Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: QUESTIONS ON SCIENTOL 1/2 Message-ID: <9509191306.0IF9P02@support.com> References: Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 13:06:53 -0700 Lines: 178 Tim Schmitt > As a non-scientologist, I've generated this list of questions >about scientology, questions not answered on ars. If you have >the time and desire, could you respond to them? Sure thing, Tim. >I also >welcome you to post my questions, and your answers, to ars >for everyone's benefit. Will do. > 1) How big of a problem is the Internet to Scientology? Do they >consider the Internet to be the most grievous problem they've >ever faced. Or, is the Internet just a serious problem, and >Scientology has successfully dealt with serious problems before? I think it is a bigger problem to them than their 30 year battle with the IRS. There is no way to lie to an alert newsgroup like ars. The spread of information is instantaneous and unstoppable. Once the information is out on who they are, what they stand for and what they have done to the public and their believers, the game is over for them. Internet may not be the biggest, but it is surely the *last* problem the cult will ever face. I intend to see to it. > 2) The scientology FAQ makes many promises of teaching the principals >to improve one's quality of life. I forgot the passage, but >Scientology promises to help students achieve better grades, help the >small business owner make more money, help those struggling >in their marriage, ect. > Well, what are these exact "principals" (assuming they exist)? They are cute little mechanical formulas used to control social situations with new found certainty and positive assertion. Kinda like social judo. Plus a bunch of mental programming teckniques that lead you to the conclusion that you are possessed by hundreds of thousands of demon entities whose thoughts you think and emotions and ailments you feel, and need exorcisms at up to $1000 per hour. >Furthermore, why can't one just apply these same principals without >buying into the whole of Scientology? You can. See alt.clearing.technology. But I don't recommend it. But that's just my personal opinion based on years of actual experience. Many people find comfort in rub-on enlightenment. > For instance, if one of these scientology principals for >business owners is "Higher only quality people", I certainly don't >need to be a scientologist to apply that principal. There's a lot of such truisms in the cult. Hubbard actually claimed to have invented music (many lifetimes ago). If you ever heard his music you'd know why this is doubly funny. > 3) According to the Scientology model, is it possible for one to >happy and content in life if one is not a scientologists? For a while. Even for several lifetimes. It's called a keyed-out state. Your badbadbad Reactive Mind (full of demons) moves away a few feet and you become temporarily rational. It eventually moves back in (keys-in) and you go back to being a unconcious robot who is operating on the programming of his demon entities. > 4) How is Scientology lead when the leader, David Miscage, is >in hiding? How effective leader can he be in that circumstance? The cult has a command structure and rigid policy that makes the CIA seem amaturish. Everybody's programmed to follow orders of their immediate senior (no need to know why). There is actually a personnel test called the Leadership Survey. Questions like: Policy should be ... a) followed exactly. b) used in a sensible manner. c) questioned. Correct answer a). All questions like this graded similarly. They weed out anyone who might question. > 5) What happened to Hubard's wife after she did her time? What >happened to Hubard's daughter? She cut a deal with the poodle and kept out of his way. > 6) In their heart of hearts, do you supposed the leaders of >Scientology really believe everything that Hubard is true, or >that some of it really is science fiction? You don't know what it is like to be transformed into the kind of raging *sshole it takes to be in the upper management of the cult. Utter ruthlessnes is demanded *by policy* and by practice. It's not whether it's "true" that matters to these people. It's that they can make it work on you. > 7) Why is Scientology so adamant about going after their critics? It is in the policy to do it and they must follow policy without question. Now that Hubbard is so thoroughly dead, that policy will never change. It cannot. >Is it because they secretly feel the basis of scientology is >so weak and ridiculous that they don't want it exposed. Bingo! Just like any fraud or confidence scheme, if the mark knows everthing you're up to, you can't "hook" him. > 8) Everybody is up-in-arms over Scientologists raids on private homes >to confiscate goodies. However, I see little criticisms of >the judges who grant these raids. One doesn't make light of or critize a Federal Judge, I've been told. >How is it that Scientology >gets such favorable court decisions in some cases? Temporary successes based on legal abuses and misrepresentation. > Also, a lot of people claim that scientologist present >false information to judges to get their raids authorized. >However, I never here of any cases were scientologists or >their lawyers are later on punished for presenting erroneous >information. Helena got a big fine from a Federal Judge for asserting maliciously that someone was involved in a RICO-type conspiracy (if I recall correctly). > 9) Since scientology is so aggressively legally, don't they >have a shit load of legal bills? In 1981, just before I left, their legal bill was averaging $2 mil per month. > 10) I don't understand how the cancel bunny knows a post >contains copyright information. How is the cancel bunny >watching the newsgroup before the message is posted? The Reader I/C in the ARS Project OSA is running identifies the offending message and then the canclepoodle is called to fix it. >Do you >think the cancel bunny will someday be terminally exterminated? Yes. When they (there have been a bunch of accounts) are finally pulled into a criminal investigation. But it's the cancel *poodle*. > 11) Why did the IRS rule Scientology a religion when they >had such convincing evidence against them? Did Scientology, >with it's aggressive legal team, manage to break down even >the IRS? Yes and they made a secret dirty deal with the cult. It may have been illegal. I think it was. > 12) How do you think the Internet will change the Scientology >organization?