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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: AB Review..for Tom K.
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rkeller@netaxs.com (Rod Keller)

: >Tom claims it is a crime. And I don't think there is any chance she was
: >involved in the effort to frame him. Not a chance.

Me:
>:     In as much as the frame was not intended toward you, nor was
>:     it intended to cut *your* internet access, you have the
>:     luxury of detachment and lack of real interest.  If someone
>:     commits a crime against me or someone I care about (one was
>:     committed), and someone has information about it (as in Old
>:     Timer), I'm gonna want to know about it.  Even if her friends
>:     tell me there's "not a chance" she was involved.

Rod:
>You might as well go around accusing everybody. 
 
    I "might as well", but I'm not, am I?  Save your twisted 
    rhetoric for those who'd think it's more than just that.

>The Pope, John Elway,
>Kevin Costner, John Major, whoever. Isn't this the type of innuendo you
>were protesting not so long ago? 
 
    I don't know what you're talking about, and neither do you.  
    Go find the quote and put it up.  Otherwise I will have no 
    idea how to respond.  Or is that the idea?

>Show some evidence, come clean to a.r.s,
>it's what you advised OT to do.
                                              
    Evidence that I suspect Tumor of helping OSA.  She has 
    provided the fuel for my suspicions with her inside knowledge
    of the events and threat against Tom.

: >I tend to take what's offered. She has offered some information, let's
: >hope she trusts us enough to contribute in the future.
>:
>:     How sweet.  Yes, and let's hope she doesn't have her OSA
>:     friends visit our parents again too, while we're practicing
>:     wishful thinking.

>You have some evidence that she sent OSA people to visit your parents, I
>assume? Otherwise, this is more unsubstantiated rumor-mongering.

    OSA has sent representitives to intimidate and harass my 
    elderly parents.  If she is working for/with them, she is 
    party to a criminal conspiracy to deprive me of my rights and
    harass me and my family into silence.
    
    This is what I suspect from the Tumor's actions.

: >This is poor legal reasoning. If you make a few comments to friends, you
: >suddenly have to tell Tom everything you know, regardless of the
: >consequences.
>:
>:     Poor *legal* reasoning?  Comments to friends?  You're trying
>:     to shoe-horn the argument into a place it don't fit.
>:
>:     She told ars that Tom wouldn't like the information she had
>:     on the Bloodybutt affair and that he ought to drop his inquiry
>:     into it.  She tried to get me to call Tom off.  Tom has a perfect
>:     right, both morally and legally to know what she knows about
>:     the Bloodybutt Affair.  Me, I'm just curious.  The whole
>:     thing just reaks of OSA undecover.
>
>Yes, poor legal reasoning. Her comments were made public to a.r.s without
>her consent, they were intended for a small audience of people she
>thought were friends.
                                                    
    Lie.
    
    She is the one who posted the threat against Tom and the 
    empassioned plea for me to get him "in line".

>I'd like to know what right you think Tom has to force somebody to
>endanger themselves? Legal right, as in "morally and _legally_", above.
                                                 
    He has the right to have his lawyers track her down and 
    make her testify about what she knows.  I'm just suggesting 
    that she avoid the application of force (in the form of a 
    subpoena) and come forward with what she knows.

    I'm giving her some good advice.  
    
    Come forward, Tumor.
    
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           Rev. Dennis L Erlich  * * the inFormer * *
      dennis.l.erlich@support.com  +  inForm@primenet.com
                           "tar baby"