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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: ARNIE & FAIR USE: TIT
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Dave Bird <dave@xemu.demon.co.uk>

    This is a misattribution.  None of the words below are mine.
    
    Dennis


>In article: <9509191529.0LRNV02@support.com>  dennis.l.erlich@support.com
>writes:
>
> >A. Lerma got a court record, which at the time was publicly available to
> >absolutely anyone. The document was not sealed, in fact it had gone
> >through two procedures where sealing it was denied. The public court
> >document had some allegedly copyrighted materials within it. Lerma
> >reported (posted) the contents of the public court document, in its
> >entirety. In accompanying postings, he gave comments on the materials.
> >
> >Here comes the part I don't understand. Didn't he do exactly the same
> >thing Court TV does, or that Time and NBC do when they put O.J.
> >transcripts on the net? It seems obvious to me that Court TV and Time and
> >NBC don't have any trouble posting public court documents to millions of
> >people, even when disputed, copyrighted documents are in them. In the O.J.
> >trial alone, we have seen this done plenty of times, not only the Fuhrman
> >tapes, but clips from copyrighted TV and print news stories.
> 
>  A little Greenbergism that stuck in my mind before.  "Just because there is
>e.g. a plagiarism dispute as regards two songs, it doesn't mean that
>all copyright on those two songs is abrogated...".  An odd comparison,
>analysed as follows.  
>
>  The Washington Post could with great glee publish the whole of the
>two songs on opposite pages in the context of dicsussing the case.
>You could organise a lecture or broadcast about the case, in the course
>of which the two songs were performed; they could be posted on the Net
>in the context of such a discussion. What you *couldn't* do
>(especially for profit) without copyright permission was include
>them in what was mainly or only a performance, a songbook, etcetera.
>Surely the differnce is clear?
>
>
>-- 
> Regards,
>
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