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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: The Andy & Woodhead Show
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Sorry, Charlie.  I must disclaim what you have written.  I was
trolling you with the earlier psudoanswers.

If *you* wish to write a manifesto, please feel free to do so.  
Your ars "e-ticket" entitles you to have a shot at it.  And at 
no extra charge.  Be sure to get a tee shirt as a rememberence of
your time here.

I've got my own thangs to do.

            +--------------------------------------+
           Rev. Dennis L Erlich  * * the inFormer * *
      dennis.l.erlich@support.com  +  inForm@primenet.com
                           "tar baby"


Robert J. Woodhead:

>Dennis,
>
>My apologies for not replying earlier today.  While my job isn't as
>intensive as that of CO$ staffers, I too have to keep my "stats" up (and
>I'm allegedly the boss).
>
>I've reprinted below my original list, modified to reflect your wordings.
>And I've added a few things at the bottom that reflect some ideas I've had.
>I hope you find them interesting and useful.
>
>And yet, hopefully we will both get a prize out of this exercise; insight.
>
>R&D : The CO$ is a manipulative cult.
>
>R&D : The CO$ uses mind-control techniques to control followers.
>
>R&D : The CO$ uses "Black PR" to discredit critics.
>
>R&D : The CO$ abuses the legal system whenever possible to destroy critics.
>
>R&D : CO$ policy is to control public perception of the CO$
>
>R&D : The CO$ has a lot of money.
>
>R&D : The CO$ has a lot of manpower, dedicated followers who tend to
>      uncritically follow instructions of church superiors.  Note: I
>      don't think they are slaves; slaves _know_ they are enslaved.
>
>R&D : The CO$ has a reasonably sophisticated intelligence agency, however
>      the Internet presents an unfamiliar challenge to it.
>
>R&D : The CO$ does not play by the rules of civilized society.
>
>R&D : People's lives are being destroyed by the CO$.
>
>R&D : The CO$ should not be allowed to destroy people's lives.
>
>R&D : We have an affirmative duty to educate people about the CO$ so
>      that they can at least make an informed choice about whether or
>      not to join it.
>
>- - - - - - - - - -
>
>RJW : The great strength of the CO$ is their set of institutional procedures
>      for responding to outside threats.
>
>RJW : The achilles heel of the CO$ is their set of institutional proceedures
>      for responding to outside threats.  It makes them predictable.
>
>RJW : Publishing the internal teachings of the CO$ exposes them to ridicule
>      and threatens their existence.
>
>RJW : The CO$ almost always responds to such threats by abusing the
>      legal system.
>
>RJW : Hopefully, the result of cases like yours and Arnie Lerma's will be
>      precedents that make it harder for the CO$ to go after critics.
>
>      [Personally, I think you are going to crucify the church in court; it
>      is Arnie who is going to have a hard fight].
>
>RJW : Unfortunately, the wheels of justice grind slowly, and what with the
>      inevitable CO$ appeals, it will be some time (years, perhaps) before
>      the precedents are both upheld on appeal and familiar enough to the
>      average judge, so that the CO$ won't be able to ambush judges and get
>      seizure orders like the Factnet one.
>
>RJW : Currently you are under a restraining order that limits what you can
>      say (in public) about the church.  So you can't go around posting the
>      OT documents, for example.
>
>RJW : But it doesn't restrain you from thinking, or from planning, or from
>      giving others the benefit of your experience and insight.
>
>RJW : So the key question in my mind is, "What to do in the meantime?"  And
>      my feeling is, "do something that turns the CO$' strengths against
>      them."  (Here comes another of my analogies).  Use Jujitsu on them.
>
>Are we still pretty much on the same wavelength?  I hope so.  I came up with
>an insane, devious plan this morning while driving, but I want to make sure
>I haven't made any basic misassumptions that would wreck it.
>
>Best
>R
>
>PS: Apparently, someone emailed Andy, allegedly from the church, asking for
>him to represent them.  He felt it was a troll, but replied that it would
>conflict with his existing clients, all of which are members of the human
>race.  ;^)

    This is funny.

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