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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: ACLUUSAY?
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icdea1@giaeb.cc.monash.edu.au (Ian Dean)

I asked:
>Andy,
>Please state your personal position on and what you feel the law
>should be regarding the following questions:
>    1)  Is there such a thing as mind control?  Describe it.
>    2)  To what extent should it be left alone or regulated by
>        the law?
>    3)  Is there such a thing as thought reform?  How does it
>        work?
>    4)  To what extent should it be left alone or regulated by
>        the law?
>    5)  Is there such a thing as undue influence?  If so, what is
>        it?
>    6)  What have you/should be done about it?
>    7)  Is freedom from deception a civil right?  If so, where
>        would you place it on a one to ten scale in relation to
>        in relation to the importance of protecting the deceiver's
>        property rights?
>Let's start from here, shall we?
>Nice and civil-like.

Ian:
>Dennis, you may call this civl, I call it bloody inflammatory and
>and unwarranted!

    Sweet Jesus!  Now asking a person questions relating to the
    subject of the newsgroup is a crime?

>You have taken him to task just because he doesn't
>agree with everything you say.

    I took him to task because I didn't agree with what *he*
    said.  I'm not allowed?

>Well I don't either.

    I care?

>And there are many people in the world who don't as wwell.

    I'm positively crushed.

>Are you going to use the
>same dead agent tactics that you used on Any on me and anyone else
>who doesn't agree with you ?

    Ian, I don't know you from Adam.  I don't recall anything you
    have posted to ars.  What makes you think I care about the
    opinions of people I don't know and respect?

>I am supporting you in your struggle against the scieno's in a
>general sense, but I will not suppport you in your attacks on
>someone who's only fault is that he doesn't react favourably in a
>legal assesment of your actions and Arnies actions.

    Support who and what you want.

>Look at what you have written and read it and think how like
>a petulant child you and Henry have been sounding like.

    I asked some pertinent questions of someone acting like an
    expert on the subject of this newsgroup.

>Ian

    That's it!

    These kind of ugly attacks on me have finally pushed me past
    the point of caring whether you wogs *ever* get the real story 
    about the cult.
    
    I can see that my efforts are all wasted on people who would
    rather berate me for my well-earned opinions, and make
    unwarranted comparisions between me and the criminal mind-
    control cult, than rescue the children and other poor souls
    who are and will be lost in the cult.

    And I had the hope of thinking I was doing something good for
    society.  I can see that you people are just not worth the
    effort.  How many other people have put themselves and their
    lives on the line to warn the public like I have?

    It doesn't matter.  None of it matters to me anymore.  When I
    wake up and find this kind of ugliness directed at me I just 
    think "Why fucking bother?".

    I'm leaving.  And I'm not *ever* coming back.  This will be my
    last post to ars.  I have obviously attempted to help people
    who are incapable of appreciating my knowledge and what I am
    sacrificing to bring it to them.  
    
    You, Ian, have been the straw.  You have convinced me that my 
    costly labor has been in vain.  I will no longer share my 
    vast knowledge.  You will no longer be able to criticize my 
    expertise or pick at my writing style.  Pick, pick, pick is 
    all I get here, just like in the cult.  Nothing I do is ever 
    good enough.

    I hope you're happy now.

            +--------------------------------------+
           Rev. Dennis L Erlich  * * the inFormer * *
      dennis.l.erlich@support.com  +  inForm@primenet.com
                           "tar baby"