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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: DUPLICATING/DISTRIBUT
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brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)

>Tom Klemesrud <tomklem@netcom.com> wrote:
>My defense, and Dennis Erlich's defense asserts that the Plaintiff does not
>hold valid copyrights, and the material is incapable of being copyrighted.
>That is what Judge Ronald Whyte is to decide.  CoS did an end-run around Judge
>
>Whyte with this.  Everybody assumes that they hold valid copyrights with
>this stuff, when if fact, that may not be the case.

Brad:
>Tom, I'm sure that's a good defence tactic to take, and I wish you well as
>a fellow member of the net community, but if that's your defence then
>the case is not a net case, and there is little reason to discuss it in
>an EFF newsgroup.
>
>This is not a criticism.  When you are in court you take the best defence
>you can find, or several of them.   If I were in court and could get off
>of a plaintiff's error rather than by defining new law, I would do the same.
>
>Erlich's case isn't a net case.  What got people interested (above and beyond
>any interest in the battle between scientology and its opponents) was
>the fact that you and Netcom were sued.  Everybody is interested in that
>co-liability.  If it turns out the documents have an invalid copyright,
>then nothing is decided, because most of us outside the battle (which probably
>included you before all this) don't care a lot whether Hubbard's copyrights
>were transferred properly.
>--
>Brad Templeton, publisher, ClariNet Communications Corp.         info@clari.net

    I must politely disagree, Brad.  Mine is a net.case.  I chose
    to exorcize my right to free speech in the protected, public
    forum of this newsgroup.  It is the "town square" in which I set
    up my soap box to preach about the evils of the cult.

    Hopefully my case will help define what protections from invasion 
    of privacy a citizen has in this new digital medium.

    Are we now supposed to turn over our hard disk every time an
    enemy makes a claim against us?

    If so, I musta wandered into the rong country and probably
    aughta move on along.  (I took a little German in High School and
    I grew up listening to Yiddish.  So perhaps I'd be better off
    where they know what fascism looks like first-hand.)

    Which reminds me ...

    Tilman, you're the celeb FAQeeper.  Isn't there some indirect
    connection between poodleboy, CAA, Ovitts, (and now) Disney
    and ABC?  Tell us what you know about the scieno's
    potentially sinister plot to gain control over these
    entertainment and media giants.

    G'wan.  Spill the beans.

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