On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:51:24 +0100, Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@virgin.net> wrote:

>Keith Henson (Arel actually) wrote:
>> My current speculation about Stacy Moxon Meyer's death is that the
>> most unlikely part of the Meyer story is true--the squirrel part. It
>> is the part about her wanting to be in that vault that is false.
snip >> Therefore, she was not off her post. Therefore she was assigned to do
>> what she was doing. Therefore, they knew she was there. This leaves
>> the squirrel part of the story as probably true. Didn't Holmes once
>> say, "When the impossible has been eliminated, whatever remains must
>> be true"? Since it is impossible that she could have been off post
>> without being missed and furiously sought (and by admission in the
>> open, dragging a noisily scraping manhole cover off a vault), she must
>> have been on post, and since it is known that ground squirrels were a
>> problem, and since $-ology almost always seasons its lies with some
>> truth (aside from the grand ones about freedom and such), my
>> conclusion is that she was hatted for the task of going into the
>> transformer vault and either looking for ground squirrels or places
>> where they could get in.
>This is a very good point. We hear nothing about the search that was
>mounted when she was found not to be on post.
>> The biggest open question is: why was the power not turned off so
>> that she didn't have to enter a "hot" vault?
>I get some information from Andre Tabayoyon about this. He thought she
>might have been sent down there to clean up debris. But if that were the
>case the chief electrician would have had to be present and the power
>company would have had to have but the power and the manhole cover would
>have to be unlocked etc. etc. There is absolutely no way she could have
>gotten NEAR that vault undetected and it would have been impossible for
>her to get in there on her own.
The manhole cover had bolts but no lock. But your other point is exact. It is also instructive that they knew exactly who it was when there was almost no way to recognize her.

>She was obviously put down there. Gold's "chain locker room" taking the
>form of the transformer vault.
Here I disagree, though I would have agreed earlier. From all reports Stacy was a compliant scientologist. Also she was not wearing RPF garb. The timing also supports this being a hatted operation. As someone mentioned, any problem which requires "handling" takes about three weeks for a policy to be drafted and go back down the chain of command. It was about three weeks from the time the first ground squirrel got into the wires. I think Stacy was picked for the task of going into a hot vault because she was small and a wooden (non conducting) ladder was used because the policy said "inspect for ground squirrels" or "check the screens for being in place" without the step of "turn off the power." I don't think there was any intent for her to go to the bottom of the ladder. What happened, as Arel pointed out, was that the 6 foot ladder could not be opened very well hanging from someone's hand in the 8 foot deep vault. Not being fully opened, it was unstable resulting in Stacy falling off the ladder into the wires as she tried to get on the ladder through the manhole.

As long as you didn't fall of the ladder, going part way down a ladder into the vault to get a look at the rodent screens would be seen as a fairly safe thing to do.

The other point is that the vault was hot enough from the transformer losses, typically 3 percent of rating or about 1500 watts, that the heat would kill someone in a few hours. I am inclined to think the local "chain locker" was elsewhere.

snip >What about that call to the fire department? CAn someone get the
>records? Didn't they say they had a car on fire and when they turned up
>they said they did not? And did they not wait for an hour afterwards
>before calling the sheriff? Someone needs to get hold of this
>information plus the times they occurred.
The call to the fire department (which I have) was by the ambulance company. The original call from Gold was to an ambulance company, not 911. Those calls are not public records, which means you have to get a subpoena to get them. They are likely erased by now.

Keith Henson >Roland

> The manhole cover had bolts but no lock. But your other point is
> exact. It is also instructive that they knew exactly who it was when
> there was almost no way to recognize her.
This is not only inherently creepy, it goes against the other points in the shore story - that they didn't know where she was since she hadn't shown up for her shift.

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I think this newsgroup should adopt Stacy Moxon psot humously since she obviously never had a father while alive.

Roland

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