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Anne Marie Woodward

Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 5:04 pm:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear All,

I worked at Middle Management and events to me were a bit of a nightmare because we knew that after the event, we would have to be on "sales". And if we didn't make sales, it was big trouble for us! So, after a while, I got myself assigned to the "feedback team". This was a team that was responsible for getting "good feedback" from the public after the event. We would run around, not unlike the survey team, and ask questions about how people enjoyed the event, etc. We were really looking for not just "I loved it" and that kind of thing, but life-changing comments like, "Seeing this event, I have decided to buy my whole Bridge" or "join staff" or "go full-time on training", etc. Then this team that I was on, would type all of this feedback into a document which was sent up to Int Management (heck, some of you may have been on the Int Management end of it and reading/receiving those documents!). We wouldn't write down the negative feedback, just glean the good stuff from the public.

But here's the real big one that I wanted say. We all know about and talk about all of those "great stats" they show at the events. Well, I was the very person in charge of locating such "great stats" when an event was being prepared.

I was specifically asked to find the ones that looked great, preferrably on a long-term trend. This is why you see stats that look good.

Sometimes I was hard-pressed to find some that looked good. I had to dig through and find them. I remember one time I couldn't find but a couple of stats. It was not easy to find great and stellar stats because many of the international stats sucked or were downtrending. Or they spiked and then crashed again (as after a release).

And sometimes if you put a graph on a short-term trend, it would look "great" (like 12 weeks instead of 52) and that would be used.

Anyway, this is just an interesting tid-bit. My main comment being, there were not a lot of great stats to find (which made this part of my job hard sometimes).

So, yes -- there is someone in Management looking for those "good stats" to be shown at events. But don't let the "good stats" which was shown fool you -- most of the stats didn't look too good.

Love, Ann Marie

Subject: More information on stats

http://discus.xenu.net/discus/messages/4375/12651.html?1117031382#POST129212

From: Anne Marie Woodward
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:29 pm:

Dear Chuck, Well, well! Thanks. I do have a lot of info. I have my cup of coffee here and I'm ready to "knuckle down" and fill in the answers:

1) FSO(Flag Service Org) GI weekly (was it still over 1 million per week on average)?

YES. THEY WERE OVER BUT ONLY JUST. I THINK THE AVERAGE WAS ABOUT 1.3.

2) SO Orgs GI combined (2-4 million per week)? And which orgs are included in it, still include CC Int in the Sea Org Orgs category?

CC INT WAS NOT INCLUDED. FROM WHAT I RECALL, THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE THAT THE }SO GI WAS NOT MUCH MORE THAN THE FSO GI. IT WAS ABOUT 2 MILLION.

3) Any IAS stats, or are IAS stats totally separate?

I NEVER HAD ACCESS TO ANY OF THESE STATS.

4) Do you know if the IAS Membership offices in the CLOs are each contributing to the CLO weekly income, like the FSSC and Freewinds Cont offices both kick in money to the CLO they are next to weekly?

NOT THAT I KNOW OF. I BELIEVE THE IAS FUNDS WENT DIRECTLY TO IAS INT LEVEL. I DON'T THINK THE CLO SAW ANY OF IT.

5) Div 6 to Div 4 stats, the moving of people from Div 6 to Div 4.

VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY. GOSH, I WISH I COULD RECALL THE FIGURES! I KNOW THEY WERE OFTEN FALSE REPORTED AND PADDED -- PEOPLE WERE COUNTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN SOME ORGS AND THIS CAME UP IN CORRECTIONS A LOT. I JUST DON'T RECALL BUT IT WAS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. I'LL BRAINSTORM ABOUT THIS.

6) How was HGB (Hollywood Guarentee Building where Scn middle management worked) pay? Were WISE staff still getting a wog salary or Sea Org base pay?

HGB STAFF WERE PUT ON FULL PAY WHEN RITA SCHWARZGRUBER WAS PUT BACK ON AS CO FLO AFTER RON NORTON WAS REMOVED (OR AS WE WERE TOLD, WENT BACK UPLINES). HE HAD US ON QUARTER OR NO PAY ALMOST HIS ENTIRE TENURE (FROM 1996 TO 2001). SHE HAD US ON FULL PAY EVERY WEEK ($50.00 A WEEK, WHICH CAME TO ABOUT $46 AFTER FICA). THAT WAS ONE OF HER GOLDEN RULES -- PAY THE STAFF.

YES, WISE WAS STILL BEING PAID A WOG SALARY. MY HUSBAND AT THE TIME WAS IN WISE, AND THAT'S WHAT HE GOT. WISE STAFF STILL HAD TO PAY THEIR BERTHING, FOOD, ETC. I ASKED MY HUSBAND AT THE TIME IF THAT STILL MEANT THAT THEY HAD MORE MONEY AFTER IT WAS ALL LEFT OVER AND HE SAID THAT DEFINITELY, YES, THEY ENDED UP WITH A LOT MORE THAN THE OTHER SEA ORG MEMBERS ON FULL PAY.

7) Was HGB Sea Org base pay pretty stable, or lots of partial pay weeks?

LOTS OF PARTIAL PAY WEEKS UP UNTIL RITA TOOK OVER AS CO FLO, AS I SAY ABOVE.

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN RITA WAS PUT BACK ON AS CO FLO, NETTY ALLCOCK WAS PUT ON AS CO CMO IXU (SHARON JOHNSTON WAS CO CMO BEFORE THAT). IT ALL HAPPENED AT ONCE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE HGB ORGS DID BETTER UNDER A "NON-COMMAND TEAM" TEAM. THE COMMAND TEAMS FAILED TIME AFTER TIME. EVERYBODY LOVED RITA -- BUT NOT EVEN SO MUCH AS THEY HAD LOVED MARIETTE LINDSTEIN WHEN SHE WAS CO FCB.

8) How's the HGB food? I heard it got worse than PAC's actually, someone from PAC told me that HGB food sucked compared to PAC's food.

OH MY GOD! I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS. IN 1989 WHEN THE FCB LEVEL ORGS MOVED INTO THE HGB, THE FOOD WAS THE BEST IN ALL OF PAC. THAT WAS THE ENVY OF EVERY OTHER ORG. GRADUALLY, YEAR BY YEAR, IT GOT WORSE AND WORSE (ESPECIALLY UNDER RON NORTON). THINGS WERE DROPPED ONE AT A TIME. FIRST IT WAS THE COFFEE IN THE MORNING AND CREAMERS (HAD TO GET COFFEE IN THE CANTEEN). THEN THE JUICE (SO WE ONLY HAD WATER AT EVERY MEAL) WAS DROPPED. THEN BUTTER WAS REPLACED WITH MARGARINE. AND AT THE SAME TIME FOOD QUALITY WENT DOWN, DOWN, DOWN. THE GALLEY STAFF JUST SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE A BETTER MEAL FOR THE CREW. THE EGGS IN THE MORNING WERE INEDIBLE (MADE BY CRACKING A BUNCH OF EGGS IN A PAN WHICH WAS "COOKED" OVER BOILING WATER UNTIL THEY TURNED INTO SOMETHING LIKE A SOFT BRICK) AND THUS I STARTED THE "CHEETO CLUB". I FOUND THAT PUTTING CHEETOS ON THE EGGS SOLVED THEIR AWFUL FLAVOR AND CONSISTENCY. A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE JOINED MY CLUB. YOU COULD HAVE EGGS OR MUSHY OATMEAL FOR BREAKFAST -- EVERY FRIGGEN DAY OF THE WEEK. LUNCHES WERE USUALLY COLD CUTS (NEVER ANY CHEESE) AND DINNERS WERE LACKING PROTEIN MOST THE TIME. THEY WERE OFTEN RICE WITH SOME KIND OF VEGETABLES FLOATING IN IT OR INEDIBLE MEAT OF SOME KIND (AND MIND YOU, I'M NOT A PICKY EATER). AND THIS IS HOW YOU GET DOWN TO 105 POUNDS VERY EASILY! THE FOOD JUST GOT WORSE AND WORSE AND SO GRADUALLY THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE EVEN NOTICED. BUT I DID AND KEPT WRITING REPORTS, BUT NOTHING CHANGED OR GOT BETTER.

9) How about the Sea Org Recruits stats?

I THINK THERE WERE 3 OR 4 PER WEEK.

10) How are the Class 5 org recruit stats?

AWFUL. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER FIGURES EXACTLY. BUT THEY WERE DEFINITELY NOT UPTRENDING. I BELIEVE WEEKLY THEY WERE ROUND ABOUT 10-15 INTERNATIONALLY. BUT THE OVERALL NUMBER OF STAFF WAS NOT INCREASING MUCH, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE BLOWING OR LEAVING. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE FIGURE WAS FOR NUMBER OF STAFF INTERNATIONALLY. SEEMS LIKE IT WAS ABOUT 8,000 BUT I COULD BE WRONG. THIS INCLUDED SO MEMBERS AS WELL.

How's the OFO system still going? Remember David Hartley, and is he still over at CC Int. David was such a nice great person. Remember when he used to run the OFO system. Remember the Gold system that tried to be like the OFO system?

OF COURSE I REMEMBER THE OFO SYSTEM. IT WAS UNDER ME AS THE DATA AIDE FB FOR YEARS AND I HAD IT GOING PRETTY WELL. BUT THEN IT WAS PUT UNDER FB WHEN THE RE-ORG (NEW ERA OF MANAGEMENT) OCCURRED AND ONLY FB STAFF COULD BE OFOS. I REMEMBER COB COMING TO INSPECT AND ASKING WHY ALL OF THE FLO STAFF WERE OFOS. HE SAID THAT IT WAS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE UNDER FB. SO THEN ONLY FB (ABOUT 40 PEOPLE) WERE ALLOWED TO BE OFOS. THIS WAS THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE ORDER AND WAS NOT EVEN BASED ON ANY FACT. WHEN THE OFO SYSTEM WAS CREATED, FB WAS A 7 DIVISION ORG (BASICALLY WAS THE FLO) AND ALL WERE OFOS. THIS KILLED THE RESOURCES OF WHO COULD BE OFOS AND THE OFO STATS CAME CRASHING DOWN. SHER KLIMA WAS THE OFO OFFICER WHEN I LEFT AND SHE EVEN HAD TO HAVE PROGRAMS CHIEFS BEING OFOS (WHICH WAS A NO-NO ACCORDING TO THE ISSUE ON OFOS). I TOLD HER POINT BLANK THAT COB MISUNDERSTOOD THE OFO SYSTEM AND WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OFOS AND THAT SHE SHOULD QUERY IT AND CLARIFY IT, BUT I THINK SHE WAS TOO AFRAID.

I REMEMBER THE OGOS -- THEIR LETTERS WERE AWFUL FORM LETTERS THAT DIDN'T REACH ANYONE. THEY WERE WORSE THAN OFO LETTERS. THERE WERE STILL SOME GOOD OFOS, BUT MAINLY THEY WERE USED TO STAT PUSH AND NO LONGER DID ANY KIND OF DATA COLLECTION OR THEIR STANDARD FUNCTIONS.

I REMEMBER APRIL HALL, TOO. I WAS IN CCB AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS UNDER INCOMM (FROM 1988) AND THEN IN 1990 I WENT OVER TO THE FB AND BECAME THE DATA AIDE AND WAS DATA AIDE UNTIL THE RE-ORG IN 1996 WHEN DATA WAS FLO. THEN I WAS THE DATA DISTRIBUTION AND UTILIZATION OFF UNTIL 2002 WHEN I LEFT.

IT'S GOOD WHEN YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS, BECAUSE IT HELPS ME REMEMBER. THEN WHAT I HAVE TO ANSWER OR SAY IS NOT SO VAST AND UNCONFRONTABLE.

Love, Ann Marie

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