Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: RE: Andy Greenberg Message-ID: <9509182050.0TA3804@support.com> References: Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Mon, 18 Sep 95 20:50:33 -0700 Lines: 99 trebor@animeigo.com (Robert J. Woodhead (AnimEigo)) >Dennis, while you are fighting the good fight vs. the cult, your ad hominen >attacks on Andy are _way_ off base. I see his insults of me as personal attacks. On top of what I've had to endure at the hands of the scienos I say to him and you "that's as much bullsh*t as I will eat." (to paraphrase cummings) The fact that you've compared my refutation of Andy as dead agenting shows your total lack of comprehension of what is done by the cult to discredit critics like me and Vaughn. >Andy is a great tactical lawyer. He knows the process. So you say. So far he's been quite helpful in presenting arguments designed to limit my freedom of speech about a subject he clearly knows next to nothing. How to deal with and expose the cult to public ridicule. >He's trying to >explain to you how the a.r.s protesters can more efficiently use the legal >system to their advantage -- to counter the effect of the church using the >system to their ends. Yes, but he's wrong, because his tactics apply only to one arena and one set of rules. Homie don't play dat. >Stop calling him a fuckhead because you don't like his message. Can I call you a f*ckhead instead, because you are characterizing my criticism as "shoot the messenger," instead of what I am actually doing? (pointing out that Andy knows sh*t about the cult). >Shooting the messenger is a dumb stunt. F*ckhead. >He isn't motivated by greed. He gave up >being a top-notch software designer who regularly made 6-figures per year >because he felt being a lawyer (at currently 1/3 - 1/5 the money) was more >important. I'm impressed. No other reason but altruism, eh? Power to the people, bro. A true american hero. >The legal system has inertia. Much easier to take what is already there >and use it to your advantage than try and push it where you'd like it to >be. When people can come into your home and rape your privacy, it's time to push back. >If you don't believe him or me in this regard, I suggest you ask him for a >compilation of his postings (if you don't have them handy) and show them to >MOFO and ask them what THEY think of it. I think I'll trust MoFo to look after my interests, thankyouverymuch. I have been consulted on every major decision MoFo has made in the case. They have shared with me every strategy they've considered using. Strange that none of the pessimistic, give-up-your-rights positions have even been considered for me to approve or overrule. >If you drive away those who agree with your goals but disagree with your >tactics, then you are making a grave miscalculation. I don't issue licenses for people to post to ars, and I don't revoke them. If he wants to leave he can. He shouldn't blame me for chasing him off. And neither should you. If he wants to keep posting his drivel to convince people of why they should give up little bits of their right to free speech in favor of the criminal cult's right to invade everyone's privacy protecting their bait-and-switch fraud, let him continue. But I'll be right there to tell him he's full of sh*t. Count on it. >Worse, you are doing >exactly what Miscavige did and continues to do. Think about it. Making such a comparison is highly insulting. You've never met the little sh*t. You have absolutely no idea what or who the poodle is. Or do you? How *are* you so familiar with Miss Cabbage? +--------------------------------------+ Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com "tar baby" [posted to ars and e-mailed]