Scientology --- The Stacy Moxon murder (Was The coming exposure)

The Stacy Moxon murder (Was The coming exposure)

HR-Defense@aol.com (Human Rights Defense (ShyDavid)) wrote:

>[**] The crime syndicate called an Emergency Medical Response
>Team in, first claiming a automobile accident had occured. Then
>they called in, claiming a building fire. In my opinion, they
>were planning on moving the body into a car and then setting it
>on fire, or moving the body into a building and setting it on
>fire..... but the person in charge of the cover-up moved too
>fast, got confused, and botched the job. (When a body is burned
>beyond recognition, it is not easy to move: parts fall off, and
>fluids spew about.) The presence of two human rights activists
>outside the cult compound may have added to that hurry and
>confusiuon. My speculation may be wrong, but it still requires a
>real investigation, by someone who is educated about Scientology
>Inc.'s criminal nature.
I never thought of that possibility. It could very well be that Ken Hoden (is that the right spelling?) who was the first crime syndicate supporter to come out and make you guys leave with him was trying to get you guys out of the way quickly before the authorities showed up so that they could move the body. Transporting the remains to a vehicle out on the highway and then setting it on fire would mean the crime syndicate would need a good 15 minutes of unobserved time.

The criminals placed their call about the car fire, found out you guys couldn't be duped into leaving the crime scene so that put the kaibosh on that sceme. They then tried a fall-back plan to dump her into a building and set fire to it, tried to move the body, found that they couldn't, then had no choice but to leave the remains and try to get a "shore story" down to lie their way out of the homicide, making sure that nobody admitted that she was in there being punished.

That explains the lies the crime syndicate called into the authorities with until settleing on their final version.

-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
about my mother! -- Scientology's International President

>I never thought of that possibility. It could very well be that Ken
>Hoden (is that the right spelling?) who was the first crime syndicate
>supporter to come out and make you guys leave with him was trying to
>get you guys out of the way quickly before the authorities showed up
>so that they could move the body. Transporting the remains to a
>vehicle out on the highway and then setting it on fire would mean the
>crime syndicate would need a good 15 minutes of unobserved time.
>
>The criminals placed their call about the car fire, found out you
>guys couldn't be duped into leaving the crime scene so that put the
>kaibosh on that sceme. They then tried a fall-back plan to dump her
>into a building and set fire to it, tried to move the body, found
>that they couldn't, then had no choice but to leave the remains and
>try to get a "shore story" down to lie their way out of the homicide,
>making sure that nobody admitted that she was in there being punished.
I doubt she was being punished because all I have been able to find out indicates she was a docile sort. But there are interesting aspects. The original call was to an ambulance company rather than 911. (It may be that the phone system there is set up so you *can't call 911.) The ambulance company called 911. The original tape of the call from scientology to the ambulance company could not be obtained without a court order and by now has been recycled and unless a copy was made. It is most likely lost. I mentioned getting this evidence to Tony Greer, but it was after he had been given orders by the DA to quit investigating this death.

>That explains the lies the crime syndicate called into the authorities
>with until settleing on their final version.
It is clear from the way the shore stories unfolded that they didn't have the squirrel story together until after the investigator did the first interview with the head electrician. Chances are very high that he was the one who was with Stacy when she went into the vault.

As mad as the story is, I think it is mostly true. Stacy did go into the vault to inspect for rodents. But she was *not* alone. It might not have even been the first time, but this time she fell off the unstable, partly opened stepladder into the hot wires.

Keith Henson >-- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
>not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
>about my mother! -- Scientology's International President

>hkhenson@cogeco.ca (Keith Henson) wrote:
snip >>As mad as the story is, I think it is mostly true. Stacy did go into
>>the vault to inspect for rodents. But she was *not* alone. It might
>>not have even been the first time, but this time she fell off the
>>unstable, partly opened stepladder into the hot wires.
>
>Then why all the shifting stories?
There is no strong evidence for outside shifting stories. I have what tapes there are, and the first call tape was not a public document.

All the statements are on the web plus the OSHA report. Read them (Someone post the URLs) The stories told to the OSHA people clearly documents that there was no original story ready. The head electrical guy, after staying he had no idea of why Stacy was in the vault comes back in about two hours with this vivid tale from the previous day. All of this is documented to where any competent investigator would be asking more questions.

But due to the cult's power of intimidating governmental agencies and the fact it was one of them, they will just get away with it.

>And where are the videotapes? You can't tell me that the power or
>emergency power station for "Gold" isn't surveilled, surely?
As far as I know there were none.

Keith Henson

Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

> HR-Defense@aol.com (Human Rights Defense (ShyDavid)) wrote:
> >[**] The crime syndicate called an Emergency Medical Response
> >Team in, first claiming a automobile accident had occured. Then
> >they called in, claiming a building fire. In my opinion, they
> >were planning on moving the body into a car and then setting it
> >on fire, or moving the body into a building and setting it on
> >fire..... but the person in charge of the cover-up moved too
> >fast, got confused, and botched the job. (When a body is burned
> >beyond recognition, it is not easy to move: parts fall off, and
> >fluids spew about.) The presence of two human rights activists
> >outside the cult compound may have added to that hurry and
> >confusiuon. My speculation may be wrong, but it still requires a
> >real investigation, by someone who is educated about Scientology
> >Inc.'s criminal nature.
First off, I object to your putting the word "murder" in the Subject: line. It was a homicide, not a murder.
Second off, it is pure speculation on your part what Hoden knew or did not know---- when you speculate, make damn sure you state you are speculating.

> Transporting the remains to a
> vehicle out on the highway and then setting it on fire would mean the
> crime syndicate would need a good 15 minutes of unobserved time.
The siren ran for aproximately 9 minutes, as far as I recall.

Department Twenty was sent out to make us go away a bit less than two minutes later. The first news team arrived about 7 minutes after that. In my opinion, your hypothesis fails on two accounts:

(1) the time frame is too shart to stage an accident, and (2) most cars do not burn when they crash. Or in other words, while the crime syndicate might have BRIEFLY thought about staging a car crash, they quickly abandoned that plan because it was not workable. To put a body in a car and have it slam into some obstruction, puncture the gasoline tank, and set it on fire could take 30 or 40 minutes.

> The criminals placed their call about the car fire, found out you
> guys couldn't be duped into leaving the crime scene so that put the
> kaibosh on that sceme.
Perhaps. We may never know.

> They then tried a fall-back plan to dump her
> into a building and set fire to it, tried to move the body, found
> that they couldn't, then had no choice but to leave the remains and
> try to get a "shore story" down to lie their way out of the homicide,
> making sure that nobody admitted that she was in there being punished.
That last part is my opinion, yes.

> That explains the lies the crime syndicate called into the authorities
> with until settleing on their final version.
>
> -- You love drugs! You love drugs, don't you?! You better
> not say anything about my mother! Don't you DARE say anything
> about my mother! -- Scientology's International President

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