ESTATE OF LISA MCPHERSON, by and through the Personal Representative, DELL LIEBREICH
Plaintiff
vs.
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY FLAG SERVICE ORGANIZATION, INC., JANIS JOHNSON, ALAIN KARTUZINSKI; and DAVID HOUGHTON, D.D.S.,
Defendants
Case No.: 97-01235
VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF URSULA CABERTA
CONFIDENTIAL
Reported by:
Susan D. Wasilewski, RPR, CRR July 25, 2000
[...]
Mr. Moxon: [...] You say you support religious freedom?
Ms. Caberta: Yes.
Mr. Moxon: But part of your mission -
Ms. Caberta: With full heart.
Mr. Moxon: Oh, but part of your mission for the German government is the genocide of Scientology, isn't it?
The Interpreter: Did you say genocide?
Mr. Moxon: Yes, genocide of Scientologists.
[...]
Mr. Merrette [sic]: You might also try Holocaust or Shoah so she gets an idea of the dispropotion of the analogy.
Mr. Moxon: What did she say?
Ms. Caberta: That is no my job.
[...]
Mr. Moxon: Would you like to see all Scientologists dead?
Ms. Caberta: (untranslated)
Mr. Moxon: Most Scientologists dead?
[...]
The Interpreter: I did say no.
[...]
Mr. Moxon: Do you want Scientologists to be dead, that's the question?
Mr. Dandar: Objection; asked and answered.
Mr. Moxon: Do you want all Scientologists dead, yes or no?
Ms. Caberta: No.
Mr. Moxon: Do you want all Scientologists live as Scientologists?
Ms. Caberta: Yes, because I am not wishing them dead.
Mr. Moxon: As long as they don't stay Scientologists, correct?
Ms. Caberta: That's wrong. If people want to stay with the Scientology, then that's what they should stay.
[...]
From: Tilman Hausherr <tilman@berlin.snafu.de>
Subject: Re: Kendrick Moxon draws parallels - Kendrick Moxon zieht Parallelen
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:54:29 +0100
Organization: The 1.1 Communications Company, Inc.
Message-ID: <efj6vukq427farvodr5cglvfu2ati7mgs7@4ax.com>
On 7 Dec 2002 07:38:34 -0800, martinottmann@yahoo.com (Martin Ottmann) wrote in <71d327bb.0212070738.5f6cd280@posting.google.com>:
>Ms. Caberta: That's wrong. If people want to stay with the
>Scientology, then that's what they should stay.
>
>[...]
Moxon is applying scientology policy:
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PGM SNOW WHITE
PROJECT COAL
SWOT NO. 27 West Germany
The Federal Republic of Germany is peculiarly sensitive to a charge of GENOCIDE as the Nazi behavior against Jews provided the impetus for the Convention. The country bends over backwards to mend its reputation as criminals. It is a signatory.
(...)
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These "Genocide" accusations were also done by Heber Jentzsch in 1984 about the raid in Munich. He called the raid (in which nobody was killed or arrested) an "act of genocide".
Tilman
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