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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: How they manufacture
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Kim Baker <KIM@uctlib.uct.ac.za>

>    I witnessed Woody appying those tactics on people on
>    ars.
>
> > - Ignore completely what a person is saying.
> >
> > - Twist what they say to make it sound like something else, and
> >   stick to that - the person will get furious at being permanently
> >   misunderstood.
> >
> > - Take what the person says, and make nothing of it
> >
> > - Interrupt a person constantly while they are trying to say
> >   something - in an electronic medium, that would mean snipping the
> >   text and focusing on some obscure point, and not the basic gist of
> >   the message.

Another human:
> Kim (or other ex-Scienos), do you remember exactly where that paradigm
> of CoSadism is spelled out?  If possible, I'd like to know the full
> HCOB or HCOPL or whatever citation; ie, something like "CCH-xx, `The
> Infliction of TheTA', HCOPL-yyy, L.Ron Hubbard (mm/dd/yy)."  If by
> some miracle you actually have the *text* online, or know where it
> might be archived, that would be best of all.

Kim:
>    OK, I'm afraid I don't have the *exact* reference, as my
>    ex seized this and other texts from me, upon our parting.
>    I do remember that it was in a book entitled "The book
>    of e-meter drills," by L. Ron Hubbard. Maybe other ex-scienos
>    can help you out with the exact reference and page number.

    Book of e-meter drills.  Drill #11 (?- from memory): Cleaning
    and dirtying a needle.

> Like, the name of the course, or which level of Auditor training it
> was, or something.

    It's on courses from Level O up.

>    It was learnt at the Level of Level 0 auditor training,
>    and drilled on an e-meter. You get a test person to
>    hold the cans, then you ask them to tell you something, then
>    you employ one of the tactics listed above, eg, tell them that
>    what they just told you is bullshit. Then, you watch the needle
>    rise on the e-meter, and wtach the TA (Tone arm) rise. You
>    don't need to see it on an e-meter, you can see it on the person's
>    face. The remedy to "un-infuriate" them is to indicate to them
>    what you just did.
                                     
    You ask "Do you have any considerations about what we're 
    doing?" to clean [sic] the needle.

Human:
> I apologize for my sorry grasp of CoS arcana.  There ain't no way I
> will ever comprehend it all -- I have to rely on escapees like you to
> fill in the details.

    You'd never grasp it even if you studied it, so no apologies
    are necessary.
    
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