Shiva can't write this. As a theologian she will not say nasty things about anyone's religious beliefs and as a (ready Dr. Paloma?) shrink she refuses to comment about Hubbard's sanity in a public forum. I don't have a bunch of letters after my name or a bunch of certificates hanging on my office walls (hell, I don't have an office) so I get the pleasure. :~) We at first approached inquiry from the posture of someone who might be interested in joining them. Of course, having discovered the e-meter very quickly we no longer worried too much that any of our people might fall prey to them. I mean, when your ancestors have been fooled by a white man talking about a guy in a white robe and it turns out he never met the guy in the white robe, you get real suspicious of white men talking about religion. White men talking about religion better only have meters on their dashboards and be thinking about pegging them on their way off the res.

The thing that gave us pause was Narcanon. The greatest social problem _we_ have to deal with is alcoholism so the notion that there might be people with e-meters impersonating qualified therapists was scary even if they were somewhere else. It turned out there was, in fact, a Narcanon facility on a reservation in Oklahoma.

Whether or not it is still there we haven't bothered to find out because we don't have standing. Once something is south of Terminal Moraine it becomes SEP.

This brings me to the scariest thing we discovered. The Narcanon facility that was (maybe still is?) on the res in Oklahoma did not have arrangements to detoxify addicted patients under medical supervision. (A person with a full blown alcohol addiction can easily go into convulsions and die going the cold-turkey route.

He can also suffer less conspicuous brain or nerve damage and spend the rest of his life saying, "duh" a lot.) We have read an account of a man who was "admitted" to the Oklahoma facility while withdrawing from Cocaine poisoning. He escaped before they did any lasting damage to him. All you active members of ARS probably know about it.

We suspect there may be other Narcanon facilities without so much as an RN in residence. We can only hope there are no judges committing chemically dependent people into "treatment"

in a Narcanon facility just because it's close by and has "church"

somewhere in the background.

Here is where we are at this point:

1) We believe the Surgeon General of the United States should request that congress conduct inquiry so that the threat to the health of U.S. citizens can be assessed. We also believe the BIA should make similar requests. The use of a device designed to measure nothing more than galvanic skin response, in what amounts to the practice of psychotherapy, speaks for itself. It isn't the Roman Catholic sacrament of penance, for God's sake, it's the flim-flam man with a gadget running around administering "personality tests." The AMA finds the MMPI useful as a tool and neurosurgeons love the MRI but a guy with an e-meter is an outrage far beyond the religious freedom granted by the constitution. The business about "...pass no law regarding...religion," doesn't even apply. It's about administering personality tests (and using a gadget that might tell you if someone's hands are sweating). It's about operating an addiction treatment center with intake procedures that bypass physicians. A true psychopath may go undetected because he found "help" and a "drunk"

might be a diabetic in insulin shock.

2) We believe you of ARS are winning. In every significant court case regarding CoS, anywhere on the planet, ARS pops up in the record. Go to Holland and ask about the Fishbank affidavit (or ask ARS where you can find a copy on the 'net).

Go to Australia and ask the Chief Justice what he thinks of CoS (then get into the records and you will find ARS mentioned).

This NG has given the hornswoggled and the injured both a voice and an opportunity to vent. There's a shrink around here who thinks that's a good thing. You're winning.

3) We believe you harm yourselves when you picket a CoS facility. It would be far more effective to picket the U.S.

Justice Department or the nearest District Attorney. When you picket a facility hiding behind the word "church" you look like the bad guy. If you break California law, your reasons for doing so might sound morally upright but they do not constitute an admissible affirmative defense.

About here Shiva would quote the Nazarene: "...if evil contendeth with evil, shall not evil prevail?" All that aside, you're winning.

4) We believe claims of copyright or religious "secret"

cannot stand in the face of testimony from past members of CoS who wish to talk about it. These, too, have religious freedom, including the freedom to unilaterally abrogate any illegal contract. Any contract which can be shown to block discussion of "scripture," the content of which is manifestly silly and untrue, cannot be enforced. The public has an over-riding right to know there are citizens in clear and present danger and past members of CoS have a right, indeed a duty, to make the danger known. CoS needs a Martin Luther and he should take the scriptures with him. He, too, would have religious freedom and the right to pick and choose which of the scriptures to cling to and which to reject. He can publish them. It's a matter of religious freedom.

The story of Xemu has a parallel in terms of science proving "scripture" is false. In the seventeenth century the Archbishop of Armagh, Primate of All Ireland, and Vice-Chancellor of Trinity College in Dublin, published a treatise on biblical chronology. He proclaimed that the first day of creation was Sunday 23 October 4004 BCE. It was included in some of the bibles of that time.

Today's science makes that claim sound ridiculous. Today's science also makes monkeying around with Hawaiian volcanoes and bombs equally ridiculous. Keeping an absurdity a religious secret in the face of its own absurdity is an absurdity and the local county judge has the power to declare it exactly that. All he has to do is take judicial notice that what he just read privately in chambers is too silly. The courts cannot allow the fact it is being taught as truth to escape public scrutiny simply because the material is copyright protected. Copyright law is regulatory and civil. It exists to protect proprietary interests;

not to suppress public knowledge of criminal behavior or attempts to intimidate those who would expose it. The courts cannot protect lies or insane ravings under color of copyright or constitutional guarantees of religious freedom.

5) The fact the "inner circle" (all religious cults have an inner circle) presents the Xemu story as true is proof positive of either brainwashing, mental incompetence or fraud. If the members of the inner circle believe it, they've either been brainwashed or they're not mentally competent to care for themselves in the modern world. We don't think mental incompetence or brainwashing are involved where the inner circle is concerned.

They're in on the joke. It's garden variety fraud.

Hey, CoS, you get that? You're conducting a criminal enterprise and you're a threat to public safety. The Priests of theWoodlands Nations are a legend...a myth. You can't sue a myth. Sue me.

I don't have the priestly blood but I _am_ of the warrior families.

I guarantee you can find me.

Your religion is rooted in the ravings of a dissociative lunatic. You are operating a criminal enterprise behind a facade of religion. You are cowards, thieves and grifters. Sue me.
--P

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On Wed, 09 May 2001 13:53:38 -0500, Pam Feathercloud <Princess@cheqnet.net> wrote in <3AF99232.80831D5C@cheqnet.net>:

>... Narcanon ...
........^^^......

Just one correction. The cos group is Narconon. (See the con?) CoS has a tendancy to take an accepted group's name, and name their cos groups with a similar sounding name, to confuse people and utilize the reputation of the accepted group. There are other instances of their having done this, for example, with religious tolerance groups.

Narcanon is a legitimate group, Narcotics Anonymous, with a 12-step program. Beyond that, I can't speak about the legitimate group, its practices, or its success rate, as I know little about it, other than that people confuse the two all the time. As cos intended they would.

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