We know the cult followed Mr. Minton, Ms. Brooks, and other Lisa
McPherson Trust people all over the place, that they had cameras trained
on them and the Trust itself, but it is news to me that the Trust
discovered what they believed was a wiretap on their phone system. Mr.

Dandar is inquiring of Mr. Merritt, a one-time lawyer for the LMT:



  20         Q    Did you ever discover something that appeared to
  21    be a wire tap to the telephone lines of the Lisa McPherson
  22    Trust?

  23         A    I was present when an unaccountable wire passing
  24    from what appeared to be Scientology's trunk line into our
  25    phone box was discovered -- or into the LMT phone box.

   1         Q    And what did you do about that?

   2         A    I -- I say I was present when it was discovered.

   3    I'm not sure if I was present there on the sidewalk when it
   4    was discovered.  But I believe it was -- Mr. Ward was there.

   5    And he has substantial amount of technical expertise.  And I
   6    told him that if it wasn't something that was going to
   7    affect our telephone service, to just pull it out.

   8         Q    And what did he do?

   9         A    I believe he pulled it out.

  10         Q    All right.

  11              THE COURT:  I'm real stupid here.  I don't know
  12         anything about this.  A trunk -- a trunk --

  13              THE WITNESS:  Trunk.  A line, some kind of wire
  14         coming from the direction of the Clearwater Bank
  15         building.  T-R-U-N-K.

  16              THE COURT:  Is this -- when I think trunk, I
  17         think of something we pack clothes in or something
  18         that goes in an automobile.

  19              THE WITNESS:  I'm thinking railroad line.  A
  20         trunk line is one that only goes in one direction.

  21              THE COURT:  It's a line, an actual phone line?

  22              THE WITNESS:  A wire.  I don't know what a --

  23              THE COURT:  You found something going from -- a
  24         trunk line to a phone line, which is a different
  25         wire?

   1              THE WITNESS:  A wire coming from the
   2         Clearwater -- from the direction of the Clearwater
   3         Bank building, into the telephone junction box that
   4         serviced the Lisa McPherson Trust building.

   5              THE COURT:  Okay.

   6    BY MR. DANDAR:

   7         Q    And the Clearwater Bank building was a building
   8    occupied and owned by the Church of Scientology.  Correct?

   9         A    Correct.



Below, the Judge is pretty pissed that Mr. Merritt helped remove raw
unedited video tapes owned by Mr. Bunker from the Trust building. The
Judge is under the impression his tapes should have been turned over in
response to an order that the Trust's tapes be turned over, and Mr.

Merritt disagrees with that. The tapes have in fact been turned over now
and are being reviewed privately. The Judge will decide which, if any
are to be released to the public/cult:



  21              THE COURT:  So he had no concern -- nobody had
  22         any concern over this court order because this court
  23         order didn't even refer to those, they just -- they
  24         were just -- didn't know what they were talking
  25         about?

   1              THE WITNESS:  At many times during the course
   2         of the litigation, the LMT had produced all of the
   3         videotapes that were its -- that belonged to it.

   4              But Scientology kept coming back and saying,
   5         "We know there is others, we know there is this
   6         library," and all of which was correct.

   7              However, it was Mr. Bunker's.  And there was
   8         Ms. Brooks' testimony which they had, and
   9         Mr. Bunker's affidavit to that effect.

  10              Again, I have no idea why they didn't subpoena
  11         Mr. Bunker.  But Mr. Bunker's concern was that
  12         Scientology would act unilaterally to seize his
  13         tapes.

  14              THE COURT:  So knowing this court order was in
  15         effect, despite the fact, in your mind, when it says
  16         "The control of, under the custody or --" I'm sorry,
  17         that "The Lisa McPherson Trust shall produce all
  18         videos in its possession or control," gee, was
  19         Mr. Bunker an employee there?

  20              THE WITNESS:  He was either an employee or a
  21         contractor.

  22              THE COURT:  So -- so he had some videos on
  23         their premises that he owned, is that what you are
  24         saying?

  25              THE WITNESS:  Some were on the premises, yes,
   1         ma'am.

   2              THE COURT:  So do you think that might be in
   3         the possession of the Lisa McPherson Trust?  Or the
   4         control of the Lisa McPherson Trust?

   5              THE WITNESS:  No, ma'am.

[...]

  14              THE COURT:  Do you know, the truth of the
  15         matter is I don't really care to hear from
  16         Mr. Bunker.

  17              I'm, quite frankly, flabbergasted.  You know,
  18         it is very clear to you and -- very clear to you
  19         that the Court was -- knew exactly what it meant,
  20         and that five times they were trying to get these --
  21         these tapes, they knew what they were trying to get.

  22         The judges knew what they were trying to get.  The
  23         judges were entering orders.

  24              But somehow you, Mr. Merrett, had figured out
  25         that this wasn't it and, oh, if Mr. Bunker would
   1         just throw these things out in the hallway, you
   2         would take care of it.  That is what I find to be
   3         amazing.  So you don't need to save me time.

   4              Move on, counselor.

   6         Q    Mr. Merrett --

   7              THE WITNESS:  Am I correct in assuming from
   8         that, nobody wants the videotapes any more?

   9              MR. WEINBERG:  No.  We want the videotapes.

  10              MR. MOXON:  We definitely want the videotapes.

  11              THE COURT:  I don't want the videotapes.  I
  12         assume if you have them or Mr. Bunker has them, they
  13         should be turned over.

  14              MR. DANDAR:  To Mr. Keane, the master.

  15              MR. MOXON:  We definitely want the videotapes.

  16         You saw the excerpt, your Honor, of the videotape of
  17         Jesse Prince, as to the end of cycle --

  18              THE COURT:  That one where there were a whole
  19         bunch of folks, Ms. Brooks and --

  20              MR. MOXON:  Yes, remember that -- they did
  21         produce one video much earlier in the case.  LMT
  22         produced a little excerpt of Dell Liebreich a few
  23         minutes long, excerpt of Gerry Armstrong, and this
  24         little composite thing where they had taken out of
  25         the original videos of Jesse Prince, so the Court
   1         had ordered long ago, several -- several courts
   2         ordered we get the unedited versions so we can see
   3         what other statements these witnesses made.

[...]

  14              THE COURT:  So you already had Mr. Bunker's
  15         tapes?

  16              THE WITNESS:  Correct.

  17              THE COURT:  And you had them in hiding -- I'm
  18         sorry, in trust?

  19              THE WITNESS:  Yes.  It is trust property, when
  20         lawyers keep property that belongs to their clients.

  21              THE COURT:  I see.  So you didn't think, did
  22         you, that these tapes that you said, "Put them out
  23         in the hallway and I'll take them," might get you in
  24         trouble with either this Court or with the Bar?

  25              THE WITNESS:  Neither the tapes, nor the owner
   1         of the tapes, were at any time subject to any
   2         subpoena or order of the Court, nor were they within
   3         the jurisdiction of the Court at any time.  Identity
   4         of their owner had been previously disclosed to
   5         Scientology.  Scientology elected to pursue a
   6         particular course of litigation which was
   7         extraordinarily foolhardy and time-consuming, but it
   8         was somebody else's property.

   9              THE COURT:  Well, I'm going to tell you what,
  10         sir, since this doesn't have a huge bearing on my
  11         case, I'm going to let you make that argument to the
  12         Bar, or I'm going to let you make that argument
  13         to -- whose order is this?  Judge Beach.

  14              MR. MOXON:  Judge Beach, your Honor.

  15              THE COURT:  So you can take that up --

  16              THE WITNESS:  I would ask that the Court, in
  17         throwing around terms like that, pay a trifle bit of
  18         attention to the order --

  19              THE COURT:  And I would suggest to you that I
  20         don't want to hear any more from you.  You know
  21         what, we only need to hear from you about really
  22         this one point and a few other points that people
  23         think are relevant, and then you may be excused.

 24              THE WITNESS:  Judge Beach's order was entered
  25         after the events you have been discussing.

   1              THE COURT:  You already said that, sir.  And
   2         I -- I guess we'll have to hear from Mr. -- well, I
   3         don't.  We'll let Judge Beach hear from this fellow,
   4         Mr. Bunker, to see if one of his concerns might not
   5         have been that these orders had something to do with
   6         his blessed little tapes.  And if he said they do,
   7         oh, boy, you are in trouble.

   8              Here.  Take this matter before Judge Beach.

   9         And if you don't send this matter to the Bar, I
  10         will.



More news to me, but not any kind of suprise, is that the cult has a
video camera trained on the Trust's door, which has a motion detector so
they can video tape everyone going in and out. Mr. Moxon is a cult
lawyer:

  13              MR. DANDAR:  Could we have Mr. Moxon explain
  14         what the "alarm" flashing in the bottom left corner
  15         is every time someone walks out of the Lisa
  16         McPherson Trust?

  17              MR. MOXON:  Yes, it's a motion detector in the
  18         guard booth.  We can stop the video here.  Stop it.

  19              This is -- I'll answer the question and tell
  20         what is on the shot.

  21              MR. DANDAR:  I just want the record to show
  22         there is an "alarm" word that appears every time
  23         someone comes in or out of the Lisa McPherson Trust,
  24         which means the Church of Scientology is focusing
  25         its motion beam on property that it does not own or
   1         control.

   2              MR. MOXON:  There have been -- as you are
   3         aware, your Honor, there is an injunction ordered by
   4         Judge Penick because a lot of people have been
   5         coming out of the Lisa McPherson Trust there, and
   6         they were enjoined from coming down that sidewalk at
   7         that -- at that point.

   8              So, absolutely right, there was an alarm that
   9         went off in the guard office when somebody would
  10         come from LMT over toward the Church, at a place
  11         where they are enjoined from coming.

  12              THE COURT:  Well, there wasn't anything to
  13         enjoin them from coming out any place where they
  14         have been coming.

  15              MR. MOXON:  No, but if they come further --

  16              THE COURT:  Well, the alarm has gone off and
  17         they have not been coming further.

  18              MR. MOXON:  At any rate, it is just a screen,
  19         it goes off -- shows it on the screen.  It goes off
  20         in the booth there, so they know --

  21              THE COURT:  In fact, it goes off whenever
  22         somebody comes outside of the LMT, doesn't it?

  23              MR. MOXON:  Yes, it just goes on the screen.

  24         It's not an actual alarm, you realize.

  25

   1    BY MR. MOXON:

   2         Q    In any event, there was a hearing that started --

   3              THE COURT:  You were purposefully filming
   4         everybody that went in and out of the LMT, weren't
   5         you?

   6              MR. MOXON:  That is right.  Absolutely right.

   7         There was an incredible amount of harassment,
   8         intimidation, threats.  I can go on and on, you
   9         know --

  10              THE COURT:  I just really wanted an answer to
  11         that.  I didn't ask for an explanation.  I didn't
  12         say there was anything wrong.  I just wanted to
  13         know, if the alarm was not going off and somebody
  14         was getting close to the church property, or it was
  15         going off when somebody was walking out of LMT --

  16              MR. MOXON:  Okay.

  17              THE COURT:  -- in these pictures.  I don't
  18         know, there might be other pictures where something
  19         is different.  But in these pictures, it appears the
  20         alarm -- the "alarm," that thing on the bottom, you
  21         will have to have somebody authenticate, I don't
  22         even know what that means.

  23              MR. MOXON:  We'll have somebody come in to
  24         authenticate --

  25              THE COURT:  But what I see down in the bottom,
    1         "alarm," it appears to be going off when somebody
   2         walks outside the door of LMT.

  3              MR. MOXON:  Okay.

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