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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: SCIENTOLOGY IS ANTI-_
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lepton@panix.com (Mike O'Connor)

Hoyos writes:
> >  [...] Moreover, Grady Ward's
> >  NoChrist.zip file has Hubbard saying Jesus didn't exist in his own words.

Whipsnapper:
> With this last I can't argue. I have no reason at present to believe it is a
> fake.
            
Mike:
>You are referring to:
>[snip] "There was no Christ." [snip]
>   -- L. Ron Hubbard
>
>You say "I have no reason at present to believe it is a fake." I think
>that is a significant statement and I thank you for it. But, people should
>know for sure if this is an actual statement of L. Ron Hubbard. If it is
>not his words, that's important to know, maybe won't keep getting quoted
>all over the place. If he did say this, that is important to know too.
>
>Cult spokesman Andrew Milne will not tell us if L. Ron Hubbard said this.
>He has been asked, but he ignores the question. He will not address the
>question. Too bust posting cult press releases to answer this? No cult
>person in a position to know will address the question. That doesn't make
>sense. Don't they think it is an important thing to know?
        
    These are the exact words they claimed as Trade Secret, 
    copyrighted skripture in my case.  That was one of my 
    purposes in posting them; to make them claim them as their 
    sakrid skripture.  
    
    If I have accomplished nothing else, getting them to admit 
    this one true thing will bring their downfall.
    
    Take that to the bank.

>If L. Ron Hubbard did say this, why shouldn't the cult say so? 
 
    Then they wouldn't be able to pull the bait-and-switch fraud 
    on unsuspecting Christians and Jews.  You cannot defraud 
    someone if you tell them the truth about what they are buying
    into.

>THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS BELIEF. Anyone can believe whatever
>they want. Why not? People, religions, cults have all sorts of beliefs.
>In America,
>people have the right to believe anything they want. Will Andrew Milne
>tell us if L. Ron Hubbard said the above? It's perfectly OK with me if he
>did. And if he didn't say it, it is very important to know that too. It's
>important to know what L. Ron Hubbard said or didn't say, isn't it? I'm
>not asking if he believed it, if he thinks others should believe it, or if
>it is true or untrue.
                                            
    Those are Hubbard's words.

>Andrew Milne: Did L. Ron Hubbard say the words above? -Mike
 
    Don't hold your breath for an answer from the Milnebot.
    
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