Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: THE RIGHT TO BE LEFT Message-ID: <9507261719.0OC0J03@support.com> References: <1995Jul26.184803.12784@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 17:19:17 -0700 Lines: 103 Henry: >yep. even the koresh-ites knew exactly how it would end. > >if the AFT, FBI and Justice Department had done their damn >JOBS this wouldn't have happened. they would have let koresh >talk to his biblical scholars, and discovered the methods of >negotiation which would have allowed the koresh kultists to >surrender without surrendering their (albeit strange) religious >beliefs. > >in any soon-to-be raid on scientology churches, i hope that >they keep a staff of experts on cult-think, including people like >you, dennis. in fact, maybe even you personally. Be happy to assist and take the blame for any f*ck-ups which will inevitably happen. What's a little more guilt in my life? >any sort of waco situation must be avoided at all costs. I assume we are dragging the scienos into the light to avoid just such a confligration. >> I hope it doesn't make the FBI, ATF and Justice Dept. too >> reticent to get into it with the scienos. >> >>The government will never pick such a fight against somebody >>with good lawyers. > > That's just silly. John Gotti didn't have good lawyers? > >exactly. gotti had the best, and they nailed his ass. > >scientology has losers who scientology is stupid >enough to pay to make them look like fools on the net >and sue every important net.celebrity in sight. > >expect news articles on this latest lunacy. > > I think I may have been expecting better logic of you. > Sorry. Let's end this virtually off-topic thread. I try to > mention the scieno connection so it doesn't go totally off. > >sorry, i've kept this awful thread alive against your >wishes [grovel]. This sh*t will just not go away. Not with the hearings going on. >i see a potential firestorm emerging which >will demand immediate action against this cult, and i don't >want to see another waco, as much as i'm pissed at and despise >this cult. Agreed. >nobody's rights should be violated in the pursuit of freedom. Or in the persuit of criminality. > It relates only because the scienos want the ATF and FBI to > look bad as possible in order to limit their willingness to > find out the sh*t about the scieno crimes. > >this is true. the FBI, despite the fact that they fucked up >just as badly as the ATF, are more or less a sound organization. >they can't be damaged by such silliness as has been mustered >by the loons. the FBI needs reformation, but the ATF, on the >other hand, is completely amok and out of control, and ought to >be utterly disbanded. Perhaps. I'd need lots more data to have an opinion. >we can only hope that as a result of this tragedy, and jonestown, >and taking the leads of the japanese who defused the nerve-gas >cult situation with vigor and courage, that future cult stand-offs >will be dealt with sensibly and without unnecessary violence. One can hope, but, knowing the nature of fanaticism, it's not really likely. > Let's drop it, hey? > >well, let's try to figure out how to do it RIGHT this time, eh? As if it's our problem to solve. >there is no need whatsoever for ANOTHER waco disaster. we need >sensible plans for cult-busting without blood. Agreed. >h Fini? +--------------------------------------+ Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com "tar baby"