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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: SCIENTOLOGY, UN-ARMED
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Ted Mayett <teddy@skylink.net>

Me:
>>        I don't believe it is impossible for you, Ted, to do a Kim
>>Baker.  There are things about your position which still do
>>not make a lot of sense.  Demanding your Espee declare while
>>threatening to sue them for it, comes immediately to mind.
>>
>>        I think you should chill out, Ted.

Newman:
>I second everything that Dennis says above.  While many of us
>find it amusing to read your stories of picketing the Las Vegas Org,
>I'm not convinced that your actions are either prudent or
>effective.  If you got your money back, why taunt them with more
>picketing to get an SP Declare?
                                                       
    You misread me, Ron.  I think the picketting is great 
    and *very* effective.

>It pleases me that I amuse.  But I do need to say that I tire quickly of
>if's.  Has anyone even taken the trouble to see if the ad did indeed run?
              
    I didn't.

>The second time I ran it I gave notice.  I was "amused" that nobody even
>questioned the validity of the ad.  OSA of course would have confirmed
>it.  The ad ran, I am picketing, I got $5,209.00 back.
             
    Do we need to verify these things, Ted?

>Also my mailbox cleared quickly of junk mail when I started this declare
>business.  A benefit I never hoped for.  I do not see questioning of did
>Henry lose his job, was Grady's phone tapped, or whatever it was.  Does
>FACTnet really need more money?  A few other things like that, no
>questioning.  Well, its not easy being a new kid on the block.
                                           
    Who's questioning?  I just don't want you to go over red-line
    on this without having discussed it first.

>Has anyone called the LV Org and asked "is ted out there?"
>If someone would pick up a phone.
>If there were a dial tone.
>If the org would answer.
>I think you get the idea.
                                              
    Why do we need to check up on you, do you think, Ted?

>I saw no newspaper articles of Henry losing his job, no mention of anyone
>dialing the business and confirming the story.  And yet I accept it, I
>believe it.  I am operating slightly because of and under that story.
>But if I had doubts, you better believe I would be on the phone checking
>it out.  At the very least checking what parts I could.
>So, was I ever a scieno?  Was I ever even in CCLV?
>Ifs should not be half-stepped.
                                                         
    So you're covered.  

>And why do I keep taunting them?  
 
    Because they deserve taunting.

>Well you don't ask me that and I won't
>ask you why you maintain such an awsome web page critical of them.
>
>Thanks Cornelius.
>
>And now on to streetspace.  1/3/96
>A lovely sight.  11 vehicles.  two more showed up while I was there, but
>still the opening count was 11.  Two police vehicles, one never even
>looked my way.  I think the police scenario is over. Was over.
>One girl, about 16, asked who Larry was.  Then who Wollersheim was.  Then
>about the money.  I sent her back inside to ask them.  Again today none
>came out for a smoke break.  None of the staff spoke to me at all.  No
>eye contact again.  When I look in the door they avert thier gazes.  I'm
>winning.  The media: I have not alerted the media, I'm waiting for them
>to discover me.  I may not even interview when they do.  I think that no
>comments from me will get more air time from them.  Something like that.
>I'll be glad when I have newspaper articles to post.
>
>This NG has a flavor of truth to it.  I think proof is important.
>I wish someone would spend a dollar and dial the org when I'm out there.
                                  
    Why should we doubt you, Ted?

>It would help me out a bit.  I'd like them to know it's not comfortable
>either side of the door.

    Your picketting does that.

>I can easily prove I got money back from them though.
>What color receipt does somebody want to see?

    If you wanted to create an elaborate hoax, with the help of 
    OSA, you'd have all these details covered.  So what's the
    point of checking?

    I take folks at their word unless there's facts to the contrary.

    Rev. Dennis L Erlich   * * the inFormer * *
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