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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: ENOUGH LYDTY (LIES YO
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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 07:20:40 -0800
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anon-remailer@utopia.hacktic.nl (Anonymous)

Me:
>>>     Then suddenly Old Tumor trolls us all with the "Manson was a
>>>     GO operative" story and you're telling us that you're a
>>>     believer?

Timer:
>>No, I  didn't say "GO operative," read it again:
>>
>>Charles Manson was a Scientologist.
>>"Possibly" is correct re Comm Course at LA Day.
>>In addition to auditing when he was in jail,
>>Charles Manson was "being handled" as a
>>"clandestine op" off org lines. (If you don't know
>>what this means, ask Dennis - or Henning or
>>Moxon or McShane or DM if you can.)
>>
>>I guess Dennis doesn't know what a "clandestine
>>op" was.  Never mind.

Me:
>    "Op" can be operative or operation.  Were you being purposely
>    inscrutible?  Just cagy or purposely imprecise?

Tumor2:
>Neither cagey nor imprecise.  In $cn, "op" was never "operative."

    Thanks for telling us ... now.

>There were "Msn Ops" abbr. for "Mission Operations" and
>"clandestine op(s)" abbr. for "clandestine operation(s)" but
>they never used "op" for "operative."  In fact, the $cn equivalent
>for "operative" was "missionaire" -- the people sent on missions
>were called "missionaires" not "operatives."

    You get really precise when you're challenged.  Next time
    start that way.

>This explanation is
>for the benefit of the readers -- you knew this all along.

    Nope.  I've been out for 12 years and when I see "op" used by
    someone whom I distrust (first Tumor1 and now you) I assume
    it was used that way to troll the wogs to believe Manson was
    working *for* the GO.  It sure reads that way to the
    uninformed raw meat.

    And it read that way to me.

>>Not a troll. Nor "Old Tumor."

    Okay.  I dub thee <fanfare> ** New Tumor **.

>>Old Timer
>
>    We've already got one suspicious Old Timer (tumor).  She had
>    inside info, too.
>
>She did?   In a pig's eye!

    Huh?  This is pretty strong stuff.  I guess I better not
    argue with you in the future.

>Don't know who you are.  Suggest you get a
>    better handle.
>
>Not a better grip?

    Whatever.

>Old Timer

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