ptsc wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:35:13 GMT, "FD" <fd@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> While I have no personal knowledge of the events described herein
> by Ford Greene (except Pamela Lichtenwalner's habits of bizarre
> accusations against various people including Ford Greene and myself),
> I feel obligated to state that Ford's characterization of Pamela's behavior
> is entirely consistent with my own personal experience.

I can make the same statement. What stands out to me is her malicious attempts to interfere with my life via phone calls and emails to people I was working with on projects that had nothing to do with her. Her accusations have a sameness about them; if you are not in Pamela's camp, you are either bipolar, a drug addict, or an alcoholic. Fortunately, none of her attacks bore fruit in my case.

Some of her attempts were rather humorous. Before she was banned from the IRC channel #altreligionscientology, she learned that I was scheduled to give a presentation to the Los Angeles chapter of the American Humanist Society. Upon learning that she had called their main office, spending over an hour ranting about my "drug and alcohol abuse," I emailed the organizer of the talk in Los Angeles to give him warning that he could expect a call from her. Several days later, I received a phone call from him, voicing his concerns that Scientology had learned of the talk. I assured him that Pamela was not a Scientologist, just a free-range loonytune whose behavior was certainly worthy of a dedicated sect member.

He told me that his friend answered the phone, listened for a minute, and passed it to him with the observation that "there's something wrong with this woman." He was then treated to an hour-long lecture about me and my evil ways. She told him I was a heroin addict and rabid alcoholic, and then offered to give the talk in my stead. As an indication of the depth of her knowlege of Scientology, she thinks 'Theta Art' is a Scientology course! Fortunately, he told her that I was already scheduled to give the talk.

Earlier, before she was banned, she had expressed intent on driving down from Stinson Beach to attend the presentation. She was fortunate to have been banned from the channel, as I had a few things to say after the phone call from the Humanist Society representative!

She also took it upon herself to phone the author of a book for whom I was doing the illustrations, telling them that the reason the drawings weren't completed was, well, the usual crap she spews. This interference was not associated with Scientology at all, it was simply a malicious attempt to fuck with my life and work. She knew I was working on the book because I was doing some of the illustrations at her house. >
> Most striking is her refusal to cease harassing people after they
> request she no longer contact them, and then her use and distortion
> of private confidences in order to attack people who cut off contact
> with her, her claims that she is "teaching" people various things
> (despite her own lack of any knowledge in the subjects in question),
> her disturbing attempts to meddle in the personal lives of people
> she barely knows, and her grandiose imaginings of prestige and
> social position. I have experienced all these things first-hand.

Indeed. There were some observations I made when I was up in Stinson Beach. She refers to herself as 'we,' as if she had a phantom committee following her around. Or a rodent in her pocket. I noticed that, when we were walking around town, she would make a show of hailing passersby on the street, as if to demonstrate the importance of her presence in Stinson Beach. Curiously, I didn't see the locals being too enthusiastic about stopping to chat with her. And nobody seemed inclined to attract her attention first. On the other hand, when walking back through town from the beach with my fishing pole, I was stopped by several locals who wanted to chat.

She came down on me for playing with some kids outside a restaurant. In Bolinas, it is apparently uncool to play with kids who are not yours. She said it was 'inappropriate.' She also said that, if I behaved as I was, "we won't let you play." Play what? Her game seems to be trying to gather allies around her, and slandering the rest. I don't think I like that game.

As a side note, she often chortles about how her "grandmotherly facade" fools people. That may be true when one initially meets her. But it didn't take us long to figure out that she is a major security risk. She does indeed use information given in confidence to attack people who don't agree with her. >
> My experiences with Pamela Lichtenwalner lead me to
> conclude that she is best avoided. Her gross
> misrepresentations of events and facts are so persistent
> and pervasive in any of her communications that she is
> either a pathological liar or highly delusional. In either
> event, anything she says can and should be disregarded
> as of little or no factual value.

>
> I find Ford's comments entirely credible, and even
> eerily identical to my experience and that of everyone
> else who I know who has had contact with this
> strange individual.

I thought the drama of her involvement with the critic community was fascinating as it unfolded. She was able to gain initial acceptance by her continued references to Margaret Singer and Ford Greene, people we all respect and admire. When she expressed concern over possible cult retaliation from her work with Narconon, I didn't hesitate to go up to Stinson Beach to keep an eye on things and advise her as to possible security risks, of which there are many. However, she chose to ignore my concerns, and I started to feel like I was some kind of monkeyboy there to do her bidding and listen to her delusional rants about Ford Greene and others.

I committed the sin of disobeying the Word of Pamela, by partying with some local anglers she had warned me to stay away from. Let's just say I consumed a LOT of beer that night! The next day, she dropped me off at the Oakland train station, 24 hours before my train, without any concern for my safety or well-being. Oakland is a raging pit of poverty, crack, and dispair. Jack London Square is a small island of upscale development surrounded by storefront churches, soup kitchens, and aging, low income residential hotels. (bathrooms down the hall)

So there I was, with my duffle bag, fishing rod and laptop computer, any of which some crackhead would be delighted to cut my throat for. She neither knew nor cared if I had money for a hotel room. Fortunately I did, and the Jack London Inn (bathrooms in every room!) was only a couple blocks away from the train station.

When I got home, and back on IRC, her game started to unravel. I learned that she'd attacked Ida, ptsc and Kady. I began receiving copies of emails about me that she'd sent out to other critics. Did she think that she was so important and popular that those people wouldn't contact me?

I found out she'd talked to my father the day she dropped me at the train station, spewing the same crap as in the emails. Shortly after that, she was banned from the IRC channel, which neatly removed her access to future information that could be used against the people there.

Pamela Lichtenwalner is definately best left alone. She is a horrible, malicious gossip who has no problem concocting falsehoods. Her overweening sense of self importance is worthy of L. Ron Hubbard; indeed, I think she sees herself as the critical movement's only hope, relegating the rest of us to scurrying around doing her bidding while she, the Trained Professional, commands us.

Fortunately, she is out of the loop and probably defanged. She'll have no more confidences to betray, no more inside information she can use to attack and discredit those who are actually accomplishing something. She obviously lives in an alternative reality bubble, in which we are not worthy of her presence. We are all incompetent, drug abusing, alcoholic, mentally ill people in a downward spiral. She, on the other hand, is a stable, highly qualified professional who was only trying to help us become better people. One who relies on a psychic, btw. A freakin psychic! The psychic must not be very good, or she would have warned Pamela from the getgo that stirring up a shitstorm is not a very good idea.

Recently, she seems to be reduced to issuing chatty "reports" to people who have asked her not to contact them, or who ignore her entirely. Apparently, she is still under the delusion that she is captain of this ship, issuing reports from the bridge to her underlings. I have no problem with that, any more than I have a problem with Barbara Schwarz's assertion that she grew up in a pineapple under the sea. Her vicious attempts to discredit people involved in exposing Scientology, however, are "not okay," as the clams are fond of saying. I think she is dangerously mentally ill. She will be seeking new allies, so if you get an email from her, your best course of action is to ignore it and hope she goes away. Or, you can do what I did. I flamed her ass, and haven't heard from her since.

This is true, <snip>

-- --barb Chaplain,ARSCC

"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance." This assistance might involve holding you against your will for an indefinite period, isolating you from friends and family, and denying you access to appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not, the release form absolves your caretakers of all responsibility for your suffering and death.

Welcome to the Church of Scientology."

--Dr. Dave Touretzky Peter Alexander

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