Spacetraveler wrote:

> "wcb" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> news:11aq7qbl2m2ksdf@corp.supernews.com...
>> I was scanning through some stuff and I reread part
>> of the 1989 Wollersheim opinion from the judge that
>> handled his case against Scientology.

http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/wollersheim/opinion-1989-07-18.html

>> I keep seeing Spaced Traveler ranting and raving about the
>> 1968 HCOPL cancelling "fair game" which it didn't.

> WHY ARE YOU IN DENIAL? IF IS IS CANCELLED IN WRITING IT IS NOT POLICY. IF
> IT IS NOT POLICY IN EFFECT IT IS NOT SCIENTOLOGY. PEOPLE THEN DOING SUCH
> THINGS ARE THEN NOT DOING SCIENTOLOGY!

>> Not only
>> did it not, but in the case of Wollersheim where CoS was sued
>> successfully for fair gaming Wollersheim, they actually argued
>> in court fair game was a core practice of Scientology and thus
>> constitutionally protected!
>>
>> This opinion dissects that claim at length.
>
> Opinion is ALL you got, from people who said something. You have not the
> FAINTEST idea what is to have been intern in that organization and how
> things actually work there. In my well over 20 years I HAVE NOT SEEN
> FAIR GAME PRACTISED, WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS STUPID PEOPLE DOING STUPID
> THINGS!!!!

1968 did NOT cancel fair game. Now if you said HCOPL 7 March 69, here Hubbard finally did publically cancel fair game policy.

Why is that hard for you to get right?

Yes. Fair game was NOT cancelled. It was part of the 1974 GO hat packs and Mary Sue and Hubbard knew that. Kember and Budlong knew it and admitted to the government.

In the Wollersheim and Armstrong cases, Scientology argued that fair game was a Scientology religous expression protected by the constitution. When Scientology argues in court that they have a right to practice fair game, not once, but twice, who are you kidding? This was not policy that came after Hubbard. It was a direct stream out of Hubbard and has been since Hubbard angrily demanded Scientologists bust up Amprinistics meetings and harrass Jacck Horner.

The 7 March 69 cancellation, was a public lie.

Mary Sue and Hubbard knew what was going on with Cooper and Cazares and others. It wasn't just one of those things that happened. It was policy.

And we had Allard, Wollersheim and Armstrong and others who won in court for in fact being fair gamed.

If it quack like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck and shits like a duck, its a duck.

Fair game never went away.

And at last count, they argued in the Wollersheim appeal up to 1989 that fair game is a Scientology religous expression protected by the constitution.

Present day management has NOT repudiated this offical Scientology claim made before an appeals judge.

The only thing here is, Hubbard for a few years from 1965 to 1968 didn't bother to wear a mask and hide his true policies. That is all it is.

When Nixon was elected, John Mitchel his attorney general looked the assembled press in the eye and said "Don't watch what we say, watch what we do." Well, we had Watergate.

And Hubbard and Scientology gave us 40 years of fair game.

As of 1989 its not been officially repudiated by Miscavige or Scientology and is still practiced when they think they can get by with it.

And its always been that way.

You are naive.

You watch what they say, not what they do. And its only what they do that counts. All this is about is who set it up so it was this way.

>> For those of you interested in fair game that haven't scanned
>> this, its an eyeopener. And then I realized. Just because
>> a judge told them it is not protected activity, doesn't mean
>> they dropped the policy even yet. They haven't publically
>> made that committment.
>>
>> So we still have unfinished business.
>
> If it is not in a policy letter it is not policy and therefore not
> Scientology. Yes, we are most definitely finished...
>
> Spacetraveler

You truely are naive. That is strictly for controlling the orgs. The big dogs at top don't prcatice what they preach because they aren't the sort of people they are preaching to.

It's a control mechanism for their minions strictly.

From: wcb
Subject: Fair Game and Wollersheim
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:59:25 -0500
Message-ID: <11aq7qbl2m2ksdf@corp.supernews.com>

I was scanning through some stuff and I reread part of the 1989 Wollersheim opinion from the judge that handled his case against Scientology.

http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/wollersheim/opinion-1989-07-18.html

I keep seeing Spaced Traveler ranting and raving about the 1968 HCOPL cancelling "fair game" which it didn't. Not only did it not, but in the case of Wollersheim where CoS was sued successfully for fair gaming Wollersheim, they actually argued in court fair game was a core practice of Scientology and thus constitutionally protected!

This opinion dissects that claim at length.

For those of you interested in fair game that haven't scanned this, its an eyeopener. And then I realized. Just because a judge told them it is not protected activity, doesn't mean they dropped the policy even yet. They haven't publically made that committment.

So we still have unfinished business.

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