Path: rambo.bobo.net!xs4all!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Thetan Hand or Slap the dog shit out of ARS Date: 07 Nov 1998 12:49:03 PST Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Lines: 25 Message-ID: <36449518.4286739@news.concentric.net> References: <36587138.44857569@news.tiac.net> <71vrt9$quh@netaxs.com> <364f82fe.81271111@news.mindspring.com> <721qlb$6t7@netaxs.com> <721u7e$1em$1@nnrp03.primenet.com> <721vce$7sj@netaxs.com> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts040d20.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: rambo.bobo.net alt.religion.scientology:140971 rkeller@netaxs.com (Rod Keller): >The fact remains that the Fishman OT8 is essentially an authentic >document. No, Rod. It is essentially a bogus (questionable at best) document. Find us someone who did OT8 who had that bulletin on the course checksheet. The OT8's say it's bogus. (Adrian Jackson, Michael Pattinson.) Far as I can tell Jesse has never seen the document used on course, on a checksheet or amongst tek staff. >It's what Jesse told me, it's what Jesse told Bob, it's what >Jesse told Lawrence. Jesse was led to that conclusion by Larry, not questioned objectively. He has not said it was ever used other than as a OSA trojan horse doc. >Mithoff got it from Hubbard, as the first OT8. I don't see the evidence of that, nor will I believe it until I do. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *