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Subject: Another court on Scientology's "lying and cheating"
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:04:32 -0500
Organization: OSA Perhaps The Most Malignant Group on Usenet
ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote:
>" [16] Any party whose tenets include lying and cheating in order to attack
>its 'enemies' deserves the results of the risk which such conduct entails."
Ptsc
Agreed.
And thanks.
======================
Seeing through OSA Deception
Revised: February 19, 2001
All is not what it seems here.
You can discover that very quickly, by learning from me. Or . . . if
you prefer, you can find out the hard way, by taking the one or more
of the many OSA operatives here at face value and ending up led around
by the nose.
Keep in mind that OSA is Scientology's Gestapo. Much, if not *most* of
what you see on ARS are OSA operatives --- many posing as Scientology
critics and ex-Scientologists --- having staged conversations with
their fellow OSA operatives.
The basic strategy and patter for such conversations is found in
super-secret "OSA/RTC eyes only" policy letters and packs.
It works like this. OSA has some kind of misinformation it wants to
shove down people's throats. But it knows it can't do it overtly,
because if it does, it will meet resistance. It's got to be sneaky.
- - From L. Ron Hubbard, OSA inherited the master manual on sneakiness.
Typically, one OSA operative will do a setup for a second operative so
the second operative appears to be merely expressing agreement,
elaborating on a theme, or answering an innocent request. Never does a
single operative list all of what OSA wants you to agree with. One
operative hints at it, another adds elaboration, then many more come
in and agree. And you, the reader --- who doesn't know what's really
going on --- are supposed to agree too.
So . . . is that what you want? To be tricked into agreeing?
If not, read on.
The disturbing fact is, OSA has been here on ARS, in significant
numbers, for a long time. In a continuing effort to cover up or
discredit certain facts, theories, or stories about Scientology, OSA
operatives post hundreds of messages and replies per week. Only a few
of them will openly acknowledge Scientology affiliation. As for the
rest . . . it's unmitigated hypocrisy, covert and nasty all the way.
===
Scientologists say they offer truth. But what is truth, anyway? As far
as motivation is concerned, truth is that which should produce rewards
in exchange for belief. This is why people believe in "truth", and act
on it. Scientologists are Scientologists because it has been
sufficiently demonstrated to them that faith in LRH fiction produces
rewards. And they will remain Scientologists as long as they agree
those rewards will continue. This is what it is to become a
Scientologist. Fostering, maintaining, restoring, and defending this
agreement is the purpose of OSA, Scientology's Gestapo.
OSA operatives, like other Scientologists, understand that agreement
with something fosters an affinity for it and vice versa. People like
what they agree with and they agree with that which they like.
OSA's, like other Scientologists, also understand the concept of
achieving goals "a little at a time". A little agreement is better
than no agreement. A little affinity for Scientology is better than no
affinity. A little hope in the possibility of rewards from Hubbard
fiction is better than no hope at all. OSA's understand that a little
can lead to more, and more can lead to more, and more, and more. They
don't mind starting small, on a single point. Therefore, in any
environment, OSA starts by searching for things its audience likes and
dislikes. They search for points on which to mirror agreement. Such
agreement need not be sincere. They mimic your ways and mirror your
opinions strictly to _get_ something. That something is your
obedience.
The "C" in the Scientology A-R-C triangle is not about imparting
information. For one person to communicate information to another
person who receives it, there's no need for the receiver to either
like or agree with what they've received. However, should the sender
wish to control the receiver without the use of force, then "affinity"
and a common "reality" are indispensable. Scientology A-R-C is about
insincerely mirroring an audience's likes and dislikes and mimicking
its ways. The "C" in "A-R-C" tacitly refers *not* to communication,
but control.
In a public forum, OSA encounters resistance. Not everyone has the
faith that Hubbardian fiction will lead to rewards and some are sure
it leads to just the opposite. The latter are Scientology critics.
Silencing such people is OSA's specialty. Oddly enough, they start in
their usual way, by finding likes and dislikes and points which offer
agreement. For example, if a critic believes there is something wrong
with Scientology, the OSA operative will find a general point of
agreement. If what the critic dislikes is "fraud", what the OSA
operative will dislike is "fraud". If the critic dislikes dishonesty,
the OSA operative will dislike dishonesty too. Always the goal is to
open the critic to Scientology commands, so that when the OSA
operative says "so-and-so is a fraud!", the critic either agrees or
falls silent.
For the genuine Scientology critic, given such dubious OSA
insincerity, detecting an operative in a public forum is not a simple
task. Not at all. Their persuasion is persistent, their tactics
subtle. If you overlook the details, if you consider just one or two
posts rather than a large sampling, you'll miss them, or worse, you'll
assume they're "like you".
The difference between an insincere OSA operative and the Scientology
critic is that the insincere OSA operative, underneath his or her put
up facade, wants you to believe that exposure to L. Ron Hubbard
fiction leads to rewards, while the Scientology critic believes such
material is ultimately harmful. This difference may not be readily
apparent. To differentiate an OSA operative from a genuine Scientology
critic, a new, expanded definition is necessary. OSA operatives intend
to foster, maintain, restore, and defend agreement that Hubbardian
fiction leads to rewards. But they fulfill this intent, for the most
part, by acting out confidential Scientology scripts. Given that
confidential Scientology scripts call for deception and insincerity,
this is where things get confusing.
===
To Each His Own
- - From the OSA perspective, audiences are divided into "targets". These
targets range from convinced Scientologists, through the unconvinced
general public, to "wrongly" convinced critics. OSA performances are
scripted to match the targets' tastes. We could say OSA's come in
various "flavors" depending on the tastes of their target audience.
OSA's are assigned to mirror and mimic each and every one.
===
Flavors
For the most faithful of Scientologists, OSA provides official
spokespersons who mirror their common likes and dislikes.
For Scientologists in the "free zone" OSA provides critics who agree
that "The Tech" is worthwhile, if applied "standardly" and "exactly"
and that the only thing wrong with Scientology is current management.
For the general, unconvinced, skeptical public, OSA provides
operatives who are skeptical of Scientology alternatives . . . but not
of Scientology.
For wayward Scientologists, OSA provides critics who agree on general
concepts --- fraud, dishonesty, theft etc. --- while disagreeing on
exactly who or what deserves censure or punishment.
For people that are against anything that smacks of "cult", or
"Scientology" in general, OSA provides cult "critics" who make a show
of professing Scientology to be "nonsense", or even "criminal".
For effective Scientology critics (Scientologists call these
"suppressive persons"), OSA provides it's own variety of "SP". The OSA
SP is acting as a "suppressive person" is supposed to act but directs
a portion of his hostility towards the people that sow doubts among
Scientologists. The OSA SP's intentionally dramatize the supposed
twelve characteristics of the anti-social personality, per policy "The
Anti-Social Personality The Anti-Scientologist".
For anyone who has caught wind of OSA mirroring and mimicry tactics
and is attempting to subvert them, OSA provides its own version of the
"clam sleuth" to help "expose" the Scientologist infiltrators.
===
Observed Traits
OSA's undercover phonies euphemistically refer to each other as "the
critics".
OSA's mirror anyone who refers to them as what they are. In other
words, accuse an operative of being what they are and they'll call you
"OSA".
Operatives will persistently defend one another against anyone who
accuses them of being from OSA. So far, they've not been observed
accusing one another.
The "critic" and "freezoner" flavor will post pro-Scientology messages
behind critical-of-Scientology subject lines. Or they will embed a
pro-Scientology message within critical-of-Scientology content.
OSA's agree with one another about upstat (effective), or prominent
genuine critics. Typically, they'll strongly agree that a genuine
Scientology critic is (typically) a "fraud", a "criminal", "crazy",
"loony", "insane" and a "liar", his/her works a "hoax", and as such
should be scorned and ignored.
Only an OSA operative will attempt to label a genuine critic "insane",
"criminal", "crazy", or "loony", or suggest the critic be confined to
a mental institution.
Only an OSA operative will attempt to label a genuine critic's works a
"hoax".
OSA's different flavors will display insincere disagreement with one
another to the point of exchanging insults. The attempt, apparently,
is to build loyalty with their target audiences. For example, "SP" and
"critic" Sten "anti-cult" Zerpe might slander "psych skeptic"
TravisSargent. Or "critic" Andreas Heldal-Lund might slander prominent
Scientologist John Travolta.
All OSA's of the "critic", "SP", or "clam sleuth" flavor are allowed
to disparage Scientology and management level Scientologists. It's all
in the interests of building and maintaining a basis for C_ontrol,
apparently.
OSA's of the "critic" flavor are allowed --- even encouraged --- to
conceal their identities by using character names and terms from
section OTIII of the Scientology story. It helps to keep beginning
Scientologists away from ARS.
OSA "SP's" or "critics" are allowed to post analyses of Scientology
written by psychiatrists, psychologists, and other non-Scientologists.
OSA's of any flavor will cannot write persuasive criticism of
Scientology. They cannot write a convincing argument as to why an
average Scientologist should get out of Scientology. They can post
something from OSA's entheta file, but otherwise they stick to single
sentences, symbols, and slogans.
OSA "clam sleuths" readily offer up a poorly cloaked operative as a
red herring to get the real sleuths off their trail.
OSA "critics" will throw out a previously revealed "sensitive"
Scientology document to misdirect attention from secret documents
being alluded to or asked about.
OSA's will put up a stonewall of denials, occasionally sarcastic, when
accused of being OSA.
Having no fear of OSA reprisals, OSA's will readily post their name
and address.
===
What They Post
What an operative posts seems to depend partly on the mood of his
target audience: does it need additional mirroring and mimicry of its
tastes and ways, or has it been sufficiently softened with "A_ffinity"
and a common "R_eality" to yield to C_ontrol? An operative losing
control will go to extremes to mirror and mimic. An operative in
control will use that control.
An operative makes a "cover" or "cloak" by acting out and expressing
insincere opinions.
To help understand them, we can split an OSA operative's activities in
two. They either:
1) establish and thicken their cover.
Or . . .
2) deplete and use up their cover.
They're engaged in an activity of type #1 when they post something
that makes them look like just another member of the operative's
target audience.
They're involved in type #2 activity as they make use of the
credibility gained in type #1 activities for the purpose of defending
Scientology.
- - From the reaction they get from genuine Scientology critics, an
operative instinctively knows how much cover he/she has remaining.
===
Control by Use of Revised Definitions.
If A_ffinity and R_eality are "in", control may be assumed by using
strongly positive- or negative-valued words to mean what the operative
intends the listener/reader to do.
For example:
"Sane" is used as meaning "Unable to penetrate OSA/LRH deception" to
imply: "If you want to be regarded as sane (not crazy, loony, insane),
you will not attempt to see through OSA/LRH deception."
"Honest" is used as meaning "Revealing one's vulnerabilities so OSA
can take advantage of them" to imply: "If you want to be regarded as
honest (not a fraud or liar), you will reveal your vulnerabilities."
"Ethical" is used as meaning "Doing what OSA wants" to imply: "If you
want to be regarded as ethical (not criminal), you will surrender to
OSA/LRH intent."
"Come clean" is used as meaning "Unable to withhold sensitive
information" to imply: "If you want to be regarded as clean (not
dirty), you will give OSA a big win and yourself a big loss."
"Victim" is used as meaning "Recognizing OSA's enemies are rational,
logical, and have a better argument" to imply: "If you don't want to
be regarded as a pathetic, whining, victim you'd better ignore the
good sense of OSA's enemies."
"Fraud", "criminal", "crazy", "loony", "insane" and "liar" are all
used as meaning "Able to penetrate OSA/LRH deception and willing to
talk about it" to imply: "If you don't want to be regarded as [the
common meaning of one or more of the aforementioned negative terms],
you won't dare to talk about the workings and/or operatives behind
OSA/LRH deception."
===
OSA Scientologists Follow Checklists
Typically:
1) Feign affinity and agreement. Agree with entheta terminal's likes
and dislikes. Run gentle 8-C as necessary.
2) If A-R-C per #1 not possible, attempt to repel entheta terminal by
giving it lots of what it dislikes.
3) If terminal not responsive per #2, conscript allies. Announce
entheta as originating from target audience opposition terminal or
Org. E.g. "[Name of entheta terminal] is OSA."
4) If target audience doesn't swallow #3, alter entheta terminal's
messages or create discreditable messages and post via a similar
address.
5) If improper response per #4, confuse identities. Rumor that entheta
terminal and his failed handlers are one and the same person. E.g.
"Dorian is ptsc".
6) If first no win per #1-5, retire losing pseudonyms by blaming them
on previously retired pseudonyms, which have themselves been blamed on
entheta terminals.
By following this checksheet, OSA can never lose.
===
Why They are Here
The ARS newsgroup along with the Cult Awareness Network, is where
Scientology reclaims its own. Slave states and groups, political or
religious, historical or modern, have always detested places where
runaways may find safe asylum. In the interests of leaving their
slaves no place to which to escape, slave states typically attempt to
infiltrate or dominate such places with spies, informants, and
provocateurs still loyal to the state.
Bolshevik Russia sought to surround itself with non-asylum states and
became, as a result, the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union sought to deny
runaways from border states asylum so up went the Iron Curtain. And of
course Marxist-Leninist political philosophy called for a global
workers revolution that would leave nowhere to go. Politically
sanctioned slavery has also been recognized in North America. It may
have been, in part, the presence of safe asylum in the North and West
that helped to drive the Southern States of 1860 to start the American
Civil War. The problem for isolated pockets of slavery is that no one
wants to be a slave. If there appears some better alternative to
slavery on the horizon, the slave is tempted to seek it out. And so
goals of eventual planetary domination are proclaimed, walls of
various sorts are built, safe asylums are infiltrated.
Scientology closely follows the pattern of its predecessors. As part
of its motivational constitution, Scientology has the goal of a
"Clear" planet, a place where the one and only asylum is Scientology
itself . . . and the entire human race has been pulled into a
Hubbardian delusion. In the meantime, of course, Scientology does what
it can to line itself with non-asylum "border states". Armed with
false affinity and insincere agreement, it apprehends its runaways and
brings them back in "chains".
Are you planning an escape, Scientologist? Are you doubting the
"truth" of L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology fictions? OSA's network of
informants and dirty tricksters is here, I can assure you of that.
Their job is to act like your "friend" . . . then betray you and close
your way out. They've been expecting you :-)
===
Though the hidden goal of Scientology is to shift control of society
to Hubbardian scripts, OSA operatives can also be discerned by looking
for more common instinctual and early-learned control behaviors:
Pointing (at that with which one must agree)
Denial (pointing at that with which one must disagree)
Distracting (E.g.: "DaNile is a river in Egypt" :-) )
Agreeing (amongst themselves, so you'll feel like the oddball)
Laughing (disdainfully, at disagreement)
Threats (first smug, then stern)
Orders (shouted as necessary)
Insults (shouted as necessary)
Nagging (repetition of the above for as long as necessary)
Whining (drop to lower tones if failure appears imminent)
===
Additional Logic
To justify my presence and effects on ARS, "Ralph Dorian" need not be
regarded as a real historical personage. Assuming Dorian to be
fictitious, then what I, the writer, am creating here on ARS, is, for
the most part, just mimicry and mirroring, same as OSA. One could say
that my job is to hold a mirror up to the mirrors. Hubbard was a
fiction writer. I'm a fiction writer. Hubbard designed a fictional
"reactive mind" that explained palpable reality. I designed a
fictional person whose story uncannily explains Hubbard and
Scientology. Whether fictional or historical, Dorian is an elegantly
effective solution to the problem of illustrating the nature of
Scientology while at the same time defending against personal attacks.
My assumption --- this all rests on an assumption --- is that the
merits of the solution are obvious. Maybe not at first glance, but
over time, they become apparent. I assume genuine critics would
perceive these merits and like what I am doing. I assume OSA would
not, not because they don't perceive the merits, but because they _do_
perceive them --- their own methods turned against them --- and don't
like the implications for Scientology. The only other basis for
objections is priggishness. And the only explanation I can fathom for
being unable to perceive the merits of the solution . . . is
extraordinary stupidity.
Imagine a public situation. A bully throws first insults, then open
hands and fists at a handsome and apparently well behaved
pre-pubescent child. The child cringes and yells "No!" repeatedly
before getting hit. People in the vicinity turn and look. The sight
and sounds have their effect. With every slap, grab, punch, or plea to
stop, people grimace, or wince. After some moments pass, as if a
hidden timer were ticking and suddenly goes off, someone rushes into
the scene. Now it's the bully who's in trouble. When he's down, his
arms are pinned behind his back in a way that makes him hurt. The
crowd spontaneously applauds. Now . . . this is what a normal crowd
should do. A normal crowd of people should enjoy seeing justice being
done. But what if it didn't work this way? What if the crowd got
angry? What if they hurled insults? There'd be something wrong with
that crowd. Very wrong, or at least with a few of its members. What's
the matter with them?, one might ask. Are they in cahoots with the
bully? Are they priggish about "interference"? Or are they just
extraordinarily stupid?
===
As a rough guide on addresses that represent themselves as
Scientologists (a.k.a. clambots), I offer the following list:
Mark <relay@cotse.com>
Mandible <Mandible_member@newsguy.com>
===
As to a rough guide on addresses being used by OSA bullies who
insincerely post to ARS as "skeptics", "free zoners", "critics",
"SP's", or "clam sleuths", I offer the following list:
AJ <AJ_member@newsguy.com> {active}
barb <bwarr1@home.com> {active "critic", "SP"}
Baron <aserbic@aol.comleaveit> {active "psych skeptic" }
Bob <bob@cotse.com> {active caricature of Bob Minton}
Boudewijn van Ingen <bogie@xs4all.nl> {active}
Bouncer <bouncer-no-spam@cotse.com> {active}
Boxingnut <boxinnut@home.com> {active "critic"}
Bremenium <bremenium@aol.comspamfree> {active}
Caswell <caswell@cotse.com> {active "psych skeptic"}
Cheradenine Zakalwe <zakalwe@nym.alias.net> {active "SP"}
Chris Leithiser <cleithis@bc.cc.ca.us> {active "critic"}
Concerned_Citizen@newsguy.com {active "skeptic", "critic"}
Dave Bird <dave@xemu.demon.co.uk> {active "critic"}
David "ptsc" Lebow <ptsc@my-deja.com> {active "SP", "critic"}
Diane Richardson <referen@bway.net> {active "critic"}
Dobe R Mann <dobe_r_mann@nospamsorclamshotmail.com> {active "critic"}
Donna Melendez <donnamelendez@aol.comnospam> {active rumormonger,
"skeptic"}
dorian@nym.alias.net {dormant caricature}
DorianAuthor@nym.alias.net {recently active caricature of Ralph
Dorian}
durian@nym.alias.net {dormant caricature of Ralph Dorian }
El Roto <findme@google.com> {active "critic"}
Feisty <not@inthislife> {active "critic"}
Garry <garry@newsguy.com> {caricature of Gerry Armstrong; active
"critic"}
gs1100 <gs1100@my-deja.com> {active "critic"}
Guillam <Guillam_member@newsguy.com> {active "psych skeptic"}
I.S.Rennie <LIP00ISR@sheffield.ac.uk> {active "critic"}
Jack Delad <jackde-no-spam@cotse.com> {active "psych skeptic"}
James Wood <gorillagoals@home.com> {active "critic"}
JLHartley <JLHartley_member@newsguy.com> {active "psych skeptic"}
kymus <kymus2468@aol.comnospam> {active "critic"}
lameduck@cotse.com {active}
LaserClam laserclam@aol.com {active}
lizabethdawn@aol.com (LizabethDawn) {active "psych skeptic"}
lmt_watch@my-deja.com {active "Lisa McPherson Trust skeptic"}
LRonsScam <lronsscam@aol.com> {active "critic"}
M. C. DiPietra <mdipietra@earthlink.net> {active "critic"}
Marc Taylor <Marc_member@newsguy.com> {active}
Mike " unusual" Rinder <them@no-spam.org> {active "critic"}
mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> {active nonspecific mimic & "critic"}
mirele@xmission.com (Mirele) {active "critic"}
Monica Pignotti <pignotti@my-deja.com> {active "critic"}
Nelson <nelsonjr@powersurfr.com> {active}
No User <no.user@anon.xg.nu> {active "freezoner" & mimic of doubting
Scientologists}
Patrick Light <plight@rocketmail.com> {active, rumormonger, "skeptic"}
Podkayne1 <podkayne1@aol.com> {active "critic"}
psychnews2000@aol.comStopSpam (Psych News) {active "psych skeptic"}
Ralph Dorian <dorian@nym.xg.nu> {recently active caricature for Ralph
Dorian}
Rebecca Hartong <praetorian@mgfairfax.rr.com> {dormant}
Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@virgin.net> {active "critic"}
Sam Carmean <sam55@primenet.com> {active}
sleddog <sleddog@cotse.com> {active "skeptic"}
Starshadow <starshadowis@home.com> {active "critic"}
Sten-Arne "Anti-Cult" Zerpe <The.Galactic.Federation@ThePentagon.com>
{active "critic", "SP"}
Steve Zadarnowski <fanjet@iinet.com.au> {active "freezoner" &
"critic"}
stillwaters@freedom.net {active "critic"}
Tampawog <Tampawog@aol.com> {active "critic"}
the_light@my-deja.com {active}
thinks4himself@my-deja.com {active "critic"}
Tim Walker <Golfguitar@aol.com> {active critic of Ralph Dorian}
Tommy <Tommy_Sp**gespam@Xs.net> {active "critic"}
travissargent@aol.com (TravisSargent) {active "psych skeptic"}
UnitSlayer <UnitSlayer@webtv.net> {active "critic"}
xenu@mindspring.com (Rob Clark) {retired}
xxxmisterearlxxx@aol.com (XxxMisterEarlxxx) {active "critic"}
yertletheturtle <yertletheturtle@my-deja.com> {active "critic"}
Zorrosblade..........Z <zorrosblade@earthlink.net> {active "critic"}
===
The Most Obvious Difference
OSA's attack anyone who could prevent Scientologists from "going up
the Bridge". This is what provokes them. The result is that OSA's
attack genuine critics FIRST.
You'll almost never see a genuine critic attacking a OSA operative
posing as a "critic" unless the OSA operative has first attacked the
genuine critic.
OSA's primary concern is the behavior of genuine critics. And it
shows. OSA's "critics" will criticize, denounce, and gripe about
genuine critics who can hurt Scientology.
OSA's secondary concern is defending themselves. This too, shows.
OSA's "critics" will criticize, denounce, and gripe about genuine
critics who have somehow hurt their fellow OSA operatives or impeded
their operations.
OSA's tertiary concern is keeping their cover intact by appearing to
"attack" Scientology. This shows in how they "attack". Embedded in
their own personal tirades about Scientology are tiny hints and
suggestions as to the value of it . . . which to them of course is
good.
===
Known OSA Operative = KOSAO, pronounced Koe-Say-Oh.
===
Traps
It is not a well-known fact, but Internet sites are capable of
identifying your "IP address" should you connect to that site. For
newsgroups, there exist "JavaScript" programs that can be embedded in
a plain-text news posting. Click on the post and the JavaScript will
activate a browser window that quickly and automatically takes you to
a site that identifies your IP address. With your IP address, OSA
knows your Internet Service Provider and with a phone call and a phony
story, they can easily find who you are. From there, they will inform
on you, get you fired from your job, sue you, kill your dog, or
whatever else they deem necessary to extract compliance.
For this reason, I strongly advise that you set your newsreader's
security setting to "high" or "restricted". And when visiting a
website that may have Scientology content of any kind, please spend a
bit of time and money to protect your identity with a service like
that found at http://www.freedom.net/ or http://www.anonymizer.com/.
For added security, pay for the service with a money order or cash.
Several KOSAO's have strongly objected to my recommendations of
anonymity when visiting these sites:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenuTV.com
http://www.users.wineasy.se/noname/multimed
http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/upper-levels/ot3.html
. . . which suggests they are traps.
Whether you visit them or not, know that the real secrets of
Scientology are not the "OT" sections. Scientology's secrets are
concentrated mainly in the super-confidential "OSA/RTC EYES ONLY"
policy packs and in the Dorian Interview Segments (of which eight so
far have been published). OSA's will die before surrendering a genuine
facsimile copy of OSA/RTC EYES ONLY policy. And they are doing their
underhanded nastiest to make sure what I have to say is "kill-filed"
or ignored . . . which should confirm what I'm telling you.
===
Unanswered Questions
After reading this, take a close look at OSA's alleged Scientology
"critics". Do a search on, say David "ptsc" Lebow's posts for the last
week. Count them up. Isn't it strange that someone would be so devoted
to a cause that they'd spend 4-16 allegedly unpaid hours a day year
in, year out? That's the kind of time it takes to do the reading and
writing. In their continual "stat" chase, some of them post literally
hundreds of messages and replies per week.
One might justly wonder, where do they get all that time?? Are they
independently wealthy? Are they on the dole? Or are they privately
funded by a secret second party? And if Bob Minton isn't funding them,
who is?
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My name: Ralph Dorian
My Address: <r_dorian@nym.alias.net>
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Date: Tue Feb 20 01:40:31 2001 GMT
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