Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: INDIVIDUAL SCIENTOLOGISTS Message-ID: <9510100909.0CV3I00@support.com> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 09:09:24 -0700 Lines: 136 gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au (David Gerard) >From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell) >:In article <45873d$lsh@lantana.singnet.com.sg>, >:Marina Chong wrote: > :>On Friday and Saturday I noticed a strange unpleasant smell exuding from my :>mailbox -- sort of clammy, you know -- and when I went to investigate it I :>found what looked like a little clam inside it. > :>Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 11:57:51 +1000 (EST) :>From: "s.draper-staff-oth-jarrah-92109800" :>To: Marina Chong :>Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: A.R.S. Web Page Summary > :> Marine who do you work for? I can't see a public person doing > ^^^^^^ >Clams! > :>as much work on the ARS deal as you do. I'm just interested as to :>whether you have connections and interests re you activities here on :>ARS. > :>Has anyone come across this clam before? > >:Yes. Draper used to post here from time to time. >:Sdraper, mostly harmless. A bit paranoid, but so far not as nasty >:by any means as Vera or as sneaky as Milne. David: >I'm interested. It is entirely plausible that smdraper is in fact an >individual Scientologist, not a Church 'handler'. (Just tried a finger >and it failed to recognise the host. Anyone else want a go?) > >Tony Parker was an independent, individual Scientologist (it has been >firmly established that he was a real live individual named Tony Parker >who works at the Dept of Primary Industry in Queensland, Australia) and >agreed with Woody's posts (indicating that the latter weren't just >randomly-generated gibberish, but actually meant something if you were >in the Church -- hey Dennis, is there some special meaning to the phrase >'Evaluate data'?) Toadly. There's a thing called the Data Series. It's part of the Data Series Evaluator's Course. The data series is in the Management Series (green volume). It teaches how to "evaluate data". Actually it's a scieno-system for getting answers, fact checking, getting to the bottom of things, determining why things have occurred, developing programs to deal with particular desirable or undesirable circumstances. In short, it is a mechanical system Phatso developed to supplant the normal critical thinking mechanism with a new, more controlable model of operation. It teaches the "right way to think". The result is a peckerwoody. See, it works[tm]. >; but he was unfailingly polite in his posting, and >was willing to answer questions despite being put through the a.r.s >gang bang sec check. He wasn't polite to me. >Elizabeth McCoy showed up again, and blew an ASCII raspberry at us. Oh >well, so much for the comm course. She's just a kid. Ars doesn't have enough bells and whistles to keep her attention. >I was hoping Judy Short would turn out to be another individual (the >inability to configure a newsreader set me on this train of thought), but >it was only old Roger "Prozac Hophead" Urban in drag. Oh well. Yuch. >Jim Erlach disappeared without trace. People like Jim Erlach (don't like >the hard sell or the prices, but pursue the religion sincerely) will be >the backbone of the reformed Scientology religion -- remember this. >Has anyone set about tracking down what the hell happened to him? Anyone >remember the email address? I'm terrible with names. >Hey, I know there are individual Scientologists out there,lurking. If you >don't want to reveal your candid opinions under your real name, use an >anonymous remailer (mail help@anon.penet.fi for information on one that >is almost certainly *completely* safe). I bet I can "talk you out." >You'll get a bit of a hard time from the a.r.s critics, but that's a >hazard of being on Usenet. Happens in every other newsgroup too. Follow >the Tony Parker example: be unfailingly polite. If you're sincere, we'll know it. >Respond to flaming with a response that simply *outclasses* the flamer in >politeness and decency. Yea, that's what *I* do. :) >The flamers do stop it. Once you get a clue. >We do understand that the members of the Church are generally as decent >a bunch of folk as you could have, and that that is a good thing. Our >(in as far as 'us' exists) argument is with the actions of the higher >management. The people who brought about the shakeout in the early >eighties and are now blackening your religion's name across the Internet >and across the world's media. > >C'mon, teach us. If they try, they're out-ethics. Catch 22. >Oh, and why do I spend the amount of time on a.r.s that I do (and I spend >a *lot* of time here)? Because the Church has noticed me personally and >I feel that this is the best way to keep myself informed and to inform >others. I probably have a legal battle to fight and need everything I >can. Others, because they really feel the fight for freedoms is deeply >important. (I'm in for that one too.) Why not ask people? Thanks for climbing out on this limb of the Liberty Tree with us, David. If the tree is healthy, it will hold us all. If not ... +--------------------------------------+ Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * dennis.l.erlich@support.com + inForm@primenet.com "tar baby"