: Umm I've shown you some photographs here today.

679 Umm but I want to point out to you and I'm 680 going from your recollection of what Lisa looked 681 like that night when she presented to you. Now 682 these are photographs. you know albeit they're from 683 the Medical Examiner's Office at the time of her autopsy. But the Ire dated 12/6/95 and they're basically photographs ... two photographs of Lisa.

686 one was a uh 'scale by Technician John Grubb of 687 the Sheriff's office. And.uh I believe she has ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 .....terview With Bonnie Portolano 2, 1996) ige 22 688 an endotracheal tube 689 Portolano: Yes.

690 Det. Sudler: And some evidence of medical treatment., Can you 691 describe the similarities or differences? I mean 692 ... is this in fact the person who presented themselves 693 as Lisa McPherson to you?

694 Portolano: Yes, this is Lisa McPherson.

695 Det. Sudler: Okay. What are the differences you knowin 696 her appearance and anything that you might note 697 or similarities?

698 Port'olaInitially when I saw this picture umm I noticed 699 her face looked a lot thinner. Ummshe was umm she wasn't heavy but she was very full figured.

Umm ... and her face was fuller than this. This is 702 a lot thinner. Umm she has a bruise on her right 703 cheekbone or something is there. It's some kind of 704 marking. That that was not th ere. I'm looking 705 under her eye. Umm it appears her eyes didn't 706 really have bags underneath them or any you know IV, 'dark circles none of that. Her complexion was 708 totally clear. But this picture presents with like 709 what we call a "raccoon's eye" uh in the medical 710 field,.just bruising underneath the eye due to 711 some type of trauma to either the nose or or the 712 eyebrow bone or possibly the zygomatic the bone 713 right underneath the eye umm where there would 714 be some bruising right there. It's not a great 715 amount of bruising uh but it is.,.,.it's definitely 716 there. Umm 'I'm sorry Det.' Sudler: No, that's fine.;;that1s-,fine-;* So.- -.,;but you-would say that she looks thinner*than she did?

719 Portolano: She does look thinner than she did. And I don't 720 know what this is on her chin. But she didn't ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 (____,,~erview With Bonnie Portolano pril 2, 1996) 'le 23 721 have any of that.

722 Det. Sudler: Okay. So none of these marks. And umm we'll 723 do 724 Portolano: Okay 725 Det. Sudler: Some more photographs here of overall photographs 726 of her legs 727 Portolano: Uh Huh.

728 Det. Sudler: -Her general phys physical stature can you 729 describe that?

730 Portolano: Okay.

731 Det. Sudler: 'When ... as compared to when you saw her before.

732* Portolano: Right.

Det. Sudler: Did she have any of the bruises that were noted on her?

735 Portolano: Yeah. I'm looking right now at the lateral view 736 of her right leg and and her foot. I mean 737 geez, she's got like sores all over her foot.

738 She didn't have any of this. Her skin was totally 739 intact. There were no bruising-nothing to that 740 effect. It totally appears that there's trauma 741 to this lateral aspect of her right leg and down 742 here by umm I I would say her distal lower 743 right leg umm as well. And and her inner 744 thigh on her.left leg oh, and bruises.on her 745 inner uh left leg lower leg as well. None of 746 that none of that.

747 Det. Sudler: None of these were present?

748 Portolano: Also her hip Her hip has bruising on it. And 749 you know granted she was in a motor vehicle accident uh...that was not jarring at all.

You know ... we always look or inspect for seatbelt 752. trauma right there. But she didn't have anything 753 noticed. And this.looks to be-around some of ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 H:.;-terview With Bonnie Portolano ril 2, 1996) e 24 754 these are two different legs. It looks like maybe 755 like a looks like maybe a lip of a strap or 756 something, but 757 Det. Sudler: But she didn't have any of these marks that you're 758 referring to on the ankles 759 Portolano: Right.

760 Det. Sudler: or any of these bruises. Her her skin was 761 basically unremarkable that 762 Portolano: She was a she was very she was a-fair complected 763 woman and umm she had no markings none no 764 bruising umm no dis no noticeable like moles 765 or anything like that nothing.

Det. Sudler: Okay.

Portolano: And here we have like we have uh-lacerations.

768 I'm not even sure what body parts they're 769 Det. Sudler: Okay. Those those would be by the Medical 770 Examiner just to examine the depth of the bruising.

771 Portolano: Okay.

772 Det. Sudler: So those are aft 773 Portolano: Okay.

774 Det. Sudler: After autopsy or during autopsy.

775 Portolano: Yeah.

776 Det. Sudler: But none of the areas of bruising that were noted?

777 Portolano: No.

778 Det Sudler: Okay.

779 Portolano: None of that was there. And you know and. .

780 the best thing was that she took off all of her 781 clothes so that we know that she didn't have any 782 of this before.

Det. Sudler: Alright. And did she complai'n of any injuries toyou?

~tss Portolano: None.

786 Det. Sudler: Okay.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Death Investigation December 6, 1995 terview With Bonnie Portolano bril 2, 1996) r_4e 25 787 Portolano: None.

788 Det. Sudler: Alright. You how long ago or how long after you 789 had taken her to Morton Plant Hospital was it that 790 you found out that she had been released and later 791 died?

792 Portolano: Well, I really can't get I mean I could get all 793 my run reports from that night and see when you 794 know the next time it was the next time I went 795 into Morton Plant and you know my nights can 796 it could've been you know two hours later- it 797 could've been six hours later. So I I'm not 798 Det. Sudler: it was the same night though?

Portolano: That same night.

Det. Sudler: You found out that she was released?

801 Portolano: Right.

802 Det. Sudler: And then when did you find out that she had died?

803 Portolano: I would say it was about a month later.

804 Det. Sudler:- Okay. From talking.to the same R.N.?

805 Portolano:

Yeah, the same R.N. The R.N. came over to me and 806 said "Hey, you remember that Scientologist you 807 brought in?" I said "Yeah". She said "You know 808 what she died" you know "two weeks later".

809 So she told me.

810 Det. Sudler: And she told you what she died of?

81 . 1 Portolano: She told me she died of a pulmonary embolism. I 812 don't know what she died of but that's what I was 813 told.

814 Det. Sudler: Okay. Alright. Did she elaborate on how she had 815 found that.out?

Portolano: No.

Det. Sudler:. okay.

818 Portolano: I thought maybe there was justeither they do 819 patient tracking but you know they usually ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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824 Portolano: No, I do not.

825 Det. Sudler: Okay. .

826 Portolano: But that wouldn't be hard to find out.

827 Det. Sudler: Alright. Umm right now I can't think of anything 828 else.to add Bonnie. Was there anything that I might 829 have neglected to cover or that you can recall?

830 Portolano: I thinkI think we covered it all.

831 Det. Sudler: Okay. Well, if you need to. . . you know.. f ill anything you knowin on this or anything you know should come to you later on go ahead 834 and give me a call and we'll include it in our 835 report.

836 Portolano: Okay.

837 Det. Sudler: Okay. I thank you for coming in. I'm gonna go 838 ahead and conclude the taped interview now. The 839 time is now 1459 hours.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OFC. REPORTING: Det Ron Sudler/ Icr Tn NO: 608 DATE: 4/2/96 CASE STATUS: Active EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE I. Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. offense, Secondary Offense. W/o Pros Adult - Juv 3. Death of Offender 5.

Prosecution Decl Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to Cooperate 6.

Juv. /No Custody nfounded REVIEWING: DATE: SA INFO.

PROPERTY REPORT ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [Some material was skipped because it did not OCR well.] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLORIDA OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPORT-SUPPLEME'NTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. SUPP. x FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 NAME(S): Lisa McPherson ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12/06/95 _'IDENT: AOA/Death Investigation VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 Pierce St PAGE 1 OF 3 INVESTIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudler ARRESTS:

IMPOUND INVENTORY:

PROPERTY CONTROL NO.

PREV CASE STATUS: Active NARRATIVE:

On 04/02/96, 1 conducted a telephone interview with Ron Bell, the Chief Toxicologist at the Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office. The purpose of the interview was to ascertain whether or not there would be any adverse effects to one's health from high doses of vitamins, specifically Bcomplex vitamins, including niacinamide, and whether or not any high levels of vitamins were detected in Lisa McPherson's blood.

Bell stated that most vitamins are water soluble and are readily jsorbed and eliminated from one's body. Even with elevated'dosages of Bcomplex vitamins, the body only uses what it needs and the rest becomes waste product. B-complex vitamins are, for the most part, considered to be nontoxic, however, extremely massive doses may increase toxicity. The consumption of B-complex vitamins would not have a correlation to the degr ee of dehydration present in Lisa McPherson's case.

At this time, no testing of Lisa McPherson's blood for elevated levels of vitamins has been conducted. According to Bell, the remaining blood samples are relatively small. Further testing would require large samples and would be difficult and expensive, because the blood samples would have to be sent out to another laboratory for the necessary assays to be performed. Interpreting the data from the assays would be very difficult, without knowing the amount and time of the last dosage, and determining what, if any, significant changes occurred post mortem.

Also on this date, I met with Sunstar Parame dic, BonniePortolano, at CPD Headquarters, and obtained a taped statement from her. The taped erview will be transcribed and made part of this case file. The original Je will be placed into property as.evidence.

During the taped interview, I showed Lisa McPherson's autopsy photos to Portolano. She said McPherson's face appeared to be thinner, and none of the ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report Number 95-29158 3e 2 of 3 bruises, apparent abrasions, and other skin abnormalities depicted in the photographs were present when Portolano evaluated McPherson on -11/18/95.

On 04/03/96, at 0940 hrs, I spoke with Ms. Jean Grant Andrews, of 403 Mindy Drive, Largo, Fl, 581-0222. Andrews was one of the drivers involved in the first motor vehicle accident that occurred at S. Ft.

Harrison Av. and Belleview Bv. on 11/18/95. During our conversation, Andrews recalled the second motor vehicle accident, and was asked to describe what occurred. A jeep type vehicle, driven by a slender white female in her late twenties, with long blonde hair, struck. the rear of a pick-up truck towing a boat. The female driver exited her vehicle and approached the other driver. They subsequently spoke with police officers and rescue personnel present at the scene. Andrews was too far away to hear any conversations by the female driver, and Andrews did not speak to the female driver at any time.

During the course of the accident investigation, Andrews said the female =Iked past her at the intersection and dropped her purse on the roadway.

female then removed a white colored tank top she was wearing and' also dropped it on the roadway in front of Andrews. While walking westbound on Belleview Bv., the female removed a pair of blue boxer style shorts.

At this point, Andrews approached an officer present at the scene and informed him the female was disrobing. By the time Andrews looked back to where the female had been, she had evidently been escorted into an ambulance parked on Belleview Bv. Andrews said it was obvious this woman was disturbed and needed attention, due to. the above described behavior exhibited. Andrews could not provide any furt her details at this time.

On this date, I contacted attorney Robert Johnson and scheduled interviews with Janis Johnson and Paul Greenwood for 04/09/96, at 0900 hrs, 'at CPD Headquarters.

Investigation continues. Case remains.active.

Report Number 95-29158 e 3 of 3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OFC. REPORTING: Det. Ronald Sudler ID NO:- 608 DATE:

04/03/96 CASE STATUS: -Active EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE 1~ Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim. Offense, Secondary Offense. w/o Pros Adult --Juv 3. Death of Offender 5.

Prosecution Decl 2. Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to Cooperate 6.

Juv./No Custody 3. Unfounded REVIEWING: DATE:- SA INFO:

FLORIDA OFFENSE/INCIDENT REPORT-SUPPLEMENTAL/CONTINUATION ORIG. SUPP. x FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO. 95- 29158 NAME(S): Lisa McPherson ORIG. DATE REPORTED:

12/06/95 IDENT: AOA/Death Investigation VI WILL PROSECUTE: Y N LOCATION: 644 Pierce St. PAGE 1 OF 1 INVESTIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudler ARRESTS:

IMPOUND INVENTORY:

PROPERTY CONTROL NO.

PREV CASE STATUS:. Active NARRATIVE:

On 04/04/96, In response to a subpoena, I received a copy of Lisa McPherson's medical records from Morton Plant Hospital, via the State's Attorney Office. A copy will be placed in the case fi le, the original will be*forwarded to CPD records.

Also on this date, a contact letter,was sent to Victor Chateauveri, one of the driver's involved in the motor vehicle accident at Belleview Bv.

and Ft. Harrison Av.

Investigation continues. Case status remains active.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OFC. REPORTING: Det. Ronald Sudler ID NO: 608 DATE:-04/04/96 CASE STATUS: Active , EXCEPTION TYPE: DATE CLEARED:

CLEARANCE TYPE 1. Extradition Declined 1. Arrest 2. AR of Prim-.

Offense,.Secondary.Offense. w/o Pros Adult Juv 3. Death of Offender 5.

Prosecution Decl Exceptional 4. V/W Refused to.Cooperate 6.

Juv./No Custody Unfounded I-e-C. REVIEWING: DATE: SA INFO:

OF CILEARWATER C I T Y DEPARTMENT OF POLICE 644 PIERCE STREET CLEARWATER. FLORIDA 34616-5495 (813) 462-6330 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ March 29, 1996 Mr. Victor R. Chateauveri 821 7th Street Merritt Island, Florida 32953 RE: Report 95-29158 Dear"Mr. Chateauveri:

This Department is currently conducting a criminal investigation, and it is necessary that I speak with you.

Please contact me between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, at 462-6052.

Your cooperation in this matter will be appreciated.

Sincerely, Det. Ron Sudler Criminal Investigations Division RS/elg ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLO 520300 CLEARWATER P.D. AGENCY REPORT NO.

95-29158 NAME(S): Lisa McPherson ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12/6/95 IDENT: AOA/Death Investigation VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 Pierce Street PAGE I OF 58 INVESTIGATOR: Det. Ron Sudler Today's date is 4/9/96. The time is 9:12 a.m. This is going to be an interview concerning the Lisa McPherson investigation, Report 495-29158.

Th e interview is being conducted with a Mr. Paul Greenwood. Present during the interview is Attorney Robert Johnson, Sgt. Mark Teunis of the Clearwater Police Department, and myself, Det. Ron Sudler.

I Det. Sudler: Mr. Johnson, for the record, I'd like you to state your.

2 name I'm sorry Mr. Greenwood for the record I'd 3 like you to state your name, umm date of birth, and 4 your present address.

5 Greenwood: Okay. My name is Paul Greenwood uh 9/9/39 and 6 503 Cleveland.

Det. Sudler: Okay. Cleveland Street here in Clearwater?

- Greenwood: Uh Huh in Clearwaterright.

9 Det. Sudler: How long have you resided at that address?

10 Greenwood: Well, that's wher.e that's where I work. Uh 11 about a year.

12 Det. Sudler: Okay.

13 Greenwood: Just about a year.

14 Det. Sudler: Alright. Are you a resident of of Clearwater or 15 are you ?

16 Greenwood: Yeah, I am now.

17 Det. Sudler: You are now.. okay..'. alright. Umm...'so you live here 18 full year?

19 Greenwood: Yes.

20 Det. Sudler: You're not ... like many of our snowbirds come down 21 from up north and spend a partial 22 Greenwood:. No, I'm... I'm here.

23. Det. Sudler: Full year resident?

Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Sgt. Teunis: Is that just recently or is that been a year you've 26 lived here or ?

27 Greenwood: Well, I moved here a year ago.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 Interview With Paul Greenwood ril 9, 1996) 2 28 Sgt. Teunis: A year ago?

29 Greenwood: Yeah.

30 Sgt. Teunis: At the time of this incident, were you here living 31 here?

32 Greenwood: Yes.

33 Det. Sudler: Where are you from originally?

34 Greenwood: Bellingham, Washington.

35 Det. Sudler: Washington.

36 Greenwood: North of Seattle.

37 Det. Sudler: You went diagonally across the whole 38 Greenwood: Just about as far away as I could get and stay in 39 the country.

40 Det. Sudler: Okay. A little bit more temperate climate down here huh?

Greenwood: Actually no. It's more severe in the summer 43 significantly.

44 DetSudler: Yeah.

45 Sgt. Teunis: Where actually Mr. Greenwood do you live at?

46 Greenwood: Uhthe Hacienda I believe it's called the 47 Hacienda Gardens on uh what is that street 48 Sgt. Teunis: Saturn Avenue?

49 Greenwood: Saturn right.

so Sgt. Teunis: Is there an apartment or a building?

51 Greenwood: Yeah, A-13.

52 Sgt. Teunis: 8 ...

53 Greenwood: A-13.

54 Det. Sudler: Okay. Ummas we've discussed previouslyI 55 know that umm we had an interview with you back 56 on I believe it was December the 6th concerning .r-7 Lisa. You you recall that interview?

Greenwood: Yes.Det. Sudler: Okay. We're just umm basically doing some more 60 followup, investigation for the Medical Examiner in ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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62 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

63 Det. Sudler: Umm ... her family ... you know ... lives in Dallas 64, and they're not you know they did not have 65 the contact with her you know prior to her death 66 to provide a lot of information about her health, etc., b'/ and some of her background. And that's what we'd like 68 to do with you today is to go back over you know 69 what knowledge you had of Lisa.

70 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

71 Det. Sudler: A little bit of you know more detailed than we did 72 ummso a lot of the stuff that we're gonna cover is stuff that we've covered over there too.

Greenwood: Sure.

75 Det. Sudler: So I apologize for the repetition of it in it. But 76 just to make sure that we've got it all and and again 77 1 want to make this a fair and accurate statement.

78 That's why it is being tape recorded today. Umm I 79 understand that uh you had contact with Lisa at this 80 incident. When was the first time that you'd you'd 81 met Lisa McPherson?

82 Greenwood: That night.

83 Det. Sudler: That night?

84 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

85 Det. Sudler: And we would be referring to December the 5th?

86 Greenwood: I don't remember the date.

87 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm the night that she was taken to the 88 hospital.

89 Greenwood: Right.

Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm ... what was your involvement in. that?

Greenwood:. Uh ... just to assist taking her to the hospital.

92 Det. Sudler: Who contacted you?

93 Greenwood: My Senior A.J. Sprecher.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rep,*-)rt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood ril 9, 1996) 4 94 Det. Sudler: Okay. Senior ?

95 Greenwood: Oh uh my boss.

96 Det. Sudler: Okay alright. A.J. Sprecher?

97 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

98 Det. Sudler: Can you spell that?

99 Greenwood: Uh S P R E C H E R.

100 Det. Sudler: Okay. And boss over a a particular job function 101 that you have?

102 Greenwood: Yes.

103 Det. Sudler: What would that be?

104 Greenwood: Okay. I'm a it's called a Deputy Staff Section 105 Officer Staff Section meaning the part in the organization that handles staff.

Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm like employee relations?

108 Greenwood: Yeah.

109 Det. Sudler: Okay.

110 Greenwood: See, I I make'sure that staff gets training uh being educated on their particular post ... and 112 auditing, which is a a church function.

113 Det. Sudler: Okay. How did you get a job like that I mean 114 do. you have background in that?

115 Greenwood: I have no idea. I was just chosen for it.

116 Det. Sudler: Okay. They must have liked your resume better or 117 or something. I understand you have a a background as 118 a chiropractor.

119 Greenwood: Yes.

120 Det. Sudler: Retired?

121 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

1 22 Det. Sudler: Umm Sgt. Teunis: Where--was that at?

Greenwood: In Bellingham, Washington.

125 Sgt. Teunis: How how long did you do that?

126 Greenwood: Twenty years.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood 9, 1996) .5 127 Sgt. Teunis: Twenty years?

128 Greenwood: Uh Huh. I was eight years there.

129 Det. Sudler: And after retirement you went back into full-time 130 work again.

131 Greenwood:. Ityeah, it works out that way.

132 Det. Sudler: Right .... yeah.

133 Greenwood:. Changed jobs.

134 Det. Sudler: Ummso you received a call about Lisa fromfrom 135 Dr. Johnson from Janice?

136 Greenwood: No.

137 Det. Sudler: or who called you7 Oh you you're 138 Greenwood: No, I was on actually doing some drilling on study Det. Sudler: Okay.

141 Greenwood: And my Senior came up to me and asked me to go do 142 this.

143 Det. Sudler: Okay. And who did he receive the call from?

144 Greenwood: I have no idea.

145 Det. Sudler: No idea. Okay. And what what basically was the part 146 of that.umm conversation? How did that transpire?

147 Greenwood: Uh the when she asked me?' 148 Det. Sudler: Yes.

149 Greenwood: Oh, she just asked me to go over to the cabanas and help Laura take ... what's her name ... Lisa ... to the 151 hospital.

152 Det. Sudler: And you're referring to Laura Arrunada?

153 Greenwood: Yes.

154 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm what is her role with the with the 155 organization? ' Greenwood: I don't know. Oh, Laura?

Det. Sudler: Yeah.

158 Greenwood: She was the Medical Liaison Officer.

159 Det. Sudler: Okay.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 +-erview With Paul Greenwood (000~,ril 9, 1996) ge 6 160 Sgt. Teunis: Did she make mention of what hospital on the 161 telephone?

162 Greenwood: No.

163 Sgt. Teunis: Your-Seniorwhen they talked?

164 Greenwood: No, it wasn't on the phone. She came to where I 165 was.

166 Sgt. Teunis: Came to you?

167 Greenwood: Yeah.

168 Sgt. Teunis: In person?

169 Greenwood: Yes.

170 Sgt. Teunis: And basically told you or asked you if you could 171 assist in bringing Lisa to the hospital.' Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Sgt. Teunis: Was there anything else said about any hospital 174 who might be going with you or anything like that 175 at that time?

176 Greenwood: No.

177 Det. Sudler: Okay. And you referred to the cabanas as where 178 Lisa was staying?

179 Greenwood: Right.

180 Det. Sudler: Where' is that at?

181 Greenwood: That's'at the Ft. Harrison 182 Det. Sudler: Okay at 210?

183 Greenwood: Yeah 210 North or 210 I don't know North Ft.

184 Harrison is that it?

185 Sgt. Teunis: South.

186 Greenwood: South okay.

187 Det.'Sudler: Umm and at this time, were you also living on Saturn?

188 Greenwood: Yes.

Det. Sudler: -Okay-;-"-- -Do you -reca-1-1 --what time it was when you got this call ... afternoon ... evening?

191 Greenwood: Uh ... around 8:00.

192 Det. Sudler: About-.8:00?, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death.

December 6, 1995 4-erview With Paul Greenwood 9, 1996) 4e 7 193 Greenwood: Yeah.

194 Det. Sudler: Okay. And you drove to your residence to Ft.

Harrison?

No, I was at the Ft. Harrison 195 Greenwood:

196 Det. Sudler: You were already there?

197 Greenwood: Yes, I was in this place called The Internship 198 it's a study area.

199 Det. Sudler: Alright. So it didn't take you very long to 200 respond there?

201 Greenwood: Oh no a couple minutes.

202 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm ... when you arrived at the cabanas...

203 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

204 Det. Sudler: Do you recall what room you went to?

Greenwood: Umm ... no... 2 something ... 20... I don't know. It's on the bottom floor.

207 Det. Sudler: Okay. On the bottom floor?

208 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

209 Det. Sudler: Okay. Who was present when you arrived?

210 Greenwood: Laura.

211 Det. Sudler: Okay. Laura Arrunada?

212 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

213' Det. Sudler: And who else?

214 Greenwood: Uh Janice.was where was she she went to get 215 her car.

216 Det. Sudler: Okay. This was I guess relayed to you by Laura 217 that she was gone?

218 Greenwood: Yes.

219 Det. Sudler: Okay. -Alright. Umm and Lisa was there obviously.

220 Greenwood: Yes.

221 Det. Sudler: Okay. Where was Lisa in the room?

Greenwood: On the bed Det. Sudler: Okay.- Umm,.describe the room for me.

224- Greenwood: Well, let's see it had two beds.*. like a f if th of 225 the-room would be a bed there, a bed there and ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 +-erview With Paul Greenwood r'v,;ril 9, 1996) ...ge 8 226 then there's like a long dresser cabinet on this 227 wall. And then a door out that way into a closet 228 and a bathroom.

229 Sgt. Teunis: Have you been in other rooms over there other than 230 that one before that?

231 Greenwood: UmmI've been in not in the cabanas no.

232 Sgt. Teunis: So this is the first time you've gone to one of 233 those cabana rooms?

234 Greenwood: Yes.

235 Sgt. Teunis: Are the cabana rooms all those that sit on the 236 first and second floor?

237 Greenwood: In that lower section in the back on whatisit Osceola?

Sgt. Teunis: Osceola.

Greenwood: Yeah.

241 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. So all of those that front.0sceola are what 242 you know to be the cabanas?

243 Greenwood: UhI don't know if all of them at least the ones 244 in the two story part.

245 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

246 Greenwood: I don't know if that other part maybethere may 247 be I don't I don't know.

248 Sgt. Teunis: Alright.

249 Greenwood: 'I've never really looked that close.

250 Sgt. Teunis: And-and just so we understand Mr.' Greenwood, you 251 ... You said that she was on what floor?

252 Greenwood: The bottom floor.

253 Sgt. Teunis: The bottom floor?

254 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Sgt. Teunis: And - Greenwood: Ground level.

257 Sgt. Teunis: And you mentioned to us that there was two beds 258 in there?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 erview With Paul Greenwood 9, 1996) ~e 9 259 Greenwood: Yes.

260 Sgt. Teunis: Can you describe them the beds is it like a 261 double bed single bed?

262 Greenwood: Yes double.

263 Sgt. Teunis: Double beds?

264 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

265 Sgt. Teunis: And you're sure there was two beds in there?

266 Greenwood: Yeah.

267 Sgt. Teunis: How were'they uh do you remember were the beds 268 made or unmade?

269 Greenwood: Made up.

270 Sgt. Teunis: Made?

Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Sgt. Teunis: Do you remember exactly what was on the beds as far 273 as a a covering was it 274 Greenwood: No.

275 Sgt. Teunis: You know the color or anything like that?

276 Greenwood: NO VERBAL ANSWER 277 Sgt., Teunis: Okay. You don't remember that,right?

278 Greenwood: Didn't really,care.

279 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And tell tell us if you would Mr. Greenwood 280 exactly what you saw that you can remember in th . e.

281 n you you arrived there. You mentioned 282 the beds. You you gave us a layout of the room.

283 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

284 Sgt. Teunis: Uh what else did you see in there?

285 Greenwood: Uh you mean like things?

286 Sgt. Teunis: Things ... personal effects of ... of Lisa.or anything 287 like that.

Qe-~ Greenwood: On the top of the dresser like thing there were like a water bottle and oh God, what else was in there 290 personal things you know likelike what there 291 were some vitamins. There was if I remember right ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood ril 9, 1996) 10 292~ a hairdryer or something like that some personal 293 girl things you know. I don't know I didn't 294 pay much attention to that. Umm seems like there 295 was no, that's about it.

296 Sgt. Teunis: How did you know they were vitamins Mr Mr. Greenwood?

297 Greenwood: Well, I you know vitamins come in distinctive 298 vitamin bottles.

299 Sgt. Teunis: So you saw the bottle?

300 Greenwood: Yeah.

301 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Did you see what was in the bottl e?

302 Greenwood: No.

303 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. So by the the bottle you concluded C~ it was vitamins correct?

Greenwood: Yeah.

306 Sgt. Teunis: And and the water you mentioned.

307 Greenwood: Just a jug you knowlike a one of these 308 Sgt. Teunis: Go ahead Ron.

309 Greenwood: A quart maybe.

310 Det. Sudler: Quart ... like a...

311 Greenwood: or a liter or something like that.

312 Det. Sudler: Like a springwater?

313 Greenwood: Yeah,'one of those.

314 Det. Sudler: Like Evian or... ?

315 Greenwood: Evian that's what I was trying to-say one 316 of those.

317 Sgt. Teunis: And and did you see the the make of that or the 318 brand of that?

319 Greenwood: INAUDIBLE 320 Sgt. Teunis: And was that did it have water.in it or was it em ty? Do you remember?

Greenwood: No.

323 Sgt. Teunis: So you just 324 Greenwood: Seemed it like it had it looked like water in it ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood 9,1996) ,e 11 325 .... yeah.

326 Sgt. Teunis: Alright. So obviously it was clear then, right?

327 Greenwood: Yes.

328 Sgt. Teunis: And you could see that there was some type of 329 liquid in there?

330 Greenwood: Yeah.

331 Sgt. Teunis: okay.

332 Det. Sudler: Was there any other medication present in the room?

333 Greenwood: None that I saw.

334 Det. Sudler: Any evidence that she had been ill?

335 Greenwood: Well what do you mean evidence?

336 Det. Sudler: Well Greenwood: You mean like she's laying on the bed and not doing well ... that's ...

339 Det. Sudler: Okay. Well, describe that I mean did it look 340 like she had appendicitis or vomiting or anything 341 like that?

342 Greenwood: No, nothing like that.

343 Det. Sudler: Okay. Well, what did you see? You said that she was 344 Greenwood: She was dressed and laying on the bed and uh uh 345 eyes open and 1~reathing.heavily.

346 Det. Sudler: -okay. Heavily describe that I mean was it 347 forced you know 348 Greenwood: Umm 349 Det. Sudler: Respirations or 350 Greenwood: When I say heavily, it's it was a sound more than 351 anything else you know what I mean just a 352 Whhhh Hhhh like that.

353 Det. Sudler: Labored? Would that be accurate?

Greenwood: I don't know. It's just I just call it heavy yeah 356 Det. Sudler: Well , 357 Greenwood: You know normally you don't hear somebody breathe.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 ""erview With Paul Greenwood 7il 9, 1996) e 12 358 Det. Sudler: Okay. What was she wearing?

359 Greenwood: Seems like a tee shirt and a pair of pants you 360 know like jeans or something.

361 Det. Sudler: Okay. Did she appear that she had been taking care 362 of herself or ?

363 Greenwood: No. Appear that she washad been taking care of 364 herself?

365 Det. Sudler: Yeah. I mean was she groomed oryou know?

366 Greenwood: Yeah.

367 Det. Sudler: Okay.

368 Greenwood: Yeah.

369 Det. Sudler: So Sgt. Teunis: Do you remember Greenwood: Her hair was a little messed up.

372 Sgt. Teunis: Do you remember the clothing or are you just ?

373 Greenwood: No, I'm just looking in my mind a picture of when 374 1 walked in the room and she was wearing pants of 375 some sort. I think they were jeans.

376 Sgt. Teunis: Alright.

377 Greenwood: And then a shirt of some sort.

378 Sgt. Teunis: Do me a favor. When when we ask questions about 379 that, if you really don't know, then kinda let us 380 know if you don't know or not. Uh for an example, 381 like the clothing I know it's hard to remember some 382 of those things 383 Greenwood: Uh.Huh.

384 Sgt. Teunis: Back you know several months ago.

385 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

386 Sgt. Teunis: So we're trying to get an understanding exactly what was in there. But if you don't know, then please tell-us that, okay.

389" 'Greenwood: I've got that.

390 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Uh...a lot of us during conversation tries ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- SCIENTOLOGY IS SECRETLY A UFO CULT ASK THEM ABOUT XENU Mike O'Connor <mike@leptonicsystems.com>

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392 Greenwood: Clothes pantslet's put it that way.

393 Sgt. Teunis: okay alright-well, that's that's exactly 394 the point I'm trying to make to you.

395 Greenwood: Yeah.

396 Sgt. Teunis: If you know they're pants, then just say pants or 397 ... you know shorts or whatever.

398 Greenwood: Got it.

399 Sgt. Teunis: Just so we have a clear understanding. Uh we 400 mentioned Det. Sudler's talked to you briefly 401 about the breathing and all that.

402 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

C~) Sgt. Teunis: Umm ... you were a retired...you are a retired chiropractor?

405 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

406 Sgt. Teunis:. What kind of training did you go through to become 407 a chiropractor?

408 Greenwood: Uhfour years of chiropractic college and then 409 prior to that four years of university.

410 Sgt. Teunis: okay.

411 G reenwood: Now the university was not in preparation for 412 chiropractic. It was a general education in business.

413 Sgt. Teunis: Oh' * okay. Uhso you switched hats before7 414 Greenwood: I switched-hats before.

415 Sgt. Teunis: okay.

416. Greenwood: I'm noted for that.

417* Sgt'. Teunis: What college did you go to?

418 Greenwood: Palmer College of Chiropractic...Davenport, Iowa.

419 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And before that?

Greenwood: University of Washington.

Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And you received a degree at both of those 422 colleges?

423 Greenwood: Yes.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rep6rt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood V'\ril 9, 1996) ge 14 424 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And immediately following the second degree, 425 you went into practice by yourself?

426 Greenwood: Yes.

427 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. You didn't have any partners or anything 428 like that?

429 Greenwood: No.

430 Sgt. Teunis: And and your office you had your own office 431 correct?

432 ~Greenwood: Uh Huh.

433 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. So would it be safe to say that you do have 434 some medical background then, right?

435 Greenwood: No, I have no medical background.

Sgt. Teunis: No background Greenwood: I have a chiropractic 'background.

438 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Excuse my ignorance about what is involved 439 in that type of schooling, but is th ere any medical 440 training at all in a chiropractic school or?

441 Greenwood:, No. There's basic science training you know. We 442 study the basic sciences so that we can understand 443 what we are doing as a chiropractor. But it's a 444 totally different approiach-to a medical approach.

445 A medical approach is looking at symptoms-looking 446 at what a person is doing and then trying to determine 447 what's wrong. A chiropractor does not do that. A 448 chiropractor uses the same data but a totally 449 different way-of looking at it.

450 Sgt. Teunis: Okay but alright, I'm trying to understand this, '451, okay.

452 Greenwood: Yeah, I got that.

Sgt. Teunis: And you still would look at symptoms, right? If somebody.came in for example of a ... a backache, .455 you would have to look at the symptoms there and 456 decide what you would do or no?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RepOrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood ril 9, 1996) 74e '15 457 Greenwood: No no you don't look at symptoms. Symptoms are 458 the last step in the process. what you do is you 459. you know as as a chiropractor, you have numerous 460 a multitude of tests chiropractic -tests that you do 461 to determine the source of the problem of any problem.

462. And what you're doing is looking for a breakdown in 463 communication in the body. You find that and really 464 the symptoms are for the pa tient. I don't I've never 465 paid much attention to symptoms.

466 Sgt. Teunis: I know here when we became police officerswe have 467 to go through a basic first responder type training 468 course with medical so we know how to do' CPR and we know how to recognize certain things.

Greenwood: Uh Huh.

471 Sgt. Teunis: Uhisis there such a thing in your type of 472 training as far as chiropractic.school uh similar to 473 that of where if somebody became ill in your office 474 you would know how to treat that?

475 Greenwood: Uh a kind kind of a cursory thing where you'd 476 like somebody would come in and give us a CPR 477 treatment and that sort of thing. Basically what 478 we did was called 911 and got them to the hospital.

479 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

480 Greenwood: Totatotally different approach.

481 Sgt. Teunis.: So if there was an emergency in your office, you 482 wouldn't necessarily treat them at that point.

483 You would immediately call 911.

484 Greenwood: Right.

485 Sgt. Teunis: Sorry Ron go ahead.

Det. Sudler: That's alright, I Sgt. Teunis: I just... I was trying to get an understanding...

488 Greenwood: Yeah,,seethere's there's really we're not 489 we're not anything like medical doctors at all.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Report 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood 9, 1996) _4e 16 490 Det. Sudler: Okay. So was there a~a specific reason for 491 contacting you to assist with the transport?

492 Greenwood: I have no idea.

493 Det. Sudler: Okay. YouI mean obviously you were singled 494 out f rom I guess at least several other persons that 495 would be around to transport. But there wasn' t any 496 specific.reason why they called you?

497 Greenwood: Not that I'm aware of.

498 Det. Sudler: Okay. Do you think they relied on you know 499 the fact that you were a retired chiropractor?

500 Is that common knowledge?

501 Greenwood: Oh of my boss yeah.

Det. Sudler: Okay.

Greenwood: I try not to have that get around.

504 Det. Sudler: Okay alright. Uh 505 Sgt. Teunis: Your boss uhis a female?

506 Greenwood: Yes.

507 Sgt. Teunis: A.J. stands for 508 Greenwood: Andrea Jane.

509 Sgt. Teunis: Andrea Jane?

510 Greenwood: And for that reason she goes by A.J.

511 Sgt. Teunis: I understand. And her job function is what?

512 Greenwood: Uh she I s a "department head.

513 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

514 Greenwood: So over umm the Staff Section like what I do and 515 over let's see, what is it over Auditing 516 over the the course room staff it's called 517 Staff College. Umm over the medical office 518 Medical Liaison Office. That's about it.

Sgt.* Teunis: That was probably the point I was trying to get at.

So she is over top of the medical part of this?

521 Greenwood:' Right.

522 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 -terview With Paul Greenwood ~ril 9, 1996) .ge 17 523 Greenwood: Administratively yeah.

524 Sgt. Teunis: Alright. So you don't know if Janice called her 525 direct then?

526 Greenwood: No, I have no idea.

527 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. All's you know is that she came to you in 528 person 529 Greenwood: Right.

530 Sgt. Teunis: And asked you to assist?

531 Greenwood: Right.

532 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And you didn't ask any questions of her 533 what the problem was or anything like that?

534. Greenwood: No.

Sgt.,Teunis: Okay.

Det. Sudler: Have you ever been asked to assist like this?

537 Greenwood: NO.

538 Det. Sudler: Okay.

539 Sgt. Teunis: I-I guess we can get back into the room of ...

540 Det. Sudler: Yeah...

541 Sgt. Teunis: You know you described the room to us again and 542 what you believe was 20 something. You don't 543 remember exactly 544 Greenwood: No.

545 Sgt. Teunis:. And and that's fair. I meanI understand it's 546 been a while'. Uh you described the room like you 547 had ummm and that she was dressed in some type of 548 long pants and and maybe a tee shirt. Is that 549 correct?

550. Greenwood: Something like that 'yeah.

551 Sgt. Teunis: Alright. Umm..did she say anything....this being Lisa?.

Greenwood: No.

Sgt. Teunis: At anytime that you were in the room?

554 Greenwood: No.

555 Sgt. Teunis: Umm ... was she complaining about anything other than ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood ril 9, 1996) j le 18 556 verbalizing you know you know holding her arm 557 or hand or leg or anything you know where 558 Greenwood: No.

559 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Describe how she was in the bed.

Was shejust 560 very limp like she didn't move you know can 561 you describe that to us?

562 Greenwood: Sure. She was lying on her back and apparently 563 looking at the ceiling and breathing heavily. And 564 that's it. There was no no motion no 565 Det. Sudler: Did Laura or Janice tell you you know what they 566 thought was wrong with her?

567 Greenwood: No.

Det. Sudler: Did anybody have any idea what was wrong with her?

Greenwood: Well, I don't know that.

570 Det. Sudler: Okay. But that nothing that they relayed to you?

571 Greenwood: No.

572 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm they simply asked you to assist in 573 taking her to a to the hospital?

574 G reenwood: Uh Huh.

575 Sgt. Teunis: Obviously Mr. Greenwood, at one point somebody 576 decided this is the time that we're gonna leave.

577 Could you tell me who decided that what was said 578 and and what happened*next?

579 Greenwood: Well, I was when I was asked to go over, it was 580 to take her to the hospital. So as soon as we got 581 her in the car, we took her. I mean that was 1 582 basically it. A decision I don't know.

583 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Uhlet's say you're standing in the room 584 with I believe you said it was Laura Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Did Janice at one point arrive there with 587 a vehicle?

588 Greenwood: Yes. She was out on the curb with with the vehicle.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 rview With Paul Greenwood ,_~~e Nril 9, 1996) -je 19 589 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And the curb if if I can bring your focus 590 to that if if I remember it right, Osceola there's 591 a curb and then I believe there's a fence 592 Greenwood: Brick I think-brick or wire.

593 Sgt. Teunis: There's some type of fencing there 594 Greenwood: Something.

595 Sgt. Teunis: Between thelcaba cabanas and Osceola. Is that 596 correct?

597 Greenwood: That's correct.

598 Sgt. Teunis: Umm, and she parked along that 599 Greenwood: Yes.

600 Sgt. Teunis: Curb line there?

Greenwood: Yes.

Sgt. Teunis: On Osceola?

603 Greenwood: In front of the that gate that goes out from 604 that'area, right.

605 Sgt. Teunis: Alright.

606. Greenwood: Onto the street.

607 Sgt. Teunis: When she came in ... this being Janice...

608 Greenwood: When she came in?

609 Sgt. Teunis: To the room...

610 Greenwood: I don't recall that she did.

611 Sgt. Teunis: . Okay. Umm how how did you become aware that 612 she was out there then?

613 Greenwood: The security guard told us she was there.

614 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And it was was it at that point then you 615 all left?

616 Greenwood:. Yeah.

617 Sgt. T eunis: Okay. Tell us what you did and and what you remember'Laura doing at that point.

Greenwood: We got Lisa ... picked ... we picked up Lisa and took 620 her out and put her in the car in the back seat.

621 And it was a van one of these mini vans. And we ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some material is missing because it did not OCR well.

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95-29158 NAME(S): LISA McPHERSON DEC 13 1995 ORIG. DATE REPORTED: 12- 06-95 IDENT: AOA/DEATH INVESTIGATION VI WILL PROSECUTE:

Y N LOCATION: 644 PIERCE STREET PAGE 1 OF 3 INVESTIGATOR: DET CAROLYN CARRASQUILLO ARRESTS: NONE IMPOUND INVENTORY: NONE PROPERTY CONTROL NO. NONE PREV CASE STATUS: ACTIVE NARRATIVE:

Det Sgt Teunis asked Det Howard and me to assist New Port Richey PD in finding background and next-of-kin on victim Lisa McPherson as she had died in a Hospital in New Port Richey but reportedly lived in Clearwater. A possible address of 901 No Osceola #205 was given. We checked that location but found that it is a bad address --- would fall approximately where the back of North Ward Elementary School sits.

We were advised also that one of the persons who transported her to the (r~pital may be a Janis Johnson who gave a phone number of 461-4975.

(This .-,-.,)ne number is listed to a Kevin L Wiley at 551 No Saturn Ave, Clearwater). I telephoned Ms Johnson to make sure she was home.

Arrangements were made to meet with her by the complex pool. We met her at approx 1235 hours. She said she is an M.D. from another state but does not practice medicine here in Florida. She is called on when someone in the Church (of Scientology) gets sick to give her opinion as to whether or not the person should go to a Doctor or a Hospital. On this occasion she was called by Alain Kartuzinski who is a Supervisor at 210 So Ft Harrison, "The Ft Harrison". When she arrived, McPherson was in a room and was awake. She said "Hill to Johnson then indicated that her throat was hurting. Johnson said.right away she could see that McPherson was very sick, saying she looked SEPTIC. She called Dr-Minkoff as he is the Doctor used by the Church and decided she should take McPherson to him. She asked Laura Arrunada to go with her as Laura has a Medical degree from Mexico. She then asked if anyon e else around had medical training to help her transport and Paul Greenwood said he had Chiropractic training, so Johnson asked him to help lifting McPherson in and out of her They took McPherson to HCA Hospital in New Port Richey as that is where Minkoff works. Det Howard asked why they didn't go to Morton Plant Hospital as it was much closer if she was so sick. Johnson's reply was "I didn't think she was that sick"..

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Det Howard and I next went to AMC Publishing at 620 Lakeview Road, Clearwater, where McPherson had reportedly been working. We were told that. Bennetta Slaughter, the supervisor, was out of the office, but we were able to speak with her husband David Slaughter. He said-Bennetta is the one we would need to talk with as she has the personnel files but he would attempt to give us some background information. He said McPherson's Mother does in fact live in Dallas and that her first name is Fannie but said he doesn't know her last name and thinks it is different from McPherson's. He said McPherson has worked for this Company for several years and is a personal friend of his and his wife's but said he didn't know much about her. He did she was in sales in this office and had been out sick that past couple of ((00""'v'ks with unknown ailment. He took my business card and agreed to call or have his wife call.

When I arrived for work on Thursday morning, 7 December, there was a message on my recorder from David Slaughter. He said he had found out that McPherson's home address was 240 Windward Passage #302. He said he still hadn't found out how to reach her Mother but said he had other information on her if I would call him. He left a home number of 581-9444 and said his office number is 446-1100 --- works 9AM - 6PM. I attempted to call him at work but was told he was in a meeting. The receptionist said she would ask him to call me'back.

This concluded my involvement to date.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rep6rt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood )ril 9, 1996) 20 ..ge 622 got in the back seat.

623 Det. Sudler: So Lisa wasn't able to 624 Greenwood: No.

625 Det. Sudler: Walk on her own?

626 Greenwood: No.

627 Det. Sudler: Did you ask her that or was she able to communicate?

628 Greenwood: No. She wasn't communicating.

629 Det. Sudler: Okay. So she did-did people actually ask her 630 questions and she didn't respond or she just wasn't 631 communicating?

632 Greenwood: No, we didn't talk. See, one of the things in 633 Scientology, when someone is sick or injured you don't talk around them because of what it..it puts impressions in the mind which create things 636 in the late you know-later on. So, under those 637 circumstances you don't talk. If you talk, you 638 talk away and then you go back and do what you do.

639 so, in all the time that we were actually working 640 with Lisa, we. never talked.

641 Sgt. Teunis: Impressions in whose mind?

642 Greenwood: In the in the person's mind that's not like full 643 faculties.

644 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. So in this case Lisa?

645 Greenwood: Yes.

646 Sgt. Teunis: So you purposely didn't talk around Lisa?

647 Greenwood: Exactly.

648 Sgt.~Teunis: Okay. Umm did you at any point you know 649 walk away from Lisa to communicate with Laura?

650 Greenwood: Well no, because once we got she came out of the room.. we decided w*hat we were gonna do. We went in, picked her up, and took her. And that 653 was it.

654 Det. Sudler: How long were you in the room?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood ~)ril 9, 1996) .9e 21 655 Greenwood: I don't know less probably under five minutes.

656 Det. Sudler: Okay.

657 Greenwood: Just a short time. I I didn't pay any attention 658 to that.

659 Det. Sudler: Would it also be part of the you know sick or 660 injured person not to communicate* with I guess 661 caregivers or any ?

662 Greenwood: No.

663 Det. Sudler: Just the caregivers themselves?

664 Greenwood: Right.

665 Det. Sudler: Would not directly communicate.' 666 Greenwood: Right. No, if you're asked a question by someone, that's different.

That means that's everything's cool and will be alright. But when they're not 669 doing that when they're not originating, then 670 you don't. Like you know that's just the way 671 you do it.

672 Det. Sudler: Okay. So it would not necessarily have been Lisa's 673 ...you know-choice not to communicate. Or was it 674 the fact that she was too ill to communicate?

675 Greenwood: I don't know. She j ust didn't.

676 Det. Sudler: Okay.

677 Sgt. Teunis: And because she didn't initiate, you didn't respond.

678 Greenwood: Righ t.

679 Det. Sudler: -Umm so you basically lifted her with the assistance 680 of Laura?

681 Greenwood: With Laura yes.

682 Det. Sudler: With Laura okay. Umm she couldn't get up on her 683 own?

Greenwood: I don't know.

Det. Sudler That wasn't communicated to you?

686 Greenwood: No.

687 Det. Sudler:' She just ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood (?'~ril 9, 1996) ..ge 22 688 Greenwood: We just helped got her up 689 Det. Sudler: Just helped her?

69 0 Greenwood:- Yeah.

691 Det. Sudler: Alright. And you carried her to Janice's van?

692 Greenwood: Yes.

693 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm was there any communication at that 694 point once you all got into the van about where 695 you were going?

696 Greenwood: No.

697 Det. Sudler: Her condition or anything?

698' Greenwood: No.

699 Sgt. Teunis: Mr. Greenwood, did you physically pick her up or did both you and Laura do that or?

Greenwood: Both Laura and I.

702 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. Can can you describe how that was done?

703 Did you like pick her up?

704 Greenwood: Just picked her up yeah one on one end and one 705 on the other just picked her up.

706 Sgt. Teunis: -Okay. Do you remember what end that you picked up 707 by chance?

708 Greenwood: I was'the heavy end with the head.

709 Sgt. Teunis: The head area. So she would be at the feet area?

710 Greenwood: Yes.

711 Sgt. Teunis: That'd be Laura?

712 Greenwood: Yes.

713 Sgt. Teunis: And then you would take the head a nd you walked out that 714 way?

715 Greenwood: Yes.

716 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

Det. Sudler: Did you notice anything on her bodyany rashes or unusual marks blemishes?

719 Greenwood: One hand or the otherI don't remember.which 720 had some bruises on it. That's all I noticed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood Til 9, 1996) .ge 23 721 Det. Sudler: Okay. Anything on her arms or face?

722 Greenwood: I didn't notice.

723 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm did-was there any evidence of 724 injury or anything that-you know did she.moan 725 like she 726 Greenwood: Didn't seem to be.

727 Det. Sudler: Had been hurt or anything when you picked her up?

728 Greenwood: No, just the breathing.

729 Det. Sudler: Just the the breathing just g ot 730 Greenwood: Got heavier yeah.

731 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm the bruise you don't recall what 732 hand?

Greenwood: No, not exactly.

Det. Sudler: Just one of her hands?

735 Greenwood: One of them. Maybe the one that I was next to, 736 which would be the right one.

737 Det. Sudler: Okay.

738 Greenwood: But I don't reI don't really remember.

739 Det. Sudler: Okay. Ummso back at.the van, there was no 740 communication about where you were going?

741 Greenwood:. No.

742 Det. Sudler: Okay. You so you believe that it was pretty 743 much I guess planned before you'd arrived there?

744 Greenwood: Must've been because nothing was said while I 745 was there.

746 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm what was.the seating arrangement in 747 the van?

748 Greenwood: Janice was driving. Laura was on the back left 749 and I was on the back right and Lisa was in themiddle.

Det. Sudler: Okay. And Lisa made no comments or statements?

752 Greenwood: No.

753 DetSudler: Okay.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 1,;,.--~erview With Paul Greenwood 1ril, 9, 1996) ge 24 754 Sgt. Teunis: What's the back left back right mean?

755 Greenwood: The back seat.

756 Sgt. Teunis: This is a mini van, right?

757 Greenwood: Yeah. There's three seats.

758 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

759 Greenwood: Well, actually two in the front, one in one in the 760 middle, and then the wide one in the back. We moved 761 the 762 Sgt. Teunis: one being like a double seat in the middle?

763 Greenwood: I think 764 Sgt. Teunis: They're all different you know. You-have like 765 bucket seats a lot of times in the front. And then in the back you could have like one bench seat., Greenwood: Right.

768 Sgt. Teunis: Is that what type it was?

769 Greenwood: That's what it was right.

770 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. And then in the back of course there's 771 probably one that goes across the back.

772 Greenwood: Clear across the back, right. We were on that 773 one. We had the front the middle one forward 774 1 think seems like it was laid down. I don't 775 remember that. But anyway, we had it forward so 776 we'd have some room the middle seat.

777 Sgt. Teunis:. Okay. And you think maybe the back of that the 778 back rest of that was laying down?

779 Greenwood: I don't 780 Sgt. Teunis: You don't remember?

781 Greenwood: No.

782 Det. Sudler: And there was no conversation between anybody in the car?

Green-wood:. None.

785 D et. Sudler: Laura's breathing still continued heavily?

786 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood k17ril 9, 1996) 1 .~e 2 5 787 Det. Sudler: Okay.

788 Sgt. Teunis: Is that again again we don't understand 789 Scientology that well, but is that again you 790 didn't speak in the presence of her?

791 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

792 Sgt. Teunis: Because of your belief?

793 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

794 Sgt. Teunis: Okay.

795 Det. Sudler: Were you instructed to do that or it's just common 796 knowledge?

797 Greenwood: No, that's just common knowledge.

798 Det. Sudler:. Okay.

Greenwood: It's like if a child gets hurt, you don't talk until the child is through crying, etc., etc.

801 Det. Sudler: Okay~ 802 Greenwood: And then when they can originate, then you can talk 803 to them.

804 Det. Sudler: Okay.

805 Sgt. Teunis: How do you communicate with somebody though when 80.6 they're ill though if they can't respond back and 807 you don't ask questions?

808 Greenwood: I don't knowI don't I.don't I'm not in that 809 position.

810 Sgt. Teunis: I guess well, I guess I'm just asking you from 811 your own knowledge of your own belief 812 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

813 Sgt. Teunis: You know if you knowif you and I were 814 together I was very ill and I'm not able to 815 communicate you as my friend how would you ever communicate with me to ask me ... you know.., "Do you need an aspirin ... do you need this ... do 818 you ". I I'm trying to get an understanding what's 819 going on.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 erview With Paul Greenwood 9, 1996) -ge 26 .820 Greenwood: Okay., Now that would be a little different.

821 That'd be like finding out something about you 822 okay versus talking about you.

823 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. So youlcould inin the case if when you 824 went in to see Lisayou could ask her a question 825 uhsuch as "Does your arm hurt?"

826 Greenwood: Well, I wouldn't do that because that wouldn't be 827 something that I would do you know what I mean.

828 I'm not in a position of taking care of someone 829 you know.

830 Sgt. Teunis: Okay. I'm just trying to get you mentioned to 831 me that-that the scenario that I gave you was a little bit different. You're not talking about me Greenwood: But...

834 Sgt. Teunis: But you're talking to me.

bzib Greenwood: Okay. Let me give you an example. If I were a 836 surgeon or somebody was a surgeon that had somebody 837 under anesthetic or doing an operation, they would 838 not talk all through the surgery until that person 839 came totally conscious again. Then they could talk.

840 Sgt. Teunis: okay.

841 Greenwood: So you would do things... sign language ... whatever...

842 Sgt.. Teunis': Okay.

843 Greenwood: Rather than talk.' 844 Sgt. Teunis: So there's other ways of communicating.

845 Greenwood: Exactly.

846 Sgt. Teunis: Without verbalizing in front of the person.

847 Greenwood: Exactly.

848 Sgt. Teunit: Okay. But again going back to'my scenario where you and I are friends...

Greenwood: Uh Huh.

851 Sgt. Teunis: And and I'm ill and I can't speak.

852 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

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AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 terview With Paul Greenwood 61_0~ril 9, 1996) .ge 27 853 Sgt. Teunis: Dois there any way that you can communicate to 854 me to ask me what my problem is or if I'm feeling 855 pain or you know what I'm trying to get at?

856 Greenwood: Yeah. I don't know. I haven't I'venever been 857 confronted with that one.

858 Sgt. Teunis: okay.

859 Det. Sudler: Would you mentioned that Laura was the Medical 860 Liaison officer. Is that.correct?

861 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

862. Det. Sudler: What would her job be in terms of ... of dealing with 863 ... you know a sick or injured person?

864, Greenwood: Well, she's a Medical Liaison Officer for staff for the staff.- And basically what a Liaison Officer does is... is a point where staff can come in that 867 aren't feeling well-that are sick that have been 868 injured. And then she would say "Yes, you need to go 869 see this doctor or this doctor" or whatever.

870 Det. Sudler: Okay a hospital 871 Greenwood: It's a referral ... yes.

872 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm ... would she have been called in at Lisa's request or at somebody else's request?

874 Greenwood: I have no idea'.

875' Det. Sudler: Okay. But in the process.. I-mean ... what ... you 876 know would would you go directly to the 877 Medical Liaison Officer yourself or would you be 878 referred to that by somebody else your supervisor' 879 or something like that?

880 Greenwood: Uh if like if I broke a leg or something?

881 Yeah I would go to the Medical Liaison Office and then.

they would make sure that I got to the proper whatever.

884 Det. Sudler: Okay. Umm 885 Greenwood: Like go to the hospital or clinic or something.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Repbrt 95-29158 AOA/Suspicious Death December 6, 1995 iew With Paul Greenwood )ril 9, 1996) je 28 886 Det. Sudler: Did does is this part of the Medical Liaison 887 Office "

888 889 TAPE ONE SIDE TWO 890 891 Det. Sudler: This is gonna be a continuation of the interview 892 on Side B. The time is 9:43 a.m. Uh. .. -continuing 893 with Mr. Greenwood, umm we were talking about 894 the Medical Liaison Officer position and how I guess 895 that someone would go to them for referral to I guess 896 a doctor for a health problem.

897 Greenwood: Uh Huh.

Det. Sudler: Umm is is part of thatlike I said, is there an assessment that's done by that individual as to 900 ... you know whether or not they would recommend 901 ... you know emergency care or specialized care.

902 And and what does the Medical Liaison Off icer have 903 to have? I mean is that a job that anybody could 904 do?

905 Greenwood: Anybody.

906 Det. Sudler: Okay. It doesn't require any medical background?.

907 Greenwood: No.

908 Det. Sudler: Alright.

909 Greenwood: To help with the obvious stuff.

910 Det. Sudler: Okay. So but how did they how do they get 911 the information for the referrals not.being 912 Greenwood: The person goes to the office.

913 Det. Sudler: Okay. But if I was a Medical or you were a Medical 9 14 Liaison -Officer'and somebody.had an earache, do they know an Ear, Nose, & Throat Specialist in the area?

What type of training would they get so that they would 917 know who to call?

918 Greenwood: I don't know. I think they send them to like the ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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