Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: THE NON-SCANDAL OF ANDY G Message-ID: <9509161047.0F5TV00@support.com> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Sat, 16 Sep 95 10:47:34 -0700 Lines: 112 Robert J. Woodhead >I've already written briefly in defense of Andy, but given the recent >toasting Dennis and others gave him, I felt something more in-depth was >in order, especiallu in light that I was the one who pointed him to >a.r.s. So he's got you to vouch for him. Big deal. You are a complete unknown to me. You may be doing advertising for his practice. This all smells like sizzling lunch meat to me. >Andy is one of the finest people I know. He is a man I would trust with >my life, nay, with my children's lives - and not just because I have him >on retainer (grin). Gee, that's so funny. Who else is retaining him? Are they gonna speak up for him on this forum too? >I have known Andy for over 15 years, since our college days at Cornell. >We co-authored a series of computer games together ("Wizardry"). > >Some years ago, he came to the conclusion that he could be of more service >to society hacking the legal system than hacking computers, so he went to >law school. So he did that. This also had the benefit of making his >family (all lawyers, so he was the white sheep of the family) happy, so >he got to kill two birds with one stone. > >He is one of the finest Intellectual Property lawyers around, and has a >growing specialty of computer law. He's probably the only lawyer in the >country that can debug your software and your legal case at the same time. Does he wear those cute sailor suits and do toilets too? >He either knows his shit, or knows who knows his shit. Jeeze, I'm impressed. >Face facts, people. The church is using the law, and more importantly, >the _legal system_ to attack you. The legal system is a codified set of >rules; it's a computer game with lots of people constantly tweaking the >code. Nobody owns the law (supposedly). The law is not someone's intellectual property to tinker with for their own benifit. At least it shouldn't be. So your analogy shows your own twisted view of the law relating to IP. >You and I don't know how to play the game. Yes, we are just ignorant citizens who deludedly think we have freedom of speech. We're not worthy! >At best, we are amateurs. >He's a pro. Just like the pros the church has hired. Perhaps that's why he's posting: [ ] The cult (not church) has hired him to spin the newsgroup into a consensus favorable to their legal positioning. [ ] He'd like the cult to contact him and retain him. [ ] He'd like others to know what a hot-shot he is so they will get in line for the lunch meat he's slicing up. >If he tells you >something about the law, he is probably right. No. That's bullsh*t. If it's about my case (or about Arnie's or Larry's or Bob's) and if a Federal Appeals Court tells me it's the law, THEN AND ONLY THEN, will I believe that it's *probably* right. >You may not like what >he says about a particular issue, but the law isn't about what you like >or don't like, and any lawyer who candy-coats things for his clients is >a bad lawyer. They especially don't candy-coat things when they try to intimidate the opposition into backing off. >Finally, before you flame him, consider that he is giving the group the >benefit of his legal education for free; those hours come out of time >he could otherwise spend with his family. If it's such a sacrifice that he's neglecting his children, I think we can do without his pontification for a while. After all, he's not getting paid to post here ... or is he? >Robert J Woodhead * trebor@animeigo.com * Send routine AnimEigo questions >to 72447.37@compuserve.com (or phone 910-251-1850). Arigato gozaimasu! Are you in advertising or PR perhaps? Are you in any other businesses with Andrew? Who are some of Andrew's other clients? Has he tried any important cases we might have heard of? Could he post a sample of some of the filings he's made where he defended someone's free-speech or someone's intellectual property against free-speech? +--------------------------------------+ Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com "tar baby"