In Scientology, "Black Propaganda" is used in an attempt to destroy social values of real or imagined enemies and to deprive them of friends and support. All Scientology needs in this endeavor is an enemy.

Scientologists belong to a group which is constantly on the look-out for the source of an imagined world conspiracy. One of the locations of world conspiracy, according to L. Ron Hubbard, is Leipzig, Germany. By the way, and this is sheer coincidence, Leipzig is also the site of the presentation of the Alternative Charlemagne Award to Scientology opponent Bob Minton.

One of the diverse ways in which Scientology has arguably become the most despised religion of the last century is its use of "Black Propaganda," as defined in detail by its founder and sole prophet, L. Ron Hubbard in his "PR Series Nr. 18 of 21 November 1972." That is one of the secret documents which Scientology uses the copyright law to keep off the internet, so I am just going to use parts of it in paraphrase. Scientology certainly does not have the copyright on black propanda; it is used by all cults and is known in the political world, which is where it belongs, as "negative campaigning."

So when a Scientology opponent, such as Bob Minton for the time being, is shown appreciation for his work in supporting certain social values (see http://alt-charlemagne-award.de), anti-critical response can be expected to come from the general direction of cult supporters.

So far it has been insinuated/stated that:

1. The award announcer is being paid by Bob Minton for the award.

2. Bob Minton is a criminal.

3. The award is supported by person with a record.

4. The award makes no sense, i.e., has no value.

5. Since Lisa McPherson Trust members support the award, Bob Minton is really just giving the award to himself.

6. Since some members of the award committee are members of a group in Germany, the award committee is just a front group for somebody else.

7. The award committee consists of anti-cultists issues worthless awards.

8. The award committee supports genocide by not supporting Clinton in Kosovo, the recipient of the Aachen Charlemagne award.

(I nominate the writer of that one for the most creative use of illogic award).

Beginning of paraphrases from L. Ron Hubbard, founder and sole prophet of Scientology from PR series 18:

Black Propaganda" (black = bad or derogatory, propaganda = spread claims or ideas with emphasis) is the expression which is used to destroy public opinion or respect of persons, corporations or nations.

It is a practical tool of forces who are trying to destroy real or imagined enemies or who want to obtain dominance in an area.

This technology attempts to so disparage a reputation that the person, corporation or nation is refused every right through "general agreement." It is then possible to destroy the person, corporation or nation with a smaller operation if Black Propaganda has not already done that.

Malicious and mendacious gossip of old wives was the earlier form of this tactic; it was so evil that, in some areas, they were put in the public stocks (neck chains) or driven out of the city.

In modern times, there is no keeping Black Propaganda in check. Legal proceedings for slanderous gossip are too expensive and too difficult to carry out, and the press law is so misused that anybody can use this kind of campaign.

All you need is an enemy.

[...] One is always running into people in society who do not understand very much. That expresses itself as sort of an evil joy about things. These people forward on slanderous rumors very easily. There are a great number of these people in an uneducated society. Since they are not able to read, the greatest part of knowledge has been denied them. And since they do not recognize very many words, they do not understand much of what is said to them.

But that does not just apply to the illiterate.

What they do not understand, they make up for in imagination.

Therefore such people do not only listen to slander, but they falsify and pervert it even more.

In this manner can a rumor that has no true basis go through society.

[...] No person, society or nation has a completely clean slate.

That has been reserved for saints. In their childhood people stole a couple of apples, broke a window or two, dinged a fender, took a joy ride with a "borrowed" vehicle or took a few pennies or a lollipop although it did not belong to them.

[...] All these things can make someone susceptible to attacks on his career or regarding his past.

[... In the next segment, it almost appears as if L. Ron Hubbard was describing himself, Scientology and Scientologists ...] The world is full of insane people.

The fundamental characteristic of extreme insanity is continuing attack: attacks on everything, attacks on persons or things which contain no threat.

Serious, not minor, crimes can be found at the root of such urges.

The attacker has an evil intention in life. He belongs to the dead, not to the living. And his harvest is a harvest of death.

Such a person has the feeling that he cannot be secure until all others are dead.

Their evil intentions take many forms and means of expression. The end product is the same - Death.

When an attacker has gone too far, then he is himself attacked. Long, bitter quarrels and wars between nations are both the mutual exchange of violence.

If an attacker does not have the physical means to annihilate others, and if his own goals would fail if they were to be exposed, then the attacks are conducted covertly.

He uses verbal propaganda, the press and other channels of communication to inject his poison. He hides himself as the source and he has his verbal attacks appear to be logical, real or proven.

[...] That is Black Propaganda. It serves to humiliate real or imagined enemies, to decrease their income to deprive them of friends and support.

---- End of paraphrases from L. Ron Hubbard, founder and sole prophet of Scientology from PR series 18. ---- ---- Summary of selected anti-critical messages:

May 8, "Mike McKean" asked if the announcer of the award will receive an increase in pay from Bob Minton.

May 10, "harold4567" asked what kind of activity (referring to the award committee) would like to be supported by [Anton] Hein, whom cults, especially Scientology, like to point out has a record in California.

May 11, "Dirk" who said he was from "East Germany" stated that the announcer of the award had "no clue whatsoever" and that Leipzig was the birthplace of psychiatry. (Scientology hopes to be viewed as a replacement for psychiatry so it publishes much negative campaigning in that regard.)

May 12, "dtomasino" changed the subject line to "human mange" award and asked if Bob Minton would be taken into custody in Leipzig for crimes [which Scientology is busy manufactoring on his behalf].

May 13-23, interlude: Scientology members have to go borrow money to go see "Battlefield Earth," which has been described some German critics as "cult psycho-torture" ;-) May 24, "minton_buddy" asks if it is not "kind of disingenuous not to mention that the group giving the award has mutual members with the Lisa McPherson Trust?" (Bob Minton founded LMT).

May 25, Cornelius Krasel worte, "I have no evidence for my allegation, but it appears to me that the 'European-American citizens committee for human rights and religious freedom in the USA' is as much a front group for anti-cultists as Narconon is a front group for Scientology.

Therefore, the prize is rather worthless."

May 26, Cornelius Krasel wrote, "The supporters are mostly a.r.s.

readers, from what I can see. The "committee" seems to be an outgrowth (I hope you prefer this to "front group") of the "Berliner Dialog" group (of which Mr. Gandow is incidentally the leader). I concede that the term "anti-cultists" may have been a bad choice but I couldn't think of anything better at that moment.

May 26, Diane Richardson wrote, "What has Robert S. Minton done to render "distinguished service on behalf of West European unification, humanity and world peace"? and "Actually, the Karlspreis is awarded to those who have furthered Western European unity. It is not presented as a human rights award. While you might find Clinton's efforts to stop aggression in Kosovo something to laugh about, not everyone shares your contemptuous attitude towards ending genocide."

--- Texts of anti-critical messages:

--- From: "Mike McKean Sr" <mikemckeansr@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton
Date: 08 May 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <01bfb897$dd694760$7fea1a26@compaq-lte-5250>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000507190450.142B-100000@darkstar.zippy>

Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Will that post get you a raise in pay from Bob?

Mike Joe's Garage <swatron@xenu.net> wrote in article <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000507190450.142B-100000@darkstar.zippy>...

--- From: harold4567@my-deja.com
Subject: Anton Hein once more
Date: 10 May 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <8fcnbe$515$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
If you check out this link http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de/ you will find that some people still add Anton Hein onto their lists of supporters. What kind of activity would like to be supported by Hein, one might ask...

--- From: dirkwjensen@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Human Rights Award for Bob Minton
Date: 11 May 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <8ffcd5$3ig$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000507190450.142B-100000@darkstar.zippy> <01bfb897$dd694760$7fea1a26@compaq-lte-5250> <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000509220153.112D-100000@darkstar.zippy>

X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 206.18.38.18 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu May 11 22:32:05 2000 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDdirkwjensen Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0C-NSCP (Win95; I) In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000509220153.112D-100000@darkstar.zippy>, Joe's Garage <swatron@xenu.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 8 May 2000, Mike McKean Sr wrote:
> ...
> Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in Leipzig,
> Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it was
> the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East Germany
> which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant, among
> other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
> members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the "field
> staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.
This, quite frankly, makes no sense to me. I am from East Germany originally, and this comparison is totally stupid. You obviously have no clue whatsoever.

The explanation about Leipzig having been chosen due to being the birth site of modern days psychology (Wundt) is a lot more logical, especially since half of the people connected to this award seem to have been psych patients at one point or another or are still on psych drugs today. I guess these puppets will feel more at home in Leipzig...

Dirk --- From: dtomasino@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: More on Human Mange Award for Bob Minton or will they take him in to custody in Leipzeg?
Date: 12 May 2000 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <8fh7ul$4ak$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000507190450.142B-100000@darkstar.zippy> <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000511195335.112C-100000@darkstar.zippy>

In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000511195335.112C-100000@darkstar.zippy>, Joe's Garage <swatron@xenu.net> wrote:

> Scientology is a totalist organization which has refined marketing, PR and
> staged events into a black art. Victims of Scientology and their
> relatives, however, will be happy to hear that one of the most active
> supporters of their cause, Bob Minton, will be receiving a human rights
> award for his efforts on their behalf.
>
> Minton will be presented with the Alternate Charlemagne Award in Leipzig,
> Germany on June 3, 2000. The city of Leipzig was chosen because it was
> the site of the first in a series of demonstrations in former East Germany
> which presaged the fall of the Berlin wall. This is significant, among
> other reasons, because of similarities between the "unofficial staff
> members" of the former East German Ministry of Security, and the "field
> staff members" of Scientology's Office for Special Affairs today.
>
> The award site is http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de.
Africa News May 1st 2000 "So far the second part of the investigation revealed that there were actually no Nigerians involved in the conspiracy with the IMF and World Bank that seems to have been colluding with Robert Minton and a few of his front companies and individuals who manipulated the Nigerian debt being traded on the secondary market. These two American bankers conspired with numerous American and international banks to run billions of dollars of Nigerian funds through this secret mechanism making hundreds of millions of dollars in undisclosed fees and commissions while diverting Nigerian funds into their own secret Swiss and Austrian accounts.

Are there positive aspects of the debt buy-back scheme? De Monte says:

"They did retire a lot of debt that Nigeria was under the burden of, however the problem is that they did not do it as per the terms of the contracts with the banks and debt holders that were originally involved and defrauded by the pair. They were involved in one of the most lucrative insider trading programmes".

The IMF and the World Bank were involved too? DeMonte: "The very same IMF and World Bank that are currently big news with various scandals being exposed worldwide. It's the same IMF and World Bank everybody falsely believes is this great big wonderful organisation that financially assists Third World countries in emerging markets and development programme. These financial institutions (IMF and World Bank) were set up to suppress Third World countries and keep them under control with money from the rich capitalist institutions that want to control the human and natural resources in these developing nations".

"Minton was quoted in the newsletter, Africa Confidential (31 March 2000) that he had "tacit approval" from the IMF and the World Bank to secretly defraud creditors and buy back Nigerian debt, both activities are prohibited due to the terms of the contracts that clearly state Nigeria has to treat all its debt equally so they can negotiate properly and above board in debt restructuring matters. However, what they did was to set up a secret mechanism so that they could go round and buy up certain specific debt, some real, some manufactured, to launder vast amounts of money while getting capital out of Nigeria. It was a very sophisticated operation run through certain bankers. For example, Chase Manhattan New York, Discount Bank and Trust Geneva, Bank Austria, Bank Boston, Morgan & Stanley Investments, GML (Growth Management Limited owned and operated by Robert Minton in London) to name but a few".

Fashanu interjects: "I am pleased to inform you that (Nigeria) government has acted swiftly and purposefully to freeze looted funds identified in our report as belonging to Mr. Robert Minton and others".

In Africa Confidential, Minton stated that Bank Austria formerly Osterreische Landerbank in London and Vienna was a large participant in the scheme along with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Morgan Guarantee in New York, and the Bank of International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland. We are now able to provide a comprehensive report that actually show the conspiracy between the banks and certain individuals."

--- From: minton_buddy@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: fl.general Subject: Re: Scientology opponent receiving award in Germany
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 22:31:06 GMT
Message-ID: <8ghl7b$2ao$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000522182333.114B-100000@darkstar.zippy>

In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000522182333.114B-100000@darkstar.zippy>, Swatron <ronsmuerto@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Robert Minton, who has been championing their cause in recent years,
>will receive a human rights award for his efforts on their behalf.
>Minton will be presented with the Alternative Charlemagne Award on June
>3 in Leipzig, Germany from a German based group called the
>European-American Citizens Committee for Human Rights and Religious
>Freedom in the USA. >... and has since
> expanded to include representatives from several communities around
>the world which keep watch on Scientology's activities.
Isn't it kind of disingenuous not to mention that the group giving the award has mutual members with the Lisa McPherson Trust? Seems to me like Bob is giving the award to himself. But I'm his buddy, I can see beyond the propaganda.

Bob's buddy --- From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Re: Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000524163510.117A-100000@darkstar.zippy>

Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:36:12 +0200
Message-ID: <c73jg8.enk.ln@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Joe's Garage <swatron@xenu.net> wrote:

> Robert Minton, a man noted for his public opposition to the Scientology
> Organization, will receive the first Alternative Charlemagne Award in the
> Federal Republic of Germany.
I have no evidence for my allegation, but it appears to me that the "European-American citizens committee for human rights and religious freedom in the USA" is as much a front group for anti-cultists as Narconon is a front group for Scientology. Therefore, the prize is rather worthless. Imagine Hubbard having received a prize from Narconon for his discoveries on drug addiction - everybody would start pointing out that this doesn't mean anything. The same seems to hold true for this "prize".

--Cornelius.

--- From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Re: Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000524163510.117A-100000@darkstar.zippy> <c73jg8.enk.ln@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de> <392DAFEB.BF978382@is.in-berlin.de>

Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:23:59 +0200
Message-ID: <fq8lg8.tlp.ln@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Thomas Gandow <gandow@is.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Cornelius Krasel schrieb:
>> Joe's Garage <swatron@xenu.net> wrote:
>> > Robert Minton, a man noted for his public opposition to the Scientology
>> > Organization, will receive the first Alternative Charlemagne Award in the
>> > Federal Republic of Germany.
>>
>> I have no evidence for my allegation, but it appears to me that the
>> "European-American citizens committee for human rights and religious
>> freedom in the USA" is as much a front group for anti-cultists as
>> Narconon is a front group for Scientology.
>
> No. Please do not redefine the meaning of "front group".
> A front group is a group where some people or another organisation is
> hiding behind.
> This committee *is* the real thing. All names are disclosed.
> There is nothing *behind* the committee, but there are more and more
> *supporters*, who are also speaking out in their own names and with
> their own names or known aliases.(See the list on
> http://www.alt-charlemagne-award.de)
The supporters are mostly a.r.s. readers, from what I can see. The "committee" seems to be an outgrowth (I hope you prefer this to "front group") of the "Berliner Dialog" group (of which Mr. Gandow is incidentally the leader). I concede that the term "anti-cultists"

may have been a bad choice but I couldn't think of anything better at that moment.

Well, I don't mind. I just want to put the thing into perspective.

--Cornelius.

--- From: referen@bway.net
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Bob Minton gets Human Rights Award in Germany
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:13:12 GMT
Message-ID: <392eaca6.12326316@enews.newsguy.com>
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On Fri, 26 May 2000 16:58:34 +0200, tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote:

>On Thu, 25 May 2000 20:53:42 GMT, referen@bway.net wrote in
><392d9266.24981424@enews.newsguy.com>:
>
>>What on earth is an "Alternative Charlemagne"? Is this some sort
>>of idiomatic expression that loses all meaning when translated?
>
>It is the Alternative Charlemagne *Award*.
What has Robert S. Minton done to render "distinguished service on behalf of West European unification, humanity and world peace"?

>Like the alternative nobel
>prize compared to the official nobel prize.
There is no "alternative nobel prize." There's an Ignobel Prize, however. I think the "Kid Charlemagne Award" would be a more appropriate distinction for Minton.

>There is an official
>charlemagne award which goes to Bill Clinton, for his contributions to
>human rights. (hahahaha!!!!)
Actually, the Karlspreis is awarded to those who have furthered Western European unity. It is not presented as a human rights award. While you might find Clinton's efforts to stop aggression in Kosovo something to laugh about, not everyone shares your contemptuous attitude towards ending genocide.

Diane Richardson referen@bway.net --------------------------------------------------------- Joe Cisar: http://cisar.org/rfs0100.htm Award site: http://alt-charlemagne-award.de Why would Gottfried Helnwein, one of the world's leading Scientologists, lie? See http://members.tripod.com/German_Scn_News/has00.htm

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