Path: bogie.dyn.ml.org!xs4all!xs4all!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!woodstock.news.demon.net!demon!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Did Someone say NOTS Date: 08 Oct 1998 18:10:44 PDT Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Message-ID: <361e63e8.4707705@news.concentric.net> References: <199810071906.VAA03704@replay.com> <3622d7e2.240906134@193.212.213.145> <36210bfd.35926349@newsact.lightlink.com> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts035d30.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 50 Xref: bogie.dyn.ml.org alt.religion.scientology:123687 Spiritual Research Workgroup : heldal@online.no (Andreas Heldal-Lund [www.xenu.net]) >>One must ask: Would it be possible to believe in this even if it >>was all bullshit? Yes. Believing strongly in something (no matter if true or false) is a form of personal power, in and of itself. >Would there still be witnesses here on ARS claiming >>they've seen and talked to thetans and clusters, even if nothing like >>that ever existed? There are. Ceebee would be an example. >>I say yes. Look around you, check out all the things humans are able >>to truly believe in. I'm not supprised some see BTs and clusters too. The human mind is capable of infinite self-delusion. To wit: ceebee >Listen, Andreas. >You don't have to get into this mockery. Translation: you joker/degrader, espee, deebee, 1.1, 2.5%er, Andreas. >Have you >read my earlier replies to your questions at all? What word did you misunderstand in Ceebee's earlier replies, Andreas? >I have seen the most incredible changes happen in session with >this tech. Incredible is the right word. I have heard similar results occur on the grapes-only diet, and I have seen spell-casting work even better. And no, I'm not specifically referring to Heidi. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *