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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: [B35] PSYCHOCERAMICS:
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wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell)

an221181@anon.penet.fi (Beebo Brinker)
>>I am not a Scientologist or a Satanist. My question is for those
>>who understand the litigation policy of the COS as it
>>pertains to the Cult Awareness Network.
>>
>>Can anyone explain why the Church of Scientology characterizes
>>itself on the one hand as a legitimate mainstream religion, and on
>>the other hand spends so much time and money harrassing the
>>Cult Awareness Network?
>>
>>CAN, according to some skeptical material I have
>>recently received, advises us all that there are BABY-EATING
>>DEVIL WORSHIPPERS where you would LEAST SUSPECT
>>THEM, that want to infiltrate our SCHOOLS AND DAYCARE CENTERS
>>to teach our precious innocent children about EVOLUTION and force
>>them to play their heavy metal records BACKWARDS to hear
>>SECRET MESSAGES about SECULAR HUMANISM and PREMARITAL SEX
>>and maybe even SELL DRUGS ferchrissakes, and not only that,
>>the've been doing it completely undetected for GENERATIONS
>>without ever leaving a single shred of evidence, not even one
>>baby bone!!!!
>>
>>And the Church of Scientology is worried about damage to its
>>reputation from these people???
>>
>>Beebo Brinker, SP2

Me:
>    Beebo, you have seriously gone over the line here.  CAN
>    advises none of the things you've said above.  Quote their
>    material where it says so, or shut back up.
>
>    CAN and AFF (American Family Foundation) are just about the
>    only American organizations to stand up and denounce the
>    criminal practices of the scienos.  That is why CAN has
>    been sued by the scienos so many times (43).  They deserve
>    our support.
>
>    Get it right.
   
Pope:
>Dennis, I happen to have the book, Satanic Panic by Jeffery S.Victor.
>There are some extensives quotes in this book.  The president of the
>Cult Awarness Council of Houston is quoted making some fairly ludicrous
>statements.  Are the Cult Awarness Councils affiliated with CAN?
>Is this an affiliate?

    Yes.

>Cynthia Kisser is quoted as equating debunkers of Satanic panics
>as being apologists for satanism.

    Yes, that's true.  This happened back in the mid 80s in the
    height of the satanism hysteria.  Cynthia and CAN got
    snookered by the hype and have since repudiated that position
    regarding satanism as bs.

>I hope CAN has backed off of any overindulgence of worrying about
>Satanism as an organized cult like activity.

    They have.  But there were always people in CAN who thought it
    was hysteria.  Priscilla Coates is one example.  Perhaps she
    would be the appropriate person to answer these questions.

>The Christian Far Right has gone ape over this in the last ten years
>and have been thoroughly debunked.

    True fact.

>It might be hard to keep more enthusiastic Christian cult
>members level headed about such things, given the hysteria
>and emphasis Satanism recieves in some parts of teh Christian activist
>community.
>
>I don't really know how much effort CAN gives to Satanism.
              
    Virtually none, these days.

>But obviously, some CAN members have said foolish things about this subject.
                               
    True.

>Hope you are right and CAN is level headed with this subject
>officially.  
 
    They seem to be.

>Credibility can be a fragile thing.  
 
    Tell me about it.

>Of course
>it could well be that those who speak to such things do not speak for
>CAN, which I hope Beebo will realize before laying Satan bashing
>at CAN's feet.
                     
    S'not going on now in CAN.

>Jeffery S. Victor's book, quoted by Beebo Brinker is pretty mild as far
>as such criticism, and does not show CAN is indeed guilty officially
>of going over the edge.
>
>Pope Charles
>SubGenius Pope Of Houston
>Slack!
 
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