Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:05:59 +0000
From: andret27@pop.phnx.uswest.net
Like any concentration camp, gulag, or exile colony ever established here on earth, there is money involved. This is no different for the RPF. I had the opportunity to be in the REF for several years and have knowledge of what the economics of the RPF are. Each continental area where there was an RPF established, there were on going projects. These were mostly labor, construction, and maintenance. But the extent of these projects adds up to millions in free labor. To name some of the projects: Location: 19625 Gilman Hot springs Road, in Hemet California. Buena Vista house renovated, (LRH house) Laundry Room, Mid Res studio, LRH Studio, LRH Offices, Villas, RTC Offices, RTC Officers lounge, 12mic Studio, Large sewage disposal system, 16" diameter, water supply lines installed from well to 1,000,000 gal water storage tank, generator building, high voltage switching station, cottages for VIP's, Actors, and ASI executives, three story manufacturing building, a 40x50 x25 confessional file storage building, a 40x50 x 30 tape storage building ,a tape recording studio, a small cinema building, many miles of asphalt, miles of concrete, a maintenance building, a restaurant sized dinning hall, 2 story building for CMOI, In Los Angles: Los Angles Church (3 story building) American St Hill Church (4 story building) The Main building 7story building) Lebanon Hall (story building) Advanced Organization (4 story building) Publications Organization (large warehouse building) The LRH Museum (ist floor of 10 story building ) The US Management building (9 stories) Scientology building (10 story building) Clearwater Florida; Fort Harrison, Bank Building, and several more The above are in the US In United Kingdom: The Castle and a few others. Earlier projects on the Apollo, Excalibur, Castleholms,( these were the ships of the Sea ORg) So if you were to tally up the amount of $ that was saved because of the RPF work on the above projects you would see that it is no small amount and makes having and continuing the existence of an RPF economical to say the least. If you add the money saved on the maintenance done on the above completed projects by the RPF well the $ amount just keeps going up and up. Another area where the RPF was used to save allot of money was at 2 crusades the Portland and LA crusade. Currently what ever the RPF is doing you can bet it is saving $ that the Church would other wise have to spend on the services that a well established and well run RPF can provide. I hope this information will help you to understand that although the RPF has as a purpose to help those who have (while in the Sea Org) gone off purpose, or gone mad with opposition to the goal, AND OR have discovered that the invisioned GOAL does not match the Real Life Practice and see the organization for the fraud that it really is. Andre ps. say on the average there were approx 500 people in the RPF at any given time over the last 24 years. Say each was paid 10 per hour , 365 days a year doing the math the comes to a few hundred million in the last 20 yrs, well you can do the math as well. its an average. Of course this is no where close to the amount of money made by the Germans, Russians, and Chinese when their camps were in full swing. But the RPF has real potential and you can bet on the fact that the RPF will always be in one form or another.
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:22:43 -0400
From: Beverly Rice <dbj1120@ao.net>
Ed wrote: > Thank you for posting this, and thank God I didn't last long enough in
> the SO to get to the RPF stage because I surely would have been put in
> it.
That to me is a frightening thought. Kind, smiling Ed, having to be RPF'd :-( > I've said before, I think it bears repeating: confronting the C of $
> about their RPF makes them more uncomfortable than anything else,
> because they can't claim "you're persecuting my religion" or "you're
> ridiculing my religious beliefs" when you confront them about the fact
> of the RPF.
This is true. And regardless of what they may say, the RPF is ~punishment~ for ~not conforming~ to Hubbardian mind-set and rendering over your beingness to the dictates of Co$. The RPF is to make you clay, and form you according to Hubbardian image; you must become mentally pliable to the point that you become completely compliant to the dictates of Co$ dictated Hubbardian policy, ethics and orders from up-lines. > If I had lots of money I'd put up billboards in CW and LA just asking
> this: "Which church here puts members in the RPF?"
That is a good question. Answer: $cientology, the "Religion of Intolerance"!! > Nothing else on the
> billboard. I wouldn't define RPF. Everyone who didn't know what it was
> would be curious (and they would know it was about Scn) so they would
> ask until they heard what RPF means. And they wouldn't hear it from
> Scn propaganda about "religious retreat" or "doing penance" or the
> like.
Well, expect Co$ PRO's to post sooner or later about the wonderful benefits and gains to the RPF . . . where you get to figure out who and what it is you are . . . as long as the correct answer is "a $cientologist" . . . of course, according to Co$ dictated acceptable cog of what "a $cientologist" is. :-( ARC, Beverly
From: Monica Pignotti <pignotti@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Economics of having the RPF by Andre Tabayoyon
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:42:00 GMT
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Hello Andre. It's so good to see you posting here! Hope to hear more from you. You made some good points here about the RPF Andre and I were on Sea Org staff together at AOLA in 1976, the organization in Los Angeles that delivers the OT levels. He was the ethics officer and I was the Solo DofP (Solo Director of Processing). I left just before he was about to have me comm-eved for leaving my post. I left without telling him or anyone else. I'm so glad to see that both of us are free of this now. -- Monica Pignotti Disclaimer: The statements I make on this forum are an expression of my individual opinions. I do not represent any institution here.
From: mimus@znyp.com
Subject: Re: Attention Scientologists-heres an idea
Message-ID: <38fc99c2.3508079@news.zoomnet.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:23:28 GMT
confront23@aol.com (CONFRONT23) posted: >I will make a website for Scientology success stories. Send them to
>emailbackup@aol.com subject=success.
I know you like quoting authorities rather than using logic, so be sure to include the following quote, as a matter of basic honesty: QUOTE December 3, 1997 (2nd Draft) BRAINWASHING IN SCIENTOLOGY'S REHABILITATION PROJECT FORCE (RPF) Revised Version of a Presentation at the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion, San Diego, California (November 7, 1977). Stephen A. Kent (Ph.D.)
Professor--Department of Sociology
University of Alberta
<another big snip> 6. Success Stories For inmates attempting to complete the program, among the final, obligatory activities that they must do is write success stories about how the RPF transformed their lives. For years prior to the RPF program, Hubbard had in place an organizational requirement that Scientologists were required to provide glowing accounts of Scientology's benefits, so the requirement that inmates had to produce them about the RPF merely was following policy. With public relations in mind, Hubbard wrote in 1968:
[f]or purposes of distribution of Scientology and getting it into the hands of the millions, standard tech producing results and being broadcast by word of mouth by pcs [pre- clears-- people below a certain level of courses] and students is one of the best programmes. People who have not had the results or wins are not likely to assist distribution and indeed are a liability (Hubbard, 1968: 140 [emphasis in original]).Hubbard also realized that "win" stories provided invaluable information about how people felt concerning their Scientology experiences, so he wrote that "Success is the final police point of an org. All [s]tudents and pcs must go to Success before leaving an org even on a "leave of absence" (Hubbard, 1968: 140 [emphasis in original]). Success stories about RPF "wins," therefore, simply followed policy, and they also may have provided some protection in the future if former RPFers became critical of their incarceration in the program. Far less extensive in content or design than the final confessions that Chinese and Western victims of thought reform programs had to write for their "re-educators" in the late 1940s and early 1950s (see Lifton, 1961: 266-273, 473-484), the RPF succees stories nevertheless appeared to follow an outline or formula. In them, "graduating" RPFers had to acknowldge their alleged previous deficiencies that justifed their RPF assignments, praise the quality of Scientology instruction and training that they have received in the RPF, identify how this instruction and training combined with other aspects of the RPF to positively transform their lives, and thank Hubbard and the organization for their RPF experiences. A published RPF "success" story from March, 1977, illustrates the formula. A person identified only as "B.G. proclaimed that:
[t]he RPF is the most fantastic process LRH [L.Ron Hubbard] has yet devised. It's pure, no holds barred Scientology. And it's for real. When I walked in the door here several months ago the only thing I knew for certain was that there was no hope. I had totally and utterly betrayed LRH and all SO [Sea Org] [m]embers and Scientologists everywhere. And in so doing [I] had sold my future down the drain. ..... I found that, as an RPFer I had only two possible courses of action--Win, or die in the attempt, and I had 50 or so tough, dedicated, confront anything fellows making sure I didn't die. While I've been here I've received the best auditing and training I've ever had.... I'm about to graduate now. The greatest single win I've ever had in my existence I got right here. I know [that] Scientology works. I have total certainty on my ability to handle myself and others and on other's ability to handle me and others using LRH's Tech. And I know that the RPF is where it all comes together. It's where the RPF makes it and that's something. Thanks to LRH I have a future-- and a damn bright one too! (Sea Organization, 1977: [5]).END QUOTE REQUOTE Scientology works. END REQUOTE REQUOTE The RPF is where it all comes together. END QUOTE REQUOTE It's pure, no holds barred Scientology. END REQUOTE --
tinmimus99@hotmail.com "I saw many people reduced to incoherent babbling, stripping off clothes, crawling around on the ground, banging heads, limbs and other body parts against furniture and walls, barking, losing all sense of one's identity and intense and persistent suicidal ideation." -- Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon "If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists posting on the Internet every few days, we'll just run the SP's right off the system. It will be quite simple, actually." -- Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996) Case 5/BTLA/SP2
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