Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: Fair use and trade se Message-ID: <9508061302.0IB8I00@support.com> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Sun, 06 Aug 95 13:02:06 -0700 Lines: 55 mgarde@ix.netcom.com (Maureen Garde) >The federal district courts, which are trial courts, are bound to apply >precedents established in the appropriate circuit court unless they >decide for very good reason not to do so. If a lower federal court >does not follow precedents established in the appropriate circuit, the >lower court risks reversal on appeal if the appropriate circuit court >does not agree with the reasons given for not following prior >precedent. The ninth circuit is the appropriate circuit for the >federal district courts in California. > >The federal district courts are not bound in the same way to follow the >decisions of other federal district courts, although a decision in one >federal district court, especially one within the same state, would >ordinarily be highly persuasive to a judge in another federal district >court. So, the Vien case is precedent for the District Court judge in >the Northern District of California court, but the precedent may be >highly persuasive, but not binding precedent. > >In addition, with respect to the Vien case in particular, as has been >said in other messages, perhaps in this same thread, the facts of the >Vien case were different from the facts now presented in the >Erlich/Netcom case, and thus it presents different legal issues. > >My guess is, given the time period that has passed since the hearing in >the Erlich/Netcom case, that the judge is preparing a detailed written >opinion. The judge no doubt realizes that no matter how he rules on >any of the issues, an appeal will be taken by one party or another. >And the issues are very important ones as they have implications for >liability of sysops and internet providers, not to mention the >underlying first amendment issues. > >In addition, if Judge Whyte does decide to rule contrary to the Vien >case on the trade secret or any other issue, it will be important that >he justify that ruling in a written opinion as it would confuse the >state of the law to have an extant written opinion ruling one way on >the issues, and a a mere ruling (which would have virtually no value as >precedent but would be binding on COS) which goes the other way. > >My guess is that Judge Whyte's law clerks are busy little bees at the >moment. His "Outurns" (judicial name for working interns) seemed to be getting quite a kick out of Cooley's theatrics at the hearing. Several of them chuckled in embarrassment at the old dude during his gesticulating pontifications. Yea, I'll bet they are busy. +--------------------------------------+ Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com "tar baby"