Path: bogie.dyn.ml.org!xs4all!xs4all!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Pilot, critics ~ Lisa & me Date: 02 Oct 1998 16:55:25 PDT Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Lines: 56 Message-ID: <36186981.34767600@news.concentric.net> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts025d41.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: bogie.dyn.ml.org alt.religion.scientology:121402 My anon friend, now identified as Madwog, sent me: ------------------------------------------ It is interesting, that if not for having experienced some of the worst of scientology, I may never have experienced some of the worst of psychiatry. Although I may never know if I actually had a 'psychotic break' prior to being subjected to the scientology silent treatment, I certainly did break during it. And Lisa McPherson died. In my experience, both scn & psych are experimental in their ways. There are bad people in both, there are good people in both. Both can do more harm than good. Both utilize isolation and/or restraining techniques. Both can and do drug their publics without explanation. These things can *contribute* to psychosis. Both request their publics, in various circumstances, at various times, to sign away various rights. (Who said "what you resist you become"?) In my experience, the 'shrinks', unlike the 'church', at least do supply ample food and do not consistently discourage conversation. Neither psychiatry or scientology are kind to the insane. What happened to Lisa & me was out-tech, was not a fluke, and was insane (more insane than any insane person I've ever met.) Please help me prevent this sort of thing from happening again. Constructive questions/suggestions are welcome. Thankyou... ~madwog~ my (long) story is on http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/irsurviv.htm and has been relayed to the attorney for the McPherson estate. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *