Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com Subject: THOUGHTS ON MSH STIPU Message-ID: <9512221846.0QDU402@support.com> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 18:46:52 -0800 Lines: 185 smokesig@ix.netcom.com (Neal Hamel) wrote: > I counted 39 people from the Stipulation of Evidence who were >named as being involved directly or indirectly in the Guardian's >Office breaking into federal government offices in the '70s. Those >who admitted guilt and were sentenced were; > >Heldt, Henning (found in Impact issue 53, 1994) >Hermann, Mitchell >Hubbard Mary Sue (L. Ron's wife, found in Impact issue 53, 1994) >Meisner, Michael (turned state's evidence) >Raymond, Cindy >Snider, Duke (found in Impact issue 53, 1994)* >Thomas, Sharon >Weigand, Richard >Willardson, Gregory >Wolfe, Gerald Bennett > >Those who were named as being involved (and the page number they >appear on); > >Aivet, Peeter p.183 >Alesi, Joseph p.99 >Alverzo, Don p.101 >B1 Operative Extraordinaire. Probably not his real name. >Paulette Cooper's Scientology 'boy friend'. > >Andrus, Brian p.231 >Baum, Michael p.146-7 (Baun?) >Douglass, Nancy p.46 >Douglass, Jim p.245 >Fiducia, Jim p.239 Interned under me on Xdn at LA Org. Became a GO operative and was still on at CC in 1986. >Finn, Janet p.183 >Became Janet Andrus > >Greenberg, Martin p.107 GO Accountant. >Kimmel, Richard p.99, 184 >Klopper, Paul p.157 I guess the feds never did catch David Kluge. Still an OSA operative as of 1992. Worked for Executive Softwear, I hear. >Lisa, Joe p.200 >(another) B1 Operative Extraordinnaire. First made a name >for himself within the GO and with Hubbard by infiltrating >the AMA. Did many other operations. Last heard of carrying >out campaigns against the AMA from a base in Baja >California. > > >Maren, Arthur p.51, 170 (found in Clearwater Sun, 4/18/80) > >Matoon, John p.248 >Grounds crew at the Ceders' Complex for years afterwards. > >McNeil, Lynn p.45 >Meisner, Patsy p.273 (Michael's ex-wife) >Left scientology to be with her husband after he turned >state's evidence. > >Moxon, Carla >Moxon, Kendrick p.197, 212-214, 239 (Scientology's attorney) >Scientology Attorney right now > >Mulligan, Jimmy p.108 (found in Impact iss. 33 '90) >CSG-COMM (MSH's communicator). This was the path through >which most of the secret communication from Hubbard came. >Towards the end Mulligan's office was handling large volumes >of traffic from MSH and LRH. The stuff from Hubbard usually >came in sealed packets and was given directly to Heldt. If >MSH knew about LRH orders to the GO, she would log them and >Mulligan would attempt to get compliance. > >Plueger, Paul p.236 >Reese, Chuck p.244 >Rezzonico, Mary p.107 (found in Impact iss. 33 '90 and 52 '94) >Rietze, Tom p.142 (found in Impact iss. 53, '94) >Taylor, Greg p.273 >Tyson, Peggy p.71 >Wilhere, Hugh p.150 >Windment, Randy p.212 >Young, Warren p.206 > >*[NOTE: This is where these names can be found still connected to >Scientology through donation lists or active participation] > >Whew!! This was no small operation!! Here's what Andrew Milne had to >say about this episode; > >*begin quote* > >From: milne@delphi.com >Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology >Subject: FAQ (11) >Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:52:25 -0500 >Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) >Lines: 151 >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1a.delphi.com > >[deletions] > > WHAT IS THE GUARDIAN'S OFFICE AND DOES IT STILL > EXIST? > >[deletions] > > However, while such illegal conduct was afoot, the GO >managed to keep its operations secret from Church management, >staff and membership. [Milne says a gov't prosecutor] testified >that only a handful of people in the GO had engaged in or even >knew about these illegal acts. > >[deletions] > > Those who participated in or knew of the GO's illegal >conduct in any way were removed from Church staff and >forever banned from future Church employment. > >[deletions] > >*end quote* > >I would quote Milne's entire post, but he tacked this on the end; > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >1994 CSI. All Rights Reserved. Scientology and Dianetics are >trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and >are used with its permission. Scientologist is a collective >membership mark designating members of the affiliated churches and >missions of Scientology. Scientology applied religious philosophy. >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- > >which makes Milne's post an "official" church of Scientology >publication, as I read it. > > I think all of Milne's statements above are untrue, and I think >that can be proven. So, Andy, do you still stick by the statements >you made, quoted above? > This was no small operation. This was an operation run by the >founder's wife, arguably the 2nd most powerful person at the time in >Scientology, and other very powerful people within Scientology. This >was no small clique of people, but over 39 people!!! And probably >the only reason we know about it is because one of them, Michael >Meisner, turned away from the church, admitted his guilt, and worked >with the FBI. > > And finally, this is the most sickening part of this whole GO >affair to me. Wiegand sent a note to Mary Sue explaining how their >coverup of the break ins was being conducted. Point 4 is "We >establish lines as possible to see if the govt continues its >investigation of us and if so we hit them with a full scale attack >using BI [intelligence], PR and legal." (p.224). So, they were >caught and trying to cover up their illegal actions. And what were >they planning to do if they were exposed? To do even more of what >they were caught doing!!! Amazing. > Maybe Milne will say that this all happened way back in 1977 and >it doesn't matter anymore. If that's the case, why does the church >keep bringing up Rick Ross' jewelry theft in 1976?? Rick pled >guilty, served his sentence, made restitution, and did community >service to make up for his mistake. What has the church done? > Where is Michael Meisner nowadays? What is Dave Kluge doing these days? Is he really Vera Wallace, aka Venumslut? Inquiring minds ... Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *