Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: OTVIII fake?  "yes"
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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 95 15:29:49 -0700
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cultxpt@primenet.com (Jeff Jacobsen)

>   This is from a Scientologist who posted this a long time ago.  I took
>his name off for no reason at all.
>
>** begin old post **
>
>Total BALOGNA!
>
>First off OT VIII is delivered on this ship called the FREEWINDS.
>That is the only place where it can be delivered. Why? Because that's
>what the management chose to do so they could keep it under tight security etc.
>
>If this was valid your friend would of had to tear the page out of a
>course pack and hope it wasn't noticed when the pack was turned in.
                                           
    Whatever.  Security has never been so tight that it was never
    broken.

>The distribution nonsense at the top upper left of the post mentioned
>that its distribution was as follows:
>
>OT VIII  Course Students

    Self explanatory

>OT VIII Auditors
         
    Any auditor auditing OT 8's.

>OT VIII C/Ses
                                
    Self explanitory.

>AO Review Auditors
                     
    OT8 Review auditors in various Qual Divisions all over the 
    world.

>AO C/Ses
           
    Same for OT8 AO C/Ses.

>That in itself was the tip off for AO C/Ses, which stands for Advanced
>Organization Case Supervisors, would not be privy to what was on OT VIII.

    The Freewinds would have an Advanced Org onboard.  There'd be
    other AOs with OT8's to audit after the level was completed.

>The next tip off was that it was designated for OT VIII auditors. OT
>VIII is a solo audited level. There are no other auditors involved. The
>OT audits himself.

    There would have to be OT 8 auditors for review purposes,
    when the mark got his case [sic] into trouble solo auditing 
    and after he left the Freewind.

>The you made reference to biblical "stuff" and a Budhist word called: Karma.
>Scientology has its own nomenclature, remember?

    So?  Phatso used the word occasionally.

>I could go on but why bother. Your cause would be better executed if you
>relied on truth rather than lies.
>
>Scientology Detective ;-)
                                   
    Not entirely convincing arguments that the documents couldn't
    be authentic.

>Jeff Jacobsen         SP3, Scientology critic
 
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